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Y&R holding condemns Falklands-Olympics spot and asks Argentine government to ban the ad

Friday, May 4th 2012 - 21:31 UTC
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WPP international advertising holding on Friday regretted a controversial TV spot showing an Argentine athlete training for the London Olympic Games in Port Stanley, Falkland Islands. Read full article

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  • row82

    Protest Argentina offensive ad campaign insulting our forces and war dead, make sure Argentina is banned from the Olympics and stopped from imflaming old wounds and hurt to our war vetrans and their families. Sport is not about politics Argentina MUST now be BANNED from the Olympics - join the campiagn -

    www.facebook.com/pages/We-must-kick-argentina-out-of-the-2012-olympics-over-the-falklands/379501375425310

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Interesting that the company asks for the add to be banned by the Argentine government. considering they knew nothing about it and its a one woman crusade against the Falklands that produces quite a predicament for the RG govt and raises the question of just exactly who is running this fucked in the head country.

    the woman has clearly lost it and it is the first clear sign that democracy has run its course in Argentina and that there is a dictatorship in Town - el Presidente.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    Damage limitation excercise, the markets had knocked $500m of the company value today, it went back up $100m after the statement

    The Argentines should perhaps take note that when you make a fool of yourself the best option is not to stamp your feet and scream louder.

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    3 Related to the Mexican singer by any chance?

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    .r Sorrel
    You can start by writting a sincere letter of apology. Not to the UK govt, but to the people of the Falkland Islands. Then you can get a grip on the people you employ!

    May 04th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    Right then Argies, you want to play dirty do you?

    Who's for filming a 'piss and spit on the Argie grave' contest in the Darwin cemetary?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (3) Juan Gabriel

    Sure mate.....

    I suppose that WPP's share price fall on the 04/04, the 10/04 and the 23/04 were also caised by the Malvinas Add?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    The agency pointed out it believed “it was never the intention of the ad’s creators to desecrate a war memorial”. Yeah ok... if you believe that....

    Back pedal!! Back pedal!! quick!! find a scape goat!! deny all knowledge!!! cover your ar*e!!The ship is sinking and I think someone is looking for the life rafts!!

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Someone said on here, that he spat on the monument. Is that true? or is this story being hyped up?????

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    @3

    this is the best way for the UK to react - hit them where it hurts -in their pockets. BSkyB are interviewing the Argentine ambassador to the Uk on sunday. I have sent 3 e-mails to them indicating the financial consequences of them fucking it up ie handing the Rg's a propaganda coup.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (9) Reality Check

    Just “Check” the video.......
    “Reality” is there, clear for anybody that wants to see it.....
    If you look closely you will see that he is actually shitting on the steps....
    No hype....
    Would I lie to you?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    If you look closely you will see that he is actually shitting on the steps....
    No hype....
    Would I lie to you?

    Stanley post office shut then Think?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (9) Reality Check

    And I read somewhere that he went into the Globe and helped some of the regulars to gangbang a sheep.............
    No hype....
    Would I lie to you?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @13
    Argie sheep Think

    Argentina criminals 'evade capture by dressing up as sheep'
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/7584289/Argentina-criminals-evade-capture-by-dressing-up-as-sheep.html

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    9) Reality Check

    Have you checked reality?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Jeremy Clarkson
    Or
    Nigel Farage
    Should interview her,

    they would humiliate the one halve of the plastic pact, at least ?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A.J.Rimmer

    @15, have you?

    The entire world is outraged by your governments actions, and all you can do is make excuses on every forum, then try to put some warped spin on the ad??

    WTF, educated you claim to be, but you are far from being a decent human being.

    I for one would pay for a one on one meeting with you. I am surprised Mercopress hasn't gotten rid of you yet. But, then there is always public outcry to dispose of the unwanted.

    Ohh, my offer does stand, come and join me in Europe, for a friendly conversation, just remember the gloves, it can get cold here

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Two things certain.
    1. The IOC may privately warn the Argentine OC about publicity stunts, but they will not ban the team.
    2. Argentines are victims CFK's propaganda. Let the athletes be treated with kindness and respect as many will realize they've been hoodwinked.

