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Falklands spot: Argentina trying to recover from “some diplomatic setbacks”, says Hague

Friday, May 4th 2012 - 17:21 UTC
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British Foreign Secretary William Hague has branded as a stunt an Olympic TV advert by Argentina featuring a hockey player training on the disputed Falkland Islands, described in the broadcast as “Argentine soil”. Read full article

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  • Simon68

    Unfortunately Argentina has had nothing but setbacks lately.

    We have 30% inflation.
    We have a national socialist government which seems to be patterned on Hitler's.
    We have a bipolar president who seems not to know what she's doing from one moment to the next.
    We have about 60% of our population dependent on government handouts who are thus the claque of this horrendous Government.
    We have a non existent opposition with only about 30 to 40 representatives who have the guts to stand up to the peronist nightmare.

    Yes Mr. Hague, we have had a few set backs.

    May 04th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    And yet Simon, one of the most productive and resource wealthy lands in the world. A well educated homogenous society that could accomplish anything... ...if only they would work harder and expect less from their government.

    May 04th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    2 Chicureo (#)

    Absolutely correct. We have a sort of built in aversion to hard work. I don't honestly know where it came from, our forbears were very hard working and managed to build a rich and wonderful country which lasted for.... about 30 years and then started down the tubes.

    What a shame!!!

    May 04th, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mendoc

    Thats very true. Handouts will always produce this kind of society no matter where. The problem is that in Argentina has had this going on for so long now that generations of Argentines think it is normal and do not see why it needs to be changed. Unfortunatly I don't see that it will change anytime soon. There simply doesn't seem to be a political movement that people rally behind. like i said, they are happy with things as they are in general on the one hand, yet acknowledging in private that Argentina “ no silbe” (excuse the bad spelling, it's how i hear it).

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    I doubt you're any more or less lazy than any other nation. I think it's more to do with the political and economic environment in place that doesn't encourage a society to flourish.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    There is still hope and personally think that Argentina will finally come to its senses. I have three very close Argentinean friends that come from very hard working families. You need political change...
    (Sorry about all the rhetoric- I'm making a point.)

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Simone68
    You still have a rich and wonderful country. I sincerely hope that one day it will be returned to her people and when it is, you can count on having friends in this country (UK.)

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    What a fucking shit tip Argentina has become. Frankly i'm appalled that people supposed to be examples to their countrymen eg the President behave in such a disgusting manner. The Argentine politicians make our sad bunch in the UK look like model citizens, which takes some doing considering how useless ours are.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please like this page in order to force Argentina to return Misiones and Formosa Provinces to Paraguay, the country they were stolen from in 1870!

    https://www.facebook.com/​pages/​Misiones-y-Formosa-son-de-P​araguay/250980491652629

    Misiones and Formosa Provinces are provinces of Argentina that were seized and annaxed by Argentina from Paraguay this page is dedicated to address Argentine hyporcacy and ensuring their return to Paraguay.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @9

    You forgot we stole Martin Garcia island, a unique river island, from Uruguay.

    Also that we stole southern Patagonia from Chile.

    And that we purchased land from Bolivia at a very underhanded price (Salena Purchase).

    I'd suggest you get working on those facebooks.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @8 TC
    Come off it. You can not blame an entire nation for the antics of a government electected by corruption. Just bear with me a minute and accept my suggestion, that there are decent people in Argentina who would dearly love to have a better life and better relations with us. Who would like to see the back of KFC. That does not mean for a second that we should be sorry for them, but it does mean that we should treat them with respect and support them in their efforts to make a better life, without KFC.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Please like this page in order to force Argentina to return Misiones and Formosa Provinces to Paraguay, the country they were stolen from in 1870!

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Misiones-y-Formosa-son-de-Paraguay/250980491652629?sk=photos

    Misiones and Formosa Provinces are provinces of Argentina that were seized and annaxed by Argentina from Paraguay this page is dedicated to address Argentine hyporcacy and ensuring their return to Paraguay.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @12

    Santa Cruz and Chubut were seized from Chile also.

    Northern Salta and Jujuy from Bolivia.

    Can't be a big country if you are not willing to fight for it.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Comment removed by the editor.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    & 12 ..+.. & 13

    For All I know Buenos Aires province were seized from UK !

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @14

    And we did. The country was born the size of France, now it is the size of Western Europe.

    We took lands from all our neighbors.

    Compare to Brazil which was pretty much born as is, Mexico which is half the size it used to be, or Gran Colombia which split into three and Central America which split into five.

    Out of all the countries in the Americas, only Argentina and the USA expanded from their original size.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @16 Tobias
    And you call us colonialist.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Comment removed by the editor.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @17

    Well I don't call you colonialists personally (you used to be certainly), but I get your point.

    If you don't expand you die. Argentina did and mostly succesfully, it only has lost one war in its history. No nation is undefeated in warfare.

    May 04th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @19 - so if Argentines are colonials and so are the Falklanders, and they can claim there ancestors on the islands back to before Argentina was even recognised as country, why are you trying to steal their lands?

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • xbarilox

    I'll love to see the Olympic games this time hahaha funny moments are waiting in London for the argentine athletes hahaha see ya in London guys ;)

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Smoko

    Nice job Y&R!!! Seems your “great comany” needs to apologies now?

    Advertising agency Young & Rubicam apologized for the ad created by its agency in Argentina, saying the spot was deeply offensive to people around the world and to the Olympic spirit.

    “We strongly condemn this work and have asked the Argentine government to pull the spot,” it said in a statement Friday, adding that the ad’s creators “behaved in a manner that is unacceptable” to the company.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @19
    Tobias
    What would you know about war. When was BA bombed for 90 consecutive nights in a row. When did you have to send your children away to the country, when did your people carry ration cards, when did your mothers learn to hate the sight of the postman. You know nothing about war. You played at it with people who do! and you were handed a severe lesson just exactly what it means.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @20

    I personally have no claim or interest in the Falklands. You would have to ask “malvinistas”.

