Argentine Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli said on Monday that the United Kingdom maintains its “arrogance and haughtiness” over the Malvinas sovereignty issue as the 30th anniversary of the end of the war approaches. Read full article
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Minister Puricelli should pluck out a tear to go with that statement if he really wants to garner sympathy - poor fellowJun 12th, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
“we are convinced, things are going to change because we will be adding another brick in the recovery of our Malvinas through diplomacy”.Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Diplomacy = denial of islanders rights to self determination, attempted air/ sea blockade, threats of legal action agains oil exploration companies and now erroneous (I'm being generous here) statements about the UK's unwillingness to work with the Red Cross to repatriate remains of the Argentinian fallen from '82 (the UK has not received a request from the Red Cross - if they do they will respond positively)?
I take it Malvinistas don't celebrate the end of killing and destruction they just like to see it go on and on and on. The war itself is being commemorated, not celebrated and it is none of Argentinas business what we do in our own territory.Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina’s unquestionable rights over the Malvinas and South Atlantic Islands”Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
And they're asking for negotiations-Lol!
Steveu, this is Argentina 'giving peace a chance'. It seems their perverted idea of peace is to threaten, bully, harass and intimidate, bunch of cowards.Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Nothing will change as its not the will of the people of the Falkland's islands nor the will of the British and we know Argentina is clearly no match politically, economically or militarily against the British.
The Uk and the Falklands WILL celebrate the war in which Argenweener started and lost,Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
REAP WHAT YOU SOW!!
wait, what ?!Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The war Argentina is ashamed of, that apparently harvested little support from the actual Argentine public, is something which we should not celebrate the end of ??
even if the UK was totally in the wrong, it is a contradiction of their own way of thinking for them say that it is no thing for us to celebrate the end of.
Oh wait, i made the mistake of thinking that the Malvinists use the system, or even understand the concept of logic. How very indelicate of me.....
Oh dear, another acusation of haughtiness, that'll learn us.Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Did he actually say 'lack of rights to the island'?Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Is he referring to the geography or the people? He can't be talking about the people because Argentina do not recognise the Falkland Islanders as people and say that they should have no rights and certainly have no rights or voice in the Argentine narrative. Isn't that the strangest thing?
Of course if he is talking about the geography then I suppose he must be going all 'tree hug hippy mother earth' on us. Yeah maaaan. Right on.
lol @ RGsJun 12th, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Viva la Republica Banana!
He continues in his weird little mind of delerium! Such grate militarization!!! he ONLY naval surface ship here since rarly march is a small little patrol vessel with nothing more that a 30mm popgun - as compared to their several frigates and destroyers in the SouthWest Atlantic!Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
He has no idea if there is a British submarine in the S Atlantic or not!
For the last 29 years the British Airforce prescence here has consisted of a mere 4 fighter jets! Not our fault if all the dozens of ones he owns are 40 years out of date and falling to bits!
NO deployment of extra troops has arrived in the Islands - just the same, approx 150 strong infantry company! A few more come and go for a few days on exercise - as they have done for nigh on 30 years!
The man is a clown - along with over 30 million more next door to us!(some of the 40 million are sensible!)
Millions of Argentines were of course NOT celebrating a military victory on 2nd April 1982?
@8 WestisBest (#)Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:46 am
Haughtiness, arrogance. Being accused of these things by a Malvinista is like Walther von Brauchitsch giving a speech extolling the virtues of multiculturalism, inclusivity and multi ethnicity and blasting Churchill for his evil anti Semitism.
The buffoon doth protest too much.
Why would anyone not celebrate the end of a war?Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The Argentines are the only sick fools who would celebrate the start of one.
So...the chap who celebrated the 30th anniversary of the Argentine Air Force dropping their first bombs on the Royal Navy (see http://en.mercopress.com/2012/05/02/argentina-recalls-air-force-malvinas-baptism-of-fire-promises-utmost-respect-for-islanders ) is upset at a commemoration service for the end of a war and a celebration of liberation from military invasion.Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Does he not understand the irony that he as a defence minister is making this point to an audience in military uniform?
I don't support war, unless we started it, but won't celebrate it's end, unless we finished it. We want colonialism to end, unless it's the falklands, in which case we want to colonise the people there. We want negotiations, but had our constitution changed to say no engotiations can take place. We want the people to like us, but will do allwe can to make the islanders' lives a misery. We are diplomatic, but use everything except diplomacy where the islanders are concerned. We are mainly german, itlain and spanish settlers, but don't see irony in complaining about imperialism and transported populations.Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
These people are stupider than a bag of mud, they can't even formulate a proper plan of action regarding their policies. Just... just... go away...
