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Peace Nobel laureates deliver letter to PM Cameron office calling for Falklands’ dispute dialogue
Argentine Peace Nobel prize winner Adolfo Pérez Esquivel delivered in London a letter of seven Peace Nobel winners to Prime Minister David Cameron urging UK along with Argentina to reach a peaceful solution over the sovereignty of the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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May 02nd, 2012 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Every nasty regime has its 'useful idiots' who can be manipulated.This guy is still a 'Malvinista' even if he is a pacifist and has been shown to be totally biased. The British contribution to a peaceful South Atlantic; ie HMS Dauntless, 4 Typhoons and 1200 troops is much more realistic when dealing with KFC and her minions.
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares? It's just more of the same nonsense and is of zero value.
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0This attempt at pressure as ever will clearly lead to nothing.
Out of all the Nobel Peace Laureates alive today they only managed to get 7 to sign? That's pretty lame...
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hopefully the letter will be filed appropriately.
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0However, I see no reply from the Nobel fellows to the open letter from MLA Halford. The non-reply of course is entirely attributable to the fact that none of the Nobel fellows recognise the Falkland Islanders and their right to self-determination. How will they cross that divide?
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's funny that Argentines always use the word 'dialogue' in connection with their claim but how can there be a dialogue when one party already has the outcome of those “discussions” enshrined in their constitution?
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is not a dialogue that is wanted by the Argentines- it is a MONOLOGUE.
Yeah, laureates calling for 'dialogue' who can't even be bothered to reply to the islander's letter or invitation to educate themselves on the matter. . .much hypocrisy on their part methinks.
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Essentially their bluff has been called, the laureates seek not to embarrass themselves further.
gives us the falklands is not a negociation.
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0although being forced to surrender and leave the islands did resolve it the the last time.
Give peace a chance through bombing EU offices / Ignoring self-determination/ Knobel Not-peace Prize stylee?
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Norway on giving prizes to complete choppers.
@7 You're not wrong there. There's only one side talking apparently.
“... seven Peace Nobel winners ... urge UK, along with Argentina, to reach a peaceful solution over the sovereignty of the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands.”
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presumably they delivered the same letter to CFK. Anybody know?
But, wtf, there is peace, and there has been a solution....
this was settled “again” (with the same tiredness as evinced by Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump) by Argentina's surrender in 1982.
The rights accorded to territorial ownership are established worldwide; there is nothing to negotiate.
No Dialogue, No Negotiations, No nothing.
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't you got the message yet, Argentina?
You have NO RIGHTS here & we don't want you.
You are right, that means the world must be wrong... That's british arrogance at its prime :)
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Don't you think it is unfortunate that the Nobel Prize winners appear to have refused to even respond to the invitation of the Islanders to visit the Falklands? This can also be described as arrogance.
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, rampant Argentinian hypocracy: British unwillingness to enter into pointless “dialogue” given the preconceived Argentinian position that only one outcome is acceptable, as ridiculously enshrined in their constitution, is branded as “arrogance”, while their flagrant breaches of international law are no doubt seen as perfectly justified. Never ceases to amaze me that anyone bothers with this bunch of unpleasant, lying cheats.
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0So only 7 peace prize winners of of the 40+ winners in the last 30 years.
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0ICBL and Jody Williams “for their work for the banning and clearing of anti-personnel mines” - like those left by Argentina in 82
@16
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 07 pretty heavy names in that list, I'm sure the world listens more to those 7 than to you 15 in here :)
@17
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0A lot of heavier names not on that list
@17
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0That doesn't mean they support your cause :)
It doesn't mean that they support Argentina's cause.
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is the problem but they use the “Peace Nobel laureate” tittle to suggest that they speak for the Peace Nobel laureate community.
Those 7 do support Argentinas cause, and for every time 1 of them opens their mouth, you need to scream a million times to have the same impact :)
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0#21
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares? Any credibility that the Nobel peace prize ever had was totally destroyed when Obama was awarded it!
@22
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Desmond Tutu alone makes the whole “3rd world” care :) Besides, these was only the signatures of the Peace Prize winners, a whole bunch of other known faces signed it, amongst others our very own Eduardo Galeano (I know you don't know him, but that's your ignorance, nothing to do with us), Federico Mayor (ex-pres of UNESCO) and even a Colombian Senator (who would have thought) :)
For god's sake not this again!!!