    I would be careful though in making ancestral arguments. Just because there is a change in status does not change the “ancestral rights”. Argentina may have become independent in 1810 but some people have land in Argentina from the 1500s, way before any human even saw the Falklands.

    This means that if some day the Falklands choose to go independent, under YOUR logic at the exact moment independence is granted, “ancestral claims” are reset to zero *the start of the “country”)... which would mean Argentina could claim that its claim is OLDER than the country itself... and oops.

    The Falklanders can't claim ancestry older than Argentines because many in Argentina claim ancestry to way before the Falklands were even discovered.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Mr Hague is perfecty right - another stunt to sidetrack the gullible Argentinian public away from the grim reality that CFK and her politburo styled on a bunch of Nazi comedians haven't got a clue on how to run a modern country.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    So now argentina has and wants ancestral rights

    you will be claiming to be african tree dwellers next .

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @23

    Well, I guess you made my point, you dishonored all the men from this country that died crossing to help liberate the chileans, then the Peruvians.

    Those that died helping the Uruguayans in the Cisplaine war throw off the Brazilian monarchy's occupation.

    Etc, etc.

    I personally do not know war, but that wasn't the point until you changed the subject. If it suits you fine. Does not negate my point simply because you went off the tangent.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    I personally hate war and guns, bombs, missiles and any other munitions for that matter but then I've been in the services and seen the tragedy of these things.

    @23 - nearly every country knows war of some type, claiming one version of war is different than any other is a bit daft.

    Imagine being a young conscripted Argentine soldier, hungry and cold hearing the most effective and best trained British troops are landing looking for you, that must have been terror on a grand scale for those young inexperienced and ill-equipped men.

    All war is bad.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @27 Tobias
    Sorry I disagree. You stated That you had been defeated in 1 war. I simply used the experience of this country in war to illustrate a point. No one wins in war!

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    27. Have you won any wars since the steam engine was invented?

    This event is yet another misstep by stupid cfk and her thug minions. My gosh why don't they learn to keep their mouths shut? Such an embarrassment. ...

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BethnalGreen

    Hi, I'm new to Mercopress but only in the terms of adding a comment. I have been following the stories (and arguments/debates) for a while. I almost feel like I know you all lol, although I still have a lot to learn about you all I am very passionate about the Falkland Islands and their rights which is why I am here.

    It's easy for most Brits to think when they do see a news article about this stuff (which is rare as not all of this makes it to the news in Britain as a lot of you know) that it is just because of the anniversary. However, what most don't realise is that it has been going on since the war in 1982 and has just been racheted up recently for political gain. I know you all know this but...

    This advert bothers me. At first I thought it funny and still do - by that I mean 'so what else is new', or 'tell me something I don't know' . However, this is just the start of their campaign, and I am concerned about what else is to come, especially during the Olympics. The use of a war memorial is disgusting also but my major concern is that 4 athletes went for this advert - are there more to come? Also, if that happens, is this first one the most controversial? Or is there more? Lastly, is an invasion or something of that ilk coming during the Olympics - there is a clear campaign here.

    My final comment would be that as a fan of the Olympics and all it upholds, are we going to see a marring of the ideals both before and during the games, and are we going to see an as till now well organised games turned into chaos?

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • STRATEGICUS

    I was just thinking laterally and a thought struck me.
    Will the Argentinians ever wake up out of this Peronist trance they have been in for the last 70 years and realise how fortunate they are that it is the British who control the Falklands and not some other European/North American/Asian power.
    The chinese,Russians,Germans ,French and especially the Americans would have become totally pissed off with the Argies by now and the Argentine state would have been invaded and divided up so that it was a quarter the size of Uruguay with about half the population of that country.
    It would be President Mujica shoving Argentina round and not the other way round as now.I notice Argentina is still stalling about the canal project.
    Just a bit of lateral thinking.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @27

    Well, at least we haven't lost wars having absolutely no reason to. Imagine having overwhelming logistical and budgetary supremacy and still LOSING wards (Vietnam, Afghanistan).

    Seriously, that's like going into a mano-a-mano you having an automatic rifle and the other guy a noose, and YOU are the one that dies. hahahahaha

    And get ready cause it's going to happen all the time. Now that your army is nothing but a Rent-from-China unit (without borrowing from China your military is history), I don't think the Chinese will keep lending you so easily for the next war you invent.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mendoc

    CNN are airing the ad in a minute for all those who want to see it. 16:50 argentine time.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    23 Xect
    You said it better than I did.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @24 -Tobias. I would still like to know why you believe Argentina should have Soveignty of the Falklands when you have never owned them.

    The Islands were 1st claimed by the British. Then over the next few years there were disagreements between France, Spain and Britain regarding the islands. But in 1776(ish), Spain ceded their claims to the Islands to Britain.

    In 1829 a group of colonists of various nationalities, got permission from the British to set up a colony on the Falklands. Permission was duly given. In 1832, the United Provences set an illegal penal colony, and Britain objected to this blatant disregard of British Sovereignty. The colonists informed British authorities of this violation of sovereign British territory.

    The UP troops mutinied, killing their own commander, and the mutineers were taken prisoner by the colonists. When a British ship arrived in 1833 they took the guilty parties and handed them to UP authorities for punishment. The penal colony was dismantled and removed, leaving behind the colonists to get on with their lives.

    They've been there ever since. Argentina did not exist as a country at that point, so why do the descendants of colonists think they have the rights to a group of islands their ancestors never set foot upon?

    And if you want to talk ancestral rights thenArgentina should either return to Spanish control (those early colonists were Spanish you know) or you could give the land back to the decsendants of the people your ancestors stole it from.

    May 04th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    I don't believe the Falkland are argie.

    Next question.

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We started with sticks and stones.

    And we will finnish with sticks and stones.

    everything else is purley
    hardent dust, waiting to fall .

