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Boom year for the Falklands’ tourism industry propped by the war’s anniversary

Thursday, July 12th 2012 - 07:23 UTC
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Tourist arrivals to the Falkland Islands are expected to increase by 14.9% in 2012, with a significant 28.8% jump in the number of leisure visitors, mainly driven by the 30th anniversary of the Falklands War. Read full article

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  • Doveoverdover

    Falkland Islands - the Premier tourist destination in the South Atlantic.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands are British

    Rockhopper Exploration plc
    (“Rockhopper” or the “Company”)

    Farm-out agreement signed with Premier Oil plc

    Rockhopper, the North Falkland Basin oil and gas company, is pleased to announce that it has entered into a conditional farm-out agreement with Premier Oil plc (“Premier”), regarding the Company's interests in its petroleum licences in the North Falkland Basin (the “Transaction”).

    Highlights of the Transaction

    · Premier to acquire 60 per cent. of Rockhopper's interests in its North Falkland Basin licences

    o US$231 million upfront cash payment on completion of transaction

    o US$722 million Sea Lion development carry (net to Rockhopper)

    o US$48 million exploration carry (net to Rockhopper)

    · Premier to provide standby financing arrangement at Rockhopper's election to cover any additional development capex beyond the development carry of US$722 million

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    A positive story of economic success from south america, how unusual! English speaking with a strong northern european work ethic, unlike their lazy self-serving corrupt gaucho neighbours. They hate the Islanders because they make them look like amateurs.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    Having your big neighbour constantly threatening your people, harass you and attempt to introduce economic blockades against you is clearly a great motivator.

    It is becomming clear that the outcome of the Mad Botox Woman's campaign against the Falkland Islands people is producing effects completely opposite those desired or dreamed of by MBW.

    Argentinas attempt at colonisation of its succesful neighbours is falling flat on its arse.

    How sad.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Doveoverdover
    “Falkland Islands - the Premier tourist destination in the South Atlantic.”???????

    “In total, 7.635 overnight visitors are expected to visit the Islands in 2012”

    Wow! That reaaaaaly is huge amount. Doesn’t it?

    @Britworker

    “English speaking with a strong northern european work ethic”????
    Are you talking about???
    Germans perhaps????

    Brits are lazy and incompetents. Sorry but someone have to tell you the truth.

    “They hate the Islanders because they make them look like amateurs.”
    Sorry to hurt your feelings but I guess the only one paying attention to Islanders or British may be they are all in this forum.

    Btw do you import arrogance from little Britain or just comes with the language??? just curious

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    We are just stating what is happening.

    The Argentines winge, bully, and corrupt history=bugger all effect.

    The Falklands make slow but steady progressand show the rest of South America how a country is properly run-with a liitle help from the UK in the form of defence against the Argetnines governments corrupt beligerence.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Dany seems a bit upset today. We can be arrogant when we have little toothless puppies like Argentina snapping around our heels.

    Note 7,600 overseas visitors is enormous when the population to finance is only C.3000

    That would be roughly the equivalent to 100,000,000 tourists to Argentina

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Yes Danny. RKH and PMO are really lazy incompetent British companies that are going to deliver first oil from the Falkland Islands in H1 2017.

    So much for Argentina getting in the way.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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    7 Idlehands

    Dany certainly is. Although all his type always post uninformed, unsubstantiated crap in response to any good news that comes out about the British Falklands. What else can they do though when so much good news is coming out?

    He or one of his mates will be telling us next that the oil bit is all a big conspiracy. This usually happens when some long established, successful and experienced company invests a few hundred million in the British Falklands industries.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nightingale

    I touch of jealousy from our RG contributor..wonderful .. :))

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @2

    Good news. That'll bring on a particularly loud wailing, gnashing of teeth and rattling of empty sabres from Argentina, lets's see how many 'eeengleesh pirats' sort of comments there from them.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    The overnight visitor numbers are 2.5 times the population of the islands, the equivalent of Argentina having 100 million visitors. So, yes, it does make the rest of the continent look bad.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #5
    Maybe the tourists feel safer when visiting the Falklands as opposed to the Argentine.? Just a thought.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Small Acorns,

    Beaches , piers , seafront entertainments , fruit machines , bingo , kiss me quick hats,
    Fish and chips ,

    Hey come on, anything is possible,
    The future looks bright ,

    And the envious are queuing up.

    Is this not partly true .

    .

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    I'd be very surprised if you could find 7600 argentines who would do anything other than just visit the Falklands, let alone live there to draw in other tourists: i'm sure lots would say they would, doubt many have the work or social ethic for it though. RG Gov try to spin it as some Avalon Isle, they'd get a big surprise methinks.

    Argentine GOv~ approach to the Falklands is all wrong anyway. Kirchner is trying to persuade the whole world that Argentina should have the Falklands even though history says otherwise and there is already a People living there; instead all she ACTUALLY needs to do is convince 3000 Falklands Islanders.

    Surely any Argentine with an ounce of intelligence has to wonder why she is taking the “Persuade 6.8 billion people” is easier than “Persuade 3000 people” approach?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    15 Anbar

    I'd suggest it is about Argentine pride. They dream of being able to take the Falklands in a “told you so” manner and somehow win a war in which the Falklands conflict was merely a battle lost.

    You've gotta feel a bit sorry for them really.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    UK company strikes US$1 billion deal to pump oil in the Falklands
    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105957/uk-company-strikes-ushttp-billion-deal-to-pump-oil-in-malvinas

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    Well done to the Falklanders another example of how a small community can manage themselves and be succesful at it. Also it looks like Argentine interference has had no effect on Premier Oil purchasing the major stake in the Sea Lion gas field.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105957/uk-company-strikes-ushttp-billion-deal-to-pump-oil-in-malvinas

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Ha ha ha

    I've never saw people so happy for little things like this.
    Are you always so optimist or is just that you never have nothing to happy about?

    Because after 200 years and I don't remember how many generations your progress have been so poor.

    Have you realised that you have the little GDP in the whole western Hemisphere?

    How long will take to see any type of civilised world there? another 200 years perhaps? ha ha

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Anyone know where Dany is banging on about? Can't be the Falklands as they have one of the highest GDP per capita in the whole world.

    I'm guessing he was addressing another Argentine?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @19

    Well not really no. UK has 8th LArgest GDP in the world (tip: that is why it is in the G8)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)

    Try again with a new argument.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    19 DanyBerger (#)

    Dany, the GDP per capita of the FI is #7 with a value of US$55.400 (2002), the GDP per capita of Argentina is #51 with a value of US$17.376 (2011).

    The fact that the FI had a GDP of US$75 million in 2005 and has a negative government debt of £14 million is pretty amazing, sounds like very good administration. CFK should ask the FIG for lessons!!!!

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    DannyB - we have already received over 200 press and media visitors from all over the worl earlier this year - all spending money here - why? - because your clever President made a big fuss - and the world press got interested in finding out the TRUE story!! FI Tourism says a BIG BIG Thankyou to your President!
    FI Govt and peaople also say a BIG thankyou Cristina because now the world is learning that there are TWO sides to the story and PEOPLE are involved - and it has not cost us a penny - and we have made money from it!! Double win!!