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the Nobel peace prize winners really, REALLY wanted to help they would be telling Argentina to leave the Falklands alone. If they wanted to be taken seriously they would have at the very least done a little research into the issue themselves before they all leapt onto the “Give peace a chance” bandwagon.
Those 7 have just made themselves look foolish and have not made themselves look any good to the UK government or the Falkland Islanders.
If they really wanted to help they would have kept out of this but as always, the rest of the world knows best doesn't it? Everyone else knows what's best for the Islanders because how could they know themselves what they want? LOL
7 RedBaron Of course that's what they want, why can't these Knobel Not-peace Prize winners see that as well?
10 GreekYoghurt I think you were right to call them Knobel Not-peace Prize winners
@24 ... it's curious that not one of these Knobel Prize winners gives a hoot about the Spanish pensioners who had their shares in YPF-repsol stolen by Argentina, probably making their retirement uncertain and fearful.
May 02nd, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While the Knobel not-peace prize winners like Desmond 'peace' Tutu and Argentinian Landmine-lady are swigging wine from golden cups, they care not for the affects of the overt lack of Argentinian morality or peace.
Have any of them come out to say anything about La Campora bombing an EU office? I doubt any of them have, because let's face it, they love peace *sarcasm*
@25 La Campora bombing a peace office? They are investigating if it wasn't two morons from the right-wing that, in lack of arguments, almost hurt themselves trying to create one :)
May 02nd, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another notable letter noting the Argentine May Day celebrations was sent yesterday to President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, expressing their solidarity in nationalizing YPF as well as encouraging her to use whatever force necessary in efforts for the national reunification with the Islas Malvinas.
May 02nd, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The letter was signed by:
President Ali Abdul - Yemen
President Evo Morales - Bolivia
Kim Jung Maximo - North Korea
Raul and Fidel Castro – Cuba
TEODORO OBIANG NGUEMA MBASOGO of Equatorial Guinea
YAHYA JAMMEH of Gambia
Desmond Tutu of South Africa
BLAISE COMPAORÉ of Burkina Faso
YOWERI MUSEVENI of Uganda
President Bashar Al Assad - Syria
President Ahmadinejad - Iran
President Hugo Chavez - Venezuela
President Abdela – Algeria
OMAR HASSAN AL-BASHIR of Sudan
ISAIAS AFWERKI of Eritrea
MELES ZENAWI of Ethiopia
IDRISS DÉBY of Chad
'encouraging her to use whatever force necessary in efforts for the national reunification with the Islas Malvinas. ;
May 02nd, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...entirely peacefully, of course.
With friends like that- a fime collection of dictators, maniacs and kleptocrats- who needs enemies?
@Chucky :)
May 02nd, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did you get that list from :)
Oh, forgot, you NEED NO SOURCES :)
An open message to the laureates (nicked from elsewhere I'll admit).
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahem:
”The UK has never refused to enter into dialogue with the Argentinians even under Res. 2165.The simple fact is ,that self determination is covered under Res. 2165 (and Article 1 of the UN Charter) , an inconvenient truth for the Argentines as the only outcome of the dialogue they will countenance is a hand over of sovereignty. In other words it wants dialogue with the UK ,but only if the answer is predetermined”.
Now STFU and keep your self righteous noses out of it, it is none of your business.
I-thank-you.
@30 Good copypasta. Do you have any sauce?
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Given that La Campora is the militant wing of the KFC's 'Front for Tyranny' it's not surprising that they've chosen terrorism as their method of attacking foreign entities that bear the eye of disfavour from KFC herself.
It will be interesting to see which patsy takes a fall for La Campora in this case.
Hague should have at least considered “PNG'ing” Arg Amb Castro for her remarkable lack of respect for diplomacy, but this Nobel letter just reminds one of William F Buckley's comment that he would rather be tried by the first 12 names in a Boston telephone book than by faculty of Harvard University. Its similar to the “dialogo” suggestion the Página/12 letter signed by those Argentine notables (http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-188182-2012-02-23.html ) - they propose NO renunciation of the “inalienable” right of Argentina to grab the Falklands, but maybe just some pleasant dickering around letting Falklanders speak English and drive on the left.
