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Argentine imports’ policy again accused of protectionism at a WTO committee

Saturday, April 28th 2012 - 06:05 UTC
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Argentina was accused once more of “protectionism” at the meeting of the Imports License Committee of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in what can lead to a trade dispute with forty countries. Read full article

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  • Chicureo

    There are rumors that the black widow is not only exploiting sympathy, she's trying to bring Nestor back from the dead....

    Argentina's 'plans for farewell intercourse law so widows can have sex with DEAD husbands' branded a 'complete nonsense'
    By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
    PUBLISHED: 16:28 GMT, 27 April 2012

    Alleged proposals to allow Argentine widows to legally have sex with their dead wives for up to six months after their death have been branded a 'complete nonsense'.
    The controversial new 'farewell intercourse' law was claimed, in Argentine media, to be part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Peronist-dominated parliament.
    Controversial: The 'farewell intercourse' law is 'a complete nonsense', according to sources

    But sources inside the Argentinian Embassy in London have said the claims were 'completely false', and 'could never imagine it happening'.
    The source said the proposal, if it even existed, had not reached the congress- although it was also admitted it could be the work of an extremist politician.
    Although not officially rebutted, the claims that someone inside Argentina could introduce such a law provoked widespread skepticism.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @1 I think it was egypt that planned this law.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #1 Your sick

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @Chicureo
    Are you for real? Do you print your own newspapers? Or are you just a news-generating server in a Malvinas bunker?
    I've read some of your posts, and I got to admit, the only talent you possess is to be able to write a whole lot of nothing...
    As Churchull would have said;
    Never before have so few had so little to say in so many lines...

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Chicureo is playing.

    This is a very real law being considered in Egypt, apparently.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ken Ridge

    3 British_Kirchnerist
    4 Guzz

    Lacking a sense of humour chaps/chapesses?

    “ EU, Australia, Turkey, Norway, Thailand, US, New Zealand, Costa Rica, Colombia, Peru, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and Canada.”

    Now that's a lot of countries to be upseting, good luck on your way to self destruction Argies.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @6 Argentinas import restrictions are general, you'll find out that they will negotiate with the coutries of your list that they choose themselves in order to normalise trade, just as they did with Uruguay... For the rest of the unlucky ones, lets see what they do other than fart loud... Good luck catching up with Spain and Greece...

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Brasil gave Argentina a bloody nose when she consistently blocked imports of Brasilian goods into Argentina using this 'law'.
    This still simmers ready to boil over again at any time, and represents the greatest bi-national import-export issue for Argentina.

    There will be other bloody noses coming Argentina's way, as she continues to run, rough-shod and arrogant, over many nations.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @8 Argentina has normalised trade with countries of her choosing, including Brazil.

    In all your arrongance, you try to tell our nations whom we should trade with, that might have worked when we had your puppets in charge, but not any more. Use your own resources! :)

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9 Trouble that you're not allowed to “discriminate”. And therein lies your crime. Is it that you don't read the agreements and treaties you sign? Or that you don't understand them? Or just that you get your copy back “home” and insert “Does not apply to Argentina” at an appropriate place?

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    @9 Guzz, odd post. Argentina voluntary signed into these trade bodies and agreed the terms and then reneged on the terms and broke the contract.

    If Argentina wishes to leave/get expelled (lets face it, its one of the two) then that is fine, it can have fun in isolation.

    Oh and the Western world is still in charge.....

    @8 - Geoff - Argentina has just lost in excess of 1bn in trade from Spain and this surely is just the start giving how much hatred is currently being directed towards Argentina from the USA to Japan!

    The UK at this point just needs to sit on the sidelines and watch Argentina implode under its own ridiculous behaviour......

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Timeline
    1976-1983: CIA backed Arg dictatorship, military takes control of YPF and runs up a debt of 6 billion USD.

    1992 YPF is generating an annual loss of 200M USD

    1993 Arg is forced to privatize YPF as there is no money to uphold the company, dictatorship has sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts.

    1998 Repsol buys most of YPF at a price that equals 9 months of production

    Lets see what happened here:
    USA finances and upholds military dictatorships all over America, together with Europe they “borrow” money to the puppets in charge (which they put there themselves) in exchange for lucrative contracts, this puppets puts the money in their own pockets, leaving the country in huge debts. They return power to the people, leaving them no choice but to privatize every national company, in order to get the country back on track. Finally these privatized companies are sold to foreign companies... Nice move, we almost bought it :)

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I think you've been watching far too many episodes of X-Files Guzz....