15. They will never go away. This dishonest despicable country will be a pain in the ass forever. The Falklands will need to be looking over their shoulder forever. They will need defending forever no matter what status the islands have. The will of the British is to defend them forever if thats what it takes, and as long as it remains the wish of the inhabitants. God Bless the Royal Navy.Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
and criticized the fact that on that date there will be an unusual deployment of air, sea, underwater and marine troops in the Islands.Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
how does he know that? He must have a UK armed forces advanced deployment detector to go with Argentina's nuclear submarine detector.
Whatever kit he has, it's nothing compared to the giant bs detector that goes off in my head everytime he or anyone from his government speaks.Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
On that date , those service personnel who are there, may all well be in full dress uniform, which would indeed be quite 'unusual'.Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
i think we dont need to talk about sovereignty of the islands because we have no issue with there sovereignty. ignorant ArgentinaJun 12th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@19: Ah, the uniform of a conqueror, you mean? El Conquistador, is the proper term from what I understand, but for the life of me I can't think of what language it was termed in or for what events it's really famous for...let me think a moment...Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You are all forgetting that the average Malvinesta is unable or unwilling to reamber previous statements or news and conenct the dots as this would make them believe their government is talking crap on the issue. As far as I know Argentina is the only one of the countries which has actualy made statements implying that their is no issue. Get this into your heads Malvinestas the only rights you have are:Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
a) based on lies at worst and unreserched suedo history at best
b) ended when you ilegaly invaded the islands
c) Are before you were a reconised soverign nation
You have no rights who does are the 9 generations of islanders who have poured their heart and soul into developing a wonderfull economy, community and life for themselves. Start worrying about your own economy and leave the 3,000 people who want nothing to do with you alone.
There is not now nor will there even be a positive response to your calls of colinization.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9326833/Falkland-Islands-plan-referendum-to-send-a-message-to-Argentina.htmlJun 12th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Referendum to be held in the FI on their future.
Ah well, looks like the RG's will have their way after all. As we know the islanders are Argentine, are being kept against their wishes, held hostage by the British troops and if international monitors are allowed in as part of the vote then this will finally be laid out for the world too see.
Or maybe not......
Nothing will be done, so the only option left is for them to invade the islands and try to deport everyone before the UK has a chance to react, thing is that any ship that comes near will be blown out the water and any plane suspected of trying to be part of that will be immediately intercepted by typhoons. Argentina has nothing left, they know it, we know it. Give up.Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Who let Putrid Jelly out of his slime-pit?Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Puricelli claimed “the UK will press on with its arrogance and haughtiness as its only argument to continue the occupation of the Malvinas Islands” adding that the UK is not interested in diplomacy because of “the fragility of its arguments and lack of rights to the Islands” No. The UK will press on with its attitude of listening to the Islanders and resisting all attempts to steal their land and their homes.
“Today we are commemorating the 183 years of the first Argentine government of Malvinas, and that sovereignty is going to be defended by the attendance of President Cristina Fernandez before the United Nations Decolonization Committee, where she will reaffirm the Argentine determination, unrenounceable and unalienable to claim Argentina’s unquestionable rights over the Malvinas and South Atlantic Islands”, underlined Puricelli.
Although we ignore the prior (by 64 years) British claim because it's inconvenient.
”Puricelli then made a reference to the presence of Foreign Office minister Jeremy Browne in the Faklands insisting that it is the intention of the UK “to maintain and increase the militarization of the South Atlantic” and anticipated that Browne’s disrespect for the Decolonization Committee (“nothing is going to change”) only is a confirmation of the UK arrogance and force, as the only reason to continue occupying our Malvinas Islands.
Well, the Decolonisation Committee IS irrelevant.
He also underlined this will be the first British State Secretary to pay a state visit to the Falklands since January 2008, and criticized the fact that on that date there will be an unusual deployment of air, sea, underwater and marine troops in the Islands.”
Jeremy Browne is a MINISTER. But, hey, more forces to the Falklands? Good-oh. Perhaps we could have a review of all 4 Type 45 destroyers, all 13 frigates, all 11 submarines, all 4 assault vessels, a couple of squadrons of Typhoons and a live missile firing!
This guy's a muppet. Liberation can't be celebrated according to Putrid Jelly.. bang goes half the world's celebrations then!Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina seeks to bend the already bent C24 committee to perform a 180 degree U-turn to do the very opposite for which it was set up.
183 years of 'wanting to' governoring the Falklands, what rot! Argentina slept from 1850-1941 on the Falklands when the snidy Peron thought 'Hey, those Germans could win the war and we can steal the Falklands'.
Unusual deployment of Arms... what are we going to do, paint the guns pink and weld them into unusual shapes.
unrenounceable and unalienable ...Argentina’s unquestionable rights .. yep, their sovereign right to talk bollocks (pardon my french).
Not very diplomatic Arty.Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Notice you don't mention democracy or self determination. Could that be because you and Kirchner are a couple of National Socialists.
