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Falklands’ begins to work in organization of next year’s referendum
The Falkland Islands government has started to prepare the list of issues that will have to be addressed for the organization of next year’s referendum on the political statute of the Islands, particularly the drafting of the question, inviting overseas observers and contracting a specialist to manage the whole operation. Read full article
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Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Before all you Malvinistas get on here and say you don't care what we think; the referendum isn't for your benefit. It's for anyone else in the world who may have a small shadow of a doubt- fuelled by Argentine Government rhetoric- about what the wishes of the islanders truly are. Thanks to that deadbeat ambassador in Washington (I can't remember his name but you know who I mean. The guy who looks like a lunatic) who tries to tell everyone that we're being held hostage by the UK military, the referendum needs to be held.
ha,ha!! The referendum is a bloody rubbish by cameron! It does not work.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 02
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cameron didn't propose the referendum and he already has no doubt about the result.
So operation “Pat them on the head, tickle them under the chin and flip them the middle finger” begins..........
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Nothing to do with you wogboy.... so fuck off!!!!
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 - “ha,ha!! The referendum is a bloody rubbish by cameron! It does not work.”
Jul 30th, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0No its not, in fact, its true democracy at work. But you wouldn't know what that was if it hit you in the face!!
Has anyone noticed the similar syntax & vocubulary used by SussieUS & puerto argentino?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Couldn't be! or am l getting paranoid?
1 Joe Bloggs
Jul 30th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said!! this should finally tell the world what you want and silence those idiot nobel peace prize winners, hasbeen pop stars and dead beat actors telling the world on your behalf what they think you want.
This is long overdue and KFC and all her cronies would do well to take note of the results of this.
As you so correctly point out, this IS what the islanders want. No one elses opinion matters. End of.
Who are we trying to impress with this? if it comes down to 'choosing' either Argentine or British sovereignty (the result obviously being a foregone conclusion) then anyone who believes that we are just a British colony will take this result as confirmation of that.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry too much about what the argies think about this, the truth is they are worried about it, very worried. There isn't a great deal the UN or anyone can say if they make their choice by democratic referendum. The corrupt decolonisation committee with their 'bloodied-hand' Syrian rappateur can go an blow it out of their arse. This will be the final gambit and after that if they still want the islands, they will have to try and take them by force again.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/c24-to-assist-in-falklands-referendum/
Jul 30th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;-)
Oh! I can´t wait for the results! I´m anxious!
Jul 30th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is so intriguing! Can´t figure out what your wishes are!
hahahah that's funy,bennies want to be Britpigs!!! lol
Jul 30th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure they'd rather be any type of pig than become an Argentine.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahah another joke for you:http://www.clarin.com/politica/Gobierno-licitacion-buscar-petroleo-Malvinas_0_746325411.html
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Going to need to change your name soon. The people of the Falkland Islands will make it clear that you, and those like you, will only be able to envy from afar. At least 200 miles. Why don't you change to an honest name. Oh, you don't have any in argieland. A country built on blood and bones.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 You know don't you? The people of the Falkland Islands will tell the world that, freely and democratically, they choose their land and to remain under British protection. There is NOTHING you can do and NOTHING you will ever be able to do.
@13 The Falkland Islanders will be what THEY want to be. Britain and the British people support them. And we will support them whatever it takes. Get that? WHATEVER it takes!
15. And how is this bad for the falkland islands?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0man.....you can be you want but the islands are our!!.I'm not racist!! :O
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the Falkland Islands Government will liaise with legal experts at the FCO on the wording of this referendum question, as it has to be above reproach.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Joe Bloggs says in post 1, the referendum is to show the world that the people of the Falklands have a community, a culture, values and standards, and most importantly a voice.
This will show the Argentine claims that the 'British Military are holding the islanders hostage' to be a blatant lie. Which I'm sure most of the world already suspects.
Once the results are published, then the Falklanders will truly have let world know that they claim the right of self-determination.
No doubt the Argentine government is panicking, as it will no longer be able to whinge about the Falklands to the UN anymore, and by not taking part in the referendum they show themselves not to have any convincing argument as to why the Islanders should choose Argentine sovereignty over British.
Lets look at this objectively using Pro's and Cons.
Pros of Argentine sovereignty:
Relatively close.
