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Argentine Air Force never recovered its Malvinas war operational capacity

Monday, April 30th 2012 - 07:42 UTC
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Top Argentine Air Force officers admitted that since the Malvinas war the force never recovered its operational capacity, but in spite of the shortcomings and budget cuts the new generations of military pilots are completing their training and flying hours ‘normally’ even when the press reported to the contrary. Read full article

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  • Martin Woodhead

    Maybe this will finally lay to rest the oh noes the argies are threatining to invade they cant. end of.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Seems a bit dangerous having you Air Force school and Aircraft factory in Cordoba, what would happen if the Spanish decide to Nationalise them?

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    The air force were the only Argentine military force to come out of the conflict with their credibility intact. They were the only units that stepped up to the plate and were considered brave and honourable by their British counterparts.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    1. And if the Britain removed its military presence, how long could 3000 islanders hold off Argentine forces? Perhaps half and hour!
    The army forces have been downgraded to prevent military coups not falklands invasion. And with Venezuela and Brazil waving the Argentine flag, they could send in a couple of cohorts on Argentina's behalf.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @4 I just watched Avatar and I think the Falklanders could hold off the Argentinians forever, especially if after the argentinians burn down the tree they then tame the dragon-bird and the island-mother saves a few of the nicer argies who can help out.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Interesting to see Argentine Air Force website, with its current headline display “30 Bautismo de Fuego 1 de Mayo” - and the menu selection “Conflicto de Malvinas”: http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/
    Looks like website FAA reflects some realization that their Falklands efforts (as well as some “Misiones de Paz” (Peace Missions) will be their only contribution to history...

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RedBaron

    Quite funny to hear their Brigadier saying that they are training pilots but that there are no planes available for them to fly once they have finished their training.
    No wonder they all up and leave to the private sector.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    Never say never, be they weaker, they still have some capability even with a few aircraft operationally capable they can do a lot of damage. Remember, it was the Argie air attacks that nearly lost us the war, they were superb airmen, very brave and very able oponents. They might be totally destroyed if they tried again, but, being lulled into a false sense of security would be a big mistake.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #5 Good lefty anti-war, anti-imperialist film; what did you think of it? =)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    8 BritishLion

    I agree totally about the airmen of 1982 BUT (and there's always a but after 30 years) technology has moved on considerably from then. A single Typhoon can down ALL the remaining time-expired airframe Mirages 3 & 5s that they have and that is without even seeing them.

    Why do you imagine the Argies head back home as soon as they light up the radar on the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) on their monthly 'test'?

    AND that is without the Type 45 even coming into play.

    I am only lulled by a sense of reality.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BritishLion

    10 ChrisR (#)

    You are right of course and I like your comment 'I am only lulled by a sense of reality', very good. I have every confidence in our current defence capability on the Falkland Islands and understand that their is no match for the Typhoon in the Argie aircraft stock. I simply wish to point out that withstanding this, if madness prevailed and an attack was launched and one fighter got through, it would be a blow no matter how badly the attack failed.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Oh my, oh my, oh my... Had God only equipped you with bigger “packages”, the world would've been a peaceful place...

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    It's truly sad and also comforting. In Chile, we were with most of our obsolete jets inoperable due to lack of parts. Today, Chile's F-16s can deter any Argentine threat and the once proud Argentine air force is where we were 1n 1984. Their pilots during the Falklands War however were incredibly brave and innovative.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Keep stroking eachothers.... equipments, we NEED no army, we drop a moral bomb at you and film you with our brand new chinese mobile phones as soon as you are about to commit an atrocity :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    12 Guzz (
    Oh my, oh my, oh my... Had God only equipped you with bigger “packages”, the world would've been a peaceful place

    [lingford Christy had a big package, and never had a nights peace]]
    Or so the papers would have us believe .lol.

    As for the argentine air force,
    To be fair, some have been soon hanging around the Spanish air force bases in Spain and north Africa,
    A few have been seen hanging around Hugo’s air force base,
    Perhaps they are hoping to either catch one falling of the back of a lorry, or picking up a few cheaply,

    But we suspect that what ever they fly, they will do a lot better than their invisible navy boys

    Justa joka .

    .