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @22 with those numbers the FI is actually the worlds 3rd largest GDP by capita displacing Norway into 4th spot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @19
    “How long will take to see any type of civilised world there? another 200 years perhaps? ha ha”

    Come and see if you want, you'll find we're pretty civilised Danny.
    Unless you mean the trappings of civilisation like Shitty fast food franchises, shanty towns, slums, homelessness, street crime, pollution and so on, if you're looking for that sort of civilisation then yes you'll find us very uncivilised.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands are British

    A disclosure from British_Kirchnerist (#)

    To those wondering how I got to type Chavez the Spanish way, I was cutting and pasting! No smoking gun here

    It seems he had difficulties remembering the spelling of Chavez's name (all 6 letters), notwithstanding the fact that he had copied and pasted the name many times either (all from English websites) and the spelling of the name was directly in front of him as he was writing, on this occasion, and struggling with the spelling AGAIN, he decided to change his computer settings to seek out a Spanish website to copy from and finish off his brief posting.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    I'm sure the tourists always chosen first as destination Las Malvinas and great English civilization implanted there and Americans are not recognized as us. Probably not interested in knowing a barbarous country like Argentina, are not interested by the waterfalls of Iguazú (One of the new Natural Wonders of the world) nor by Mount Aconcagua (highest mountain of America), nor for its beaches Atlantic coast. I have the certainty that Europeans go on holiday when you want to know a place where you will find the same weather and dry fio that exists in their continent, of course that place is Las Malvinas. In dreams also live ..

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    27 Xavi

    NO

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @27 But with rising inflation and devaluation of the pesos against the doller Argentina is becoming more and more expensive for foreign vistors therefore they are shunning Argentina and spending more time in neigbouring countries.

    I agree Argentina is a beautiful country I have spent a lot of time travelling here but it is becoming more and more expensive especially internal flights, accomodation and food. This time last year I was able to get a night in a chain brand hotel in BsAs for around $120 US a night now the same hotel for the same dates is now around $150 US a night. It is simple economics that high inflation and a low strength peso will discourage tourists. tourists are also getting annoyed over the difficulties of selling back pesos they have not used when leaving the country.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands are British

    29 Engineer

    Understand you live there. What about all of the crime and violence?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    I mean honestly, genuinely believe that English civilization is superior to any civilization that exists here in this part of the world. I am strongly against my government if their intention is to want to colonize, I see no reason to be Argentine. Duty to remain British and endpoint. Now the question of territory is another level of discussion and is in you living under flag of Argentina or return to their country of origin.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    31 Xavi

    Are being a little contentious here? You are not getting the territory and it never belonged to you. Is that OK?

    Just listen to that superior English (Chile, NZ, Australia, Canada, Argentina etc. etc. etc.) civilisation that lives across the pond from you.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    @27 Inflation is in Pesos but not in dollars. Dollars continue to be one of the cheapest destinations in the world.

    @ 29 Violence and crime exists in any large country in the world, or does not live London recently a wave of looting or riots? if you have no violence or crime rates is because they are as a community very, very small.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “Violence and crime exists in any large country in the world”

    could not agree more, and I've been to most of them.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    33 Xavi

    Issues in London were different and a lot of people are now in prison. There seems to be a lot of disenfranchised people in the world at the moment. Sad to see the picture, circulating the world, of the Spanish lady bleeding from head wounds and as a result of crack from a Policeman's baton.

    I was talking about personal crime. Saw a survey from an University that claimed that 1 in 3 families of students had suffered in Argentina.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @30

    I dont live in Bs As so I escape the majority of the crime issues which do seem to be concentrated around the principal cities. I live in a fairly small city just north of Mendoza and as such I have not been affected personally.

    What I can tell you is there is a real perception of high crime here. Many shops will require you to put bags, purse etc into a locker or to a securoty guard before you enter a shop and there are a huge number of police everywhere. We are constantly being warned by our Argentine friends that crime is a problem and to be careful. Many of the houses have bars on windows and doors (although this is just as likely to be a result of Spanish building styles).

    Sorry I cant be of any more help Im sure someone who has spent more time on the major cities could tell you more. There is a big problem with grafitti thought which is not cleaned off, in fact the political parties grafiti political slogons all over any building they can get their hands on.

    @31 but many of the islanders have been lived in the UK they were born on the islanders. Your argument is the same as insiting that Argentina belongs to the pre collumbian natives and all European settlers desendents should return to Germany, Italy, Spain, Wales, Scotland, UK, Eastern Europe even they were never born there.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    36 Engineer

    I have a friends from Salta. The closest has nothing nice to say about this side of life., in particular theft. She has told me that at every opportunity, this will occur. Nothing can be left out unattended for a moment.

    I shouldn't say this but a child (young teenager) from where I live was killed by a drunken Argentinian policeman (hit by a car) whilst he was on a rugby tour with his school in BA. You might have read about the story.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    Whenever we analyze the issue of crime is to look at the context. If you go to any African country is obvious to expect a high rate of violence. To find out how safe is Argentina's you compare it with its neighbors and not with the more developed European countries. Tourism in Iguassu Falls is a test case, being on the Brazilian border tourists can watch from either side, but 70% choose it from the Argentine side and that is no accident. Since Brazil does not seem to give foreigners a better sense of security than Argentina.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    38 Xavi

    Relativity does not seem to be the point when you are being robbed and beaten up whether in Brasil or Argentina and after paying for a holiday. I understand what you mean though.

    I am sure that Iguassu Falls are spectacular and will have a look for some videos on the internet.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @37

    I have just returned from a long weekend in Salta and I must admit it did seem a little less secure. It is so far the only palce I have found in Argentina with large groups of young men hanging around, insulting others and openly drinking on the street. As for theft I agree that if I did leave things unattended they would be gone. I do not leave my bike outside my flat without being locked to the railings.

    The police here in Argentina do actualy scare me the majority seem to be very young (late teens early 20s) and all carry out firearms without what appears to be very muhc training in their use. My wife saw a young female officer lifting her pistol up with thumb and forefinger by the trigger guard before dropping it on the floor, thank god it didnt go off. I frequently see low level traffic crime (not wearing setabelts, speeding, going througth red lights, ignoring pedestrians, motorcycle helmets not being worn) being ingored by policemen at the side of the street.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @27

    You're correct, in terms of geographical attractions the Falklands cannot hold a candle to the large countries in the continent....yet our tourist industry, though tiny compared to the those on the continent, just keeps on growing, fast. Why don't you ask yourself why that is?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @38

    I would guess (having been to the cataratas de Iguazu) that the real reason 70% of tourists view them from the Argentine side is:

    a) The falls themselves are in Argentina, you get a nice view from the Braziallian side but it does not compare in beauty to the Argentina side.

    b) US citizens ( making up a large proprtion of tourists to Iguazu) need visas to cross into Brazil.

    c) The Argebtine parque nacional is prettier and better organised.

    Incidentily the whole area of north Missiones is very geared up for Tourists and as such crime is very low. The city of Iguazu is also small when compared to Mendoza, BsAs and Bariloche so you would expect crime to be smaller.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    @41 If so I wonder why and the answer I find is this: It curioro for tourists to find a native English community in Europe so far, what are these people doing here so far from home? Since we do not identify with any Americans and are not considered as such. It's a nice community to do a sociological study. Another argument there.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    40 Engineer

    My friend spends all of her time in Europe and has stayed at my house on many occasions over the last 8 years. I have seen many pictures and the advertisement for (I think) Chivas Regal was made their. The Centre and Cathedral seem pretty and she keeps telling me to visit.

