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Argentina invites Russia’s Gazprom to consider investing in YPF operations
The technical teams of Argentine nationalized hydrocarbon companies YPF and Russia’s Gazprom will begin to do joint work in the area, said Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo shes appealing to russia for protection and support sounds like echos of 82 why else would she mention militarization,
Jun 20th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0she could easily start a war in her lust for greed and power,
maybe thats her end game if we cant have them neither can you.
watch them borders they WILL jointly test them.
Hang on, I thought a certain member of the Agentine delegation said that the side lines of the G20 was not the place to discuss the Falklands Islands????
Jun 20th, 2012 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bit of a double standard there.
Tinman will get his sorry arse kicked for letting that slip
Jun 20th, 2012 - 02:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hello Vladimir
Jun 20th, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hello Cristina
We can make some joint work in the oil area do you know.
Oh! that’s cool Cris
By the way do you know that dangerous Mohammeds like monkeys with machine guns are militarising the south Atlantic?
Oh really?
Yes
You have any shopping list Cris?
Oh! Yes I just was thinking to tell you that. Wait a minute please, because I don’t know what envelopes is they are so similar...
UN 40 resolutions nope, Shopping military list ah! here it is.
Thank Cris I just will fax it to Rosoboronexport
Meanwhile back in the real world and normal reality DannyBummer Putin is thinking I wonder if we can rape this back water country for resources like we have done with other countries?
Jun 20th, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares if Argentina buys military hardware? It could spend 100bn and still be no match for the UK that would still be light years ahead, its all rather academic anyway since Argentina has zero funds to finance a conflict against the UK.
Whilst Argentina has been spending almost zero on its military the UK has spent over 65bn each year and has a incredibly well worked up veteran force with extremely sophisticated technology that Russia doesn't have. Not to mention Russia has never once sold its best technology to foreign countries but sells technology that is usually a generation or two old.
So your little fantasy DannyBummer will remain that, a fantasy.
Putin's thinking 'I wish this screeching harpy would shut up!'
Jun 20th, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also the headline should read, 'Argentina begs Russia's Gazprom to pleeeease invest in YPF....'
So let's make a list of who has turned down the wonderful investment opportunity:
1. China
2. The USA
3. Every oil company in the world
You see they're not stupid. Who in their right minds would risk investing in a country that won't even follow its own laws? Who insists on a price cap on fuel so there is zero chance of making a profit?
I have a feeling that Putin will thank CFK for her query using diplomatic language, then put as much distance between himself and Argentina.
Everyone at the G20 is wandering around saying 'What's that smell moving from the Argentine President?'
'oh yes, thought I recognised it, it's a mixture of bullsh!t and desperation.' :0)
They deserve each other.Wouldn't trust either of them.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The President had a bilateral meeting with the Russian president, whom she invited to visit Argentina and thanked for his country’s historic support for Argentina’s claim over the Malvinas sovereignty,” Timerman said.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The minister also said the President told Putin about “the increasing militarization of the South Atlantic region carried out unilaterally by Great Britain.”
The woman is fucking obsessed. Its really sad now.
I presume that if Russia supports Argentina's claim on the Falklands (which I'm not actually sure they do...?) then Russia will be withdrawing from South Ossetia and Abkhazia within the next week? Oh Good.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0She really has not got a clue.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the Russians know the Falklands dispute aint going nowhere
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Russia calls Japan's island claims a “dead-end”
Reuters) - Russia called Japan's claims to a disputed Pacific island chain a “dead end” Thursday after Tokyo warned President Dmitry Medvedev against visiting the archipelago
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/30/us-russia-japan-islands-idUSTRE68T3EK20100930
@Xect
Jun 20th, 2012 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Whilst Argentina has been spending almost zero on its military the UK has spent over 65bn each year and has a incredibly well worked up veteran force with extremely sophisticated technology that Russia doesn't have”
Like your mini toy Spy sat make from a Commodore 64 in black & white rendering just 3 pics an hour?
You have a big “Imagination” and you like to live from an “Illusion”
Oops a British will tell you that just here
Bara bap, bara bap Illusion, Illusion...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPDfArwW4dA
More silly crap,
Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is this,
Russia is not stupid,
And anyone who thinks other wise is either more stupid, or CFK supporters,
This man is an [x] very clever and intelligent,
He will not be a CFK puppet, that’s for sure .
But she might be his .
#12
Jun 20th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good for you Dany. With a knowledge of Military affairs in weapons and intelligence, you must be an advisor to Janes international defence review.