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this a repeat article http://en.mercopress.com/2012/03/28/six-nobel-peace-prize-winners-call-on-uk-to-open-talks-on-falklands-sovereignty or Copy 2 of the letter.
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pity none of the “peace laureates” had the courtesy to reply to MY messages as well as the letter from MLA Halford. Wonder how much they've been PAID? Or perhaps CFK promised not to interfere with their activities?
So. No points for the nobel dimwits. I'll be dropping a line to David Cameron advising him what to do with their crap. Wonder if they used enough paper to make 8 sheets of toilet paper?
Some previous winners of the Nobel Peace prize =
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0General George Marshal, a former Company Commander during the Phillipine-American War in which hundreds of thousands of Phillipino's are said to have been killed or massacred, WW1 Staff Officer to John J. Pershing who made huge mistakes which cost the lives of tens of thousands of American soldiers, WW2 Army Chief of Staff and later Secretary of Defence during the Korean WAR.
Geroge C Marshal - not a peace lover it would seem!
Henrey Kissenger - do I even need to go here? Here's a few links -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
Henry Kissenger is a wanted War criminal and has been intimatly linked to most of the major conflicts of the Cold War and post cold war era.
Frederik Willem de Klerk - the leader of the apartite state of South Africa, a man inolved in the border war with Angola, the occupation of Namibia, the war in Mozambique, the Angolan civil War, the Rhodesian Bush War.
Nelson Mandela - at the time of his award, a recently released former terrorist leader.
Yasser Arafat - a terrorist
Yitzhak Rabin & Shimon Peres - leaders of an apartite Zionist state, both former terrorists.
Barack Obama quote: “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.” - Obama has at the time of his award not even offially taken office! He is of course a President that has presideded over the ongoing war in Afghanistan, the continuing conflict in Iraq, the continued use of Guantanemo Bay for detaining “suspects” in AMerica's ongoing war of terror aimed at the resource rich reagions of the world.
Nobel Peace Prize = nothing nobel and nothing about peace!
@33
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm... Desmond Tutu - Conqueror, Conqueror - Eduardo Galeano.... :)
#32
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security.” ...Sort of fits CFK's concept of the world...
William F. Buckley was an amazing individual. Several years ago, I was very fortunate to attend a conference where he spoke. His castellano was impeccable.
@36 How was his falsetto?
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Mr Perez, have you ever been to the Falkland Islands?
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Mr Perez, do you know the history of the Islands or have you been fed Argentine propaganda all of your life?
@38 You could write a song about that.
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#23 Guzz
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you acknowledge that you have regressed to Third World Status?
The claim of Argentina is flimsy to say the least and self-determination overrides all other considerations despite the poor Ambassador forgetting the UN treaty.
You seem like a good bloke but misguided
@40
May 02nd, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't believe in British claims of the islands being “sef-determinating”. That's (for me) an excuse to annex a territory and say “Hey, we let them rule themselves”, just like Britain did in Northern Ireland.
Tell me, what does the UN say about the Malvinas/Falklands?
The statuses of 1st, 2nd and 3rd world are distant to me, and I'm sure I speak for most of our continent when I say there is only one world...
@41 According to Chapter I Article I of the UN Charter the UN says we all should “develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace”
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To argentinians like yourself this means, La Campora bombing EU offices, stealing assets without negotiation or dialogue, no self-determination for peoples, no equal-rights by pushing 'brown' people under trains, and peace which consists of intimidation and threats of forced annexation.
That's why no one can understand how Argentina is a member of the UN.
@42
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You see Greek why we always mistrust you? Because you make up your own alternative reality in your (and this is personally for you) peanut-sized brains (reason for the size is because it's swollen) and make it your truths (like me being from where you want). Then you use these “truths” against us, calling them for facts. That worked before the age of information technology, when people didn't have access ti instant information, but that's not the case anymore. You need to redeem your tactics :)
@42 What you're doing there is pathological projection. You're trying to suggest people mistrust me, which they don't. People mistrust you, because you tell lies. You're clearly an Argtard, and you want to be a member of La Campora, but you abandoned your country.
