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Auto industry production in Argentina continued to slow down in June

Friday, July 6th 2012 - 07:04 UTC
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Argentine automobile production fell 12% in June from the previous month and plunged 34.4% from a year earlier, according to an industry trade group. The auto industry produced 52,983 vehicles in June compared with 60,206 units in the previous month and 80,795 a year earlier. Read full article

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  • Welsh Wizard

    Pretty brutal figures coming out here. Interesting, as they are a direct result of “the model”...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    1
    All in line with reducing the over-consumption...
    Just continue your road to wherever you are heading to, just don't count on us following your lead, nor on using our resources for achieving it.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self Determination

    The fruits of protectionism, - short term gain , long term fail.
    Brazil and Mexico are very unhappy at Argentinas behaviour.
    Basic economics dictate the smaller the production run the higher the unit costs.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @2

    Oh, so this slow is purposeful on teh part of the government, they want the motor industry output to fall this much. Surely they want to increase exports...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Oh how is wish Ogara was here so I can say I told you so...
    Cars and Soy are their only real exports, cars are done and the soy harvest was abysmal.
    Where does she go from here...fmm print print print
    depreciation to 8/1 but I don't think it will hold and may end up at 16/1 when the panic runs out.
    hyperinflation
    go buy sugar/coffee/laundry detergent my RGs friends...you'll need it for barter soon enough.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    2 Guzz (#)

    Did I miss something, “over-consumption”?????

    Kretina's “model” calls for higher internal consumption!!!!

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    720.000 vehicle production /year is highly achievement for Argentina

    they are able to pass Italy over in the near future.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AmericanLight

    Best selling cars in America: F150, Toyota Camry ....both nicely equipped
    Best selling cars in Argentina: Chevrolet Classic: equipped with 4 wheels and A steering wheel.... Followed by a horse and cart to go “cartonear”

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    The surprise in the this article is the 8.9% of RG car exports go to Europe!!!

    Where the fahook in Europe are these cars going???

    My wife drives an RG made 206 – cheap and cheerful and just ok in a dry climate like we have here.
    But under the hood there is nothing that would comply with European standards.

    Does anyone know the destination of these vehicles?
    I am guessing they are going to Europe for re-export to north Africa.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They are going to the middleeast....their's keep blowing up. What else can one use an RG car for? AN over sized paperweight?

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    The only RG built vehice I can think of that might comply with EU regs is the Toyota Hilux / Fortuner.
    Anybody know?

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AmericanLight

    They are probably exported to be used by terrorist nations....look at the pictures of those dumps and you will see they drive similar garbage that you see in BA....
    Cars without A/C...Power steering is optional....no power windows...no air bags...no antilock brakes...automatic? what is that? Last person from BA I asked about those features they said they drive like men, with no Power Steering or Auto transmission...douche bags...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You only arouse yourselves with all your talk about your fancy cars and superior way of living. Nobody wants to follow your example, we have watched you folks, and decided your path is tried, tested and declared a failure

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Seeing as the subject of the article is the argie auto industry, what do you drive, Guzz? Assuming you're old enough! Don't be shy. We won't laugh....much! But make sure you can back it up!
    @2 Avoiding over-consumption is great in the auto industry. Especially if you don't have the money to buy the oil to turn into petrol.
    @7 OK. You've managed to screw/bolt a few cars together. Have you actually sold them?

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MistyThink

    I have driven 16 brands kinds vehicles (cars,little trucks,off-roads,truck)
    in my life except korean ones.

    all american vehicles are sleazy,

    all italian cars are sleazy,

    some french cars are sleazy,

    few german cars are sleazy,

    none japan cars are sleazy.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I drive Toyota, Conq. It's cheap and reliable...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MistyThink

    Toyotas are very secured but not cheap.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Well, my next car is an Uruguayan built chinese car, whatever its name :)

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Guzz, The USA has over 1MM immigrants a year. Do you think they risk life limb and fortune if our path is a failure?

    You say some very ignorant things I doubt you even believe 1/2 of what you post.

    Uruguayan made Chinese vehicle...I wouldn't put that in any of the marketing material.
    hahahaa

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    of those 1M immigrants a year, the vast majority is mexicans, enough said :)

    Your idea of a car is something that brings you status, mine is a mean to move from A to B (and I still have my extra equipment when I leave the car, as opposed to you :) )

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Mexican...that's not true they only make up 1/5 of the total no where near a majority for those of you that can't do simple math...Guzz I am speaking to you.
    All eco idiots and socialists (poor people) always say the same thing about cars. Oh i drive it to get from a to b...blah blah no you drive it because you are poor and can't get anything decent.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You really want us to share your values of life, don't you? Is it so you can feel happiness finally? To feel you accomplished something useful with your life?