I take their assessments more seriously than Wilkipedia and various youtube postings. By the way, you have no idea what sats. Britain has access to.
Our listening station at GCHQ can tell you what pizzas Maximo has ordered for his bed time snack.
Vladimir to Christina. In the spirit of bilateral friendship, we would like to have the use of facilities for our navy to have R&R in your peace loving country.
Because of distances between our glorious countries we would need to have an aircraft base to enable crews to fly home. We would also like our nuclear subs. to visit in the spirit of mutual cooperation and friendship. If your country is threatened by the pirate force of 3000 in despicable islands wrested away from the heroic Argentinian people by the most despised nation on Earth, whose name would foul both our mouths, if spoken, we will defend you.
USA to UK. I believe you have a little island in the S.Atlantic - the Falklands?
As our number one ally - when it suits us -we would like to have some use of the facilities there for refuelling our fleet and also for our aircraft on training flights. There would not be much disruption to the life of the residents who would not be inconveienced.. Some enlargement of the harbour, the runways and the building of hardened shelters because of the inclement weather experienced there. All this would be at no cost.
If any aggresive behaviour was made to the islands from any source,then we would be duty bound to defend ourselves
UK TO USA. Ask the Falkland Islanders, it's their country. We will concur with their wishes.
So the Argentine government steal from a Spanish company and offer to sell it to Russia. I thought they were trying to flog YPF off to China?
Jun 20th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17753963
Confusing business this banana republic politics.
The title of this article is soooo wrong. It should read “Argieland desperately seeks help from someone, anyone, who might know anything about the oil industry!”
Jun 20th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Did you know that, in 2003, during the invasion of Iraq, 14 British tanks of the 7th Armoured Brigade met with 14 tanks of the Iraqi forces. It is known as the 14-0 engagement due to the fact that all 14 Russian-built and supplied tanks were destroyed whilst no British tanks were damaged. This is, of course, an “illusion”. As the Iraqi tank crews will tell you. If you can find them, stitch them back together and infuse them with life. But it's always good to call things “illusions”. Until they get up and rip your face off! Have a nice day.
maybe she should try busking, as the begging seems to be getting her nowhere!
Jun 20th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Dannyboy In the highly unlikely event that Russia would gift Argentina enough military hardware that Argentina would be more of a real threat than the annoying irritant that it is today; Britain might have to re-deploy NATO assets from Europe. That wouldn't please our NATO allies. The Americans in particular would be pretty pissed-off with Russia and offer any necessary military support to Britain. Of course Putin knows all this, so you're getting no more than tea and sympathy, and a shoulder to cry on from Russia. China wouldn't want to know either, as China depends heavily on trade with the EU and NATO countries. The only countries stupid enough to offer military hardware to Argentina are your closest friends Venezuela and Iran. Again the U.S. wouldn't be happy at that. Off you go, back to the drawing board.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Asset strip them Putin, as rgs to lazy to develop own resources
Jun 20th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is how Cristina Kirchner got in power, and how she stays in power. In Argentina it is OBLIGATORY for all citizens to vote, she speaks of democracy and the only thing she knows about it total corruption!
Jun 20th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
I don't think Russia are going to side with Argentina over the Falklands. Didn't the UK just stop them supplying arms to Syria? The ship has turned around and is heading back to Russia.
Jun 20th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think CFKC is so narrow-mided and narcissistic that she has no idea about world politics. She is playing a very small game by believing Argentina is the centre of the universe and completely missing the bigger picture. She is so out of her depth.
6 LEPRecon
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Who insists on a price cap on fuel so there is zero chance of making a profit?”
Answer: Brasil.
Brasil has not allowed a price rise on fuel since 2008, despite announcing US$ 450 Billion to build rigs and whatever they need to develop their offshore oil assets.
The newly appointed CEO of Petrobras (a very capable chemist appointed by Rousseff herself) has 'indicated' she was not consulted before the announcement and has agreed that without a price rise the plans are 'difficult'.
Rousseff is frightended to death at the thought of increasing fuel prices due to the potential for civil unrest such a rise would mean.
Cart and horse, anyone?
YES!......Go for it!......
Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If CARLOS SLIM from Mexico, the richest man in the world, acquired 8.4% (228.000 US millons dollars) in Yacimiento Petroliferos Fiscales S.A. it means good business.
@16...ConQUEERRR
A whimp changing his mind ..as soon he hears the word RUSIA...