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @31 BethnalGreen
    If the Argentines do it during the Olympics they will be breaking the Olympic Charter. It is the absolute remit of the Argentine IOC member to stamp on this behavoir and to promote London/Britain and the games. I think the IOC should make immediate representations to the Argentine government. It has to stop.
    Good luck with posting!

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @39 Musky
    Agree with you. When I turn the TV on in August, I want to see the best Athletes going all out to compete. Some of the greatest moments in the Olympics have not been the winners, It has been the athletes doing their best. The IOC should stamp this out now, make it clear. Politics will not be tolerated in sport. Then it is up to the IOC how they want to run this and future Olympics.

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AndyMac

    One step forwards, I also like the fact that the government of Argentina said they didn't sanction it but that CFK did, do they not support her...?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17963577

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BethnalGreen

    @39 Musky
    Thank you for replying. The first post is the hardest so I wsa EXTREMELY polite - I'm not like that all the time lol. The Olympic situation does bother me though. Why haven't the IOC responded to this for example?

    At the very least this 'olympic athlete' should get a visit at border/customs frrom a Bert - the burly guy with the enormous hands and the big finger glove! At best the IOC puts these people in their place and tells them they can't compete unless the abide by the rules....

    Having wrongly informed the border at the Falklands about his intent should be enough though for this guy alone to be banned from entering the UK. Problem solved, As for the rest of them, we should not ban the whole lot of Argentine athletes as it would only cause more trouble for us. We have to take the moral highground no matter how difficult it is! They will dig their own grave eventually over this - it is already clear on that with their c urrent actions...

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Argentina should not only be warned, but told that if they try to ruin the Olympic spirit, then they will be dismissed and sent home in disgrace,

    Its to late after the event, the damage will have been done, and the dire effects created .
    It is a sporting event, not a political football.

    Just a jumping thought .

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Protest Argentina offensive ad campaign insulting our forces and war dead, make sure Argentina is banned from the Olympics or stopped from making any more political capital out the games and causing more hurt to Falklands vetrans and their families. Sport is not about politics ban Argentina from the Olympics now - join the campiagn

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-must-kick-argentina-out-of-the-2012-olympics-over-the-falklands/379501375425310

    International Olympic Committee, Château de Vidy
    Case postale 356
    1001 Lausanne
    Switzerland

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @41

    an interesting question. Is she now showing her true personal hand in this and also the fact that the country is no longer a democracy?

    Looks like she can do what she likes with no comeback. looks like the first steps towards officially designating Argentina as a dictatorship.

    May 04th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    LONDON (AP) — The IOC criticized an Argentine TV ad Friday that links the London Olympics to Argentina's dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands, calling it a blatant attempt to use the games for political purposes.

    smacked bums coming up for naughty argies
    http://news.yahoo.com/ioc-expresses-concern-over-argentine-ad-185049109.html

    The International Olympic Committee sent a letter to Argentina's national Olympic committee denouncing the ad, which reasserts Argentina's claim to the islands.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #1-3 Your junta is in jail, your Menem will soon join them, your Pinochet is dead, history has moved on and you should really get with the programme, because most importantly of all, your neoliberalism, which rewarded not “hard work” but banking and hedge funds, has spectacularly failed

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Hi, BK

    Your queen really f..cked up this time or do you disagree?

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    This is now a personal issue for the RG president. It looks as though its her against the UK rather than the RG people or govt. She's lost the plot.

    looks like the rebuff at the south american summit has all but topped her, silly cow.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Seriously though, does anyone agree with me? This advert was the best thing Argentina ever did for the Falklsnd Islands? It shows the rest of the world just exactly what they are like. I feel like reaching for my cheque book and sending Y&R a donation. Priceless! spectacular own goal. Predict this advert will disappear up KFC's own backside. Just gets better and better!

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @50

    It now begs the question of whether there is a such a thing as the Rg Govt or whether she is totally in control and can do what she wants. the Argentine sports ministry has referred the IOC to the Rg govt, the foreign ministry, usually great at dribbling off at the mouth refuses to comment and the message must now be sinking in - this fucking woman is out of control.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @50
    Couldnt agree more,their spite and nasty nature comes back to bite them in the arse :-)))))

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jayD

    47 Argentine_Kirchnerist

    Your a fucking hate mongering troll and an imbecile. It's your junta that should be in prison but most of them lived out their retirements in comfortable homes built of the backs of stupid people like you who were flooding the streets with flags and jumping up and down like the poorly led sheep you are.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • row82

    Protest Argentina offensive ad campaign insulting our forces and war dead, make sure Argentina is banned from the Olympics and stopped from imflaming old wounds and hurt to our war vetrans and their families. Sport is not about politics Argentina MUST now be BANNED from the Olympics - join the campiagn -

    www.facebook.com/pages/We-must-kick-argentina-out-of-the-2012-olympics-over-the-falklands/379501375425310

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    It's the old saying. “Give them enough rope and they will hang themselfs.” This is a mega, mega f..ck up. Though you will not find many RG posters agreeing with that.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    I've e-mailed BSkyB twice now.

    they are due to interview the Rg Ambassador to the Uk on sunday regarding the Falklands and we are trying to make this go viral and be known to Sky News that if they allow the Argentines a propaganda coup against the Uk in our own country then there will be repercussions.

    e-mail addresses for sky can be found on their website.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “some diplomatic setbacks”, says Hague

    I say, some elections setbacks you had today Mr Hague :-)))

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @56 TC
    From what I've seen of the interviewers, she is in for a rough ride.
    .

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    52 stick up your junta

    Do you know the Joker Federico Mirre?? He was the Argentine Ambassador in 2006 and this is what he had to say.......

    Things have changed in Argentina. In 1983, one year after the Falkands situation, we had a rebirth of democracy, and although we've had economic problems, we're progressing towardsa more open and democratic society with less authoritarian ingredients. People know what they want now, and would not tolerate any return to the old ways.

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear....... looks like someone took his eye off the ball because the “old ways” are back with a vengance!!!!