Er. That's it.
Cons of Argentine sovereignty
Be forced to adopt a new language, culture and currency
Unable to exploit your own resources for the benefit of the Islanders
Will be forced to change the name of the Islands to suit Argentina
Will not be allowed their own government as they will be 'administered' from Argentina
Will not be allowed the option of a referendum on independence from Argentina.
Pros of UK sovereignty
Have their own government independent from UK government
Allowed to exploit their own resources for the benefit of the Islanders
Protected by UK military from any external threats
Allowed to keep and develop own culture completely independant from outside interference including the UK.
Allowed to use the currency they wish
Will keep the true name of the Islands.
Will have the option to hold a referendum on independence from the UK whenever they wish.
Cons to UK sovereignty
UK is quite far away
Er. That's it.
15. And how is this bad for the falkland islands? same question again, how is that bad for the falkland?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 I already told you. Can you not read? Why do you think it would be good for the Falklands?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 In your psychotic dreams!
if you want to be brit,chinese or gay I dont care ..but the islands are our!!!simple
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gustbury do you have a answer as to why the clarin story is bad news for the islanders? lol
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0because allegedly you think oil it's your... but not! or you want share with us the oil isn't your!
Jul 30th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No the oil is the islanders & your looking outside their EEZ, so again how is this news story bad for the falklands or are you not sure?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the joke is you must to share “your” oil with us!! that news can irritate someone!
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 You can find your own. But the Falklanders' oil is THEIRS. And if they “share”, it will be with people THEY choose. I doubt you bunch are on any list they could create. Now, who's telling them they “have” to share?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0haha! your a funny chap. Where in the news report, is the bit that says the falklands must share their oil with your country. what you suffering from is call a day dream awhahahaha :) you do know if you country didn't pull out of the oil agreement, you may of got a share.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0gustbury
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what you think?
The boss-eyed Nestor had the chance to join with the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) to develop the oil and he threw a temper tantrum, and ripped the draft agreement up! What a plonker.
Almost as stupid as The Mad Bitch Of Argentina to who he was married before he croaked.
Why is it that there are so many fcuked up people in Argentina? I mean, you should know, being one of them.
It is not a question of self-determination. The same principle that gave colonies the possibility to be independent now it is used to retain a colony.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not a question of self-determination, The UN resolutions have already stated this.
To understand to whom do these Islands belong, it is necesary to learn some History, but that is just what UK and islander do not want.
The islands were first discovered by some sailors working for spain. Nobody knows really who was, but it was about 70 years before Davis (the UK version of the story). There are lots of maps showing the islands before the alleged Davis' sight in 1592. The south atlantic was first sailed by spain, looking for a route to india, chica (spice route). There were portuguese sailors but they worked for spain. There was a time when portugal and spain were the strongest navys in the world, (before England, Netherlans, etc.)
The first settlers were french (from St. Malo), From this derives the name of Malvinas. 1764
Bouganville recognised then the spanish sovereignity. 1766 England erected a whaling station in Saunders island. Then the british left the islands for “economic reasons” in 1774.
The islands were always until 1811 under spanish administration, the the united provinces of river plate became independent the islands bacame under the administration of Buenos aires. In 1820 was reestablished a military garrison there.
By the year 1826 -1828, there was a successful attemp to colonize the islands by Louis Vernet, but then the ship US lexington destroyed the settlement Port Louis or Puerto Soledad.
The british forces took advantage of this anarchy situation and invaded the islands BY FORCE in 1833. Some gauchos resisted this new administration but then they were sent to England to be judjed.
Since then, Argentina has been claiming the islands.
From this moment britain developed a british colony with people coming from scotland, england, etc.
After the war in 1982 the islanders became full UK citicens
30. deutscher. you missed a important pat of history, that being Spain never gave its claim to the United Provinces (there was no argentina at the time). Oh and its not in the UN C/24 commitees remit to say its not a question of self-determination.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Who did never give up the claim? England?
Jul 30th, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was a treaty between spain and England in which England renounced indirectly to its claim with the Nootka Convention in 1790.-
Islanders, being full UK citizens can not decided, just because nobody can be judge and judged.