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @15 The british man with biggest “package” in history was Margaret Thatcher :)
    Only reason she lived so long was because neither god or the devil wanted her...

    I am SO happy our armies are small and useless, that way your governments don't have a reason to pay their bills :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    confused again gus
    1, margaret is a lady not a man.
    and she is still alive and kicking.

    we did not mention your armies,
    just the brave pilots .
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    but why would my goverment pay your armies bills,

    you should be proud of your forces, silly or not .

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @17 That thing is NO lady, trust me on that one :)

    Your governments have a tendency to pay our armies salaries, hence their bills...

    Proud of our forces? HAHAHAHAHA

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    18 - Your right they were pretty poor (apart from airforce)
    The UK bankrolled the military Junta, the poor RG's didnt support them at all. I didnt see thousands celebrating the invasion, and the thousands crying and rioting after they lost the war. It must all be somebody elses fault, it always is, never the brave honest debt paying non bullying colonial Rg's

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @19 “CLO-HO”
    Some 10 thousand pro-junta weirdo's celebrated Galtianis attempt to be like the brits, 42 million didn't... A game between Belgrano and FC Patagonia attracts more spectators. Amazing, don't you “THINK” :) :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    To all: The mentally challenged #20 claims to be Uruguayan, but the conclusion is he’s a single male, of mixed-nationality, most likely between 18 and 25 years of age, underemployed, most likely still living with his mother in Europe. Exhibits a non-completed mediocre education with English as his primary language. An extremely self-centered narcissist, who craves attention and acknowledgement from others. He has trouble empathizing with superiors or understanding their positions. He’s apparently extremely sensitive to rejection - implied, perceived or real from others and may react with displays of aggression, threats or temper tantrums when denied. He claims being a “marine engineer” that commutes between Denmark and Uruguay, but the conclusion is its nothing more than another manifestation of his delusions of grandeur.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @21
    My conclusion of you is that you are a waste of the Pinochet regime finding it hard to get friends in your home nation, hence you turn to Mercopress to find allies. Only reason they talk to you is because you lick their boots clean and they can point at you and say “See?” Not to mention you are old, way too old :) Gusssssanitooo :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    20 - Yeah righto Troll. As usual all past wrongs by RG's are explained away with lies, and more lies. I wager it because your country lost the war and fell humiliated. It was massively popular in Argentina its just a new RG slant on the war, it wasnt our fault we are not to blame. Defaulting on loans, its not our fault we are not to blame. Re-nationalising and asset stripping Spanish Oil company...yes you guessed it NOT TO BLAME. Argentina must be the most blameless honest country in the world.
    The Falklands invasion was massively popular in Argentina, just one look on this site and displays of aggressive Argentine colonial attitudes tell us this is the case. So not amazing i dont 'think' (giggle)

    just get over feeling humiliated and get on with saving your broken economy. The falklands will never by Argentine jajajajajaja, now if you cosy up to your new masters china that may be another story, the up and coming power i 'think' (giggle) they may be able to help you.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @23
    The Malvinas war was pest or colera for us, only bad thing was that the scumbag puppets in charge of Argentina bloody didn't send their own sons to fight you, otherwise it would've been a win-win :)

    Yes, Argentina is to blaim for kicking Repsol all the way back to Spain, and we are so proud of our sister nation :)

    Finally, Argentina will never again invade the Malvinas, and you know why? Because they are better than you folks...

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    Not better at fighting though my Troll friend , not better at fighting

    Nite nite

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You are right, you ARE better at killing :)
    The pride of the donkey...

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    26 - Yo woke me up cheeky

    How many RG citizens did the junta kill??

    The Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo came together during Argentina's military dictatorship between 1976-83 when some 30,000 suspected people were “disappeared' in state-sponsored violence against suspected leftwing subversives. In 1977 mothers of some of the disappeared started to meet every Thursday outside congress in Buenos Aires to demand information about their missing children. With the return to civilian government in 1983, the Mothers resisted the decision to pardon ”dirty war” officials and vowed to continue their fight for justice.

    really am going to bed now nite

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @27
    I'm glad we agree on that bit at least, the Mothers are national heroes, and we all demand justice for them, actually, the Kirchners are giving them the scumbags responsible for the atrocities done. 1 by 1 they are marching straight to jail, and the people are cheering :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    28 Guzz : If Hebe de Bonafini is such a heroe , how come she too is accused of theft and corruption along with her nephew , allegedly for stealing the funds they are supposed to administer on behalf of the dependents of the 30,000 ( more like 10,000 actually , but then you get 3 x times the compo if you say 30k , get it ??? ) ?
    Also , how come ERP and Montonero terrorists that planted bombs , murdered policemen and kidnapped and killed people do not face trial for their actions ? Of course , because they are now the government , silly me.
    You constantly blame the invasion of '82 on the military , but any press report or film footage of the time clearly shows all the people were 100% in support of it .