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @57

    i say shut your fat mouth you RG wanker.

    disrespecting British War Graves is frankly a step way too far and you will now be made to pay for that desecration.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Jeremy Clarkson
    Or
    Nigel Farage
    Should interview her,
    .

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    What grave salamin? exercising around a victory monument fool.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @62

    fuckoff you stupid cunt. the bloke was treading all over the base of the war memorial. you are a set of disrespectful cunts and there will be a cost to argentina for fucking about with british War dead.

    i have no fucking doubt whatsoever ever that once the British Armed Forces find out about this they will be fucking seething.

    they arent the most balanced of people at the best of times where Uk interests are threatened and this will frankly tip them over the edge.

    they will pray to god that you step over that line and invade.

    God help you RG's if you do.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @62

    I know its hard,but just think for a moment,how would you Argies react,I mean look how your lot went ape shit over the fact William was going to the Falklands as a Air sea Rescue pilot,now try thinking a little bit more I promise it wont hurt,how would you like Brits exercising around a Memorial in BA to be filmed for a ad to make your country look bad

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Enjoy :-)))
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lSlyQp9NAoM

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @19 And the result of the Luso-Brazilian invasion (1816-1820) was what? How about the Uruguayan Civil War (1839-1852)? And of course the Falklands War (1982). How do you count the War of Brazil (1825-1828)? Where did you learn to count?

    @31 If you search back through the archives, you should be able to find the article setting out how the argies have a “plan” to put a logo on the uniforms of their Olympic “team” together with the words “Malvinas Argentinas”. This would be a clear breach of the Olympic Charter. Fortunately, there is also an Olympic bye-law that clearly sets out the penalties. Disqualification and removal of accreditation. That will take care of athletes and “team” officials. And I'm glad to report that I already reported their “plan”. The argie “team” would be well advised to buy return tickets if they are planning to travel to the Olympics. Then they can get straight back on the plane.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @65

    no one wants to watch your fucking stupid videos you fucking La Campora troll. go eat your food parcel or lick Fat Max's hoop.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    '65
    No please you enjoy :-)))))
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    British Cemetery in Buenos Aires

    These are graves and properly mantained.

    http://www.maritimequest.com/misc_pages/monuments_memorials/british_cemetery_page_1.htm

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @69

    Not for long would be my guess.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (65) Marcos Alejandro

    323.397 wiews in less than 24 hours !!!
    That's totally viral, man.
    The guys that made this video have secured their career in advertising..

    www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lSlyQp9NAoM

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @71

    I think they have probably gained a P45.

    the Rg's will now be regarded as sub human and it will be interesting too see the fallout for the company that made the video.

    This will not be forgotten by the UK.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Jewish gravestones vandalized at Argentina cemetery
    Eight of the graves were the resting places of victims of the 1994 terrorist attack on the Argentine Israelite Mutual Association Jewish Center in Buenos Aires that killed 85 people.
    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/news/jewish-gravestones-vandalized-at-argentina-cemetery-1.7911

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #28 I agree. I must say thought that without defense, my country would have been hurt badly by our neighbors for disputes dating back to the 19th century.

    #55 I think you are right. This is backfiring on KFC.

    #69 I think we all need to be respectful of those who have died in war. THe hotheaded proposals to ban Argentines from visiting their war dead was unfortunate. (It's also unfortunate that the recent filming used a WWI Falklands War memorial.)

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @66

    What does Argentina have to do with a Uruguayan Civil war? The war with Brazil was a defeat for Brazil, any source will tell you that much. They lost Uruguay and were handed defeats by invading forces in southern Brazil.

    “Although far superior to Argentine forces on paper, the Brazilian troops were repeatedly defeated. Plagued by poor leadership, inadequate supplies, corruption, disease, and a high desertion rate, the Brazilian army never gained an advantage over their adversaries.” - Daniel Stowell

    And at the time, Brazil had no fought a single war while Argentina was bankrupt from 20 years of fighting wars, sending armies to other countries, and spending money helping other colonial revolts in Spanish America. Plus the fact it was Brazil holding the territories (an offensive war is far more difficult than a defensive one), and were a country 10 times bigger in population at the time.

    The add is trully disgusting, I'm not afraid to say it. The British Foreign Office response came down to near that same level with its shameless lies.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    71 Think Yep! Did you notice that the Globe Tavern's sign says “open”
    Where are the Brits? Cuddling with their sheeps?
    I saw the picture in this site:
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/05/04/argentine-olympic-ad-angers-british/

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @76

    no the Brits were in bed instea dof sneaking around the island shotting videos and desecrating war memorials. typical of you Rg fuckers to sneak around when no one was watching, rather than take the fucking shoeing you would have got had you tried to do it in broad daylight.

    thats you Rg's to a T - sneaky fuckers.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    amazing how they insult from afar,

    brave words from cowards,
    come on be a man, go to the islands and repeat it .

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @78

    The Rg's are fucking mouthy cunts. the shoeing they got in 1982 will be fuckall compared to the shoeing they will get this time. The nest time they invade may well be the last because there is no doubt that this time cruise missiles will be sent onto the Rg mainland.

    they will fucking suffer like they have never suffered.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    76 Marcos Alejandro

    Your comments are the equivalent of sh¡tting on the “Celeste y Blanco”.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @76 MA
    As a Welshman, well versed in the matters of amour! I really think you should come out and confess, you are indeed a sheep shagger. Either that or your doing an awful lot of masturbating over the Sheep Shearers Almanac. You do know it will make your hands shake, you will dribble at the mouth and go blind. Now, switch off your torch, put the almanac under your bed and go to sleep, there's a good little RG.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @80

    Are you Argentine Simon?

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    80 Simon68 Whatever Brit.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    82 tobias (#)
    May 04th, 2012 - 11:41 pm

    Yes, and disgusted by my horrendous president.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @82
    So what if he is?

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @84

    What are the colors of our flag Simon?