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In order to deal with your reality, you're now trying to 'project' this onto other people. You need to do some self-reflection.
@44
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know you want Uruguay to be your friends, and I know have a great nation, even though it's small. I also know you like coming here, and have told all your rightie friends how good a country it is, hence I understand it's hard for you to accept me. But no matter how far you crawl up our arses, we don't like you, doesn't mean we don't like brits (I got a few friends there), we don't like YOU :)
@45 For a Argtard, you're pretty dull. Shouldn't you be screaming and shouting at a press conference somewhere?
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 No, Guzzle, there are two worlds. The real world and the one you “live” in. What you “believe” is irrelevant. Because you don't get a say. Britain gets a say because it has been there since 1690. And the Islands have legally been a British territory since 1765. The Islanders get a say because they live there and have done for at least NINE generations. On this level it doesn't matter whether you are an argie prick (do argies have pricks?) or a Uruguayan toe-rag.
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Oh dear. You don't like being insulted but you have no problem handing it out. What you need to do is to STFU.
@45 Here's a tip. Britain was instrumental in creating Uruguay. But actually you have no more significance or importance than Wales. But what is funny is you suggesting that we crawl up your arse. Your pitiful little bit of land is like a segment of Ourobouros. Argiland is already so far up your arse that you can see it easily. Cross your eyes. It's that thing you think is your nose. At the other end, you come out of argie noses as snot. And THAT is YOU! Now you know why you are thought of by intelligent people as a dickhead. Because that's an argie glans sticking out the front of your face.
Guzz - I would imagine from a quick read of the posts on this forum and other articles that you and maybe one other are paid Kircher Youth Trolls.
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It might just be one overweight teenager in a dingy flat in BA hunched over the computer with a couple of different log ons / personalities. Hope the food parcels good.. your doing a cracking job as i would say the majority of posters think your a paid Troll.
Maybe your masters will provide you with a list posters that support you and thus prove you are popular, like the constant quote ''all the world supports us, all of SA supports us.
No evidence of that, didnt the reichmistress throw a wobbler when nobody supported her at a recent summit, she left early and as we say in the UK threw her toys out of her pram.
#23
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I repeat, who cares? 3rd world? Bunch of dictatorships, run by wealthy and corrupt leaders who ruthlessly exploit their people. Bit like Argentina .....
the new is PEsquivel giving the letter, to see what it says and who signed read this
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.lapoliticaonline.com/noticias/val/81913/perez-esquivel-le-dio-una-carta-a-cameron-por-el-tema-malvinas.html
#50
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The letter is complete nonsense. “intolerancia”? Just remember who started a war in 1982.
It is always the same - find a peaceful solution to the dispute of sovereignty.
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only solution that Argentina want is that the Falklands Islands belong to them.
@47
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Finally!!!
Yes, that's my country, that little one lost in the south :)
And hopefully we'll get you pack out of our arses too, because the fact that we are doing great doesn't mean we want you here. And that goes for you arrogant ones (you know who you are), for I will not generalise, I've read up on Britain, and it's not at all as bad as you had me believing. It's YOU, not Britain :)
Regarding #53
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would like to take him somewhat seriously, but to do so would affront his wretched intelligence. BTW: He's proven in previous posts that he's not from Uruguay. (If you read into his foolishness, one quickly realizes the numerous dim-witted contradictions.)
@54
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you are not from Chile, at least not if we ask our chilean brothers and sisters :)
Guzzle : And hopefully we'll get you pack out of our arses too ....
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They DO like it up 'em Mr Mannering !!!
@56
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elections tomorrow in Britain :)
Smell that? It's the smell of british brothers and sisters :)
Regarding #57
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In his last statement, he's proven beyond a doubt that he's not the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer. Whoever he is, he's certainly not from Uruguay. I speculate he's living with his mother in some wretched hovel lashing out with anyone that speaks negatively about his queen Cristina. (Perhaps the mother he fantasizes he had, and perhaps he pretends to be his alter ego Maximo by eating soy oil creampuffs all day long dreaming of these delusions.)
As another wrote today of his posts: “Here Freud would suggest [he's] using the pathological [schizophrenic] defense mechanism of [adolescent] distortion... using a combination of dissociation and identification in order to reinforce [his] own perceptions of being not-argentine.”