@23Sussie
Jun 20th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Carlos Slim acquired 8.48 in YPF because the Kirchners friends Enkanazis were given the opportunity to buy 25% of the company ,they defaulted on the loan and Slim as guarantor was Forced to purchase.
CFK said this is “good news”and a major investment.
Slim Jnr distanced himself from the Argentine government by saying “This is not a purchase” .......More lies from CFK. Not good business at all.
Meanwhile Kirchners personal wealth goes from $2 million to $40million in 5 years.............
@Self-DETERIORATION
Jun 20th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FEEL THE RUSIAN MEN INTELLIGENCE AND....PASSION vs the UK...
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Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 26 Self-DETERIORATION
Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HEY....COWARD UK...ASKING HELP FROM THE USA? ....HAHAHA,
how about the threats from ConQUEEEEEERRRRR.../ OH, HE CHANGED HIS MIND?...HE IS A WHIMP...
@27 Pussie
Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont need it .our Boy Scouts could beat Argentina, all wind and piss.
Is there no end to the desperate relationship between Argentina and the likes of Cuba, Iran, Venezuela and now Putin ... next stop North Korea!
Jun 21st, 2012 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0But then, perhaps it would not be a bad thing for Russia to become involved for it knows what Argentina doesn't ... the North Atlantic always wins!!!!!
@Clyde15
Jun 21st, 2012 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you tell me what pizza I have ordered today?
@Alexei
“Britain might have to re-deploy NATO assets from Europe”
Really?
Came one you both.
Parabap, parabap Illussion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS_whAnYCQ4
jump, jump
@30Dany B
Jun 21st, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 060cm ......... (to fit the size of your mouth ! )
#30
Jun 21st, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Dany, I do not work for GCHQ so I am not privy to any information they acquire and would be in breach of the“ Official Secrets Act” if I told you - presuming you eat pizza.
If I did tell you, I would have to send 007 to terminate you.
In another topic you referred to the UK carriers and the fact that the F35 could not be used because they do not have cats.&traps. As per usual, your ignorance of weapons systems has surfaced again. The UK has ordered the STVOL version of this aircraft which takes off and lands without the need of catapults. This aircraft is a 21 century replacement to the Harrier which you may have heard of in relation to the 1982 conflict. The US Marine Corps have also ordered this version
I am getting a bit weary of having to correct your factual errors.
Try looking up Lockheed Martin and Flight International
Also Came one you both means nothing in the English language
#27
Please see the last para. of my post at 14
If Russia were to get base facilities in Argentina then the USA would quickly seek one also. The Falklands would be the ideal spot.
Also, any attack on a NATO member is regarded as as an attack on ALL members who would then be treaty bound to assist the member country under attack. Would Russia contemplate this to help Argentina -I think not.
Also, these are scenarios that are highly unlikely to take place.
A spelling lesson, there is no such word as “whimp” it should be “wimp”
Here endeth the lesson!
Dear SussieUS.
Jun 21st, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Russia will be getting the far better end of this bargain. They won't be helping you fight for your Malvinist ideals on the battle front. Argentina might just get hold of some old MiG 21s and a couple of reverse engineered Sidewinders to replace that knackered boneyard that is the current Argentine air force. Meanwhile CFK is building Argentina into something that is getting closer to the corrupt regimes of it's past. When inflation sky rockets, the pesos value is less than a sheet of toilet paper, you will default on your hire purchase of old Russian military gear, and Russia will be sending the boys round to collect the bill.
Good luck!
@16 ConCONQUEEEER
Jun 21st, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU ARE THE BIGGEST COWARD MAKING THREATS AGAINST MY COUNTRY ARGENTINA ...KNOWING THAT THERE IS A NUCLEAR NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY...SIGNED BY THE UK....YOU ARE A BASTARD
YOUR DEFENSIVE TACTICS DO NOT WORK...YOU HAVE MADE A FOOL
OF YOURSELF ABUSING MY COUNTRY WITH DEROGATIVE COMMENTS
DIE BASTARD......DIE....
@34 sussie
Jun 21st, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know the difference between a nuclear POWERED submarine and a nuclear ARMED submarine? Nuclear weapons could be sent from the North Atlantic.
Brazil are building 7 nuclear powered submarines, are they breaking the non proliferation treaty? Just wondering....
@35 Self-DETERIORATION
Jun 21st, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LET ConQUEEEERRRRR TO ANSWER ME WHY HE KEEPS DEGRADING MY COUNTRY ARGENTINA, ARGENTINIANS AND THE ARGENTINE LEADER...HE IS A COWARD....