    “Bandera... ______________”

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    86 tobias (#)

    See @80

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #84 Argentina is not a lost cause as long as there is still a few sane citizens like yourself that will pick up the “Celeste y Blanco” banner after the country AGAIN collapses as it has so many times in its sad past.

    To quote myself earlier, Argentina has one of the most productive and resource wealthy lands in the world. A well educated homogenous society that could accomplish anything... ...if only they would work harder and expect less from their government.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @86
    White cross on a white background. Be fair you asked for that!!!!!!!

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    err
    light blue at the top
    white next,
    then light blue at the bottom.
    with a telly tubbie in the middle in the sun.
    easy simple,
    and your point to simon is what .

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @90 Briton
    Good question.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @89

    The last time that flag you describe flew over Argentina's mainland it was in 1807, as some army that had tried to take over Buenos Aires (said to be he world's most formidable army of that era, challenged by no other nation), was supplicating the local militia made by average untrained citizens to please sit down and negotiate a truce, led by a guy name Whitelocke. They kept waving it for 24 hours until they signed the only unconditional surrender the invading nation signed that CENTURY. They gained no territory, no treaties, no commerce, no nothing.

    Haven't seen that flag since.

    @87

    What did you write? I can't read it.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    76 Marcos Alejandro

    You are a piece of shit go back to your drug supply and burn some flags with the fat momas from la campora you fucking cunt.

    You fat piece of lard. Get off your fucking couch and come and invade. We laugh at you cunts, 400 miles away, just 3000 people against 40 million and you still can not manage it.

    Cowards, hate mongers, flag burners, drug adicts and fat people living off land taken from the native American's who live in poverty and in prison cells their entire culture destroyed.

    You talk about taking land back. Why don't you fuckers give Formosa Province back to Paraguay? Why don't you give Martin Garcia Island back to Uraguay? Why don't you surrender your claim on Chilean Andes Ice Shelf? Picton Island? The Jason Islands?

    When did your claim on South Georgia commence? 1982!

    When did your claim on the South Sandwich Islands commence? 1982!

    Who was alreay claiming soverignty of the Falkland Isalnds when you claim to have occupied them? Britain!

    Who has had a continous population in the Falkland Isalnds since 1833? Britain!

    Are we getting somewhere? Fancy talking about this man to man Marcos you fucking freak? Come to the UK we will sort out a hall and have a boxing match or some kick boxing I don't mind I do both please come I want to beat the shit out of you.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ahab

    Hello all, this is my first comment in Mercopress but I have been following this site for several months now.

    I find it confusing what benefit the Argentine government expect to get from their actions.

    They ask for negotiations but write into their constitution that full sovereignty of the Falklands is un-negotiable.

    They say the Olympics will not be used for politics and then create this insulting video.

    They ask for the three flights a week to be run by Argentina for the good of the islanders (after saying one flight is impractical from another country) but the day after this meeting the ambassador ambushes Hague at a conference, ruining any goodwill that may have resulted from the meeting.

    They say they will respect the islanders but pretend they don't exist and abuse their goodwill in letting Argentine veterans visit the Falklands to sneak a camera crew around at dawn filming without the courtesy of informing the local government.

    I wish only the best for the Argentine people but can't they see the damage being caused by the government? If they want the Falklands and to stop accusations they are using the islands as a distraction, go to the international court to get this sorted out once and for all.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @92 Tobias
    Beg to differ. The last time that flag flew was in 1982 over the Falkland Islands, spin it how yo like! you surrendered. Your 14000+ defeated troops were placed in British ships and returned to a neutral countrty. Your military equipment was seized, what was usable, was used. The rest was sent to military ranges and used for target practice. 1807 was not the last time it was used, 1982 was the last time it was used. So live with it and move on!!!!!

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • anti-fascist2

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/uk-foreign-minister-says-argentinas-olympic-ad-in-falkland-islands-is-a-stunt/2012/05/04/gIQAvnzl0T_story.html

    LONDON — The IOC criticized an Argentine TV ad Friday that links the London Olympics to Argentina’s dispute with Britain over the Falkland Islands, calling it a blatant attempt to use the games for political purposes.

    The International Olympic Committee sent a letter to Argentina’s national Olympic committee denouncing the ad, which reasserts Argentina’s claim to the islands.

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I've said it before and I'll say it agaim. Trying to talk with an RG, is like trying to push a 10mm turd down an 8mm pipe!

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    “International Olympic Committee sent a letter to Argentina’s national Olympic committee”
    This was faster than I thought. This “wide-ranging diplomatic offensive” has backfired.

    May 05th, 2012 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • juapell

    Give my country what it wants. The Falklands? No, no that.
    The government have cut all the imports, expropiated the biggest company in the country, and is cuting in every front the ties with every country in the world with the exception of a few “selected” ones.
    Take all your investments out of Argentina, Stop buying anything produced in Argentina. Dont pay attention and do not give any more press to this government. Ban Argentina of the olimpic games.
    Its the only way this regime will dry out of money for handouts and their own pockets and that 54% that voted it will have to start working for a living.

    May 05th, 2012 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (86) tobias

    You asked:
    What are the colors of our flag Simon?
    “Bandera... ______________”

    I say:
    Good trick question!
    Nobody has answered it right....
    Not even Simon68
    He may not be Argentinean after all....

    Ps:
    A clue to English Turnips......
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xnB57UYBkQ

    May 05th, 2012 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Who cares, Think?
    Stupid-looking flag anyway.

    May 05th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Marcos Alejandro : Some years ago an Irish rugby international , Willie Anderson , was jailed for three months in Argentina for simply stealing a flag off a government building , an offence committed not out of malice but youthfull drunkenness , and far more trivial offence than disrespecting a war memorial .
    Mind you , you Camporistas have no respect for your own institutions anymore anyway. Your public buildings and your entire capital are covered in posters and graffitti and congress looks like washing day at Villa 31 , what with all the poitical banners hanging from the balconies . You have turned a civilized country into one that resembles Burkina Faso on a wet saturday.
    A comment in La Nacion about the ad says it all : If the athlete really had been training on Argentine soil , he would slipped in dogshit , tripped in holes in the pavement and been robbed two or three times , and he would have been lucky to get home alive .

