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Cristina Fernandez and Obama will hold bilateral meeting in Colombia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez leaves on Friday for Colombia to attend the two-day sixth Summit of the Americas where she is scheduled to hold a meeting with President Barack Obama on request from the White House, according to the Executive press office in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNow KFC has access to the most anti-British US President for more than 200 years, she should really give it her best shot over “the Malvinas question”. She should be able to tease a few more weasel words from Obama, for all the good it'll do her.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like CFK is being called to the headmaster office for a bit of a telling off.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I expect that will be the tone of the conversation after the strong moves against Argentina by the USA recently.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0However, expect CFK to come out stating the meeting was a success and she had raised the issue with Obama of the Falkland's or some other such nonsense.
Think cfk is off for a naughty girl spanking.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given that the US presidential elections are this year and the fact Obama is unlikely to be in office for another term, then what obama says of does will be irrelevant as by the time hes said it - minutes later (political time frame sense) hes out the door and in comes his replacement who gauranteed to be much more supportive of the UK and wanting to undo the damage done to USA UK relations by Obama!
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0to be fair, unless she gets him to turn against britain, and make him fall inline with argentine demands,
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0and being a member of the OAS, if she can bully him into sending his military to the falklands to protect argentina, and fight the british,
then the point is what,
he may not like the british, and we all know this,,,but the USA will never ever take argentine sides against the british, and the world knows this, CFK is dreaming and flogging a dead cat,
the only thing they will almost certainly talk about, is argentine retoric, that is worrying others, and her debt to the states,
so the meeting will stat with a hand shake, and finnish with a growle
and thats it, next .
He's just going to tell her to get her house in order, as some kind of final warning of the impending storm between the US and Chavist Bloc countries. She'll give her usual gambits about the falklands and what and it'll mainly be ignored, then she'll claim it was a success because USA didn't change its status-quo stance.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Predictable news is predictable.
Think cfk is off for a naughty girl spanking.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0He's just going to tell her to get her house in order, as some kind of final warning of the impending storm between the US and Chavist Bloc countries. She'll give her usual gambits about the falklands and what and it'll mainly be
Sure keep bragging losers.
uk is finished,and NOOO body gives a damn about it!!
Barrack has invited her for a tete a tete so that he can spank her naughty bottom.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0This she will sell to the world as “bondage with Obama” highlighting how united the American states are.
@8
Apr 13th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who's bragging?
“uk is finished,and NOOO body gives a damn about it!!”
UK is far from finished, unlike Argieland. CFK has rattled the cages of some influential & powerful countries, it is payback time starting with a brief warning.
Enjoy your next ten years in the gutter your going down big time.
Talking to people working in politics in Washington DC, I can confirm this. The idea that Obama is anti-British is a nonsense. He is well aware that the UK is the US's closest and most important ally and that is not going to change anytime soon. This is mature politics, not the silly hot-headed, emotion-driven, policy-of-the-day, “Oh, my God, what mood is she in now?!?”, politics of CFKC's government.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect CFKC will be offered another chance to right some wrongs. That's all.
@4 Shuddering at the image of Obama giving KFC a spanking :-s
Apr 13th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0For YEARS the Ks have been begging for a 1 on 1 with US Prez. It took them destroying their economy and making US State and Chamber furious. Well now they have it. I think this is a final warning before they start to get booted from Int'l orgs, G20 in particular.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How does a President of a country hold their head high when they are 8 years past due to another set of countries ( Paris Club)? Do you think she is embarrassed? She is probably too narcissistic to know shame!
12 Alexei
Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could be worse you know..... it could be KFC giving Obama a spanking...... Quick!! pass me the mind bleach!!!
@8 The question is; will CFK get a ride in Air Force One? And, if she does, will she get to skydive to the Atlantic? Shall we imagine her last words? “MALvinaaaaaas!” Glug!
Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Obama will say: ' Stop putting out propaganda about the Falklands and sort out Argentina as it's fast becoming a joke.'
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 - If the US let her ride in Air Force One, she'll no doubt start making territorial claims on it. 'Airforce Uno belongs to the country of Argentina, there is no doubt about it...' LOL
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone else think that the picture of CKF and Obama looks strange? Normally when heads of state meet they're all smiles. Americans especially like the big toothy grin look. Obama looks like he's swallowed a bee. Probably frightened of being so close to the screeching harpy...
You can imagine the meeting can't you?
Obama: 'You owe the US lots of money, pay it back.'