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @29 Don't be a fool, if you want to twist history, be my guest, but it's only happening in your head. Read history. Or don't, I don't care :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Gizz - not only will Argentina never invade the Falklands again, Argentina will never get it's grubby hands on them. Military action failed, diplomatic attempts have failed (and have provided entertainment watching Argentina embarras herself) and Argentina cannot isolate the Falkland Islands economy. Why, because the UK is better than Argentina and simply clearing our throat has more diplomatic impact than Argentine hysterics.

    Anyway, with an increasingly autocratic leadership and an economy about to lose control of its bowels Argentina has more important things to concern itself with, rather than get all bothered about a prosperous, self-determining BOT that wants nothing to do with it.

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    When your ship sinks (with the AAA imprinted on the flag), Argentina wont HAVE to invade, the islanders will come by themselves asking for papers :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Gizz - let me know what you have been smoking. With delusion like that it must be powerful stuff. Not going to happen and you know it :-) Ultimatly our assets are worth more than our debts and written don't have to go raiding our national bank to make interest payments.

    Enjoy the continual decline and i hope your glorious leader donate all her ill gotten gains to support those ordinary Argies who are going to be shafted by her mismanagement.

    Good luck. You are going to need it

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/04/10/argentine-factory-begins-production-of-pampa-training-aircraft-with-german-help

    strap 2-4 of the new exocets on each of the 40 Aircraft that Argenvina wants using them in a mass hit and run tactic and its a headache for any lone world class warship. however could argenvina aquire such a number of exocets? without they would be sitting ducks.

    clearly Development Aid no longer needed??

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    9.8 Trillion USD in debt :)
    Good luck to you, Greece :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    You defend Argentina, most unwisely.

    This is not a case of David-v- goliath,
    Its good-v-evil,
    And CFK has lost,
    Only she don’t know it yet,

    But she will, and her supporters .

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @36
    I agree with you that this is not David vs Goliat. Mainly because Argentina isn't David and UK certainly is no Goliat...
    The only ones that are going to loose are the common folks of the UK, the middle class. They are going to have to pay the debt, and your welfare is going to hit rock bottom, sadly. I say sadly because your common folks are just like our common folks, pieces, bricks in a game we did not choose to play. And good is not within a border, just as bad isn't...

    By the way, thank God I'm atheist :)

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    haha good .

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @38
    And Briton, I am sorry if I offended you. You are one of the few that are able to uphold a normal conversation. The rest of this posters tend to rely on personal offences as soon as they run out of arguments. And if that is the standard of these conversations, then lets all have fun...
    I am fully aware of the fact that my one-liner posts have had nothing but destructive criticism, and usually that is not the way I wish to maintain a conversation, but if it is ok to hit us with personal assaults, then it must be ok both ways, don't you agree?
    Never meant to generalise like that, but Chucky, Yanqui and miss Elaine took it a bit too far...

    Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    One may respect dedication of Hebe de Bonafina and her Madres de Plaza de Mayo, but the Falklands will never be part of Argentina no matter how much dialogue that she thinks should happen towards that end. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia1Vy233w4M)

    May 01st, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #40 I completely agree. By the way, the mentally challenged #39 who claims to be a married Uruguayan, is a single male, of mixed-nationality, most likely between 18 and 25 years of age, underemployed, most likely still living with his mother in northern-Europe. He exhibits a non-completed mediocre education with English as his primary language. An extremely self-centered narcissist, who craves attention and acknowledgement from others. He has trouble empathizing with superiors or understanding their positions. He’s apparently extremely sensitive to rejection - implied, perceived or real from others and may react with displays of aggression, threats or temper tantrums when denied. He claims being a “marine engineer” that commutes between Denmark and Uruguay, but the conclusion is its nothing more than another manifestation of his delusions of grandeur.