    May 05th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (101) Isolde

    And a very good morning to you too……...... my sweet blackberry bush…

    Well, evidently you care….
    But don’t worry…
    We guys know all about women saying one thing, meaning another…
    I can see that Tobias “very simple but very difficult question” teases your feminine curiosity…
    Chuckle chuckle©

    PS:
    Tobias…… If you don’t mind, I would like to use your simple question in the future to sort out some Anglo Turnips….

    ”What are the colors of our flag Mr. Xxxxx ?
    “Bandera... ______________”

    Genial!

    May 05th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    103 - Why are you posting a reply to Toby he is sitting next to you in Troll HQ. It laughable that you pretend to be independent and most prob multiple personalities / user names. Bet you had the same lunch today?? was it Burger & Chips ....mmm i love it when Maximo lets us have that mmmmmmmmmm. The Kircher youth are pleased with your work Herr Think

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @104 Maximo lets them eat anything that's not his cream-buns. People who eat his cream buns are summarily executed. Anyone discussing the stench of burger grease around maximo is burned and your finger is cut off if you comment about the profuse sweating.

    That's just how life is in North korea, sorry, Argentina.

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The act can only be seen by the free World as a pethetic stunt that has backfired on the Argentinians.

    Incredibly stupid own goal.

    Inept way to make friends and influence the junta free World.

    May 05th, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    did anyone see this interveiw between SKY TV and this argie,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    argie flag next .

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    If hague and the general assembly from the islands need to make such a fuss for a simple advert, it's because maybe for the first time in years, it's starting to be more difficult for them to continue getting a way with this, and avoid to discuss about the sovereignty, which is the main problem. Nobody disrespected anyone with that advert, it was a great homage to the people who lost their lives in that shameful war. If the u. k decides to make a homage to the british veterans who died in 1982, and films an advert in the islands, saying that they are british, we can't complain about that, because it has right to honour their people, in a territory which considers as british. Like them or not, we have right to honour our people in a territorry which has always been claimed for us, in fact it's not the first video that the government does about malvinas, in order to honour the veterans, in 2010 it made an exelent advert showing imagens from the islands, anyway it hadn't been filmed in te malvinas, it was a compilation of imagens, but it was very emotiv, i have it in my cel phone.
    On the other hand, if hague deffends the right to self determination so strongly, he should have tell the media that the u. n has never applied that right for the this dispute, like it did for others colonial situations, beside it neather expressed that the u. k should return the islands to arg., nor expressed that the sovereignty must be discussed if the islanders wish it only. All the resolutions have called the two parts of the conflict to resume the negotiations and find a peaceful solution only, however that's what the u. k and the islanders reject sistematicly, but i dont think he told that to the press.

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @101

    Ah, lsolde showing her true colors.

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @108 No one is discussing sovereignty of anything. You Argtards lampooned the desecration of a war memorial. In 2008 the UN said self-determination applied to everyone, regardless of Argtardia's attempts to get them not to.

    In 1982 you turned peaceful sovereignty discussions into a war, which you lost. Uti possidetis says the islands are not yours.

    Get over it, because argtards gonna tard.

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #48 I do disagree

    #59 Rubbish, my Queen is continuing to change her country further and further from the old ways of the (right wing neoliberal) junta

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @111 No one can be bothered to look back to 48 and 59 to read them. Your comment is as meaningless is ed miliband's political ideology.

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    @108

    no soddy offy

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Talking about ignoring UN resolutions, do you guys remember those comparatively recent binding Security Council ones that Argtardia ignored in 1982. Those were my personal favourites.

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    hague; You are finished,corrupt minister!
    http://williamhaguemp.blogspot.ca/
    William Hague Massive Offshore HSBC Tax Evasion Fraud Files*Link Carroll Trust Scandal Case
    http://williamhaguemp.blogspot.ca/
    French revolution loomimg.The guillotine for these world crooks!
    bushes,rostchild,etc....

    May 06th, 2012 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    Hows about the Team GB make their own Video too. Picture the scene............The GB synchronised Swimming team all water dancing around the wreck of the General Belgrano..........At the end in big bold letters the motto...............Team GB.............To learn to swim like a fish..............one needs to know what fish eat!!!!!!!!!!

    May 06th, 2012 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    & 115

    The English can not make a “ revolution ” like as French !

    Becouse that they don't have self-contained will...they can't animadvert
    their corrupt Monarchy...they can't speak out of their memorize...they don't have distinguished opinions...so on ...

    May 06th, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @117 Max,
    Que?
    @111B_K,
    Why don't you include the poster's name when you're answering a post.
    As GreekY, says, no-one is going to bother scrolling back unless they see their name.
    @109 tobias,
    l've never concealed what l think of malvinistas.
    After a while of hearing the endless insults & childishness of the Argentines, malvinista & Argentine become interchangable.
    l despise you(not you personaly) for your lies, actions & deeds.
    @108Axel,
    Not you again!
    What part of “THERE WILL BE NO DISCUSSIONS ON SOVEREIGNTY” don't you understand?
    @103 Think,
    And a jolly good morn to you too, Thinkus.
    Hope you're enjoying your coffee as much as l am enjoying mine.
    l have only three vices & coffee is definitely one of them!

    May 06th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @117 I think you mean that we have a stable and progressive political environment unlike your hell-hole of a country. A considerable number of the countries within the anglosphere have the queen as their head of state.

    Whereas in the poorosphere you all speak spanish, you're ruled by corrupt evil kakistrocrats and you're lives are dingy pathetic brainwashed nonsense.

    Get over it, we did.

    May 06th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    & 119

    Start up to animadvert the corruption of Monarchy ...i'll back you with the proofs...