CFK: 'MALVINA'S, MALVINA'S, we were robbed by the evil Imperialistic British Empire due to their tricky of knowing history and international law, and being able to fight better than we can. Tell them to give the MALVINA'S to me.'
Obama: 'You owe the US lots of wonga, stop trying to obscure the issue by this load of old waffle.'
CFK: 'MALVINA'S, MALVINA'S, poor Argentina is the victim in all this.'
Obama: 'Personally I don't give a sh!t, where's my money?'
CFK: @MALVINA'S, MALVINA'S...'
Obama: 'Piss of CFK, you whining b!@%$h, pay back the money you owe, I'm with the British on this one so shut the f@ck up about the Falklands.'
CFK at a press conference later. 'Prez Obama loves me and Argentina and is fully behind our erronous claims to the Malvina's.'
Long Live Valery Simon
Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long Live Republic
Long Live Free Quebec.!
long overdue final ultimatum is long overdue.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am surprised, given that Clinton is going to the swamp shortly, that it isn't threesome.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I just realised what I have said, cringe, cringe.
20 ChrisR
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh dear, oh dear, oh dear............. I would NOT like to be the meat in that sandwich...........
Pass the mind bleach!!!!!
All you need then is for Chavez to show up with the babyoil and cigars going “Ehhh let's make this a party!” lol. *Voms a little*
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 & @21 - shame on you both for your double entendre's! Off to bed without supper for you both for making me visualise what you have said. I could be scarred for life! LOL
Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This summit will be interesting. I expect nothing but weak statements from Obama (as usual), but I hope when, in the middle of another topic no doubt, KFC brings up the Falklands, Canada kindly tells her to fuck off. Venezuela, Brazil etc are now attacking Canada and the US for not letting Cuba come. We now know 100% which side of the communist fence they are on.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I was president, I would try to get out of there as quickly as possible. Just being in the company of these guys would make me cringe. Stay close to Canada while mingling, shake hands with Antigua&Barbuda and Grenada for calling out ALBA on their false statement, tell Mexico and Colombia to clean up their acts, possibly give Chavez a punch in the gut on the way out, turn and wave, then a strong drink on Air Force One. Mission complete :)
@ 22
Apr 13th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your “” Ehhh “” was used by Norwegian Skarlet !
where is he ?.....of course if not changed his name !
he could be bored to eat Pizza everytime......
CFK 'I will pleasure you to within an inch of your life if you just support us on the Las Malvinas claim'
Apr 13th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama - 'Michelle (shouts)! 'CFK has just said she wants to pleasure me to within an inch of my life' ....and throw our children out of a plane (embellishes a little)
Michelle - Im going to $@%# you up you desperate %*&$#
@ 4 Ken Ridge (#)
Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need the spanking for expressing your nonsense comments. The argentine leader is doing her job like it or not.
I frankly did not even know that this summit was going on. I just checked the local papers and only one of five has even a story on the summit, and it's buried towards the bottom of the home page.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0No one cares about that in Argentina.
@ 27
Apr 14th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The jobless can not perceive this kinds of jobs.
@27
Apr 14th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You need the spanking for expressing your nonsense comments. The argentine leader is doing her job like it or not.”
Lacking a sense of humour are we Sussie?
Your leader is doing a good job of destroying your country, she has allready done a fine job of making Arg the laughing stock of the world, if you're happy with that then sit back and enjoy.
Agreed Ken, all she's achieved for her country so far is total and complete economic failure and to become the joke of SA.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 - SussieUS - CFK's job is to run the country and to stop Argentina's economy going down the toilet. All she seems to be doing is increasing the rate that this economic breakdown is happening.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Her job is to sort out Argentina's problems, not line her own pocket, and this constant harping on about the Falklands was used by the military junta as a distraction to, and look were they ended up.
Very soon, CFK will twinkle-toe her way out of Argentina, laughing all the way to her Swiss bank account, as HER people starve.
I wonder how wonderful she'll be to you then?
@30
Apr 14th, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are assuming Argentines feel it is important what you think of us, or the rest of the world. We don't (of course, we rather be seen in a positive light, but if not, who cares).
silly bitch will do her job: wear tonnes of make up to hide her ugly face, spout a load of nonesense as usual while she strokes her dyed hair in front of the cameras and go on a shopping sprees as soon as she gets some time off. Old same story, I am so bored with the same shit. Is any argie allowed to settle down in the Falklands? I am first on the list!!! Have a great weekend everyone.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 - tobias.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps that's Argentina's problem. You don't care what the rest of the world think of you, so this free's you up to break agreements, treaties, borrow monies that you don't intend paying back etc...