    #14 Evading capture disguised as sheep: I just posted recently about Gurkhas disguised as penguins, but this beats my wildest imagination. Maybe this was the planned commando invasion trial run?

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    13 Think :-)))))))

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Think
    Why am I suprised at your half witted juvenile response to a perfectly normal question. First off it was not the steps to a pub, it was the steps to a war memorial. Not a “Victory” memorial. A mistake which I can forgive you for, has you have a severe shortage of both, especially the latter. As for your crass remark about gangbanging sheep. shit! I'm a Welshman and proud of it. you can not turn me on with sexual inuedo!

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Argentina needs to boycott the Olympics. It should always boycott the Olympics.

    Anyways, Argentines boycott the Olympics since no one watches.

    May 04th, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    utter rubbish
    the only reason you want argentina to withdraw, is so you dont have to watch them lose.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (20) Reality Check

    Well.... living not so far from the Y Wladfa Gymreig, I must admit that I got a bit randy myself when tyiping it.

    Must be something in the Welsh air.....................;-)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Anyways, Argentines boycott the Olympics since no one watches

    Beijing Olympics: Opening ceremony watched by 15 per cent of world's population

    One billion people, or 15 per cent of the world's population, watched the opening ceremony to the Beijing Olympics,

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @21 Tobias
    Well thats a shit sataement. What about all those youg Argentines that have spent years training and given up all sorts of shit to get there. They do not count I suppose. Excuse me if I f..ing disagree with and congratulate each and every one of them for getting here and wish them luck.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @22

    Why would I care about losing in sports I give fleckwitt about? I only care about football, rugby, basketball, and TC racing, and in those we do very well, always in the top 10 on the planet. No other country has ever been consistently top ten in football, basketball, rugby, tennis, hockey. NO OTHER NATION. Not Britain, not the USA, not China, not Russia, not Brazil, not anyone.

    Have fun watching Britain winning in such competitive sports worldwise such as Syncronized Air Guitar and flintstone lifting.

    @24

    Who said the Olympics weren't popular? I just said we argies don't give a fleckwitt.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    always come up with other sports,

    the games are for fun, you no like fun,
    it is a great oppertuninty for atherlets,

    sad, you no watch on TV .

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    He's jerking your chain. He'll be watching any Rg anywhere near a final.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @28

    Well, whatever. I am telling you I do not watch the Olympics. Only the basketball tourney. I don't even watch the football unless we reach the finals or play Brazil (both which happened in 2008).

    I will admit to watch opening ceremonies to see what the country puts up. Given the current state of UK-Argentina relations, that will not happen this time. I wish it were different, but that's the way it is.

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @23 Think. Please. please, do not tell me you are a Patagonian Welshman, man I I could not stand it. The thing I about about us Welsh emmigrants is this.
    The Scots went to Canada.
    The Irish went to America.
    Tehe Scots and the Irish went to Australia.
    We. the Welsh went to Patagonia.
    Would anyone like to comment on who got the best deal??????

    May 04th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    he know more abt yorkshire pud, than he lets on .

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @30

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Argentine_provinces_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

    Jugding by the per capita income of Chubut of 25.000 USD, that is not too bad at all. And they got to keep their culture and language, something that would have been completely repressed and lost in Australia, Canada and the USA were people were not permitted to keep their language until the 1960s.

    Thank you for proving my point of how people here try to humiliate argies at any chance they get. Even in sports... it shows the moral character of all of you.

    Then you dare criticize our lousy goverment.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Come on Tobias, admit it. If one of your guys or girls got in a medal position, you would watch it on telly. Shit I would, well not one of your atheletes, but you get the idea.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Well, actually being a “quiltro” mix with the above nationalities + Catalan, I can attest that some of them arrived as far as Chile as well. If could I go back in time, I'd give them brochures of a destination like Santa Barbara, California.

    Oh well, fate.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Question.
    If this was a football world cup competition, how many of our posters think, that Argentina would have made the same type of advert?