    I could not care less about any car, when I'm surrounded by people, having a go at the parrilla, walking the rambla or having a game at the beach, I don't bloody ask people what car they drive,nor do I flash my wheels :)

    Keep your fancy cars and monuments to grandeur, we neither want or need anything from you, except a quick glance when we are unsure of what NOT to do...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MistyThink

    18
    could be -- Chéry -- !

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    There is no one I ever met more jealous than a South American.

    Why do you think rich people have to live behind 12 walls with private guards on public roads? It's not the inequity, it's the hopelessness, it is because they know that because of the corruptions etc that they can not and will not ever have a chance to get rich unless they take it.
    That's why so many try to move to USA or UK they WANT OUR WAY OF LIFE, they see the advantages of our system and they WANT IT for themselves and their children.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Tell that to all the expats in here :)

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    10s or even 100s of thousands from countries of 100s of millions of people is a very small overall % of people. Certainly pales in comparison to the amount of immigrants we get from south of the boarder.
    Depending on where you live it is MUCH cheaper. When I lived there I had 5 full time people helping me at my house. Unless you are VERY wealthy that is not possible in a 1st world northern country.
    Plus expats rarely live on the in-country currency. They aren't going there to make their fortune they are going there to spend it (retirement)
    Not quite the same
    try again
    brr

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Only reason you would need 5 full time people helping you is if you are bloody useless yourself... Says more about you than any country in SA...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AmericanLight

    In most of the US, if you do not have a car, your feet hurt....plain and simple
    I drive 60 miles one way to work....
    the car has to be reliable. It is not about being fancy or anything like that .....American's love affair with the automobile is a good example of a country that works....when Henry Ford implemented the assemble line, he ensured that his employees were able to buy what they manufactured... yes people may in debt up to their eyeballs with cars, but they do enjoy them, they help the economy keep turning....
    A coworker of mine bought a $95,000 BMW 745i 3 weeks ago, and I told her she was nuts, but in the end she worked hard for it and she deserves
    it. Average American car for sale is in the mid 20s...it s achievable so feet will not hurt.... Of course there are people who cannot make it happen and of course those who abuse the system and do not want to make it happen (ie: Foodstamps forever, Coming to your business so you can lie for them that they are looking for a job, where s my baby's daddy, etc)
    It what the American Dream is all about....progress
    Yankeeboy: I agree with the helping people...nowadays you can get 10 dollars an hour working for Mc Donalds, most people wont work for less than that (In Midland Mc D is playing 15-18 an hour for starters due to the oil business taking the help)

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Americanlight
    I remember you... You are not as abusive as your fellow countrymen here, so I will try to hold the sarcasm back...
    In our society we have a love affair with football, candombe, murga, parrillas and families (not literally :) ). Small things in life that don't cost us a lot, but gives us joy, happiness and a will to continue making our short time here as pleasant as possible.
    No car on earth can give me the same satisfaction, actually, no material thing at all makes me feel the joy I feel when surrounded by my people, regardless origin.
    I'm not saying you should change your way of living to try it, and if your car makes you happy, good for you, enjoy it.

    But I wont accept that someone else tells me what and where I find my happiness, especially a person that has no human or environmental values, like your countryman yanquiboy...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I am glad that you are one with your horrible existence. It makes it easier to accept your lot in life. It is also why most SA are considered lazy.

    You shun progress, want for nothing and expect other people to create things for you. It is actually a sad way of life and mostly why those types of societies have died out. Usually died at the hands of more progressive and innovated people I may add,

    You should read some history...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    yanqui
    I must say, with you, your mother missed out on THE abortion of the century...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Sorry guys, find it hard to be happy, if that is the right word, about this story. Probably means that people will lose their jobs, no matter who they are, no matter how much we disagrre, they work for their family, just like I did and still do.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    29 Guzz,
    Love of cars and technology does not exclude one from loving the more important things in life.
    I love cars and I particularly enjoy being able to take my children to the amazing national parks we have here...something I could not do in the Suzuki swift I used to drive as a younger...freer man.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    That's very honourable of you RC, a bit out of character of what I know of you, but very unselfish indeed. Will try to remember that in my sarcasm management, for what it counts...

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Yes, well said Reality.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I will argue with you that black is white and night is day, because I disagrre with your views on most subjects on here.. There is not a single thing honourable about holding the opinion that every person has the right to support his or her family from the fruits of their labour.

    Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I know you would disagree in just about anything I say, and you know I would dis-disagree :)
    When you drop your insults, you are quite a smart lad. I come from another culture entirely, mayhap that's the origin of our different views. If I told you my story, you would probably disagree as well, but the fact is it is all down to morals.
    As I said, a bit out of character of what I know of you, but obviously, I know know a little bit more...

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AmericanLight

    Guzz:
    Thanks for your answer. I am not a materialistic person. I just have a few things that I purchased with my hard work, same than other people.
    The people I know from Argentina do not agree much with your views. They are very humble, yes and care about family, but they gave me their opinions and wanted to share them with you.

    soccer (or like you call it football): Boca, Boca , Boquita, Gallinas putas. But Majority of them only care about it during the world cup.
    candombe, murga: Cosa de negros
    parrillas: Every sunday, bbq.
    familias: very important.
    So about 2/4 ...

    We care about our families in the US, we are not cold freezers. I agree that some of our people are ignorant (They graduated high school but dont get it that when is summer here it is winter there, etc etc etc), but your country has its fair share this kind of people (I saw then when I was there years ago and I will probably see them again (hope not) when I come visit next week)....

    Thanks

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Well friend, I think the missing 2 are a result of the fact that I am Uruguayan

    football: SOY CELESTE :)
    candombe, murga: Carnaval!
    parrillas: Opportunity to gather the troops :)
    familia: the framework

    I'm quite sure I would find a great majority of kind people in the USA, if I approach them kindly. Unfortunately we do generalize, and our commitment to our different societies don't always allow us to share common views.

    Hopefully you'll visit my country one day, I might not be there to recieve you, but I trust my countrymen to do a good job :)

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @37Guzz.
    Yes I do disagree with just about everything you say on here. However, I am intelligent enough to realise, that your opinions are your own and are formulated and influenced by your own experiences. I am also intelligent enough to understand, that nothing I our anything anyone else says will alter those opinions. That goes for people on both sides of our arguements, does make you wonder why we try in the first instance? does it not?

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Guzz:

    Just to tell you that after saving for 30 years I managed to buy my very first 0Km.
    After a lot of thought I decided on a Renault Stepway, because of it being high off the ground.
    Unfortunately, though it is very well made, it was made in Brasil, because of Mr. Moreno's mad policies of limiting imports, I can't get tyres, or any spares for my car.
    I guess that is a sob story, its kind of hard on me, but the people who have been really hurt by this ridiculous man are the Renault Argentina workers who have been laid off, all 3600 of them...
    Great work by a “left wing” government!!!!

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I can only defend protectionism, if you improce your own production while at it, but Argentina has some debts to pay, and I think it's a responsable thing to do. That said, I am sorry for your limited options

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Oh Simon, truly the Argentines have the ability to assemble good quality cars and trucks, but a recent study showed the VW Amarok pickup trucks assembled in Germany had lower TOTAL labor cost per unit than the ones I'm Mendoza. VW is rapidly ramping up European production as they see the situation in Argentina worsening. ...and the band on the sloping deck kept playing on...

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @Chicureo
    Saludo hombre. No google this time hope I got it right.
    Like you comparison to the Titanic Apt description, full speed ahead and damn the consequences.

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    By the way “I'm” should have been “in”: TYPO

    RC: The Argentinian workers are their own worst enemies. Same as in Italy.
    The reason for earlier great auto sales was because people were buying cars against hyper inflation. In Chile we notice that there are still Argentines buying goods here like there is no tomorrow. Where they get the money is uncertain, but they are buying like crazy.
    Chile's economy has been slowing down, but we remain very confident in our economy as does Peru. Columbia is doing well and Brazil is taking measures to fight their current slowing. Almost everyone here is convinced that Argentina is heading into an economic hell. My best regards as well.

    Jul 07th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @30

    A sadder way of life is pitching in “progress” for 30 years and waking up to realize you are now pushing 60 and what did you enjoy of your family, of the world, of mother nature? Nothing.

    I will give you this much however, everything comes at a cost. You get to pompously brag here about how Europe, UK, USA “progress”, at the cost of your own personal/family lives.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwjNBjqR-c

    Life in the 1st world... sad folk.

    Jul 08th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Ironically, it is the developing world, not the first world that put in the long hours these days.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18144320

    Jul 09th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Maybe they could nationalise the auto-industry =)

    Jul 11th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @48
    hahahahahahahaha
    Have you seen that Venezuelan state made car?

    Jul 11th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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