If UK and islanders need to appeal to the “self-determination” principle is because they know that history and “papers” are not on their side. This is well known by the FCO. (ask lord Chalfont). Since the UK government says that they will respect what the islanders say, is because they do not have any other argument to support the claim for the islands.
I agree that you want to remain british, but the territory is “more argentine” that UK. Sorry.
It is good to send a message to the world saying that Islanders want to remain british, but why do not they tell the world why the Falklands are british, with strong arguments and not biased information written by the MLA´s.
Everybody knows that Islanders want to be british. This is no under question. As a matter of fact, There are a group of UK citizens with a very strong military garrison living in an islands claimed by another country.
@30 So much real history you missed out. What a pity about argie revisionism. You should know about that as the nazis did a lot of revising of history themselves. Surely your grandpa told you how it was done? Rewrite a few books. Burn the rest. Suppress inconvenient facts and lie. Remember how the Poles attacked Germany to start WW2.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's get something straight. No-one gets rights to anything by sighting it. But the first recorded landing was by the British in 1690. Britain formally claimed the Islands in 1765. France did not object. The the Spanish BOUGHT the French settlement. Get that? BOUGHT. And France was in no position to “recognise” Spanish sovereignty. British sovereignty was NEVER relinquished. The United Provinces of the River Plate acted as pirates. Note that they sent a pirate, David Jewett, to make their claim. Louis Vernet was authorised to conduct a commercial operation on British territory by BRITAIN. Unfortunately, being an argie type, he engaged in piracy. After the U.S. action, Britain took its territory back. The gauchos were glad to be finally paid in good British silver. Since then, argieland has been lying whenever it suited it. See the Arano-Southern treaty of 1850. See the remarks of the argie vice-president in 1866. Now THERE's some real history. And WE can prove it all. Bad luck. Lost again!
@33
Jul 30th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep the islands in your asshole. Who wants 3,000 retards unable to build a community college, a 5 star hotels, a shopping mall, a first class restaurant since 1982. Use the Chilean ports and leave my country Argentina alone. Argentinians don't need your criminal comments, mind your own country, imbecil!
Afuera de mi pais ingleses odiosos!
34. hahahahaha Sussie you don't know much do you.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. you live in the USA (america) so calling agentina your country seems i little odd.
2.Why would three thousand people in a shopping mall and a community college, you do understand that you need a alot more people to support that kind of infrastructure.
3. i know you live in america but alot of people in the world think shopping malls are basically evil, as they destroy small businesses, town centres & lead to obesity (think americans)
(9) WestisBest
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your post No. 9 oozes Kelper sincerity and situational awareness....
That's the way to go , lad.........
@33. Britain abandoned the islands in 1774. Why? due to economical reasons... It sounds strange, since the whale oil was very valuable at this moment. Was it contractual or voluntary the decision to leave the islands???? And what about the Nootka convention in 1790???
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is true history too. The Arana-Southern treaty has nothing to do with the Falkland islands. It was about the french-english blocade made in River Parana.
Tell Cameron and all this pirates living in an usurped territory about this treaty, so he would not need to appeal to the self determination principle.
Dear Pirateland member Conqueror, leave argieland and come back to Pirateland in northern hemisfere, where you belong!
Learn more about history, do not teach your pirate potential children lies!
@7 Isolde
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I think they run a sort of troll academy at La Campora. I had a delicious spat with a “Florrie” in the D Telegraph yesterday.
The thing is you kind of get a mental image of each of them - sort of why The Goons worked so well on radio but would have never transferred to TV. I see Sussie as a 15 year old girl who is experiencing PMT for the first time. I see BK in pink fluffy slippers etc. with a picture of “his queen” smiling (or a close approximation thereof - given the botox) benevolently. I think Florrie was a small but irritating “Furby”
If it hadn't actually happened, it would be hard to believe that anybody would go to war on such feeble and specious grounds as the Malvinista version of history, and for largely symbolic reasons to boot.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's also hard to credit that 30 years later, after a crushing defeat, nothing has been learned, and you return to the same old crap like an alcoholic returning to the bottle.
Actually Gustbury and Florrie are remarkably similar in style
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone know where you can download one of those computer programs that analyses people's literary styles? Maybe they just use the same manual! Jajajaja!