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @35

    None because we would never jeopardize our participation in World Cups of the sports we care about. Even in 1986 Argentina did no propaganda, you would think that would have been the time with the raw feeling of military defeat.

    Though Argentina even boycotted FIFA world cups in the 1938, 1940s and 1950s. We boycotted 3 world cups outright and 2 more by sending amateurs.

    That is why one of the world's greatest footballers, Di Stefano, never played for Argentina in a world cup, when Argentina had some GREAT teams to win.

    And no I woudn't watch an athlete winning gold. I would congratulate him and be happy for him, but I don't care about his sport! This is just keeping it real... I'm not trying to rain on the efforts of athletes I respect it, but it doesn't mean I'll be watching. Do you watch the UK in basketball? No, because Brits don't give a darn about that sport.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ahab

    I wonder how far the government is prepared to push this? They've already been warned about the video by the IOC but will they care or just see it as good publicity?

    If CFK is more interested in spreading their Falkands campaign than competing in the Olympics they may well continue regardless up to and including the event until the IOC has no choice but to remove then.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    What the f..ck you talking bout. I'm 6'3” I've been playing basket ball all my life, when I was a kid I had several trials to play for Wales, but there were better guys there than me and I never made the squad. Sport is sport, no matter what else we disagree with each, we should agree on this. When I was a kid, I ate, slept and shit basketball.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @37

    I keep saying it, Argies don't care about the Olympics! If the government thought we actually did care as a population, they would NEVER risk taking away sport watching from argies...

    Government never messes with sports viewership.

    It shows that not only the government gives a darn about the Olympics, but that they know that if something really happened 90% would not care since they were not planning to watch or root anyway.

    Of course it would be unfortunate for the athletes, but almost all are unknown in Argie. It's not like in most other countries (even some of our neighbors like Brazil or Chile), where Olympic stars can be famous on their own. In Argentina none is because no one cares.

    May 05th, 2012 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • anti-fascist2

    23 Think

    It's funny you should mention Y Wladfa because I have relations there and I've spent time there. They are not happy with your government and most people I've met desperatly want indpendence.

    Give Y Wladfa back to my people, the Welsh.

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Thats f..cging sad for them and it's f..cking sad for you. Back to point scoring and swapping political insults .

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @38 and 41

    Yes perhaps it is sad Argentines don't give a minimun huh about most Olympic sports. Neither to support them, nor to fund it, nor to participate in them. Argentines like team sports mainly (with tennis and paddle being exceptions), not individual sports.

    As for your basketball, all I was saying that in Britain basketball is a minor sport and you know it. At least not popular enough as Britain quite honestly sucks at the sport. I was out of real respect in the belief that the reason the UK (England, etc) were so bad at it was mainly because there was not sufficient pool of talent because not many people play the sport.

    Which makes sense, that is why most countries are bad at sport, lack of participation. Why the USA being such a big country is horrible in football, or India likewise. Yet they are great in cricket.

    That was my bigger point about many olympic sports. If Argentina doesn't win is because very few people actually play or get any financial support whatsoever. And they certainly don't do steroids like in many Olympic powers which is a well known fact.

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ahab

    @39

    I appreciate what you say regarding the lack of interest in Argentina for the event.

    Do you think CFK will continue pushing the Falklands cause using the Olympics regardless of the potential issues?

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    Screw pulling the adverts. Do the world a favour: put the adverts on a looped transmission and then NUKE EVERY CITY IN ARGENTINA!

    It isn't like anyone will care about being 41 million less illegitimate scumbags in the world.

    May 05th, 2012 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Chilean perspective

    You anglos are way too sensitive. I'm surprised by the level of disgust you people are showing. BIG DEAL, so they shot a crappy commercial in the early hours and then left like thieves in the night.
    The emotion you should be showing is pity, because this stunt was pathetic. After all the bluster from the Argentinians, the boycott, the lobbying of L.A. governments, wanting to sue oil exploration companies , etc. They come up with this bullshit. It is really sad.
    It is a pussy cat looking into a mirror and seeing a mighty lion.