    May 01st, 2012 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Chucky!! :)
    You are not only a gusanito, you are a repetitive gusanito :)
    Post it again :) :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • juapell

    Our pilots were brave. Our 18 years old conscripts were brave. The rest of our military class was only good to kill, torture and kidnap civilians.
    Our president now is a crazy incoherent woman sorrounded by the most ignorant people in our country only good at stealing the last peso from the hard working argentinians.
    And this is what scare me the most. she is capable of one of these days, agaisnt all odds, to attack the falklands just to keep herself in power.
    Please if she does, this time, send a nuclear submarine to the Rio de la Plata and destroy Puerto Madero luxurious appartments> This is the place where all the corrupts that make us look so bad to the rest of the world lives.
    And this is strategic info.

    May 01st, 2012 - 04:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @43
    Don't be anti-democratic and use your right to vote instead of doing like you always do, ask foreign nations to take over your own country, VENDEPATRIA. GUSANO :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    30 # Guzz : All the foreign posters will Google : Bonafini /ERP/Montoneros and decide for themselves .
    You can't because you like the Campora free hamburgers too much
    This really is priceless ......
    PS : If you are Uruguayan , I am the Pope .

    May 01st, 2012 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrabs

    Guzz I posted this on another thread but it stands up to scrutiny here given you do not understand debt

    Some interesting stuff here but a lot containing sheer ignorance especially in relationship to the UK debt mountain or not.

    London is probably the second biggest finance centre in the world and so many companies and countries have decided to issue Eurobonds in that market with UK investment/merchant banks as the underwriters.

    These debts then show up as UK in the oft quoted CIA handbook even though they are not public debt (i.e. that of the UK government) but remains as external debt.

    If you look closely other financial centres such as Luxembourg are similarly skewed.

    I think you should learn to interpret figures before quoting blindly.

    I work in restructuring and probably know a bit more about economics than the average poster.

    May 01st, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    43 juapell

    It's ok, take no notice of Guzz, He always likes to be the centre of attention ( the other kids at school all talk about him behind his back )

    I hear you, it is a shame that Argentina always seems to vote in the WRONG leader. Always picks the one that does their very best to ruin the country, not improve it and grow it. We wish you well, SA needs a stable, un-corrupted Argentina.

    May 01st, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    #34 GOOD LUCK with that plan just one slight problem exocet weighs 1.5 tonnes
    about 4 times the weight that any hardpoint on the Pampa can carry but I m sure physics wont get in the way of your plan :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @24 Sorry Guzzle, your attempt to pass yourself off as a person isn't working. How's your Glorious Leader El Maximo? And we know that YOUR cuntry is full of “Mothers”. “Motherfuckas”. The Islanders won't be going anywhere near the cesspit. Way off on the debt, dimwit. You really need to learn the difference between civilised and barbarian number systems. But it's the “common” people of argieland that are going to suffer, badly. Mostly because you have far more “common” people. If you have any people. Don't get desperate because one of your own can recognise your corruption and realises that you have to be purged. Would you like to lead on listing the organisations and individuals that should be purged? We can offer typical argie purging methods. Sky-diving is very popular this year!

    May 01st, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ken Ridge

    32 jizz

    “Argentina wont HAVE to invade, the islanders will 'come' by themselves asking for papers”

    Oh dear, finding the Uruguyan front difficult to keep up Jizz? A good lier needs a good memory.

    46 Redrabs
    Your text is wasted on young Jizzy, he got the 9 trillion debt thing from the super reliable “Gardian” and checked it against Wiki for reliability.

    That's an Argetard for ya.

    May 01st, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @49 It is a known fact you are prepared to die for your country, so do us all a favour and go ahead, the sooner the better :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrabs

    “I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country”

    George C Scott in Patton

    May 01st, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @46 9.8 TRILLIONS in Eurobond??? :) :) :)
    Fair enough you take us for fools, but you are only fooling yourself :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    44 Guzz (#)
    May 01st, 2012 - 06:18 am

    Juanpell is not asking anyone to take over our country, he's asking someone to take out the cancerous growth in Puerto Madero, the seat of corruption in Argentina.