38 steveu. I seem to think BK is a girl, a middle-class lefty, likely a student. spouts a lot of silly marxist ideological crap, which only 18-19 yr olds can believe in (you know the ones that wear Che guevara t-shirts & seem to forget he was a terrorist).
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 gustbury------I have news for you once the results from the referendum are in and the result goes our way, we are asking the UN to sanction the complete take over of Argentina seeing that to our mind Argentina did not exist before we settled on the Falklands.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You see we see Argentina as ours and we want you out so we can call Argentina by its rightful name Large Britain.
@36
Jul 30th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well in a democracy we're allowed to voice our concerns, you know; freedom of speech and all that stuff.
So you can kiss my arse Think.
@42
Jul 30th, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, I think this could be a case of of the FI applying uti juris posedis - Argentina's pet legal principle in their sovereignty claims.
@41 I prefer my version ...
(43) WestisBest
Jul 30th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well......... in a democracy we're also allowed to choose you know; freedom of choice and all that stuff.....
So, I choose not do what you would like me to do.
(I still appreciate your Kelper sincerity and situational awareness though......:-)
Deutscher - your post@30 is full of inaccuracies, including “in 1766 England erected a whaling station in Saunders island” -
Jul 30th, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saunders was never a whaling station........
34 SussieUS
Jul 30th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just one question then, oh font of all knowledge, ( or should that be fount? ) never mind. anyway where was I? oh yeah
“Who wants 3,000 retards unable to build a community college, a 5 star hotels, a shopping mall, a first class restaurant since 1982.” this little gem.
If the falkland islands are so backward and so useless then why, for the love of all that is holy, why does KFC want them so much? huh?
and another question. If you love Argentina ssssssooooooo much, why do you live in porksville? ( USA )
Stop press
Jul 30th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sovereignty dispute settled!
Men's Hockey score
GB 4 Argentina 1
;-)
Just saw Team GB beat Argentina in the Hockey, trounced the cheats 4-1 should have had better training facility's other than a war memorial Argys. Give my regards to Chrissy.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we will refran from this, untill nearer the time, when the questions are ready ,
Jul 30th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as we would not want to upset CFK before the shock, as this may spoil the fun.
@32
Jul 31st, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Islanders, being full UK citizens can not decided,”
Yes they can as most of them were born in the Islands, many families have lived there for several generations.
“If UK and islanders need to appeal to the “self-determination” principle is because they know that history and “papers” are not on their side”
The history is on their side, but not the twisted history given by Argentina to the UN in the 1960's which has been exposed by Pepper and Pascoe to be innaccurate.
“but why do not they tell the world why the Falklands are british, with strong arguments and not biased information written by the MLA´s.”
And the Argentine information isn't biased? What about the lies told by Argentina about Britain evicting civilian settlers in 1833?
@37
“Britain abandoned the islands in 1774”
Spain abandoned the Islands in 1811, and?
“The Arana-Southern treaty has nothing to do with the Falkland islands”
Why did Argentine protests over the Falkland Islands cease after it was signed?
“Learn more about history, ”
Looks like you need to do more research before you lecture others to do so.
If The United Provinces of the River Plate claimed to inherit Spain's claim to the Falkland Islands in 1810/1816 can you explain why Spain did not drop its claim on East Falkland till 1863?
Any intelligent person can work out from these facts that if Spain had handed its claim to the United Provinces of the River Plate, it would have dropped its own claim in 1816.
@30
“Some gauchos resisted this new administration”
The gauchos led by Rivero did not resist the new administration, they were angry at Vernet's people for paying them in valueless currency. When Rivero murdered several people they included a frenchmen and settlers from the River Plate region-it was not aimed at the British but at Vernet. Indeed in 1833 Captain Onslow persuaded the gaucho's to stay and paid them in Silver- Rivero was happy to stay under British rule.
Over to you.
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/brainwashing-in-argentina/
Jul 31st, 2012 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brainwash anybody ??
“inviting overseas observers and contracting a specialist to manage the whole operation”
Jul 31st, 2012 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Specialist? Tony Bliar perhaps?
Right, this so called British“referendum” is beginning to look like one of Sadam Husein past democratic elections :-)))
@53 - Marcos
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wishful thinking on your behalf. Don't worry, Marcos, the UK will support the Falklanders by sending experts in international and of writing treaties etc to assist the Falkland Islands Government.