    May 05th, 2012 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (30) reality check
    Look lad…., I normally don’t interact with turnips.
    And in previous postings you certainly have proved to be one.
    But I will make an exception today because of your candid acceptance of the ”Special Relationship” between a Welshman and his sheep.
    A bit like the ”Special Relationship” the Americans have with the rest of the Brits ;-)

    Don’t need to worry about me being Welsh though………
    As I once answered to another Turnip……..:
    “32 Think
    British (Irish) blood?
    Not a drop, Lad.
    My lineage is untainted!
    But, conceivably, some osmotic contamination may have occurred to a few of my ancestors which primal activity during long periods of the last 14 centuries was the expeditive shattering of British (Irish) skulls……..”
    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/01/18/brazilian-president-dilma-rousseff-will-reanalyze-offers-to-buy-jets

    You ask further down, who got the best deal….?
    The Scots and the Irish that went to USA, Canada and Australia or the Welsh that went to Patagonia............?

    If you mean individually, you will have to ask them, individually….

    But, if you mean as a national group, the answer is quite clear.
    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/01/18/brazilian-president-dilma-rousseff-will-reanalyze-offers-to-buy-jets

    Where else in the World could you make such a magnificent Welsh road movie?:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2011/01/18/brazilian-president-dilma-rousseff-will-reanalyze-offers-to-buy-jets

    And the same goes for dozens of other national groups throughout Argentina.
    Argentineans with mixed and nested identities.
    That’s one of the greatest strong points of our Nation.
    And that’s one of the greatest weak points of our Nation.
    But that’s exactly the way I, and the people I interact with, prefer it to be.

    (44) Skåre
    My Scandinavian compatriot......! Fyyyy, vad man har saknat dig ;-)
    I can see you are back with renewed Viking bluntness….
    Have you been learning from Breivik lately?

    May 05th, 2012 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Troop!!! Britain needs more TROOPS!!!

    May 05th, 2012 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    45

    We're not ALL too sensitive. I love the advert and I hope more get aired. More would've been made.

    May 05th, 2012 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @45 The Chilean perspective

    You really are a retard. No-one cares that they shoot a propaganda video .. they care that the defiled a war memorial in order to shoot a propaganda video.

    If that had been the Argentinian memorial in Buenos Aires to the poor inbred conscripts who died doing the dirty work of the junta, the whole of Argentina would be demanding war.

    In fact, only a few weeks ago a French photographer was shot dead in Buenos Aires for just taking a picture if the memorial without even so much as defiling it. SHOT DEAD!! .. so that makes the British response to unworthy Argentina lowlife scum defiling a war memorial quite restrained and dignified.

    May 05th, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    And the same goes for dozens of other national groups throughout Argentina.
    Argentineans with mixed and nested identities.
    That’s one of the greatest strong points of our Nation

    A food exporting Nation at that Think,cant help thinking the money spent on a argie welsh road trip flick,could of been used better,what you THINK me old mucker

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-12973543
    Dying from hunger in food-exporting Argentina

    May 05th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Usurping Pirate

    Think is onto something you know ....
    Where else in the world is run by the grandaughter of Croatian Nazi war criminals portraying themselves as the champions of human rights ?
    A woman who has a vast personal fortune garnered by theft , while the poor of the country suffer from hunger and malnutrition and the pensioners go without because their pensions were “ borrowed ” and never returned ?

    May 05th, 2012 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @51 UP - Think is an oxymoron!

    May 05th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ Skåre

    “the whole of Argentina would be demanding war”

    Bäng bäng

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHUsIU161w4

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @53 DanyBerger

    Good point. Most of the sad inbred Argentinian suckers are already demanding war .. because they are too cowardly to commit mass-suicide.

    May 05th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    My favourite thing about true Argentardian sports is that they're so good at them:

    Animal Interference - Argtards get the gold medal.
    Cream-bun eating - Gold for Argtardia
    1000m Cowardly Visa-fraud Skulk - Gold again for the Argtardians
    War Memorial Desecration - Great job Argtards!
    Dropping drugged Nuns out of Planes - Argtard gold!
    International Stealing - Gold gold gold!
    Annexation and Colonisation of other people's land - UTTER FAIL

    Sadly for Argsoc none of these sports are Olympic Events.