@58 You licking Uruguays arse doesn't make me Argentinian, although I wouldn't be bothered being one... if it wasn't for the footies, of course :)
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercopress : Your title is wrong , the letter was not delivered to Cameron , who has more important things to worry about than the ramblings of a bunch of idiots . The letter was delivered to an opposition Member of Parliament , Jeremy Corbyn , so not even a govt member.
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzzleito : Municipal elections only . Only 33% of the municipalities ( councils ) , so not very important .
My spies in the Casa Rosada tell me that Cristina is spitting mad at Alicia because she referred to “ The Falkland Islands ” when she interrupted William Hague , and called them that twice .
Cristina reprimanded Alicia in heated a conversation that lasted over an hour . Cristina told her she is seriously considering replacing her .
@60
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, little by little your own country is waking up :)
And mind I say this without even knowing the outcome nor the situation :)
#60
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Still, little by little your own country is waking up”
Do you think that's good for you? Don't you realise that by taking the Falklands issue centre stage you will only strengthen the UK government's hand? The more the British public hear about Argentina's bully boy tactics, the more they will support the Falklander's right to determine their own future.
@62
May 02nd, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't matter, people are sick and tired of your lies, and that includes the british commoners... You failed so terribly in the eyes of the world, that your only option was to take what was left, and now that you've filled your pockets, there is only one way, and that is down :)
Ah more tripe from guzz.
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you say failed so terribly in the eyes of the world, you actually mean in the eyes of a few vitriolic, twisted and no-lifers like yourself. Reality points to a different view of the British than the bizarre one you espouse.
How about you getting out and getting some form of a life instead of trying to reply to every post in all of the threads on this website?
Loser.
@64
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am outside, laptop next to me, asadito, enjoying the danish sun :)
Btw, ask Africa what they think of you, ask Asia :)
Why do you ask questions if you don't expect a response, “winner”? :)
@63 Sorry, little child. The British government is clear regarding the Falkland Islands and there are only a minority of (so-called British) arseholes who see things differently. If our government wants troops, the majority of a real NATION will volunteer. I will happily travel to South America and shoot any toe-rag who thinks he (unlikely), she (also unlikely), it (possible) is going to take the territory away from the rightful OWNERS. But thanks for letting us know that Uruguay is not a “proper” nation. Tip: Don't get in the way if you want to survive. I may be nearly 63 years old but I can still shoot. And I will be more than happy to do anything I can to ensure that the future of the Falkland Islands, unlike argieland, is UP. And if Uruguay is stupid enough to support the cesspit, on your own heads be it!
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@66
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rattle, rattle , rattle :)
Now you are talking like a proper brit :)
Why is it all of the no-lifers that come here to spread hate are even living in their own countries anymore?
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He can't help himself just mentioning Africa and Asia who both have for the most part excellent relations with the UK.
Still I guess these are the words and actions of someone who zero social life who has to get his kicks living on a internet forum spreading hate.
I think the term is 'keyboard warrior'
@68
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that how you define yourself? A keyboard warrior? Got news for you, “forum wars” are fought with wits, not guns, and you have plenty of the latter, but none of the first :)
@69 He was talking about people like yourself, toe-rag.
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some previous winners of the Nobel Peace prize =
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0General George Marshal, a former Company Commander during the Phillipine-American War in which hundreds of thousands of Phillipino's are said to have been killed or massacred, WW1 Staff Officer to John J. Pershing who made huge mistakes which cost the lives of tens of thousands of American soldiers, WW2 Army Chief of Staff and later Secretary of Defence during the Korean WAR.
Geroge C Marshal - not a peace lover it would seem!
Henrey Kissenger - do I even need to go here? Here's a few links -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
www.zpub.com/un/wanted-hkiss.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger
Henry Kissenger is a wanted War criminal and has been intimatly linked to most of the major conflicts of the Cold War and post cold war era.
Frederik Willem de Klerk - the leader of the apartite state of South Africa, a man inolved in the border war with Angola, the occupation of Namibia, the war in Mozambique, the Angolan civil War, the Rhodesian Bush War.
Nelson Mandela - at the time of his award, a recently released former terrorist leader.
