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Cristina Fernandez receives Wen Jiabao with a long list of requests
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao arrived in Argentina Saturday on an official visit aimed at boosting trade with one of South America's top agricultural producers. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI'm sure that's just what the Chinese want. A desperate leader of a desperate country to start making 'deals' with China.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course these deals will primarily be in China's favour, with CFK being thrown the odd bone to keep her happy. However, I wonder if China will wait out to see how long CFK and her crazy government can hold out against the wrath of the people?
Trade is more than 2to 1 in Chinas favour, I would imagine they want paid in dollars. The YPF situation will make the Chinese very wary of major investment in Argentina.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pan American Energy is 20% Chinese owned I am sure the siege, vandalism and production shut down will be mentioned.
Brazil , Uruguay and Chile looks a safer bet.
Waiting for the positive spin from CFK's propaganda department.
At least,Chinese produce CASH MONEY not loquacity in the media/internet.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I note she will have 'requests' not 'demands' .. thats a change for her.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese have lots of experience working over 3rd world african countries... Argentina will be a breeze.....
Argentina also hopes to draw Chinese investments in its oil industry, after having seized Spanish oil company Repsol's controlling share of YPF, Argentina's largest oil company.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Between this and the fi, shes like one of the undead (zombie) shuffling around only instead of repeating brains over and over its islas malvinas, money for oil!!!
@3.... cash money? dream on... you give them soy... they give you manufactured goods and kill your (crappy) manufacturing base.... and then you give them $$$$$US$$$$
Jun 24th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0They make the rules......
China's abroad investments total (loans,indirect/direct investments) is : 1.812.622 millions US $ (March 2012).
Jun 24th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0China's economy is also failing, their attempt to stimulate it has failed and their property bubble is bursting. I think it has the potential to collapse in on it's self like the former Soviet Union, all the underlings are saying everything is fine, reporting fake numbers up the line so they keep their jobs while the system is actually rotting at the core.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the new Premier will have his hands full for the next few years trying to hold it all together. Which will prove to be impossible. They are due for revolutions soon.
Too much corruption, too many ultra rich and ultra poor for it to survive much longer in it's current form.
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Jun 24th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a ridiculous snide headline for a good news story
Jun 24th, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China with all that US dollar reserves in their bank should be looking to diversifie their portfolio and add more industries while dumping the ever declining US$, more soy anyone, about bio-fuel anyone?? Maybe we can interest China in fishing rights in Islas Malvinas Argentina. If illegal aliens can fish there why couldn't we do it by the books, Maybe China will like the area and we can share the oil reserves with China in exchange for nukes rather then let UK theft it.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 That would be a good trick. As China doesn't have any nuclear-powered carriers. And argieland couldn't afford to run one anyway.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 “China will save us! Help us China, give us money, give us nukes. You can have erm...... Islas Malvinas! ... and soy beans”. :)) Dream on malvinistas, it's not going to happen. Argentina covets the Falklands like China desperately wants Taiwan, but quite sensibly, China won't risk the consequences of attacking Taiwan. I doubt the Chinese, no matter how much squid, oil and soy beans you offer them, are going to hand nukes to a bankrupt banana republic like Argentina to enable it to attack and take over a group of peaceful inhabited islands hundreds of miles across the sea. A group of islands defended by a NATO country.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 And how are things in la-la land, prat-muncher? Here's a couple of fun thoughts for you. For China to supply argieland with nuclear weapons, both China and argieland would be in breach of both the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty AND the Treaty of Tlatelolco. Nations that have also signed both treaties include the UK and the USA.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you keep up with the news, you will have noticed that the UK recently stopped a Russian vessel believed to be transporting Russian attack helicopters to Syria.
Now, how do you think the UK and USA are going to react to the idea of something transporting nuclear weapons to argieland? There are only two options. Air or sea. Both are unlikely. By air, every concerned country along the route will be refusing to have such a transport in their airspace. Countries such as India might even decide to use their air force to force the aircraft to land. By sea it would be even worse. You can imagine the US and Royal Navy's actions. Also action might be taken by the Royal Australian Navy, the Royal New Zealand Navy, the Indian Navy, the South African Navy and so on. So, no, you won't be getting any nukes from China. And here's another thought. How do you fancy your Chinese ship being intercepted by British and American nuclear-powered hunter-killer submarines guided by satellite technology. Thirty years ago, ONE British submarine put paid to the pride of your fleet. Just imagine a British submarine on your Chinese vessel's port quarter and an American one on its starboard quarter. Both fire two torpedoes. I reckon your ship would just disintegrate. Gone. No trace. No survivors. Such a shame how things can just “disappear” at sea. But then you'd know how to make things disappear at sea, wouldn't you?