    May 01st, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @54 Sounds like a very democratic way of doing it, dont' you think? But we know how your democrazy works, you scums are only democratic as long as the people chooses the ones who attend to your interests. If any socialist is elected, the common procedure of your democrazy, is a coup.... But you know what? NUNCA MAS :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    55 Guzz (#)
    May 01st, 2012 - 03:55 pm

    Kretina says she is a socialist, where is the coup. They've been in power since 2002, no coup.
    Alfonsin was a socialist and forced out by peronist unions. De la Rua was a socialist also forced out by the same unions.
    Peronism is fascism pure and simple and Kretina and Máximo are doing the fascist thing right now.

    May 01st, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @56 If you check up on “La pequeña guerra de mierda”, you'll see that Argentines from the left to the right were in war with eachother, all shouting “viva Peron”, so being Peronista doesn't mean anything regarding the ideologic spectrum. What can I say, it's the Italian gene :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    34 PirateLove

    Let's get real about the nice little aircraft that Argentina are to buy / build 40 off (down from 100).

    That is all it is. Forget strapping ANY Exocet AM39B (Block 3) on it al all: they weight 670Kg (1,500 lb) and the aircraft in its limited attack mode is utterley incapable of carrying any and getting off the floor nevermind getting to the Falklands (there are no Malvinas).

    With a lower bomb / rocket load it could get to the islands but it would need refuelling once the bombs had gone. Do you think a Type 45 would not have knocked it out of the sky well before that.

    Don't worry about all 40 getting off the floor in Argentina either (2016 earliest): the Type 45 can kill them ALL before they have left their runway on the mainland. AND that is without the defences on the islands themselves.

    A Type 45 can kill all the present pitiful Mirage 3s & 5s (about 20 or so and dropping out of the skies due to airframe fatigue) and ALL 40 of the trainer / limited attack aircraft without replenshment.

    And there are still 4 Typhoons who can kill similar planes without even being in visual range of the enemy.

    If I had the money I would buy a trainer version, it would be a nice limited range personal jet for me and the wife.

    May 01st, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17908679

    HMS Dauntless is on the way, give her a nice welcome

    May 01st, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrabs

    Guzz

    You really don't understand international financial markets do you?

    I have restructured one fund which had USD26 billion of bonds and that is one of many.

    The UK national debt (government) is actually about USD1.6 trillion

    http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt

    The rest is non government and the government is not lender of last resort.

    Conservatively the Bond market is in the region of USD90 trillion.

    As the UK is a major financial centre a lot of bonds are written there but they are not the debts of the UK

    You need to understand finance before making such crass comments as you have.

    Argentina is unfortunately a financial basket case and the flight of capital seems to be increasing from that country. The UK on the other hand is viewed as a safe haven.

    Try reading the Economist which explains matters even to Non-financial experts

    May 01st, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @Redrabs 9.8 TRILLIOS is someone elses debt?? And you guys say we blaim everything on others :) :) :)

    Public Debt
    Definition: This entry records the cumulative total of all government borrowings less repayments that are denominated in a country's home currency. Public debt should not be confused with external debt, which reflects the foreign currency liabilities of both the private and public sector and must be financed out of foreign exchange earnings.

    According to YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT the debt is like this:

    http://www.dmo.gov.uk/documentview.aspx?docname=publications/quarterly/oct-dec11.pdf&page=Quarterly_Review

    So, either I trust your own governments numbers, or your shady explanaition...
    You sure you passes your courses?? :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Piny

    Con todo el respeto posible, vivan en paz que nadie va invadir las islas.
    LATINO AMÉRICA UNIDA

    May 01st, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @Redrabs
    Don't know where to start....
    First of all, my pardons for that silly remark that says more about me than about your studies. I'm sure you know your office.
    Of course you are right, I didn't check my facts, nor my currency exchange. But worst of all, I trusted CIA as a source of information, that will NOT happen again. Your numbers are correct, UK debt IS 1.6 Trillion USD.
    Even so, it's ridiculous (not saying you stated it) to say that SA countries have more debt, because they don't. Argentinas debt is at 136 Billion USD, hence pretty much lower than the UK's, and that was the source of the discussion. If one takes the GDP (and NOT from CIA page, I don't trust them with the time) per capita and subtract the debt per capita, the Argentinians still have more dollars per capita, with the difference that instead of getting a massive negative result, the UK lands on a pretty fair 9100 USD (per capita)...
    Again, I'm sorry for that silly remark.