But the actions of your government, and by proxy the people, will isolate you from the world who will see you as a pariah. Argentina is teetering on the precipice of doom, brought there by their own mismanagement and arrogance, and when you fall into the abyss who will you look to for help?
Yes the very people who you have successfully been p!ssing off. You may find the cost of that help will be steeper than you think.
@35
Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We already fell into the abyss in 2001. No one helped us. And even the most rabid anti-argentine papers and analysts recognize and admit that. Argentina “got up from the bloody floor all on her own”. And there will not be a repeat of 2001 because Argentina is not at the mercy of foreign creditors, nor straitjacketed by a fixed currency board, nor are commodity prices at historic lows like in 2001 (the year before the bull market on commodities and gold began).
So perhaps that is why now there is such dislike in Argentina for the rest of the world. And arrogance... we got back up without any bailouts, any assistance, or any Marshall plan.
@36
Apr 14th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“we got back up without any bailouts, any assistance, or any Marshall plan.”
I doubt that indeed, you defaulted on billions of dollars of debt, you recieve millions a year in aid from UK alone, that doesn't include other countries.
More Argentine arrogance.
millions??? HAHAHAHAHA. Even if that is true, that is but a penny in terms of money when talking the size of countries. No we do not consider that assistance when assistance is measured on 60-70 BILLION like all the countries in Asia, and Latin America have gotten at some point to be bailed out in the last 20 years. And the assistance Europe and Japan got after the war? Over 120 billion in today's US dollars.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are the arrogant prick. 30 million a year compared to hundres of billions in the Marshall Plan, or the bailouts of the Asian Financial Crisis, or of the Tequila crisis, or the crisis in Russia, Brazil, and now Greece?
We got no help from you (that is the way it should be btw). We did it all on our own. Now fk-off.
@7 Agree with you 100%
Apr 14th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 Stop harping on, you defaulted. Pay back the money you owe! like every other decent country does.
That money was not charity, it was people making a bet, which investment is basically. They lost the bet. And we were not bailed out by the IMF nor anyone else so we don't have to pay a dime back. :)
Apr 14th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 02.3 billion pound bailout of the UK in 1976 (I learned this last week and think it is histerical since the Brits say they never needed their debt to be supported).
2.3 billion pounds of 1976 today equals = 19 billion pounds.
19 billion pounds is like 30 billion dollars right? That's a nice bailout to save your country back then. And all major countries in Latin America EXCEPT Argentina got bailed out since 1991. As were all major countriesw in Asia including South Korea in the Asian financial crisis. As was Russia, then Turkey and now some countries in Europe including Ireland and Greece.
We recovered all on our own, the only people strong enough to do so. I know you can't stand that and will never give the Argentine people any credit, but is the truth.
Now see ya later. You not getting money backkk.
The second world war bankrupted this country. That was the price we paid for fighting nazism, instead of like some, who embraced it. Billions of dollars was borrowed from the US to finance the war. It took nearly 40 but every single cent including the interest was paid back. The UK did go cap in hand to the IMF and every single cent of that was also paid back. Thats the difference between us and them. We honour our debts.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina already went bankrupt fighting a good cause. We went bankrupt in 1830 after twenty years of fighting wars in our own land, then in Chile, then in Peru and Bolivia, then sending vessels to fight the Spanish in North America, sending treasury to Central America for their independence, then going to war with Brazil to end their occupation of Uruguay. So you have done nothing we have not done in that sense.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WWII was not our war. This is the 10th time I'll ask here, why should Argentina have entered it? No one attacked us, no one threatened us. Why woud we fight either for you or for your enemy... :)
You totally missed the point. I used world awr 2 as an anology to show we paid back the cost. Just as you used the Marshall plan.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But you did get aid, both in the Marshall and by the IMF. Italy, Germany, and France got major help from the Marshall plan. Then Spain, Ireland, Portugal got major help from the EU in turn.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You still have not answered: Why would we have entered the war. You made the charge we embraced the nazis. We did nothing more than not be enemies with them, just as we were not enemies with you. And the nazis that sought refuge here are no different from the nazis that were actually formally invited by the USA in order to further their science projects.
One name, Peron. Are you seriously comparing Werner Von Braun, with, Joseph Mengele and Adolph Hiechmann?