Personally, I preferred you when you were a stand up comedian.
so lets not celebrate VE, VJ, Anzac days etc etc, what a tit, we should hold a Nato exercise in the Falklands (ideal scenario) to really piss them off, maybe a fleet review, or maybe a visit by a Trident submarine, can you imagine the uproar, would be funny as fook, can you imagine her Turkey neck would be something to behold. Rumour has it we might train the Brazilians on thier nuclear subs, crikey standby for some flak.Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
#13 Why would anyone not celebrate the end of a war?Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The Argentines are the only sick fools who would celebrate the start of one.
Thats just wrong, there were celebrations here and across Europe when World War 1 broke out; it was so popular that for a time socialism collapsed among the masses to be replaced by jingoism, until the real cost of war was learned.
A good contrast indeed, between the beautiful and brilliant Cristina looking to the future and the useless LibDem Browne celebrating militarism past
This isn't even politics. Malvinology is entirely an irrational belief system. Its incredible what people (choose to) believe despite whats right in front of them indicating otherwise.Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
But its in their interests to believe this nationalistic malvinista fountain of shite because they want to believe their loved ones and friends died for a good cause in the 82 invasion or their employment is reliant on it or their sense of identity relies on it etc etc.
Rationality has nothing to do with Malvinology. Its as whacky as Scientology.
@29 hmmmm funny there wasnt the same celebrations in Argentina at the end of the second world war tho was there? I wonder why that might be?Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
showing your age bk were you celebrating then or just speaking carp as normalJun 12th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Indeed,according to the former Prime Minister Tony Blair ,Diego Garcia is said to be extremely important for Britain and important part of British Security Not only has Diego Garcia has been used as a launchpad for the so called war on terror but prisoners are routinely tortured on the islands.The Chagossians events represents a snapshot of the British Governments' questionable records abroad.Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Similarly ,the widespread deception surrounding the depopulation is also not particularly unique since deceit debatable played a main role in forging a case for the invasion of Iraq..indeed the all similar tragedies exemplifies how a whole system works behind democratic façade ”
Yes Max Britain is evil personified and Argentina is a shining beacon of hope and truth.Jun 12th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Your sole aim is to discredit Britain on this forum. Why? You are not searching for the truth. You are utterly irrational.
lose an arguement Max and resort back to Iraq and Diego garcia, you know something I would love Al Qaeda to set a bomb off in Argentina and see where your arguement goes from there, total outrage I suspectJun 12th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They can only talk about Iraq/Diego Garcia with ridiculous and usually completely ignorant arguments since they don't know anything about either in some pathetic attempt to divert attention away from their corrupt and failed government.Jun 12th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You know as soon as they bring it up they have no argument to the topic in hand, its rather sad and unoriginal. Maybe if they shared a brain between them they could come up with a cohesive point that makes sense but alas we have max the muppet and marcus the moron here.
It's like having a debate at a special school but then they are nothing different to the Argentine government with their lies, false stories and colonial ambitions.
you know something I would love Al Qaeda to set a bomb off in Argentina and see where your arguement goes from there,Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
They got spiteful with their own terrorists
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Will this a shut the fuckers up or will they continue keep on crying like the soft baby's they are?Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You wanted dialogue on Sovereignty looks like you’re going to get it, now fuck yourselves off when you get the answer you don't want Argentine bastards.
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doubt it mateJun 12th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You know what guys? I am loving this!! Minister Puricelli and the top commanders of the Armed Forces at the ceremonyJun 12th, 2012 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
These would be the Top commanders of the Armed Forces who so catastrophically failed to hold onto an island that was only 300 - 400 miles away from their mainland?
Where as our top commanders of the Armed Forces managed to re-take an island 8,000 miles away from our mainland.......yeah..... ok
For their next trick the top commanders of the Argentine Armed Forces will be fighting their way out of a wet paper bag, organising a p*ss up in a brewery and be beaten at a game of chess by a plank of wood.
Why did I ever think that they could invade the Falklands again? Got to stop dropping that LSD in my coffee instead of Sweetex.......
@39 I'll tell you exactly what will happen. The argies will say that they don't recognise the Islanders' right to self-determination so the result of the referendum is meaningless. They may get in a few snipes on the same lines ahead of the referendum.Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I can only see the possibility of three options to end this situation. Please note that I don't include Falklands independence. I'm not sure that that would make the argies back off.
Option 1: A completely different, and intelligent argie government that immediately changes the argie constitution to say that it has no claim to the Falkland Islands.
Option 2: The United Nations finally grows a pair and tells argieland to stop bullying the Islanders OR ELSE! The OR ELSE could start with expulsion from the UN and go on to military intervention to change the regime PERMANENTLY.