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Skåre

    @55 GreekYoghurt

    Don't forget that they are the undefeated world champions at shitting bricks in foxholes :)

    May 05th, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @56 Looks increasingly like they're going to be showing their abilities in that sport again in the near future.

    I for one will definitely be cheering on the opposition.

    May 05th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    This is just another gigantic Argentinian own goal that has been condemned by the free World.

    Argentina is a pethetic little nation.

    May 05th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland_ånden

    Bob

    Argentina is actually quite a big and very pathetic nation with an extraordinarily high GNP (gross national patheticness)

    :)

    May 05th, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    another memorable post from the ships cat that is guzz

    May 05th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • skåre

    His name is actually 'jizz', but he writes with the same heavily accented gibberish with which he speaks

    May 05th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Former Penguin News editor Lisa Watson informs by tweet ‏ @Lisafalklands:
    Somebody just sent me version of the advert with the ending adapted:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VetuOlwcmqU

    May 05th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britishbulldog

    I think its one-step too far with them, what person or country desecrates another countries war memorial? The answer of course is an Argentinian and Argentina. It’s a despicable act on their part.
    I think also that Argentina should now be kicked out of Olympics and if the Olympic committee don't kick them out then we should ban them ourselves when they come our country as undesirables.
    That should put all this on the world stage so that the whole of the world can actually see what scum they are

    May 05th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    62 JohnN
    That's quite funny.I hope it's the first of many.

    May 05th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    Curious that, according to Clarin, the subsidiary of Y&R in Argentina put out a statement signed by the Creative Director saying how proud they were of this work and refused to apologize for desecrating a war memorial. WPP doesn't appear to know what the hell is going on in it's organisation, or they're a bunch of soul-less gimps. One or the other.

    May 06th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    65: Clarín also reports that CFK plans to attend UN's Decolonization Committee - first time Argentine president has ever attended apparently, and that by coincidence, meeting 14 June - Argentina's Falklands Ward surrender date. And goes on that “wait to see what's being prepared for the Olympic Games in London.”
    http://www.clarin.com/politica/Gobierno-promete-sorpresas-reclamo-Malvinas_0_695330543.html

    May 06th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Retarded still crying Unbelievable Uff

    May 06th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rogbahia

    I guess that means some Argentinian directors at Y&R Buenos A' will be fired by a Brit!! LOL

    May 06th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @68 I doubt it. Advertising people don't have a moral or ethic to share between the lot of them. They think there is no such thing as bad publicity and recall is everything to them. Sadly, that's fine when it's attached to a brand, and they kind of shot themselves in the foot because people's attitudes are now 'Y&R = Anti-british Monument Desecrating Morally Vacuous Knobs'. That's why they sent out one message to the anglosphere and another to the spanopoorsphere, so they can keep milking all the cows.

    @67, it's kind of ironic that you're an argtard, and you're calling people retarded. Argtards are by definition the retards, knob-head.

    May 06th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @GreekYoghurt

    Well seems we are making some progress here.

    You are right people in the Marketing and media business think that way.

    “Better people talk badly about you that don’t talk about you at all”

    So they have archive the objective with that spot.

    May 07th, 2012 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rogbahia

    Hmmm! Rather than trashing a whole industry in a couple of ill informed sentences, I'll go with:
    'A basic character trait of many (note the word, “many”) Latin cultures is the inability to plan ahead, including: thinking about the consequences, before speaking, deciding or acting.'

    May 07th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anti-Fascist

    Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves, oversean by imported European colonials. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.

    Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.

    In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.

    Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.

    May 08th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #51 “Where else in the world is run by the grandaughter of Croatian Nazi war criminals portraying themselves as the champions of human rights”

    I don't know, Croatia maybe, certainly not Argentina as Cristina has zero Croatian heritage, so your just making stuff up now, aren't you?

    May 09th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rogbahia

    Don't cry for me Argentina—Cristina Perón Chaves is carrying the flag!

    May 10th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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