    Rarely have we have spoken about the Falklands but she has no issues at all with it being British. She is very bright and no-one could brainwash her (she is far too clever). Her favorite country is England although her ancestry (a long time ago, but typically, has an European passport) is Italian.

    She recalls a story that her great grandmother always told her that if the country had been colonized by the British and she has indigenous blood, the country would have been properly governed.

    (awaiting the howls)

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    @ 41
    The referendum to undertake next year to ask? If you wish to remain British, so right? Do not ask if Americans want to be independent, right? Well then the British living in Britain belong to Europe. Now ask anyone in this part of the world and proudly tell them that it is American, is something you do not feel as their own and do not blame them. So I defend to remain British and as such are entitled to citizenship shame that this country refuses to provide a piece of his land to return. Again, British civilization is much better than ours would be nice to live fully in any town in England and not here in the ass of the world.

    @42 I share your opinion ..

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @44 It doesnt come as a surpise to me. On the whole I am never confronted about the fact that I am British and on the whole people take a genuine intrest in the fact that I am British but living in Argentina. On many occasions they do ask por que in that kind of suprised way.

    The argentines I am close to are all anti peronists and many do not care about the FI/IM what they really care about is the economy, what they do agree on is that CFK is using the wrong tactics to try and the islands.

    Many Argentines hold dual nationality with either Spain or Italy. Was her grandmother a Poteño by any chance? They are the most angloised of the Argentines and many do not relaise that the majority of Argentine infrastructure and especialy in BsAs was built by the British Merchants who set up in BsAs in order to undermine Spanish trade (at the time the Proviences of the Rio Plate were part of the viceroyalty of Peru, and all trade had to go throgth Lima). It was this trading that brought money into Argentina and helped them build the armies and show them that they could be independent of Spnaish rule than set about the chnage of events that lead to the revolution, unfortuantly this side is very rarely taught in Argetnine schools.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    44 Falklands are British (#)

    No howls, a lot of Argentines, principally in Buenos Aires say that the worst thing that ever happened to Argentina was to beat the British invasions of 1806 and 1807.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @47

    Porteños are smart cookies lol. What most people do not relaise is that the anti British sentiment was constructed in the 1940s by Peron to nationise many of the buisness in Argentina which were run by Brits. It is ever since this point that Sucessive Peronist governments have continued with the anti-british sentiment in order to woe voters. However, I believe teaching a political motivated history in schools is wholy wrong and deplorable. The oppurtunity for good relations between Argentina and the UK are there and we have a long history of good relations but unfortuantly the Peronist governments need a scape goat.

    By the way it seems very civillised on the forum today.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    No monies, no class.
    My home town of Comodoro Rivadavia has a 5 star Hotel, the Luciana Palazzo, the best of all.
    Just seeing the picture these people don't have good taste on clothes.
    They look so passe!.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    46 Engineer

    She really is a citizen of the world and has lived everywhere.

    On the economy, she has two brothers who live in Spain purely for economic reasons. They cannot find decent work in Salta but miss the life and family terribly. Sad really.

    I cannot answer your question. Salta is near a couple of borders I believe and understand that there are cross overs by the original inhabitants.

    I know a little about the early history of the country and Britain's involvement up to around the 1920s. The massive investments. The building of the infrastructure (rail networks and so on) and indeed BA. The tiny population at that time (10 fold now)

    Irony given the criticism of the British Empire on this site that all of the money came from trade within the Empire (theft not trade if you ask our friends).

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @49

    CLASS? COMODORO? Are you quite sure it is a town built on the back of hydro carbon exploration and has a number of abaondoned cosntruction projects including the stadium as the city ran out of money. Theres a casinos and thats about it. It may have a 10 storey hotel but this was build prodomently for buisness men who come in and out of Comodora as a way of travelling further south to the mining concesions in Santa Cruz and the hydro carbons. Comodors is not a classy place and neither is it a holiday destination.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands are British

    Tut tut Sussie.

    So it is true that you are a 4 foot tall wicked dwarf then?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @ 51 Engineer Lost
    How about the restaurant around the costanera? Best lobster thermidor in town. How about my hairdresser Marconi trained in Paris?
    How about Rada Tilly and its night clubs?
    How about the Torraca apartments on Calle Almirante Brown?
    Can you find all these in the Islands? No
    Accept the facts. The islanders don't have money, no class.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    49 SussieUS
    Only 5*****

    Boy we have 9 and 10 stars over here,..

    You know we will never convince these brainwashed people, exactly what indoctrination is, as long as they are not willing to listen to the truth,

    Then may we suggest,
    That everybody goes back to square one, before the Europeans started out to explore and conquered the world,
    And that way, we can all start again,

    Say the 1300s or 14th century to Argies,
    So if you all go back to where you originated from we can end this the logical way,

    [But of course CFK knows not what logical is ] lol.
    .

    justa joka

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #53
    What a strange notion that money=class. It's well seen what God thinks of money - look at the people he gives it too. !

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @45

    I know what you're getting at. If the coming referendum is just going to be us having the 'choice' between being the sovereign territory of this Argentina or sovereign territory of Britain then it's no choice at all, it's a forgeone conclusion what the result will be and that result is no change. this would not be us exercising our right to self determination. This is supposed to be us showing the world that we have the right to choose our own political future but if it's phrased like that (and looks likely that it is) then in my opinion it's just a rather transparent way of ratifying British sovereignty of the Falklands, it'll impress no-one.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you dont seem very convinced of your own people ability to decide the best outcome,

    you dont have to be british, if you dont want to.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @54 Briton
    What you mean “overhere”? Cornswall, England?
    I only found the Malvina House Hotel which looks so poor!
    What justa joka means?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We have
    The
    1. Claridge's,

    2. The Dorchester, 5
    3,
    RITZ
    4langham

    all 5 star.

    it means
    justa joke .

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @56
    The British government won't be constructing the question on the referendum paper, it will be The Falkland Island Government asking the question. All I have heard about it so far is would you like to maintain the status quo or opt for a different future of your own choice. The latter affords them no protection and the former guarantees protection from one of the worlds most technologically advanced armed forces in the world today. Which would you choose?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @58

    He is taking the piss out of you and you fell right into it. There is no such thing as a 9 or 10 star hotel. Given that Stanley is quite small do you not think a huge 10 storey building would look just a little out of place?

    I have to disagree thought Comodoro is a dive, apart from that nice rugby bar, what was its name again?

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    SuisseUS, why dont you visit the Falklands and see for yourself? Or do you find it easier to be critical a few hundreds miles away with the security of being anonymous online?

    Having 7,000 overnight tourists may not sound like a big thing to Argentines, but consider that this is 230% of the entire Falklands populaiton. Just imagine if 920,000,000 (2.3 times Argentina's population) land-based tourists visited Argentina in a single year. It is all relative.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    61,
    eye no take the piss out of miss sussie,
    eye no live in the falklands,
    eye see stars after and not before,

    relax,
    besides, i am an islander, and thats the very truth,
    born and bread islander,

    just not the island you think ..

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  • LightThink

    This article picture not from FI.