    As for trying to find justification in your governments actions there is none.

    If you wanted to do this in a ethical and morale way you'd of done one of these two things and not stolen a foreign company.

    1. Revoked oil licenses and employed your own company or bought in another company. OR

    2. You'd of made an offer for YPF as opposed to driving the company's value through the floor by threatening to nationalize it

    There is no justification for your governments actions.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @13 You are right, we should ask you what to do with our own resources... Think what you want, but do so on your way home, empty-handed.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Ah yes the typical rebuff to logic, an illogically child like answer.

    Enjoy international isolation....

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    15. Yes for some reason he likes to add various numbers together or point out irrelevant facts to come to an erroneous conclusion that makes sense only in his feeble mind. I have never really understood RG math, economics or logic.

    So with 1/3 of the world filing complaints it's gonna get more and more difficult to sell their SOY at market prices. Look at Iran, they apparently have 57 oil tankers waiting for buyers. I think China offered $20/barrel paid in YUAN but they didn't want to sell it for that. Doesn't CFK see the road ahead?

    Did CFK ever find someone to take the Soy oil for LNG? Nope? brr

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Xect

    Can you stop crying please you are getting boring. Argentina has nationalised the shares of Repsol and there is nothing the Spanish o EU can do just cry. This is the result of bad management from the Spanish raptors.

    @haters

    “A Spanish report from “Royal Elcano Institute” advises to Spanish govt. to don’t start a legal dispute with Argentina over YPF.”

    “They consider that a legal dispute will be very negative for Spain relations in political and economic terms”.

    “From the point of view of the international law, in general doesn’t seem favourable to Repsol and not even for the Spanish govt.”

    “They fear over Argentina reaction that can nationalises more Spanish companies.”

    “Also criticises the Spanish reaction over the announcement made by Argentina’s media over the possible nationalisation of YPF as clumsy, confused and with not appropriate use of language.”

    http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/04/28/economia/1335608782.html

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    17. This assessment may be a bit off if it is ruled the BCRA assets are really Argentina gov't assets and can be seized...

    We shall know shortly

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Just another headline that shows that CFK and her politburo are out of their depth at running such a large entity such as a country like Argentina. I think that they would struggle running a corner shop - they'd upset all of their customers.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Yanqui!
    Some people tell lies, others bend the truth
    You? You compulsively avoid the truth, as if you were allergic to its very presence... You can't back anything that comes out of you, and the worst is that your fantasy is so limited, you think we, discussing on a thread, have no access to internet to check your facts. NOTHING you say is true. NOTHING

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    “They consider that a legal dispute will be very negative for Spain relations in political and economic terms

    [more threats from the great CFK]
    and the best alternative to internal troubles is what.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Reuters Moscow: Saturday April 28, 2012

    In an earth shattering announcement, the Venezuelan government has leaked news today about a new defense agreement involving Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia and Argentina.

    As a part of his “Bolivarian Revolution”, Venezuelan president Hugo Chávez has been closely involved in negotiations to modernize not only his country, but also the armed forces of both Argentina and Bolivia with a remarkable revolutionary concept that has left his admirers in a elevated state of approval.

    Assisting Presidents Chávez and Morales is the special defense minister, Maximo Kirchner who is assisting in one of the most complex, costly and sophisticated arms for petroleum trade barter agreements in history.

    To summarize the deal is as follows: Venezuela will acquire 92 T-72 Main battle tanks from the Russian Federation. The 84 French AMX-30 Main battle tanks and a few assorted other models will be transferred to Argentina. In turn, the antiquated 54 austrian tanks now used by Bolivia will be transferred to Venezuela for target practice. The 236 domestically designed and manufactured “Tanque Argentino Mediano” will be sent to arm the Bolivian forces.

    Payment of the transfers will be extraordinary as Venezuela’s purchase will be a part of the Argentine promised repayment of the near 100 billion loan bailout agreement between the two nations, that will be accomplished with barter grain and refined petroleum shipments to St. Petersburg over the coming harvests. Bolivia will repay Argentina with natural gas shipments in exchange for the upgrade in armament. As the special defense minister, Kirchner was quoted: “we all get something from the deal, some more than others…”

    In other related news, the government of Paraguay is planning to take this alarming news to the UN Security Counsel as they are worried about the escalation of a military build up in the region. There were no other comments.

    Apr 28th, 2012 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    There is says something about Missiles Acquired from China & Russia in exchange for soy?