Option 3: Britain could give argieland a hefty belt on the nose. The sort of belt that rocks their head back and leaves the nose still bleeding five years later. As a contrast, I tend to characterise the 1982 Falklands War as a slap on the wrist.
@35 - slattzzzJun 12th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I would love Al Qaeda to set a bomb off in Argentina and see where your arguement goes from there, total outrage I suspect
Al Qaeda want publicity, so they would only set a bomb off somewhere important, hence why they wouldn't bother with a failing country like Argentina. ;0)
Hmm, the feeling i'm getting from the comment boards is that Argies feel this exhibition of democracy doesn't change their wishes to round up the falklanders and send them elsewhere so that they can fill the islands with corrupt Argies.Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Other pseudo-democratic states like Bolivia, 1930s Nazi Germany and Venezuela don't[didn't] care about the population of the places they want[ed] to colonise either. Bolivia's 'access to the sea' cries don't ever include discussions about what the people living on the land think.
It's just South Americans being savages, again.
good point lepreconJun 12th, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
just proves that he is another puppet, of CFK .Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Just ignore them break off diplomatic relations and pull out all our cash, pick up the 250 million quid they owe us first. Then ignore them, if anything comes near the islands blat it. Draw a line in the sand cross it and get a beating, it will soon be time to stop pussy footing around and grow some.Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you may well have a point,Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The Falklands have the right of self determination!!!Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
i'm with you cloho :)Jun 12th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Did anyone really expect the Argentines not to kick up a fuss?Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
As said before the Argentines object to our involvement in Iraq because they wanted to build the Condor missile with them and Sadam Hussein is the Peronist's model of a good leader. Argies are good at being friendly with despots.Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You celebrate victory? But Argentina won the war! Argentina won but we didn't want to sink any more of your ships after Invincible! We allow you to live in peace for 30 years but now we want our land back and our farms back!Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
'Please note that I don't include Falklands independence. I'm not sure that that would make the argies back off.'Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Of course not, Conqueror@42. Argentina would be even more annoyed by an independent Falklands- they would regard it the way they would regard one of their provinces declaring independence, as an affront to the motherland, and would end its independence as quickly as they could.
Greek Yoghurt @ 44Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
While I hold the Argentine Gov't and many ordinary citizens of the country in utter contempt, please be advised that not all South Americans are savages. At least not more so than any other humans, including you. Furthermore, you're a bit of a racist. Shame on you. Racial hatred and generalizations are enemies of wisdom. Long live the Falklands, without bigots.
Max (#) Clutching at straws a bit here are'nt you.Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Kicking the falkanders out of their homes or forcing them to live under foreign occupation would make you as bad as you view us.
Unless of course, you somehow view the falklanders asd some kind of inferiors who desereve to be kicked about by Argentina - a racist view.
We had settlements on the islands before you did and our claim is unbroken. Get over it.
Oh Filippo!!!!!! Now i am starting to feel sorry for you! I mean which other imbecile let you out? Why did they let you out?Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
#54 what is the mental health provision in argentina like or don't the notice delusional people anymore?Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
As Captain blackadder would say who'd notice another another mad man around here?
I seem to remember Argentine losers celebrating the date of their ill-fated invasion, not very long ago. Like it or not señor Puricelli, the people of the Falkland Islands were liberated on the 14th of June 1982. They have, quite rightly, celebrated their liberation on that date for the last thirty years, and they and their ancestors will celebrate the 14th of June for generations to come, however loud you bitch and whine. Get used to it.Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
look who's talking about arrogance, an argentine politican...Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
dia de los inocentes?
Britain had VE day and VJ day. Why not VF day?Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The presence of UK Defense Minister in Malvinas is military escalation his attendance at liberation ceremony is a militarization of crisis that make war more likely! We also know about nuclear missiles submarine patrolling in Argentine waters off Malvinas a clear breach of nuclear treaty, bringing British ICBM missiles within range of Argentina for the first time!!!Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@63Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
What you know and what you believe are two entirely different things, what a complete load of tosh!
Filippo - the clue is in the name, ICBM, Inter-continental ballistic missiles. You have never been OUT of range of British ICBMs - they do not have to come anywhere near the South Atlantic.Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@63Jun 13th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Inter Continental means that they can be fired from another Continent eg Europe.You really are a twat.
Mind you Prince William's big yellow rescue helicopter has really upped the ante.
Watch the Falklands memorial services for both British and Argentine dead conducted with dignity.No sabre rattling, no flag burning, thats the difference between us.
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Ja jaja!! Argentina doesnt even have an Army!!! It was dismanteled by wonder woman CFK!!!Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Im sooo tired of reading about dead issues. With all do respect for all the soldiers that lost theis lives on such a stupid war. The falkland will never be Argentinan. They cannot support their own contry and they want to addopt the mayor south atlantic military base on the south atlantic. Good Luck with that one!! and keep you eyes open!!!