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  • slattzzz

    @64 really thats why the building behind has Falkland island co ltd written all over it, you really are deluded, all we get is Terrible teeth troll and his theasaurus, thinks he's smart but is in fact a complete arse, anyone can google a theasaurus to get big words, Guzz the ships cat who once he starts losing a debate gets all bolshy and changes the subject, BK well what can you say tissues everywhere try a porn site matey I'm sure CFK will be in a few somewhere. Then we have Malvi and Jose who reckon they are going to nuke the islands and us, what a pair of complete dickheads talk the talk but run like the wind when it comes to the nitty gritty. Think well say no more. Can't you lot see the coincedence of all these headlines, strikes, inflation, rhetoric, threatening, bullying, pot banging and CFK pathetic attempts to deflect the peoples thought from whats going catastropically wrong in your own country, trying to get other Latam countrys involved, lets face it if you did get the Falklands and the Oil you would fuck it up anyway, so leave it to the big boys, stop believing the brainwashed garbage you are being fed and actually do some research not just what you have been told, think for yourselves, you get more like Nazi Germany everyday. Well done the Falkland Islanders live long, live British AND PROSPER!!!

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  • LightThink

    65

    I always hear the complains where the chocolate can not be found at FI.

    I always hear the complains where the imported fruits are expensive and not fresh at FI

    I always hear the complains where all kinds of edible oils cannot be found at FI.

    I always hear the lemonades made from Argentine concentrated lemmons are in great request at FI.

    I always hear the soaps/detergents imported from Argentina are used at FI.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    @66

    Bloody hell you hear a lot dont you, the question is from who do you hear it? You also think a litre of milk in Argentina costs ARS $1.52 when it costs ARS $6 so no one should believe a word that leaves your gob.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @57

    Our right to self determination is too big a deal to be tied up in a question of do you want this option or that option, what it can do is eliminate what we don't want whilst leaving the result open. 'We don't want Argentine sovereignty' does not neccessarily mean 'we want to be a British Overseas Territory for ever', it just depends on the question asked in the referendum, which brings me to....

    @60

    Yes I know, but at the moment they seem to be decided on the 'do you want this or that sovereignty' format whilst agonising over how to phrase it so make it sound like it's going to give a meaningful result. I know which way I'm going to go on this, I don't want to have anything to do with Argentina and I certainly don't want them having sovereignty of the Falklands. My concern is that this referendum is supposed to mean something more than ratifying our Britishness and that if it's done like this then that's all it can do. It's supposed to be us for the first time exercising our right to self determination, a foregone 'British Overseas territory for ever' result is not, in my opinion, self determination.

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  • LightThink

    67
    The milk/cheese are abundant/cheap but no youghurt at FI.

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  • slattzzz

    Last time I was in the Falklands (not long ago) there was no shortage of anything in the naafi, I even had some lemon with my G&T, so I suggest your source of info is SHITE

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  • XAVIERV

    Completed harmony .. Ja.

    In short, what to vote next year is his decision to remain British, good in my opinion this decision does nothing to feed to the world Argentina's position. Since my country claims that UK has a colony here and confirm its status means confirming that they are settlers from a European country. Ok?

    For the record, I'm not Peronist vote or to CFK.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    70
    Last time you were in FI...........

    Would you delineate where /how is their unique grocery shop !

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    NAAFI can't you read and yes there are shops selling all sorts of products, do you think it is just hand outs from the back of lorrys if so you need to do some more research unless you want me or some of my Island friends to enlighten you

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    73

    Obviously you never went to FI.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    I beg to differ want you want to know, how many bars there are at Mount Pleasant both legal and illegal, how big the Warrant Officers and Senior Ranks mess is, how many Radar and anti air missile sites there are, how far from mount pleasant to Mare harbour, how many mine fields the rg's left and never put on maps, shall I go on.

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  • ChrisR

    For a while I was an engineer on an oil terminal in the Delta of Nigeria. I replaced an engineer who was murdered with a sawn off shotgun by three locals who, upon capture, were personally executed by the local Police Chief in the centre of their village. No trial, no appeal, just the evidence of the eye witnesses given to the police.

    It was impressed upon me by the site manager that I must be vigilant at all times and not wear any jewellery etc. and never look any potential robber in the eye.

    Although I was only over there for a short time I never felt at risk and the locals in the town were great.

    I now live in Uruguay and could easily make a visit to BsAs, but then I stop to think: why risk a visit to probably the worst shit hole on the planet?

    Even my next door neighbour, a very nice Argentinian who rides his BMW GS1200 over from BsAs for his holidays while his family fly over, has warned me about the situation regarding personal safety. He claims most of the criminality goes unreported in the papers as there is just too much and people become accustomed, and therefore hardened, to it.

    So I find it very difficult to believe that the large towns of Argentina and BsAs in particular with their shanty towns (just like Nigeria) are worth the potential personal grief of a visit.

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  • XAVIERV

    His hatred of Argentina could not be more. His feeling is not simply the result of their powerlessness. I do not blame the FI or live in Uruguay is the same. The difference is that Uruguay at least admit their dependence on Argentina. MUJICA himself admitted this a few days ago.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands are British

    76 ChrisR

    Well Chris, you need an after midnight certification. You scared me to death.

    Certain to stay away from the place now.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Xav- the referendum will I hope question simple and clear - stay as we are-a self-governing overseas territor - or accept Arg Sovereignty and whatever form of govt they allow us to have.
    The word Bitish may not even be in it

    Ultimate Independence- within the Commonwealth - is the dream of a good number here - but totally unrealistic for many years yet! Arg claim for one problem

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    As you know Argentina is a federal state, in her provinces have autonomy. Perfectly could be integrated as a province. Argentina's constitution, in Article 121. Says: The provinces retain all powers not delegated by this Constitution to the Federal Government, and those powers expressly reserved for “special agreements” at the time of incorporation.
    That is to join as a member state could set its conditions. They might be some, no Argentine continental can not take up residence in the islands without the consent of its inhabitants. All British born there will always be an option Argentina will in no way an imposition. All natural resources belong always to the islanders and their descendants, shall have jurisdiction only Argentina but never the domain of those resources, etc.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you state local goverment,
    not deligated by the federal goverment.

    but is it not true,
    just like the united states, that if required or needed or felt in the nations interest,
    the federal goverment can and will take and inforce control.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @80 Yeah like you can see that happening are you deluded, the islanders would be on the first flight out of there and an Rg population ensconsed within weeks red phone box gone all road signs on wrong side and in spanish, pictures of CFK hailing a great victory, grow up, you have a great track record looking after your provences don't you...............NOT. Your article 121 means jack shit to us and we know how good rgenweener are at sticking to articles don't we, you make it up as you go along. NO THANKS, TRY AGAIN.

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  • Falklands are British

    80 Xavi

    You are a real trier Xavi. I think you should apply for a job in the Foreign Office.

    Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    80 XAVIERV (#)

    I would be very interested to know if you live in a Province or in CABA, because where I live we depend on the President looking with good “onda” on the current Governor to get our partial share of the tax income.
    It would be a disaster if the FI became part of the Argentine. At the moment the FI have a GDP per capita of US$55.400, whilst we have US$17.380.
    The Islanders would be crazy to become part of our economic disaster!!!!

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    As you know Argentina is a federal state, in her provinces have autonomy. Perfectly could be integrated as a province. Argentina's constitution, in Article 121. Says: The provinces retain all powers not delegated by this Constitution to the Federal Government, and those powers expressly reserved for “special agreements” at the time of incorporation.
    That is to join as a member state could set its conditions. They might be some, no Argentine continental can not take up residence in the islands without the consent of its inhabitants. All British born there will always be an option Argentina will in no way an imposition. All natural resources belong always to the islanders and their descendants, shall have jurisdiction only Argentina but never the domain of those resources, etc.

