The head of the Brazilian Senate and former president Jose Sarney said he had his reservations about the incorporation of Venezuela to Mercosur as full member since the government of Hugo Chavez does not respect democratic rules. Read full article
I have no doubts this man is sincere, but I think it is too little, too late.
El Diablo is waiting for Chavez and I hope he gets him sooner rather than later, but perhaps democracy is dead and buried in Venezuela never to revive.
The record shows, Sarney always makes a deal at the end. The person to watch in his party is the MPDB, is Caty Abreu, the chairperson of the Agro-Industry and they want Venezuela because it is a major importer of Brazil's poultry and beef and other agro-exports - which Brazil still imports also from Colombia and the U.S.. Thus the Agro-Industry and the military like an independent Venezuela that stands up against the U.S. - due to the issue of the reservation Raposa Serra do Sul which is seen as a potential geopolitical-gestrategic zone of U.S. intervention on the border Brazil-Venezuela--Guyana. Nevertheless, the propagandistic agitation within Brazil against the inclusion of Venezuela will be vocal - because the mass media in Brazil: GLOBO, FOLHA, ESTADAO are practially Voice of America (although they get much of their international commentary from BBC, Reuters, AFP - all NATO-propaganda organizations.)
Ottona,
Interesting point about the Agro industry.
Are you Brazilian?
I am surprised to hear the mass media in Brazil is pro-american.
Are the main newspapers owned by American interests?
I respond by Ottona. yes, most seals intereces by Americans, but the point of exhaust to escape this alienation is the internet. because the major means of communication do not have total control over it. bye ...
3. For some reason after reading your comment, i'm a bit worried about your subcontinent. How are the BBC, Reuters, AFP - all NATO-propaganda organizations?
@6 How would we know? Venezuela has been a one-party Chavez is a god state since 2005. In the 2005 parliamentary elections, 74.74% of the electorate abstained. Could someone supported only by 25.26% of the electorate be democratic? Who are the opposition in the National Assembly?
@3 NATO-propaganda organisations. Sure about that? Who told you? Please describe an item of propaganda that you have personally encountered. Please also describe how the item is untrue.
Was Sarney the President from 1985-90? If so I seem to remember that he was close to the old dictatorship and only became President through being the VP to a dissident who died before he could take the oath of office. Chavez on the other hand has been elected and re-elected more times than any other leader, always in vigorously contested multi-candidate races like the one going on now, so to say there isn't democracy in Venezuela is just false
A multi-candidate race overseen by Chavez goons? I ask again: What about the 74.74% of the electorate that abstained in 2005? Who are the opposition members in the Venezuelan National Assembly? How many seats do they hold? Looky, looky the presidential term of office is 6 years. The president can be re-elected perpetually. But only since February 2009. Now who wanted a new constitution when he got elected in 1998? Guess! There is NO democracy in Venezuela and anyone who says there is, is either a fool, a liar or both. And just look, we have BK. Someone that most of us have recognised as a liar and a fool for a considerable time. Is he a foolish liar or a lying fool? My money is on the second option. After all, he thinks the Black Widow is beautiful!
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Jul 23rd, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr Sarney needs to get his message to the Brazilian senate.
I have no doubts this man is sincere, but I think it is too little, too late.
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0El Diablo is waiting for Chavez and I hope he gets him sooner rather than later, but perhaps democracy is dead and buried in Venezuela never to revive.
The record shows, Sarney always makes a deal at the end. The person to watch in his party is the MPDB, is Caty Abreu, the chairperson of the Agro-Industry and they want Venezuela because it is a major importer of Brazil's poultry and beef and other agro-exports - which Brazil still imports also from Colombia and the U.S.. Thus the Agro-Industry and the military like an independent Venezuela that stands up against the U.S. - due to the issue of the reservation Raposa Serra do Sul which is seen as a potential geopolitical-gestrategic zone of U.S. intervention on the border Brazil-Venezuela--Guyana. Nevertheless, the propagandistic agitation within Brazil against the inclusion of Venezuela will be vocal - because the mass media in Brazil: GLOBO, FOLHA, ESTADAO are practially Voice of America (although they get much of their international commentary from BBC, Reuters, AFP - all NATO-propaganda organizations.)
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ottona,
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting point about the Agro industry.
Are you Brazilian?
I am surprised to hear the mass media in Brazil is pro-american.
Are the main newspapers owned by American interests?
I respond by Ottona. yes, most seals intereces by Americans, but the point of exhaust to escape this alienation is the internet. because the major means of communication do not have total control over it. bye ...
Jul 24th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 03. For some reason after reading your comment, i'm a bit worried about your subcontinent. How are the BBC, Reuters, AFP - all NATO-propaganda organizations?
Jul 24th, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0anyone really believe Hugo Chavez is democretic?
@6 How would we know? Venezuela has been a one-party Chavez is a god state since 2005. In the 2005 parliamentary elections, 74.74% of the electorate abstained. Could someone supported only by 25.26% of the electorate be democratic? Who are the opposition in the National Assembly?
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 NATO-propaganda organisations. Sure about that? Who told you? Please describe an item of propaganda that you have personally encountered. Please also describe how the item is untrue.
Was Sarney the President from 1985-90? If so I seem to remember that he was close to the old dictatorship and only became President through being the VP to a dissident who died before he could take the oath of office. Chavez on the other hand has been elected and re-elected more times than any other leader, always in vigorously contested multi-candidate races like the one going on now, so to say there isn't democracy in Venezuela is just false
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0A multi-candidate race overseen by Chavez goons? I ask again: What about the 74.74% of the electorate that abstained in 2005? Who are the opposition members in the Venezuelan National Assembly? How many seats do they hold? Looky, looky the presidential term of office is 6 years. The president can be re-elected perpetually. But only since February 2009. Now who wanted a new constitution when he got elected in 1998? Guess! There is NO democracy in Venezuela and anyone who says there is, is either a fool, a liar or both. And just look, we have BK. Someone that most of us have recognised as a liar and a fool for a considerable time. Is he a foolish liar or a lying fool? My money is on the second option. After all, he thinks the Black Widow is beautiful!
Jul 24th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jul 24th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree.
@8
Please go and live in Venezuela.
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