@11 - Pirat-hunter,
Jun 24th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As posters 12, 13 and 14 have said, you live in cloud cuckoo land.
I would also like to add to Conquerers excellent post that neither Chile or Brazil would allow Argentina to gain nuclear weapons, given the extremely unstable governments you constantly 'elect', and the fact that you've got your greedy eyes on their territory too.
The Brazilian and Chilean navy's would intercept any such cargo, along with the USN and Royal Navy.
Besides, doesn't your precious CFK want South America to be nuclear free?
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Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah BK the tissue man and primate munter on same thread, must be a day off from looney bins on a Sunday
Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 blah blah blah... yes whatever. Yawn.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#13 Islas Malvinas is protected by NATO? Lol they are doing a terrible job at it there is over a thousand illegal aliens illegally occupying and fishing there, as usual white trash will kill somali pirates but don't bother much the white trash in other places, maybe the minorities should start executing white trash everywhere. There should be an open season on white trash. They all have to eat at some point, poison should do the job, when I visit Argentine I am buying a gun and a home close to turist areas, that's my old age plan. Payback is sweeter when done by yourself. Www.narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/brenda-norrell/2012/06/project-gunrunner-media-cant-get-it-right
Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 very impressive, well not actually Atucha 2 build was started in 1981 and has still not come on line (due now mid 2013). Holland have decide to put the building of a new reactor on hold. So you have the ability to orient nuclear technology for weapon purposes, what are you going to use for delivery Condor2 was a massive failure and economicaly unattainable, hence you entered a non-proliferation treaty with Brazil to concentrate all your industry on “peaceful” programs, mind you your not very good at keeping treatys I suppose.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 - Pirat-hunter
Jun 24th, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only illegal aliens that ever set foot on the Falklands was on 2 April 1982.
The proper legal authorities turned up and expelled the illegal Argentine squatters off the islands.
Do you remember that? On 2 April 1982, the people of Argentina celebrating, then on the 14 June 1982, the people of Argentina crying, calling your troops cowards for being beaten by a smaller force that had to travel 8,000 miles.
The humiliation still burns deep doesn't it, PH? Forever shamed, and no amount of crying, shouting and rewriting history will ever wash it away.
In the meantime, your President continues to humiliate Argentina further, now by begging the Chinese for help.
Can you smell the desperation in the air around Buenos Aires, PH? It's thick and cloying, isn't it?
21 LEPRecon
Jun 24th, 2012 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prat-Junta, like a lot of the Malvanistas on here does not LIVE in Argieland. Oh, no, he lives in Canada!
A former British colony is where old Prat-Junta spouts his bollocks from, unless he is back on holiday.
He still does not understand the difference between nuclear powered and armed! At least he has the first part of his tag right.
And as for NATO, just look at the laughable comment @19!
Very fond of executing white trash is Prat-Junta, which probably means he is not white, but I would not be surprised if he did not count himself in the execution.
#15 “Besides, doesn't your precious CFK want South America to be nuclear free?”
Jun 24th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed she does, she's such a peaceful leader, unlike Cameron
Tissue BK?
Jun 24th, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CHINA a land of mystique
Jun 24th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CHINA
Will give you money,
Money buys power,
Power buys influence
Influence controls the debtor.
CFK may well think she is clever with the west,
But little old CHINA is not the west, and not stupid,
As the Argentinean people will surely find out .
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Jun 24th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK's requests to Wen Jiabao
Jun 24th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK. Import more of our soy and corn
WJ. NO
CFK. Invest in our oil industry
WJ. NO
CFK. Invest in our rail network
WJ. NO
CFK. Then please sell us some nuclear weapons
WJ. No fluckin chance
CFK. Then please help us beat those nasty Brits and get back the Malvinas Islands
WJ. NO Flight your own Fluckin battles losers
WJ. Can I have some more Flied Lice?
CFK. NO
MEETING OVER
the crap comments by “ made in china ” computers.!
Jun 24th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no mention in Mercopress of the Pan American Energy situation at Cerro Dragon. Major story, gas pipeline shut down, its snowing in Patagonia brrrrrr,15% of Argentinas oil is refined here.More imports.