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Idlehands

    Stop dreaming that is nothing you have not population so x% of nothing = Nothing

    @EnginnerAbroad

    UK is in Europe and the Islands are in SA still irrelevant.

    @ Simon68

    Your comparison is irrelevant compare the Islands with Monaco 1,95 km² per capita US$ 180,000. Ha ha

    Population matters compare any company with a country GDP and you will see how high they are.
    Per capita only shows an idea of productivity not richness.

    So one man selling USD 20K per month will have a per capita of USD 240k even if he has not profit a lives like a poor in the process. Ha ha

    Now Simon really where are you from?

    @Islander1

    Good for you but those figures are irrelevant even for a very poor nation.

    So my question is.. you claim to be better than the argies but them in 200 years have built a modern nation with a close to 500bn dollar GDP.

    So can you tell me what went so wrong with you after all?
    Because your performance looks like from the poorest nation in Africa than a country in the western hemisphere.

    How do you pretend to become a nation is you lack of the basic that any nation has?

    Think about it.

    @WestisBest

    I see it from sat imaginary nothing there the most lets say relevant thing there is the military base the rest just little houses, few close to none pavement roads, infrastructure, lets say nothing.

    In the middle of the jungle in Africa also there is not fast food, crime, slums, pollution, etc.

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  • Clyde15

    #86
    Have you been to the jungles of Africa Dany?. I have.
    Fast food is what you can catch. Settlements have “dwellings” made from any material available, crime is not reported and dealt with by the people there. Justice can be summary. Sewage and God knows what, flows down by the dwellings. Water is often taken from mosquito laden pools. Anyway your analogy is lost in translation.

    I would imagine that the average Falklander has a better standard of living than the average Argentinian. By this, I am not saying that there are not many Argentinians who have a higher income but that there are also many Argentinians with a much lower standard of life.

    Why do you need a paved road when you can drive a Land Rover ?

    I take it from this comment that all roads in Argentina are paved and that the remoter parts of your country have a wonderful infrastructure?

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    “I take it from this comment that all roads in Argentina are paved and that the remoter parts of your country have a wonderful infrastructure?”

    Good one Clyde. :-)

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Unlike Buenos Aires, there are no shanty towns in the FI.

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    86 DanyBerger (#)

    GDP per capita is the only way to compare countries' productivity, because if you try to compare GDP of Argentina with that of UK, for example, you get a nonsense result.

    UK GDP (PPP): Total $2,308.503 Billion
    ARG GDP (PPP): Total $435.2 Billion

    No comparison!!!

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    90
    Dany is right
    GDP/per person doesnt show us people revenues.

    For example:
    in US; median household income ~ 50 K
    their revenue portion is 2-3 trillions $ in GDP.

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The only thing we have in true common with Europe,
    Is to share 21 miles of the English channel.

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    & 90 / 91

    Consider “ income distribution ” effects.

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  • Ayayay

    @49
    A culture defining class by what you're wearing or the night life, THERE'S the problem!

    I ADMIRE Argentinans for what they do WELL
    But in any time in history, doesn't -excess -superficiality usually mark a government decline?
    .

    Dignity, transparency, heroism, stewardship, depth-that's universal class.

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  • SussieUS

    @63
    You and Conqueror
    Accept the facts: The islanders have the islands for 189 years and the only hotel is The Malvinas Hotel with the wrong name simply does not make sense. Where is the pride of the islanders?
    I was expecting to find many hotels with all kinds of food to welcome all kind of turists including visitors from the Island of Japan. Hey, when I was in Tokyo I was impressed by the japanese modernization. Can the Islanders learn to copy from the japanese? Oh, No! OK. The islanders are passe and stay the same! Yaaaaaaaaaaaak!

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  • Forgetit86

    All news about South America are bad. All about the FI are good. Ofc, this is how things really are, isn't it, Britards.

    Jul 13th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Clyde15

    And did you feel at home? Ha ha

    Now serious you cannot compare the 8th bigger country in the world (Argentina 2.8km2) with little Islands or states.
    And even though Argentina (92%) is more urbanised than UK (90%) and US (82%) and many others EU countries.

    So making infrastructure for a little Island like UK is quite easy but for a large country like US, Canada, Russia, Australia, China, Brazil, etc. is a difficult task.

    Now use your brain for once and imagine western Europe with only 40m inhabitants and 92% of these people living in cities. Have you got the picture now?

    “I take it from this comment that all roads in Argentina are paved and that the remoter parts of your country have a wonderful infrastructure?”

    Not even in US, ASIA, UK or in Europe are all roads paved especially in rural areas. You should know very well that are you not from Scotland?

    I recommend you to make a trip for Wells and Scotland and then come back.

    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg
    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg

    But the “poorest” rural province in Argentina “Formosa” looks far more civilised than many EU countries (no names here). Ha ha.
    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg
    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg
    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg

    http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Img/278281/0099437.jpg

    So in conclusion better to be dominated by argies than Scottish and Englander from the countryside ha ha.

    Oh! and don't get offended It is that I couldn't resist to make the joke. ha hihihiii

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  • Clyde15

    #97
    Sorry to disabuse you - as usual - but Scotland does not have any unpaved public roads. Come and see for yourself. As for Wells, where is this. I have never heard of it.
    Your references show a typical stone house built about 1800 in the remoter parts of the Highlands, totally modernised inside and let for holidays. The locals live in modern bungalows with central heating, double glazing etc.
    I notice that in your pictures you have shown camino al puerto - a dirt road in your civilized town. I could troll the net for pictures of areas of slums in Argentina but that would prove nothing. Every country has areas of deprivation and decaying infrastructures
    Anyway, I have no idea what you are on about and as to taking offence, there is nothing you could say to make me offended.

    #95
    Sussie, you come across as a self obsessed poseur, only interested in fashion and showing off.
    The tourists who visit the Falklands are not coming there for de-luxe hotels, designer shops and fancy restaurants. If that's what they wanted, they would go to London, Paris, Rome or New York Many are coming out of curiosity and others for the wild life. Would you expect to find a Hilton hotel in a remote region of Patagonia. I think not. A comfortable estancia is more than sufficient.
    You ask, can the islanders learn from a nation of 110 million and apply the same standards. Of course not - horses for courses. Port Stanley's population could fit into a couple of Tokyo's high rise flats.
    As to the name of the Malvina Hotel. It was named after the daughter of the original owner. Malvina was a popular name in Scotland at that time and has nothing to do with the spurious name given to the Falklands by Argentina. I think it shows class to keep a historic name and a sense of maturity from the owners. They just don't care what you think !

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  • Monty69

    95 SussieUS

    The 'pride of the islanders' is evident in the fact that we won't change the historic name of an historic hotel to pander to the ignorant pretensions of our agressive neighbours.
    In 50 years time the Malvina House Hotel will still be there, and still called the Malvina, as part of a prosperous and perhaps independent Falkland Islands.

    97 DanyBerger

    Why don't you engage your brain for once? The Falklands has 3000 people, of whom 90% live in Stanley. About 3% live on rural West Falkland. We're hardly going to blow our entire capital reserves on providing paved roads to 300 people, are we.
    Instead we have an air taxi service that will take us wherever we want whenever we want (almost!) How lucky are we?

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  • briton

    Boom year for the Falklands’
    That gentlemen is the post, and a fact,

    All else is pure envy and jealousy .

    You have what they want,
    Its that simple.

    .