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @120 Max,
    The Monarchy have no need to be corrupt.
    They have their own personal fortunes earned through investments that pay big dividends.
    As they say “money makes money” & “the first million dollars is the hardest to make”.
    What proofs?????

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @121 By corrupt, i think he means capitalist. Therefore telling him that they earned money through investing, is just proving his point.

    Bottom rung La Campora fagoots like max always fail to see their leaders getting richer and richer whilst claiming socialist solidarity. It's typical.

    Just pat Max on the head and tell him to run along.

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    The Botox Queen is richer than most in RG land. How did she make her fortune???

    May 06th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    & 122

    don't twist on........

    start up to animadvert the corruption of Monarchy,..i'll back you with the proofs..!..( can you do it ?....i don't guess !)

    May 06th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    @122

    Dear Max, sorry to have to tell you but Argie Land is in 100th place in the Worldwide Corruption Index and is on a par with Benin, Burkina Faso and Madagascar. Ouch!

    May 06th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    GREEK YOGHURT.
    Unfortunatelly your answer was as obvious as usuall. If you love to invoke the rejection of the militar junta to resolution 502 of 1982, let me remind you AGAIN that despite those criminal events, the u. n continued calling the two parts of the conflict to resume the negotiations and find a peaceful solution. On the other hand, if self determination is applicable for absolutly everyone in the world, then i hope that next u. n resolution invokes that right for this dispute, and doens't consider the malvinas-falkland cause like a particular colonial situation, beside, your thought doesn't coincide with what was expressed by lawmaker norma edwards before the decolonization committee in 2010, where she complained about the way that the committee considers this cause, and didn't say a word about that resolution of 2008.
    Respecting the advert, what the guy is doing is a little of gym in the memorial only, what is wrong with that?, what kind of lampoon is that?, beside he didn't make any provocation eather, he didn't disrespected anybody with that action. If a group of english players run around the argentine cemetery from darwin, they woudn't be disrespecting the veterans who are buried there. Finally, i can tell you only that you can insult as much as you like, that just shows the mediocrity of your tought, and the law level of debate that you have too.

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Axel,
    You may think that its not disrespect, but we think that it is.
    And thats all that counts, as its OUR land & OUR War Memorial.
    A lot of countries agree with us on this.
    Actually l'm glad that Argentina made this stupid mistake as it shows the world the type of people that we're dealing with.
    Axel, it was a blooper on Argentina's part & no, we still will NOT talk to you about sovereignty.
    502 502 502 502 502 502 502 etc etc etc, lt won't go away, Axel.

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    he no listen, he know understand,

    you cannot talk, because you very own constitution prevents any talking,
    read it,

    May 06th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    lordy lord, axhole really doesn't get it, does he. He doesn't know the UN denied Argtardia's wish to have self-determination below national integrity. He thinks we care about juntas and by saying 'junta' it suddenly means the Argtards magically somehow didn't flagrantly ignore the binding UN SC resolutions, even when Argtardia was full of people in the street supporting the war. He doesn't even remember that Nestor walked out on negotiations, even when he's been told 100's of times.

    He's just another vanilla retard, but what does one expect from one of Maximo's henchmen.

    May 06th, 2012 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    ISOLDE. BRITON. GREEK YOGHURT.
    Unfortunatelly when hate blinds people's minds, they finish making mediocre and ignorant analysis like what you do all the time.
    Firstly, i have never denied that maybe the right to self determination is applicable for the population from the islands. But the point is that the u. n has never applied that principle for this dispute, like it did for others colonial situations, all the resolutions just call the two parts to resume the negotiations and find a fair solution, no more, and that's what you reject sistematicly. On the other hand, you dont realise about the doble standart that you use all the time when you reffer about our constitution. You love arguing that the only one outcome for us, is the transference of sovereignty to us, but at the same time, after 1982 you have always said that you can dicuss about many issues with arg., but not sovereignty, isn't it a precondition too?. I already explained in planty of oportunitis what is expressed in our const., but beyond what it says about our claim, if the u. n has never asked the u. k to return the islands to arg., they won't never be under argentine sovereignty only, althogh both countries resume the negotiations, because the transference of sovereignty to arg. is not what the u. n signalizes.
    Beside i have never denied that the junta rejected resolution 502, what you do, is to argue pathetic excuses, just to continue rejecting theresolutions.
    Respecting the support that our peopel gave to the war, which is argued by you all the time, i already explained too one millons about the situation of the freedom of press in arg. in 1982, and the terrible manipulation that all the press made during the whole dictatorship, if you preffer to continue insisting with the same ignorant comments about it, it's just one more show of the mediocrity of your thought. Finally, what nestor kirchner did, was to try to discuss about sovereignty again, which is the main problem.

    May 07th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    To be fair to Axlrose anything wrong or breaches of international law or resolutions were the JUNTA's fault. The naughty JUNTA didnt have the support of the population as we all know well, the thousands of gloating cheering RG's in BA after the invasion were all actors. And the rioting when the lost the war where not a humiliated population.

    Now please leave my troll friend alone, he didnt get a food parcel this morning and hes hungry. Who pays the electricity bill and internet bill is that on maximos account.

    May 07th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @130 Axel, seriously, do you not understand that your country started a popular war, and then you lost it. You never apologised, you never paid any reparations, you didn't even come to terms with the fact you lost, by continuing to mention now defunct UN resolutions from before you made negotiations military.

    Argentina made the negotiations military, Argentina lost the military negotiations, Argentina has to deal with the consequences of it's actions. The world has changed, and the new rules are as a result of Argentina's actions.

    Negotiations on sovereignty will not happen because we changed our relationship with our BOT, it's now a mature relationship based on shared values. It's similar to our relationship with Australia. So, it's no longer appropriate for the UK to involve itself in negotiations as we did before the Argentinian caused military action and no one has any appetite for it. Nestor was a fool to not know this, KFC is a fool to not be aware of this.