Yasser Arafat - a terrorist
Yitzhak Rabin & Shimon Peres - leaders of an apartite Zionist state, both former terrorists.
Barack Obama quote: “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.” - Obama has at the time of his award not even offially taken office! He is of course a President that has presideded over the ongoing war in Afghanistan, the continuing conflict in Iraq, the continued use of Guantanemo Bay for detaining “suspects” in America's ongoing war on terror.
Nobel Peace Prize = nothing nobel and nothing about peace!
69 Guzzleito : If the so called Argentine ambassador refers to the Islands as the Falklands , you know you have lost the moral high ground.
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Latest word is she is seeking political asylum because her life is in danger at home because of this Freudian slip .
“.....That's why no one can understand how Argentina is a member of the UN.”
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is trying to get a group of nations to unite behind her bid to reverse the course of history. OK, no reason why not, but there are acceptable ways of going about this .. and there are foolish ways.
If and when Argentina takes on world-responsibilities in the UN Security Council she will be expected to act to world-rules.
This may be a time for growing-up.
One has to hope that there are as yet unrevealed statespersons hiding in the wings.
If and when I perceive Argentina displaying grown-up behaviour on the world stage, I will be the first to acknowledge it.
8 etherea1
May 02nd, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Yeah, laureates calling for 'dialogue' who can't even be bothered to reply to the islander's letter or invitation to educate themselves on the matter. . .much hypocrisy on their part methinks. Essentially their bluff has been called, the laureates seek not to embarrass themselves further.'
Good Point. I think they feel they were conned into signing the letter by the cunning Perez Esquivel. Hence the silence on their part...
Has anyone heard anything from the Nobel Peace laureates?
via email, twitter, phone etc?
I would have liked to have tracked one of em down, but haven't got the time.
we have nothing to say but ???
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0his first name says it all .
Nobel Laureates or not, they cut no ice with me.
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l don't care one jot for their opinions.
lf we have to be arrogant to keep the ravening wolf from our door, then l will be arrogant.
lt matters not what a failed rogue state like Argentina thinks.
“Trust in God, but keep your powder dry”- Oliver Cromwell.
whats good for the goose,,,is good for the gander,
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if argentina has claims on the falklands=
the falklands has a claim on argentina,
what goes up,, comes down .
77 briton
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are living in wrong place!!! The Malvinas Islads are Argentina, do not forget this!!!man
if the malvinas islands are argentinian, then who is arguing [man]
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but the british falklands are british, [man]
@76 “Trust in God, but keep your powder dry”- Oliver Cromwell.
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good quote-find there, and befitting of the situation.. I'm going to be digging that one up again.
@79
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0at the moment the Islands have pirate flag, so
not for long time, man! please do not forget this again!
“The Malvinas Islads are Argentina,”
May 03rd, 2012 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0...and the Falkland Islands aren't.
79 makes a very good point: Argentina would undoubtedly benefit from being administered by the Falkland Islands.
@81 puerto failedstate,
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0We haven't forgotten anything about you, man.
You can count on that.
l have an Argentine flag that we use to wipe our feet on.
Getting a bit ragged now!
83 lsolde (#)
May 03rd, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 03rd, 2012 - 08:57 am
I can let you have a job lot of our flags for next to nothing, Kretina and Ms. Castro have managed to lower the value of the Argentine flag by about 500%.
perhaps, if the falklands did control or oversea the argentine mainland, thing may well be a lot better than they are now,
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0interesting thought .
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A documentary about Nazi Argentina, on a discussion group the Argentine posters were quote “disapointed” that Argentina was still a military dicatorship. However you people are still fanatical nationalists with ambitions to add the entire South Atlantic and Antartica to your territorial aquisitions. next step will be Chile and Uraguay and they know it. Which is why we have so much support from the people of those nations.
May 04th, 2012 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6pB57lhPlk&feature=youtu.be&skipcontrinter=1
#36 Now he really WAS an extremist
May 04th, 2012 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0#58 Lame pop psychologising
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Misiones and Formosa Provinces are provinces of Argentina that were seized and annaxed by Argentina from Paraguay this page is dedicated to address Argentine hyporcacy and ensuring their return to Paraguay.
Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves, oversean by imported European colonials. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.
May 08th, 2012 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
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