Jun 24th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this news management because the Chinese are here?
@21 LEPRecon
Jun 24th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't forget the “illegal aliens” that arrived in the Islands in 1832, in the first attempt by Argentina to impose its soverignty on the Falklands.
Same result as the second attempt.
I'll look forward to hearing some feedback on the meetings Wen Jiabao had in Argentina and then in Chile. Will CFK get the investment she desperately needs?
Jun 24th, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, has anyone heard from Marcos Alejandro on these threads today? I wonder what's happened. I think he lives in Stanley so maybe he is having second thoughts about slamming us on here whilst living amongst us. Maybe his wife has banned him from the computer because she realises what he is doing would not be good for their family if found out. Or maybe he hasn't even got a computer and relies on one at work and isn't working today. FIC, I wonder? Although I can't imagine Spinky would allow his staff internet access. Maybe he's at MPC? Or maybe he has morphed into another character once again. Perhaps MalvinasArgentinas?
@29
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Amazing... how come nothing in BA Herald or Mercopress??
http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/06/22/protest-cripples-pan-american-energy-argentina-oil-gas-output/
@8 Yankeeboy
Jun 25th, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You clearly know nothing about China or how she works other than what you read in the western press! try living here and doing business here, then perhaps you could make a half decent comment!
Interesting about Cerro Dragon.... protesters destroy the means of production... bang bang ..shot themseves in both feet.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems its owned 60% BP...10% Chinese.... guess the government will just steal the 60% in the name of national security.....
Loooooooooooooong list of “requests”? Did l hear that right?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Requests & NOT “demands”.
Come, come, madame le President(not good enough to be a “la”), assert yourself.
“We want l million Chinese troops with Naval & Air support, to take over the Falklands, err malvinas, by tomorrow”.
No, Mr Wen, we don't want them to stay on afterwards.
“Thats part of the deal?”
“Then we don't want them, afterall”.
Too late, lady. Far, far too late.
Get used to it.
33. You have your opinion and I have mine. I'm usually right though.....
Jun 25th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh dear China is up to the same tricks it has been using in resource rich African countires for years. They offer to build infrastrucure (must of it extreimly poorly build and not maintained) in return for resoruce concessions mainly metals (i.e. mining). they often then bring in huge numebrs of chineese to work these concessions thereby denying the local people the jobs. If you dont believe me look, China is the worlds biggest copper exporter yet has no copper depsoits in its country.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please Argentina do not become another country in the back pocket of China. Fair investment yes, Chineese colonisation by the back door, no.
@35
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina knows all about colonisation,thats how it came into existence. CFKs desperate government is selling the family silver.
Waiting on the big announcement on oil & manufacturing today ,wonder if YPF will get their $35billion?
34 Frank (#)
Jun 25th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 25th, 2012 - 03:07 am
I believe the Chinese stake in Pan American Energy is 20%, the violence at Cerro Dragón is rather a slap in the face for the Chinese PM.
Also Cerro Dragón produces about 60% of the natural gas injected in the pipeline to Esquel, Trevelin, El Bolsón, Bariloche, this is a bad scene for winter tourism.
Just how many times does Argentina plan to shoot itself in the foot?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0depends on how many feet she has lolol
Jun 25th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39.... yep 20%.. a typo only picked up after posting...
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 40 Argentina ... the south american centipede....
Latest news from Pan American is military police have control of plant,but protesters are blocking access roads, no company staff access, still no production.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why no update in Mercopress,BAH ,Clarin or La Nation? This very serious situation has been going on for 5 DAYS !!! with only the briefest of mentions in Clarin & La Nacion.
The news media is being controlled ,getting more like 1930s Germany everyday.
Yankee
Jun 26th, 2012 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You been to china?
@43... it was buried in the 'subscription only ' bit of the BA Herald.... yep.... pretty scary.... for the RGs...
Jun 26th, 2012 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0for me? ... popcorn and beer time....
China can trade a lot of things with Argentina, we all know that both counties have a lot to offer each other, something many people here seem to overlook. And I don't think it the Chinese, Would anyone care to guess the nationality of all this quacks ??
Jun 27th, 2012 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@46 Pirat-Hunter,
Jun 27th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ducks?
@46 -PH
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, and China has US$8 billion more to trade with Argentina than vice-versa. Hardly an equitable arrangement is it?
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