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    No, but there was some discussion of Argentinean assembled Fiats badged with the Lada brand for export to Russia.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Chicureo

    Ah! thank you.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Re. Chicureo (#22) Reuters Moscow: Saturday April 28, 2012
    ... taking his posting at 'face value':

    ...... so, AR gets 84 French AMX-30s 'and a few assorted other models' (from RU?), and pays for them by the part-repayment to VE of a previous loan to AR from VE! (to RU?). RU gets grain and petrol from AR, etc.

    And AR 'sells' 263 medium tanks to BO, and gets LNG in return.

    Can somebody explain to me how the first bit works ??? .....

    I can see that the VE loan is being used by AR to buy main battle tanks, .... but how can it buy them out of the *re-payment* monies?

    And Dany's ambiguous rider at #23 - trading soy for missiles - sounds quite likely ...... but true? ........... who gets the missiles? AR? BO? VE? All three ?

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #25 Sadly, I'm a former Lada owner.
    #26 Please don't take my posts too seriously. The complicated part would be the money laundering by Maximo to achieve his cut. All the rest is about as realistic as CFK's plans for her country: Pure Nonsense...

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    27. Chavez will be dead before any sort of military build up occurs and I am sure the next Prez will align with the USA not with Bolivia/Cuba/Arg.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    :-)

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    20 Guzz

    .eerrr pot, kettle, black!!!

    27 Chicureo

    Blees you for coming out on this website!! But that's ok, we won't hold your choice of car against you...........much.... chuckle, chuckle.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    During the Allende years we had rationed Soviet inedible food supplies like frozen fish. (Our fishing industry had collapsed under centralized planning.) A decade after the overthrow, I bought an inexpensive Lada. There is no greater proof of my youthful stupidity.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Some art group painted a whole bunch of LADA cars in wild colors and did crazy things to them like used them as planters etc. They had them all parked on both sides of 1 block where I live. It was really funny. I can't imagine where they got them I don't think the brand was ever sold in the USA but maybe the Russian embassy donated them for the project.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #32

    I bought a used 1973 Ford Mustang from a diplomat in the mid 1980's. The best car I've ever owned. It was stolen and I believe went to Bolivia. I had it 5 glorious years. I now drive Subarus and am very satisfied.

    By the way, only idiots condemn Pinochet. He made some terrible errors, but he also saved our country from Communism. The human rights atrocities I feel were very wrong, but we were in a civil war here.

    Have a great day!

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    Why argue about this, just impose the same non-automatic import licence system on all Argentine goods in every other country around the World. If the WTO is happy with Argentina's system, then lets ensure we use exactly the same system against them, and keep the automatic import licence systems in place for everyone else we trade with.

    Fair's fair isn't it? If Argentina thinks the system is working, let them operate within it for all their trade, and lets see how long they love it.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    How about a caption competition for the photo above?

    Moreno: “I know I have a revolver on the desk, but I am just practicing with my finger”.

    Apr 29th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    REGARDING “GUZZ”

    Yankeeboy: I followed your advice and did an analysis at www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi/questionnaire/ of the past 35 recent posts of the character who calls himself “Buzz.

    No surprises: The conclusion is he’s a single male, most likely between 18 and 25 years of age, underemployed, most likely still living with is mother, perhaps attended one or two years of trade school before dropping out. An extremely self-centered narcissist, who craves attention and acknowledgement from others. He has trouble empathizing with superiors or understanding their positions. He’s apparently extremely sensitive to rejection - implied, perceived or real from others and may react with displays of aggression, threats or temper tantrums when denied. He claims being a “marine engineer” that commutes between Denmark and Uruguay, but the conclusion is its nothing more than another manifestation of his delusions of grandeur.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #33 “By the way, only idiots condemn Pinochet. He made some terrible errors”

    Is that a roundabout way of admitting you're an idiot?!

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    12 Guzz : QUOTE : “1993 Arg is forced to privatize YPF as there is no money to uphold the company, dictatorship has sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    Same old record keeps playing over....
    1955 : “Peron sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    1976 : “Isabel Peron sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    1983 : “ dictatorship sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    1989 : “Alfonsin sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    1999 : “ Menem sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    2015 : “ CFK has sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    2020 : “ Maxi Moo Kirchner has sacked the country and left nothing but enormous debts ”.
    I can not only see the past , I can also see the future

    May 01st, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Achtung!

    Europe power pyramid, http://skp00.epimg.net/Imagenes/07/9E/1335815446-cf68f436b6a4519375a2a97ac5725d93.jpg

    Now continue please.

    May 01st, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #39

    :-)

    May 01st, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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