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Peruvian Air Force upgrading its 12 Mirage 2000 and 18 MIG-29
The Peruvian Air Force revealed the upgrading of its Mirage 2000 and MIG-29 combat aircraft demanding an investment of 266 million dollars, reported the Sunday edition of Diario Correo. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMIG s are unargued most sophisticated combat aircrafts in the world and unique which can make cobra-turning in the air.
May 21st, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0The MIG-29 is a good plane, no doubt.
May 21st, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0However I've never really liked the aesthetics of it, it always looked as if someone has sawn off a big chunk of the front underbody.
“MIG s are unargued most sophisticated combat aircrafts in the world ”
May 21st, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ummm.....err......Okey Dokey if you say so.
MIG 29's are good planes, but “are far from being unargued most sophisticated combat aircrafts in the world” nowerdays.
May 21st, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0They “make cobra-turning in the air”... big deal, go to a f*cking circus with it!
But there is no plane which can do more extreme curves than modern air-to-air missles. Nowerdays there are other criteria for war planes than 20-30 years ago. Dogfights like everybody think it is only exist in movies.
First plane to detect the other now decides the fight, and MIG29 with old technology are at the short end vs modern BLOCK 50 F16 fighters, Eurofighters and many others more.
I wonder what the poor Peruvian peasants (35% of the population live below the poverty line) and average man-in-the-street thinks of spending $ 266m on updating 30 jet planes which are already over 25 years old?
May 21st, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“MIG s are unargued most sophisticated combat aircrafts in the world”
May 21st, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it 1986 again? lol
What a waste of money and to add insult to injury they are left without an airforce whilst they “upgrade” these old clunkers. Fancy their pilots only being able to train on a supped up playstation in France. Come on Ollanta, not only are you letting the terrorist shinning path operate in Peru again, but worse still you are leaving Peru defenceless with no airforce.
May 21st, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm just wondering who is Peru defending itself from? I remember a few years back in the mid 90s, they had a bit of a squabble with Equador, at which time Peru's friendly neighbour Argentina, in this “area of peace” illegally supplied arms to Equador, so they could kill some Peruvians. With friends like these...
May 21st, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Argentina “peacefully” supplied those weapons to Ecuador.
May 21st, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine what could be done with $ 266m to fight the drug problem in Peru!!
May 21st, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Wow, and enlighten us as to what your military experience is? If you only knew how ridiculous your statement was dude.... Next!
May 21st, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 11....Thats Pentagon opinion
May 21st, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 That's a super response. First of all, I'd like to thank you for answering my question. Secondly, you're simply reinforcing the absurdity of your original statement. How's the weather in BA? Is it cold there?
May 21st, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see where he's got it wrong.
May 21st, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Pentagon says “Migs are the best planes to shoot at”.....and Murky has a think about it.
@14 Funny as hell...
May 21st, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 14 ...i said “ the most sophisticated combat aircraft in the world ”“ not ”“ .......the best combat aircraft in the world ”” .....not same thing .
May 21st, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Oh, don't worry Think, it's just as ridiculous either way. So, you're good!
May 21st, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I doubt there'll ever be a better or more sophisticated fighter than the F-22 Raptor
May 21st, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Manned fighters are becoming obsolete like the short lived battleship was - the future is in swarms of drones.
@ 18 .. the Drones are used only in spying activities not in heavy-normal bombardings that have frequency problems...in the futue i think they can be used in limited marginal operations not in comprehensive ones.
May 21st, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you not heard of drone strikes in Pakistan?
May 21st, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA has been flying fully armed Predator and Reaper drones for years. They fire laser guided Hellfire missiles - you wouldn't want one ruining your day.
The peruvian have a double speech since they chuckle when Ecuador or Chile renew their weapons, countries that don´t bother them despite the big agression that means it´s narcotraffic and thousand of criminals exported to the neighbor countries. Now, when they upgrade SILENCE. Is another sample of their natural hipocrecy.
May 21st, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 20...of course i heard these strikes hit wrongly civilian targets by untrue intelligence.
May 21st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's true. The Americans always aim to hit civilians wherever possible. They fly around for hours making sure there are no perps in the zone before they strike.
May 21st, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MurkyThink
May 21st, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no shit
The spitfire could blow it from the sky at 3,000 feet,
Core you duunarf go on,
Who cares what peru has,
All you need to know , is two very important things,
1, you don’t have any planes
2, we have
Now clear the mist.
Murky,
May 21st, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Mig might have a sophisticated airframe, but it is the pilot and the weapons that really count. As Manrod said, no fighter can out manoeuvre a modern air to air missile.
Anyway the future is pilotless fighters like this:
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/EquipmentAndLogistics/NewTaranisCombatAircraftThundersIntoView.htm
I don't have problem with Peru updating their fighters. They are not going to declare war on anyone and they are not buying new aircraft. It seems quite natural to give them a new coat of pain and chage the fuses.
Peru has been growing rapidly and they know their future is open trade, not looking for problems with vecinos.
25/ con
May 21st, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with Murky,becouse the vitiation of pilotless fighters with remote frequency could be easy and doesn't need high tech to cope with them !
@26
May 21st, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is a valid point, but I am sure there will be measures to stop remote hijacking. I guess we will see in the future.
But with regards to the Peruvian migs: there effectiveness will depend on the weapons on board. The article doesn't say what they are - maybe they want to keep it a secret.
Manrod & Condorito...
May 22nd, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because a modern missile has acquired you, it doesn't mean that you are doomed. There are modern counter measures available in conjunction with evasive maneuvers. It is actually very difficult to hit an individual F-16 which may belong to an integrated tactical air command. A stray MIG 29 on the other hand with no AWACS cover is history against an AIM 120 AMRAAM. In fact a single Chilean F 16 can target and destroy 6 enemy aircraft simultaneously from a distance of up to 140 klms. with their new AIM 120CJ AMRAAM. Money well spent my friends.
do not CFKs military , now shout, bang bang .
May 22nd, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29
May 22nd, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bigger fellas follow on behind shouting, Tank, Tank, Tank.
@28
May 22nd, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed.
That was partly my point, that it’s the weapons onboard (and counter measures) that make the difference.
My other point @25 was that manned fighters will soon be obsolate.
ha ha they couldent make it up.
May 22nd, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0poor argentina, saddled with a calamity jane, and no mistake .
@29 & @30.
May 23rd, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You Brits crack me up......... You know, they only have 9.... Yes 9 operational Skyhawks.
To think when I was a little boy, these Argies were like a Latin American SUPERPOWER. Very sad indeed.
Aparently they share petrol between each other,
May 23rd, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0spare tanks are dropped from oneplane to the other,
aparently it saves fuel in landing and refuling lol.
@Briton: Hey dumbass, why did you even bother to read the article and submit a comment if you didn't care about what Peru has?
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