    May 01st, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    39 Guzz (#) Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:30 pm Report abuse
    @38
    And Briton, I am sorry if I offended you

    No offence was taken, after a while you get to know who is, and who isn’t,

    But remember it’s only an opinion,
    Not always good or bad, and some will disagree, but it is only opinions,
    We have no influence over David or Cristina,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    But its nice to have a good argument, with no offence intended,
    Just an opinion.
    After all,
    We cant all be British, [just the British]lol.

    .

    May 01st, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @ Briton
    I should never have downed myself to that Gusanos level, I'm bloody not like him. I appreciate a good discussion and freely admit when I'm wrong...

    And what can I say= We can't all be Uruguayans :)

    May 01st, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #64 “We have no influence over David or Cristina”

    Well I hope to influence David through campaigning and democratic votes. As for Cristina I suppose you could say that me and millions of others remaining loyal supporters can influence her to stay strong =)

    “But its nice to have a good argument, with no offence intended”

    From usually the other side of the argument, I'm happy to second that =)

    May 01st, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    In this day and age, and especially in the UK we seem to use the ballet box, to tumble from one set of fools to another set of fools, none of them are any much good, always the idiots seem to run its party, and most of them who promise the earth, when canvassing always simple forget what they promised and conveniently do what ever suits them
    ……………………………………..
    We in Britain have a few simple yet most difficult problems, that a 5 year old can solve, but despite the truth being freely available these corrupt incompetent politicians seem to ffck it all up .
    /////////////////////////////////
    But is /was that a fair comment,
    Well only time will tell I suppose,
    Should have gone into politics,
    Instead we went to spec-savers lol.
    .

    May 01st, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    What headline is next Mercopress?

    “London will receive rainfall sometime this year” ???

    May 01st, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Probably more drought orders ..

    May 01st, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    I don't know but it is clear the news has been slow recently on the Falklands and the Argentina vs the World trade front, so we get this. Captain Obvious poor showing.

    May 01st, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • you are not first

    1 Martin Woodhead

    Your name fits you well. Do not worry much. The Argies are not going to copy your ignorant, absolutist, and empire- narrow mind skills. We will make sure that your identity is not touched in our process to recover our territory. How much you spend in your Royal Navy? You may think about investing in a better Health System or upgrading your education before India use UK for a vacation resort to play cricket. I am sorry if I ask you too much considering your low IQ.
    Please, do not focus in my bad English... be a mature reader.

    May 02nd, 2012 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    With all due respect its not your territory never has been unikely ever to be unless the islanders have a radical change of mind.
    we dont actually spend that much on defence compared to gdp but are gdp is large so the military can have nice things

    May 02nd, 2012 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    71- Defense spendinf is extremly low, Royal Navy is massively underfunded. Just hope we manage to commisison our 2 new super carriers. if we do iam sure they will pay you all a visit albeit with 2 planes on the flight deck! National Health service is massively funded and on the whole a good service. Do the RG's have a free health service for all?

    May 02nd, 2012 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    @73
    Yes they do, in fact, Argentine healthcare is divided in three sections. A free public healthcare, a insurance-based healthcare (obras sociales) funded by the workers, and a private healthcare... What's your point?

    May 02nd, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    Errr hello Mcfly you mentioned the UK should spend more money in the National Health service.
    I asked you a question about Argentine Health Sevice, its called debate / conversation finding facts out not quoting from your Kircher Youth Troll Script. The answers on page 5. ''Give peace a chance''

    May 02nd, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    money money money
    The UK spends about 120 billion on the NHS plus millions more through other avenues,

    We think this is a lot,
    Do you think, it is a lot or mere pennies

    May 02nd, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    @68 Sorry Guzz but your link shows the UK govt figure for debt is just over GBP 1bn net i.e. after deducting debts which the DMO has bought back that is about USD 1.6tn.

    I presume you are adding up all the analysis on the page but this is just that analysis of the different ways of splitting up the debt. You are adding the same numbers together over and over again.

    May 03rd, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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