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  • Pete Bog

    @100 Correct.
    If Argentina concentrated its efforts on running itself in a more competent manner rather than wasting its time trying to steal the Falklands from the Islanders, they would not need to be jealous as they are now.

    Jul 14th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Monty69

    Still far underdeveloped compared with “super power Scotland” of Clyde15.

    On a surface of 78,387km2 he has all paved even his bedroom. Ha ha

    ************----------------------------------**************************

    @Imperialist Haters

    Bad news for Britain Mir Khan (British boxer) lost while fighting against Latino Danny Garcia (US).

    He last words before landing by a punch from Danny were I have no doubt that I won like the Falkland are British.

    Ha ha

    Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #102
    I will forgive you Dany because it is obvious that you do not understand the nuances of the English language very well and your comprehension matches this.
    Thank you for acknowledging that Scotland is a “super power”. I would be too modest to claim that myself but compared to “Argentina” it is. That puts us miles ahead of you !! Chuckle , chuckle ,ha ha.
    Your point about me paving my bedroom is factually incorrect - like most of your postings. I had thought about that; although Caithness granite is extremely hard wearing, it is a bit cold on one's feet and difficult to lay on suspended wooden flooring, so I reluctantly had to settle for Wilton wool carpets for bedrooms and living areas, teak parquet flooring for the dining room and vinyl flooring in the kitchen and bathroom. The granite slabs are used in the garden ,for paths.

    Although I think boxing is a stupid “sport”, congrats. to Mr Garcia for winning. I see you are indirectly claiming him as an honorary Argie.

    We look forward to seeing the Argentinian team at the Olympics.
    I genuinely hope they enjoy the experience and will get the credit for their performances as individuals or teams without jingoistic national fervour raising its ugly head.
    I will sign off with your brief salutation, although I think “he he” is more apt. There is a subtle difference which would be picked up by a native speaker of English.
    Bye for now
    HA Ha

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  • briton

    Yes the brit got beat,
    But he came a close 2nd,

    But that’s boxing for you,
    But hey ,

    At least HE went down fighting,
    Unlike some we can name,, can we not .chuckle nuckle .

    Jul 15th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    104 briton

    Excellent, came a close second! Ha,ha,ha,

    The only thing about DunniBurger aka Mr. Blobby (that is an inside snide) is he is so used to coming second, wait for it: HE THINKS HE'S WINNING!

    I mean, be fair, no Argie ever comes anywhere but first, even when they are last!

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  • briton

    very true,
    even when flushing the chain, they jump before they think .

    then wonder why they always end up in the sewer , lol.

    Jul 15th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    95 Sussie- get your facts right lass - or stay quiet The MalvinA hotel, or MalvinA house that was there before it never ever had an S on the end!! - stupid you!!
    In the late 1800s Malvina was a common girls name(from Scottish origen as are many folks here). There is a picture of the lady the place is named after left hand side of the entrance!
    There was an opinion poll a couple of years ago on the names - and the overwhelming majority of Islanders said - keep it as Malvina.
    The Hotel owners have now renewed the hotel sign - complete with a painting of the Islands flag beneath it - that sort of seems to attract less Argentine Tourists around it now for a photo- wonder why!!
    Hell we even have a wild fruit called TeaBerry or Malvina berry!!!

    I know it is difficult for an Arg supporter - but do try and right something sensible and true for a change.

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    And not to forget that South Georgia was where important actions against the Argentine invasion took place during Falklands War, here is June 2012 South Georgia News and Events:

    - Potential BAS Merger With National Oceanography Centre
    - White Paper: The Overseas Territories
    - Shaking It Up
    - Fishing And Shipping News
    - Profile Of An Aerial Rat Exterminator
    - Shackleton Expedition Support Ship Announced
    - Is Bird Island Really Like That?
    - Bird Island Diary
    - South Georgia Snippets

    www.sgisland.gs/index.php/(h)South_Georgia_News_and_Events

    www.sgisland.gs

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    As I see it, now you'll have to thank us for the war
    and even for the debris lef behind
    which can perhaps include the planted mines
    why? islanders got new passports,
    now first class,
    not the fleeting papers of yore
    which they hated and would tell the F.C.O.
    to shovel up their ... (a word to rhyme with class)

    so now the time's back
    to renew acquaintances and friends
    to shake hands
    us in the continent
    and you in the overseas lands
    again...

    :-)

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    From the Book of Drivael
    “After the Lord God Made the Earth he found that he had some small piece of land left. This he placed in the Southern Ocean, next to, but not of the Continent.
    He selected a chosen people and bade them to take dominion of this barren land. The people were happy in their simplicity and thanked their God for his bounty. He replied, do not thank me but look who I have given thee as neighbours.
    Years passed and voices were heard from Argie Land to the west. A false Prophet arose and promised his people that the lands of the Falklands were rightfully theirs. A great clamour did ensue and the people cried lead us to the promised land . Out of the darkness of the night, the bespoilers came and wrested the land from the chosen people. The people cried full sore ”Why have you forsaken us ? Fear not spake the Lord, an mighty retribution shall be visited upon the ARGIES. And it came to pass that it was so. God's chosen ones came from the sea and sorely chastised the Argies so that they cried. We were led astray by a false prophet and were blameless. The Lord God said go to thine own land and return not. This they did. The false prophet was deposed and a semblance of peace prevailed in their land
    Years later, a new voice was heard crying. Believe not the words you have heard before. The land belongs to you. If we take this land then we will have fulfilled our destiny. Our country will become a shining beacon and be admired by all. The people cheered at this. It must be true, surely she is the promised prophet. Her name is Holy embodying Christ and the Church. Let us praise Christina and follow for she can do no wrong. She is exalted amongst men. Great leaders hang on her words of wisdom. Her visage has no wrinkles and her hair is the colour not seen in nature. She must be the Madonna.
    The chosen people of the Falklands did say unto this :-
    I see the Trolls are on Mercopress again --- Ho Hum.
    Here endeth the lesson

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    so now the time's back
    to renew acquaintances and friends
    to shake hands

    Now that they have failed at everything they have tried, from threats to blackmail,
    They want to be friends,

    We say, would you shake a hand with death written on it.

    .

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    110 Clyde
    go back to the brown trouts and graylings,
    that the river fill
    or better still,
    open a dictionary
    for certain words
    chastisised would have been better,
    because God spells well
    all Babel-born languages
    just as all those that were originated therefrom
    and are still spoken, here and there...

    Now dear briton @ 11

    'Flog that man, Mr. Christian'
    'But, Sir, he's dead'
    'Mr. Christian, I said flog that man'

    and after this was done
    by order of Capt Bligh
    we would all have merrily sung,
    to the tune of Auld Lang Syne

    We're 'ere because we're 'ere,
    Because we're because we're 'ere;
    We're 'ere because we're 'ere,
    Because we're because we're 'ere;

    if we'd been aboard the Bounty
    and this were'nt a lower-deck song of World War II

    I may add then... that you if you knew
    who are you chatting with
    would know that my hand
    as creative as it is
    wouldn't dare to have death written on it,
    but life!

    PS:
    I have my friends on the islands
    on the islands I have friends
    the question of names
    has no influence,
    it cannot be an issue
    between friends!

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #111
    chastisised ? No such word in the current English Language which is supposed to be mandatory in this forum. Not in the King James version of
    the Bible either. Where did you get this one from ?