The UN will be asked to supply impartial observers to ensure no interference or 'irregularities' in the voting system, such as, for example, the Argentine government trying to 'buy' votes, which is, as I understand it, their modus operandi.
@34 We want it in yours. It's bigger. No doubt due to constant use.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 No, nazi, Britain didn't abandon its settlement. It evacuated it. An important difference. The Nootka Sound conventions have nothing to do with the Falklands. The Arana-Southern Treaty refers specifically to a return to a state of “perfect friendship”. “Perfect friendship” with an outstanding dispute? You krauts never learn, do you? Here's a thought for you, brain-dead. We have video of argie compulsory “Malvinas” brainwashing. You can't find “the Falklands” in any British educational curriculum. You have nothing but latino-nazi lies!
@45 WHEN you get a real democracy, you're going to die, Twinky. The “people” will remember your elitist, thieving, CFK-ass licking ways.
@53 Anything is better than LatAm corruption. Never mind. Go on pushing for a little while longer and the cesspits of LatAm will cease to exist. Venezuela, Bolivia, argieland are top of the list. Watch the skies!!
@55: tell the piraten Cameron, Hague, Haywood about the Arana-southern treaty, so they will have a better argument to support the british occupation in South atlantic.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Nootka sound conventions DO have much to do with the falkland islands. Read them, please.
So, stop saying lies!
OHH what the difference , evacuated and abandoned! Tell me why did Britain abandon the islands? It is not written, but it must have been contractual and not voluntary.
I hope your pirateland can afford the military base in FI for a long time, to keep you safe......
Do not talk too bad about “Argieland”, your parents and grandparents or your “piraten colleagues” in pirateland were fed by its meat, corn, wheat, etc. Oh, you seem to be aggresive like some Argentines like CFK. The alimentation might have already damaged or modified your genetic info.
Do not lie, learn about history and try not to be biased.
@56
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I shall research the Nootka sound convention but it would be better for your argument if you provided it, detailing where it goes against Britain.
Britain was not the only country to evacuate the Falkland Islands, Soain did also in 1811.
The question is that if Argetniona/The United Provinces of the River Plate inherited the claim to the Islands;
1/- Where is the ducumentation/treaty that handed over the Islands from Spain to the United Provinces of the River Plate?
2/- Why did Spain keep claiming the East Island till 1866?
3/-What part of West Falkland did Vernet occupy?
“Tell me why did Britain abandon the islands? It is not written, but it must have been contractual and not voluntary.”
What evidence have you that Britain's withdrawl was not voluntary?
Britsh and American seaers were present for a long time, using Port Egmont and other harbours on the Islands, Vernet and Co was not the only person to live on the Islands. The sealers did not build a permanent community but British sealers were contnously involved in commercial activity in and around all parts of the Islands.
“tell the piraten Cameron, Hague, Haywood about the Arana-southern treaty”
The treaty exists and is relevant. If the Argentines has a stae of perfect friendship withthe UK then explain when falklnd Islanders were in their 2nd/3rd generations why the sttae of friendship was perfect if there was aterritorial dispute.
Why did the Argentine protests to the UK cease after 1850?
“Do not lie, learn about history and try not to be biased”
You need to learn about history as well my friend.
It is a blatant lie to say (ie @30) that Rivero and his gauchos resisted British administration in 1833. His problem (if you actually analyse rather than skim over history) was with the worthless paper currency being issued by Vernet's men. Rivero felt he was being robbed. When he and his men were paid in Silver by Captain Onslow of HMS Clio, Rivero was more than happy to accept British rule.
All these indocronoughts are paid to fish,
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they can get even a nibble, it will please there masters and get a bonus,,,,
The catch, is not to allow them to hook you,
And that couldn’t be any easier, just for proof,
And the bait worms itself back into the ground .lol.
@ deutscher
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandshistory.org/
After reading this let me know what you think.
LOl I'm everything from a teenage girl student or guy with pink slippers on this thread to a 60 something Glaswegian on the dole (ChrisR). I've also been “accused” of being an Argie, George Galloway and even Cristina! Keep trying guys, this is funny
Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK
Aug 04th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you are saying that you are not Glaswegian?
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