    If Argentinians cannot cope with the consequences of their actions, it is not the fault of the British. If you want to make it military again, then you should be aware of the consequences.

    End of story.

    May 07th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    agreed

    May 07th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @130Axel,
    Axel, you can blither all that you want,
    BUT:-
    1)We are NOT going to talk to you.
    2)There will be “NO NEGOTIATIONS” on Sovereignty with anyone.
    3)We will NOT give you our land.
    4)Argentina has NO “RIGHTS” here, none at all.
    Do you understand now?

    May 08th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    GREEK YOGHURT. BRITON. ISOLDE.
    This is evident that you undertsand just what you want, as usuall, anyway i coincid with a few points that you expressed in your comment. I have always thought that arg. should apologize the islanders for the war of 1982, in the same way that the u. k should apologize us for having invaded our country 4 times, along these 200 years, and for having deprived arg. from the islands in 1833. On the oethr hand, when you insist with that idiot argument about a popular war, you ignore sistematicly what i explained one million times here, about the way that the information was distorted by most media, which was under the controll of the junta, beside, you ignore too about the huge march that happened that day, which lemma was, malvinas si proceso no (yes to malvinas, no to the process).
    On the other hand, you can use the argument of the consecuences of the war as much as you like, it won't impide that arg. can keep on claiming for the islands with out militarising the country, like the u. k does with the islands, when it parrots about the destructors that it sends to the archipelago in order to protect their interests. Anyway i dont expect that you make a critic to your side, ignorant people like you, just play the victime and dont recognize that they are not acting correctly eather. I just can advice you not to complain if we have more serious problems in the future, accept it or not, your intransigence has a huge responsability in this situation too, anyway, it's absolutly expectable that you cotinue blaming argentina only.

    May 08th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    135 axel arg
    a fool in paradise
    /////////////////
    you think the uk should say sorry, no you demand the British should say sorry for 200 years of sometimes rarely bad things,
    Ok
    We demand Germany say sorry
    We demand France says sorry for a thousand years of bloody mindedness .
    We demand Rome says sorry for invading us 2,000 years ago,
    We demand The Neanderthal man says sorry for kidnapping us from Africa and brining us here ,
    who came from inhabited Europe and parts of western Asia from about 230,000 to 29,000 years ago we demand you say sorry for that argie who pushed us out of the bloody tree5000,,000 years ago,
    And so on and so on,,,,
    ....................................
    The British Falklands do not belong to you full bloody stop.
    and if you insists on going back and brining up the past, then we all demand you bloody well give back all the bloody land you stole hundreds of years ago from the native inhabitants, and bloody well go back to Europe from when’s you once came,
    and on the way back, we demand you say sorry to mr Jones for treading on his bloody roses in 1857, June 17th, at 330pm.
    Now Soddy offy .

    May 08th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Stop it briton, you're making me laugh.
    Thats very serious, treading on Mr Jones's roses.
    Why, l never. Bloody malvinistas.
    Mr Jones should give the bounders a damn good thrashing.
    @135Axel,
    Threats again, Axel?
    Of course we blame only Argentina.
    Argentina is not acting correctly & is causing all the trouble.
    No one else, lad. Just that failed rogue state of Argentina.
    Argentina=troublemakerland.

    May 09th, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    BRITON.
    Ignorant as usuall, it seems that you love making very superficial analysis for serious issues. If you consider that we should apologize the natives for having stolen them their lands. Let me tell you that the rights of the indigenous populations are included in article 17 of chapter four, which is related to the duties of the congress. That article orders as a duty of the congress, to signalize the pre existence of the indigenous populations, the restitution and the protection of their lands etc. It was included in the reform of 1994, after more than 110 years of the occupation of patagonia, in that moment the argentine state started to occupy that huge territory, but killed planty of native people, and stole many of their lands. The passage of time doesn't eliminate the facts, anyway, i respect if you think that saying sorry is irrelevant because those events happened many years ago, fortunatelly i think diferent than you, i have always thought that arg. brasil and uruguay should apologize the paraguayans for the shameful war of the tripple alliance, which decimated the paraguayan population. We didn't steal them formosa, but we won it with a criminal unfair and cobard war, that's why we should apologize for it. The paraguayans have never claimed for those lands after they lost that war, thats why the ignorant comparioss that some of you do is irrlevant, but in case that they start to claim for that teritory, and if the the dispute is presented before the u. n, then like us or not, we will have to find a peaceful and negotiated solution, and you should do the same with the malvinas, anyway i know you won't do it. Maybe some day you stop making those idiot comments that you do all the time, mixing situations which are bery diferent, perhaps someday you decide to be serious.

    May 09th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    but but
    axel they are not silly comments,
    why the contary at the very least,
    but hey, were british, and we fully understand that it is not your fault that you think this way, we fully understand what indocrination and brain washing can do to people, so relax,

    we understand its not your fault,
    you dont really want the islands, you just think that you do,

    but let the clever little island people [called the british]
    help you in your hour on need, with good advise for you to take back to CFK at your next meeting,
    you and her and almost all argies alive today, will go to your graves in the hope you get them back on day,[happy]
    but we know different, just like the rest of historys past, they all died thinking they would see 16 vergins in the bedroom, only to turn to dust in the ground or disintergrate in the crematorium.

    in the meentime enjoy the awe of watching the british falklands remain british lol.

    May 09th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    BRITON.
    You are right, some people are adoctrinated and brain washed, that's why i decided to investigate, instead of parroting idiot comments.

    May 12th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    And what did you find, Dear Axel?
    That the lslands belong to the people who live on them & NOBODY ELSE?
    Just like:-
    Japan belongs to the Japanese & not the Argentines.
    France belongs to the French & not the Argentines.
    Mexico belongs to the Mexicans & not the Argentines.
    & surprise, surprise,
    The Falklands belong to the Falklanders & most certainly not the Argentines.
    Glad to be of help, Axel.

    May 13th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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