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    You achieve no more to flog a dead man,
    as you would a dead horse.
    For on rode the 600
    And dead men tell no tails,

    But if a man slaps you in the face,
    Why then should you get the blame?
    And he aloud to be the victim.

    Argentina the victim as always
    Picked on by the nasty brits
    They want what is not theirs,
    Or they take it bit by bit

    But to claim the victim,
    Whilst attacking the innocent
    The Falklands as it was,
    Is a disgrace in humanity?
    And a victim, argentina never was.

    .

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    114 briton

    Yet another good poem. :o)

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @114 briton the drinker
    Keep the islands in your ass! That's what the islanders needs to eat, your shit!

    Jul 16th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #116
    I see you are keeping up your high literary standard.
    The first sentence is a physical impossibility - even for you.
    Grammatical error in sentence two - should be need -not needs.
    Thank you for your contribution to the debate.

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    I see grammar lessons come and go
    brits and argies's exchanging
    them as sandwiches in the Park at lunchtime.
    That's good, we'd both be learning
    if not English, how to rhyme!
    Thank you briton
    thank you Clyde!

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Google Street View just added imagery of Antarctica, which will likely build cruise ship and specialty high-end air tourism to Antarctica sites, which in turn benefits Falkland Islands because of proximity to Antarctica as well as to South Georgia. Would make good business sense for Argentina and Chile to cooperate with Falklands and British Antarctic Territories to build more regional tourism circuits that can include all countries of the area: Falklands, Chile, Argentina, and BAT.

    Google announcement: http://goo.gl/pCKKV

    StreetView of Ceremonial South Pole national flag display (don't worry Argentines - your flag is just hidden behind American flag): http://goo.gl/pCKKV

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #118
    Thank you for your vote of thanks. Sussie is supposed to be fluent in English so I was just fine tuning her grammar and/or syntax.
    I would be the first to admit that my knowledge of Spanish has been gleaned from Speedy Gonzalez cartoons - a credit to the Mexican people.
    If I attempted anything more than rudimentary Spanish, I could be shot down in flames.

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    O, Clyde15, apparently a Scotsman
    whose English I would love to hear
    albeit perhaps not to me very clear
    undoubtedly strange to one's ear,
    more used to Irish brogue,
    or even stiff upper lip's,
    one of my words in 113 you critisised.

    But, may I bring your attention to the fact
    that from your comment it transpires
    you're not very conversant on UK bands
    free.band websites is the place
    where the word chastisised you'll find
    despite King James' approved text
    to be read..., but of course
    there were no Metal bands then
    except headbands, and chastity belts...
    Fetch here 'Sanctity Chastisised'
    http://darkjam.com/Rigor_Mortal/info.php
    and, friend,
    you'll be surprised!
    ah! I'm sorry for fingerslip on 118
    instead of 'argies's'
    'argies are' should be read
    Now, English and English Literature,
    travellers, history, sail, I love
    Spanish being my mother's tongue,
    aber Deutches Sprache ich auch kann.
    Bye for now!

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    thanks all,

    sadly the femal usaian, still has a lot of growing up to do,

    and i wont utterence with a child,
    sorry.

    Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #121
    Point noted, but I would not take English lessons from a Heavy Metal Band !
    When my daughter was in her teens, I was forced to listen to Motorhead, Deep Purple and Whitesnake. I preferred 1930's ragtime and blues played on the guitar. We managed a compromise in ZZTops.
    Age 45, she and her husband ( a consultant surgeon) still go to see HM bands. When they told us they needed us to watch the children because they were going to Ramstein, I could not understand why they wanted to visit a USAF base in Germany who were flying F-16s. Well, it is an age thing .
    My generation were the first rockers - Elvis, Buddy Holly , Everly Bros. etc. In those days, few people had even heard of the Falklands.
    To all other posters, I apologise for going of topic.

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Mind you, it would be very nice and entertaining, if some of our idols and super stars whent to the falklands, for a bit of support,

    bring in money tourism, and world media .

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    There's a fairly good pop band in the Falklands: The Pigs.
    And Clyde15, may I join you in your apologies to all other posters and Mercopress for going off topic, and torturing you with my lousy poems?

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    125 Argie (#)

    No need to appologize, your “lousy” poems are very entertaining, but I support Clyde's taste in music, having been brought up in a household that believed that the only music to listen to was JAZZ!!!

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    126... thenaks for your understanding. By the way, past three score and twelve, I've learned to like almost all music. Metal Death is not my first election but I needed it to counterbalance, if just a bit, my choice for 'chastisising'. And, of course, to rub Clyde's worst part... (bleat!)

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @ 124 briton
    I am from the USA. I am your enemy. I am anti-british like most argentinians.
    Accept the fact. Here in the USA most of the americans says “stick it in your ass” ..means I don't care (islands). Is obvious that you don't have americans friends and like Zhivago have difficulties understanding the american english and argentinian spanish.
    Also, it takes my attention you don't have any knowledge on the USA law such as the USA Privacy Act which prohibits to release sensitivity
    information from my files : this includes my financial information, the 2 telephone calls recorded by the UK team and all other information you team collected from my internet account. BE CAREFUL. BETTER FOR YOU TO SHUT UP.

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    make me you stupid child,

    now grow up and act your age .

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @129 briton
    You comments on USA immigration and USA privacy acts make you look nothing more than an uneducated briton..I can slap you with a law suit for transpassing my privacy. You old man!

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Its not my fault you CANT read,
    Briton has never mentioned you immigration or privacy laws,

    As for you doing a law suit on me,

    Try it,
    And will have you extradited for insulting language and threats ,
    And racist insults,,,,,
    No wonder people call you
    [chlamydia Jane ]
    If you want to play the insult game, young lady,
    We would suggest you keep looking in the cracked mirror ,
    And wished ya never drop the damm thing.

    bla bla bla .

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @131 briton
    You, the UK team ('agents”) and the islanders started insulting the argentine leader with profane language which is unacceptable.
    Conqueror keeps making threats against all argentinians which is unfair. Argentinians are peaceful people and don't need the UK team
    continously making unnecessary observations about my country Argentina, the argentine leader and argentine citizens.
    I have the right to use offensive language in retaliation for insulting the argentinian leader, like it or not.
    There is not such law in the USA for deporting a person that have used profane language. Profane words is my rights of freedom of speech.
    Anyone have the choice to ignore my comments, so do it.

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    It seems to us, the America has warped your brain,
    You hate everyone and everything,

    Why do you live there?
    You do nothing but deride them, insult them, and abuse there kindness,
    America has given you everything, and this is how you repay them, by hating everything American.

    If you hate America that much, go somewhere else to live .
    And stop humiliating your self.

    Jul 18th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @briton

    Oh! Poor briton I would like to see him become the lady of some crazy Latino in a US jail.
    Do you want 2 kgs of baseline if you are deported to US?

    It is the less we can do for you after all we learned to appreciate you. or may be not??

    Well I’m confused now. Let’s see after the extradition stuff.

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    134 DanyBerger
    Oh poor Danny boy,
    Your just jealous that SussieUS aint stalking you,

    No doubt you would enjoy being stalked by a nymphomaniac .
    lol
    .

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    @ 132. Was there an Argentine leader insulted here? Who? Not the narrow-minded, futile, blind, foolish, short-sighted, half-witted, fuddle-brained, irrational, senseless, fascist, crook, ridiculous poppycock
    I imagine, I hope...