@Clyde15
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I do not work for GCHQ”
So if you do not work for your Govt. Com. Headquarters how do you know the access they have and to which sats?
Barabap, barabap Illusion?
But don’t worry here Dany to help you list of jobs available in GCHQ.
1- C++ Tech/12 - C++ T. Specialists Cheltenham Software Engineering
2- FLITS/12 - First Line IT Support Cheltenham IT Service Management
3- LING/1/12 – Linguists Cheltenham Language Operations
Oh! Sorry I’m afraid you don’t qualify for any job Clyde what we gonna do now?
“In another topic you referred to the UK carriers and the fact that the F35 could not be used because they do not have cats.&traps. As per usual, your ignorance of weapons systems has surfaced again. The UK has ordered the STVOL version of this aircraft which takes off and lands without the need of catapults.”
Can you see why you will never become a spy working for MI6?
The F35II (see here the II) was posted by LEPRecon (our local weapon specialist and MoD adviser) on post 7 on this article http://en.mercopress.com/2012/06/20/once-the-pride-of-the-raf-and-rn-the-harriers-sit-at-the-us-boneyard?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=aviso_comentarios#comments
So in reality he is right because was what UK have ordered in the first place but after having a rough quotation about the outfit then when for whatever they can use less say B.
So let’s make an analogy with something simple for everyone. They ordered a Ferrari and after they realised they couldn’t afford the full cost. Now they will have to take option B a FIAT 500 that can take off vertical.
Ha ha
@36 sussie
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You didnt answer the question ,your rantings just make you look stupid.
#37
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not have access to GCHQ as I said. Do you really think they are going to reveal the signals they are intercepting. During the 1982 punch up, the Argentine Navies signals were intercepted and decoded. By by Belgrano.
My age would probably bar me from any employment. I had 40 years in the Civil service, during which I regularly had dealings with warship builders on the Clyde, USN nuclear sub. base at the Holy Loch, military airbases at RAF Leuchars and Lossiemouth and every RAF air base in the UK with access to aircrew and engineering staff.
I have also been in RAF Alconbury having a look at the TR2 spy plane and RAF Mildenhall to see the SR71 in close up - by invite. I would not pretend I had any privy information passed on about their missions but I could glean information on their performance and capabilities.
Back to your ignorance on the F35 . I will try to make it simple for you - please READ attentively.
Labour govt. order 2 carriers to be equipped with the F35B-STVTOL .
Tory govt. tries to cancel carriers and scraps Harriers and Nimrods.
Cost of cancellation as much as building ships - building re-instated.
Worries over problems in development of F35B .
Decide to take F35C option - carrier variant.
Carriers would have to be fitted with catapults and arrestor gear.
Ships under construction would have to be redesigned at huge cost and time lapse.
Original order for F35B re-instated. Back to where we were.
The US Marine Corps are forming their first squadron later this year
Your analogy is utter crap - par for the course.. are you still on dope when you post?
The F35C will have a longer range and heavier payload than the F35B.
In ground attack mode an advantage. In air-to air combat, not so much - advanced missiles coming up will minimise this.
The sensor and data suites on all variants will be basically the same.
This is where the real capability comes. It's not so much its performance but what it can do.
@39Clyde15
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0F35C certainly beats Argentina's 3 40 year old Mirage, 2 Super Entendards,1 Dakota and a Tiger Moth.
Hopefully she told Putin about the Duke of Cambridge and what a threat he posed to the region while he was statoned in the Falklands (it must be so Sean Penn backed her up).
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Putin should know the Duke is back in Europe with his yellow helicopter and so he shouldn't try any funny stuff.
#1 “why else would she mention militarization”
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well because of what Cameron is actually doing perhaps...
@38 Self-DETERIORATION
Jun 22nd, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone who use derogative words against my country Argentina, the female president leader and argentinians are cowards....Please note, most of the viewers can express themselves with others words about the female argentine president....such as “ I don't agree with her decision”...but to call her “turkey neck” “Ketrina” “bitch”, etc. is simple unacceptable. The fact is that Mercosur permits the viewers the use of offensive language is intentionally made to degrade my argentine president, country and argentinians citizens....Other web site don't permit personal insults...this is a fact. Take it or leave it!
43Sussie
Jun 23rd, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You still haven't answered my question.Do you know the difference between a nuclear powered submarine and nuclear armed?For the 3rd time.
#42
Jun 23rd, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could you please give me your definition of “what Cameron is actually doing”. and why this constitutes militarization
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