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently the Falklands was mentioned at the summit,
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As well as one leader demanding the USA fully backs Argentina over the Falklands, and demands he gets of the fence,
[The news item was not much]
So apparently, what will Obama do, will he pull the USA out of the OAS, will he jump ship and defend this OAS to the limit, or will he just ignore all of them,
We will just have to wait for the results [later]
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Obama will maintain a neutral stance. It will be interesting though to see how he refers to the islands by name. Will it be Falklands or will it be Malvinas?
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina recieved a lot of help to recover from the default, not least from Venezuela that bought enough Argentine bonds for them to pay off the IMF.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They absolutely did not do it alone and the whole world was not against them, though I am sure that the government tells you that. All part of the Peronist /fascist model 'Us against the world'.
Tobias
Apr 14th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right, the UK borrowed £4.6 under the Marshall plan. However I am also right, it was paid back. As for embracing Nazism, that was Argentinas stance under Peron, who was known to admire Adolf Hitler and national socialism. Why do you think so many war criminals settled there in the perfect knowledge thet they were safe from International Justice.
@ 30 31 32
Apr 14th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ruining the country? How?
Bush and Obama ruined the US with a 15 trillon dollars deficit, the largest debt in history! 24 millons unemployed, 44 millons on “food stamps” and 26 millons US citizens living below poverty levels. These are facts. So stop picking on her!
@48
Apr 14th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Venezuela loaned money, not aid. Argentina was vouchsafed monetary assistance of any kind, except for a few million in medical supplies (that I can recall). That's all. Its not even a fraction of the aid virtually all the countries of Latin America or Europe have received at some point in time in RECENT contemporary history. For sakes, give Argentina credit in something, have you noticed how you make it a point to foist criticism against Argentina in every solitary post you indite?? (from music tastes at clubs, to argie tourist spending habits, to the aesthetic of schools, to the “menacing” air of places you supposedly visited) Will I ever read one comment of yours that does not contain one off-the-mark, random derision? You need to examine your behavior, because to others that pattern denones a bit of personal resentment.
@45
Oh, so now we resort to relativism. So because Von Braun wasn't so bad compared to Eichmann, that makes it all ok. Well, guess what, Von Braun was employed by the US gov, the man that sent those V-2 hurling into your nation's territory, which according to wiki killed over 2,000 British civilians.
To be officially recognized by a government makes it far worse than the Eichmann situation, since the Argentine government never officially utilized his “talents” like the shameless Americans did. But heck, you and them are allies, so I guess the thousands of Brits killed for the technology that conquered the moon is all good...
Sorry that should be £4.6 billion at 1951 values.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Forget the Obama-Kirchner summit, forget the rest of the presidents and prime ministers. The real action in this summit was at the US presidential service hotel. All sorts of “bi”lateral cooperation there according to news reports! Maybe even trilateral, and quadrilateral... and heck even the Pentagon for good measure.
Apr 14th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Apr 14th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Latest US unemployment figures show the rate at 8.7% or 13.432.00. Not 24.000.00.
@51. What's relativism got to do with it. Tobias states that your Nazis and the American nazis were no different. I simply make the point that yours are worse than theirs.
As for Von Braun being responsible for 2,000 British civilian casualties, cheap shot.
Von Braun was a scientist. Both sides, as you would expect, used scientists to develop weapons.
Allied weapons dropped on Germany and Japan killed an estimated 1.1 million civilians.
German weapons dropped on Britian killed 60.595 civilians.
The difference between Von Braun and allied scientists was that he was a Nazi and he knew of and went along with their methods, in the name of so called science. He knew that the V1 and V2's were manufactured at Norhausen by conerntartion camp victims and he knew of their fate.
As for the technology that conquered the moon. They didn't grab him for the moon! America grabbed Von Braun to develop their weapon technology before the Russians could. It was a tragic consequence of a truly terrible war. As for the moon, that came about when Kennedy decided it was in Americas interest to beat the Russians in the space race.
Yes, the Americans are our allies, when it suits the national interest and don't think we are nieve enough not to know it.
Nice comments here Sussie, like your fighting spirit =) I think people should note that Sussie's been in both Argentina and the US so her comparison of Cristina with Bush/Obama comes from experience...
Apr 15th, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34 Some people are really freaked out by my Queen's glamour, beauty and style, aren't they?! But what she shows is that its possible to be both fabulously chic AND a great political leader =)
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