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Maybe some goofy action by Argentina at the Olympics will keep the momentum going for a continued spurt in Falklands tourism this year. And hope for another Union Jack bonfire in the streets of Buenos Aires or better.

    Whenever CFK grabs headlines with her anti-Falkland Islands diatribes, the Falkland Islands tourism will reap benefits because the high-income tourists who tend to be voracious news readers and love actually getting to places in world headlines are a great market for the Falklands-South Georgia-Antarctica cruise ship circuit and will want to return to the Falklands on their own to spend more time in Stanley and in camp areas.

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @133 @135
    Don't change the conversation Miss Isolde.
    I never said I “hate” the USA.
    The USA and Argentina are my countries, believe it or not.
    I hate the UK people and the UK team (“agents”) do not worth a shit . They are uneducated and their english don't impress me at all.
    You all have not knowledge of the USA Privacy Act which don't permit confidential information be release to these viewers.
    I am not a nymphomanic.
    I am an arrogant person, a racist and atheist.

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    @ 137.... according to your views, high-income tourism should be going to Syria by the shipload.

    No, they won't. The islands are a Nature's incredible reserve, lovingly cared for, and whatever the widow may say (does anyone overseas read her at all?), the South Atlantic environment has its own attractions.

    Cheers!

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    There is a serious problem with the islanders. So far, no monies to build a decent hotel to serve the best food to turists. Hahaha.
    No monies to build high class apartments buildings found in my Comodoro Rivadavia.Hahaha.
    No monies, No class, Keep the islands in your ass.

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @140

    If you think class is the same as money, you don't understand class.

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    139: Ok, but not exactly the Syrian model because although in the headlines, there are probably only a small minority of “crises tourists” that might be drawn by the violence in Syria to actually go to Syria.

    If CFK actions prompts more headlines against Falklands from actions in London or Buenos Aires, the tourists won't be going to London or BA in response, but will be more receptive to going to Falklands if only because its in headlines and seems like an important place because of that.

    In effect, almost any news about the Falklands is free advertising that helps “break through” some of the morass of daily media flow bombarding higher-economic status market segment.

    Agree that single biggest draw to Falklands is nature-related tourism, and the high-economic status market segment will be drawn to that, including huge high-status segment readership of Audubon, Sierra Magazine (US), and Wildlife (Britain), etc

    However, the segment of those attracted to the Falklands might include quite a few who may wish to see some nature, but will also want to mix it with some time in Stanley - walking to nearby penguins and beaches, going to pubs, visiting churches, museum, etc. In a way, like Penguin News editor Lisa Watson quipped about the Zylberberg Olympics video, it could have been made by Falklands Tourism Commission.

    So assuming that CFK's diatribes are going to fade, what could be a good marketing strategy that would build on the nature-related focus of Falklands? I like this:

    “Where else can you enjoy a full English breakfast while penguins stroll past?”
    http://www.discoverwildlife.com/advertisement-feature/falkland-islands-wildlife-holidays

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    You are a geriatric hard up nymphomaniac,
    You stalk the brits, because you can’t have Danny boy,
    Who obviously likes you,

    Ya can’t find a decent guy,
    So you spend your time stalking the guys on here,
    And spreading your vile insults,

    We just feel a slight sympathy for a stalker without a future.

    Insult away , stalk away and stay away.

    .desperation of what .

    Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @ 143
    I am not a nymphomaniac.
    I am arrogant, a racist and atheist.
    You don't need to keep insulting me anymore. So, keep your mouth SHUT.

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @HansNiesund

    The problem with the Islanders is they have no money, no class and no grass.
    Just big mouth.

    Ha ha

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @Dany

    I see you too have a firm grasp on the concept of class. I bet you loved it when the Grand Army of the Incontinent landed and shat everywhere.

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    142. Some of us here stay to stop the nonsense, to discuss properly and to avoid unnecessary (and btw useless) confrontation, especially personal rows. I've been, for quite a while here, a 'traitor' to fanatics' eyes, but I can't help to see minorities abused and stay afar doing nothing.

    I've never been to the South Atlantic disputed arcipelago, but lived (studying, sitting for exams, working at a London insurance brokers') in England long enough to understand how the Brits click and, in my view, they click as most people should. I've been a member of the Royal Society for Middle English, I am one in the Conservative Party since 1969, and a devoted fan of Falklands Conservation. How come? ADN perhaps. I'm a seaman. My Basque ancestors shared for centuries, the fishermen's fortunes and misfortunes of the English Channel and the Kantauriko Txokoa with the English. Seamen are, as you might be aware of, a 'class' in themselves, no matter their birth, nationality or mother tongue. They help each other in times of distress, ever at the risk of their own lives. That's me. That's why I act and write as I do.

    143 briton, would you stop burning your fingers by treading windward on impossible sagas?

    .

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    144 SussieUS
    no, keep you mouth shut,
    and stop stalking me, are you desperate, or hard up,
    stop replying, you perve,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    143 briton, would you stop burning your fingers by treading windward on impossible sagas

    explain .

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #140
    You are trying to compare apples with oranges. I looked up Commodoro Rivadavia. I would have to admit it looks a lovely city. That is the point - it IS a city. Population 186,000 - Stanley's Population is 3000 and a very small town. There is a population difference of 60 times .
    You would have to compare it with a comparable town of the same size in Argentina.
    Co. Riv. supports a large percentage of the Argentinian population as a holiday resort with easy access from the main population centres..
    Stanley can only host tourists who arrive in ships or aircraft thanks to the restrictions from your government. The infrastructure could not cater for a huge increase in numbers at present. If there were huge extensions in the way of building, then it would lose the very charm that tourists want to experience. They do not go there for sophistication , but to enjoy the wildlife in a safe environment.

    Lets make another comparison and compare Sydney with Co.Riv.
    The population difference is about 25 times greater than Co. Riv.
    Your beloved city is a minnow in the scale of world tourism compared with Sydney, which has infinitely more world class cultural activities, restaurants high rise apartments and luxury hotels. It makes your city look provincial and out in the sticks.
    So by your analogy, your city has no money and is 3d class class !
    Just another aside, Sydney was founded by the British and they all speak English.

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    148.
    Let the Argentine/American witch
    boil in her own hatred broth...
    full of sour spumes and froth.
    Save your mandrake and ellebor
    for better endeavours,
    kick away the (word meaning female dog)!

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lost1

    Please support this page - Falkland Islands Desire The Right - dedicated to Falkland Islands current affairs, keeping the islands free and poking fun at the lunacy of the Argentine government and their various claims and winding up their Internet trolls -

    https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    150 Argie

    Let the Argentine/American witch
    boil in her own hatred broth...
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I would like nothing better,
    We have tried to be polite,
    We have tries to ignore her,
    But she still insults and abuses,

    We are much better than that
    And will try to ignore her,
    Lets hope she goes away,
    And turns into an evil bat.

    Thank

    .

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    Mercopress permits insults be made.
    I repeat. No other web site permits personal offensive attacks.
    You can file a complaint with Mercopress and tell them you really feel “touchy” by SussieUS.
    No one scare this female argentinian.
    No UK men, no USA men, no Argentine men!
    Hahahaha

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    150 Argie
    over to you .

    Jul 20th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Clyde15

    Road map in Buenos Aires only a place having more than 300.000 inhabitants is consider a city.
    In the provinces just 100k is fine.

    3000 is just a neighbourhood.

    You should compare Sydney with Buenos Aires. Result Sydney just a town...

    Jul 21st, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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