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Argentine supermarkets must keep records of clients that spend plus 210 dollars
Argentine supermarkets must keep records of sales of plus 1.000 Pesos which must be available to tax inspectors, according to the latest decision from AFIP the tax revenue office. A thousand Pesos at the official rate is equivalent to 210 dollars and in the parallel 140 dollars. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo much for all the Malvinistas claims that Argentina was doing okay.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These restrictions are coming thick and fast. A sign that the government is getting ever more desperate.
Bloody hell!
Aug 07th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep ! the Santa Fe governor came out today and said there's no money“ in the province and warned that ”we are going to have problems to pay the salaries of the public sector's workers... desperate times for those trying to do a food shop without their full salary .......
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What?? Sorry to sound stupid, but WHY?? Is this only for supermarkets? Why does the Government want to know? Spying on the shoppers or checking the tax returns of the shops?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what happens if they spend over that amount? Do they get a visit in the dead of night and taken away for questioning. And they reckon they don't have a dictatorship anymore.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one can makeup something so ridiculous......only in Argentina......it's all about the model
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Desperate cornered animals are dangerous. Watch CFK and minions start biting and lashing out at everyone and everything,
Aug 07th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My gut is telling me CFK is deliberately trying to crash the system again and the only reason I can think of is to impose martial law “TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE!”
Watch, this is how democracy dies.
The people of Argentina is probably the only opposing force that the Argentine military can handle. Where's all her cheerleaders in this blog now?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So they are stopping people spending money and spying on them? How is that going to help the economy?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And they wonder why the Falkland Islanders don't want to be Argentinian.
Hello CFK, are you on planet Earth?
1000 peso, does that even get you a loaf of bread? i heard the inflation was high but that would be criminal.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can anyone come up with a reason for this? It's not even dollars its pesos. Perhaps the rationale is that if you can afford 1000 in groceries you are wealthly and they will tax you into the grave?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or are they worried about hoarding and a black-market when the economy crashes?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't understand the reason for it either, and whether it applies to clothes shops, shoe shops, furniture shops etc too. I don't understand who is being 'looked at' and why it matters to the Government. If you are a family and you do 1 big shop every month, as many people do, then it would be fairly easy to clock up 1,000 pesos in one go. I really would genuinely like to know why it is being done and what information the Government hopes to collect and what they will do with that information.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0$1000 is a decent lunch for 4 people not a very much money. It is another way for the gov't to monitor money to see if you are cheating on your taxes.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scary stuff happening...
No argentine commentators, too embarassed or is reality biting?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No subways for 5 days so they probably can't get to work.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am honestly reconsidering my vacation in Argentina next year... was going to Mendoza and BsAs. But if I am tracked and criminalized for spending money in their country... I dunno.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have to go there on business but I won't be taking any dollars.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely, wouldn't you just make two trips at two different supermarkets spending under the limit in each - or am I missing something?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no knowledge that this is true, but my wife and I quite often spend over 1,000 pesos just to stock up on wine, champagne, and non-perishable items before inflation makes this 1,000 turn into 1,500 or so. Nobody has (of yet) contacted us and asked for explanations.
Aug 08th, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Aug 08th, 2012 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lets see...
1) Mass shootings happening on a daily basis in the USA
2) Neo Nazism discovered to be rampant in the US military
3) they are burning mosques down in the USA, shooting own minority religions
4) people are panicking for the simple act of going to watch a movie
5) Euro zone is crumbling all around
6) Unemployment in France and Italy are now 11%
7) UK plunges into its 2nd recession in 4 years
8) London Security building floods with sewer liquids
9) one year aniversary of the UK riots
10) Putin is hunting down all opposition (100 worse than anything in Argie)
11) Massive toxic scandal in China
12) Syria
13) Mali
But heck, LETS WORRY ABOUT ARGIES SPENDING OVER 210 DOLLARS AT SUPERMARKET TRIPS.
May I suggest the priorities of everyone here are obscene they are not even funny anymore. Most of their countries are DISASTERS!! But heck lets worry about Argieland!
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Aug 08th, 2012 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0When you put it that way Argentinas problems do pale into insignificance, but Argentina is a mighty nation chocked, stifled, bound, over regulated and held back by a monstrously inept regime. They are capable of so much more, only a few decades back they were on par with Brazil and a few decades before that they were more than half of the total South American GDP and a few decades before that they were as rich as the most developed nations on earth eclipsing Spain, Italy etc.
Argentina wake up!!!!!!!!!!
@21 -Tobias
Aug 08th, 2012 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0This thread is about Argentine people being spied upon for spending more than 1,000 pesos, it's not about mass shootings or any of the other subjects you listed.
If you haven't got anything relevant to post, then just don't post.
Stop trying to divert attention away from the subject of this thread. You are now making this distraction 'method' away from Argentine woes so blatantly obvious, that it's actually quite embarrassing.
@21
Aug 08th, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0May I suggest that it is the priorities of your government that are 'obscene and not funny'. You also failed to pass comment on subject matter? Oh, will del potro be having a photo with turkey neck at the casa rosada with the magnificent accolade of your one bronze medal? Or will he tell her to shove it again?
@21
Aug 08th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you have trouble focusing attention deficit? We are talking about your country's government. FOCUS
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Aug 08th, 2012 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Classic example of irreverent ranting to detract from the article value. I'd go down to the smoke and mirrors shop if I were you, the ones your using these days are wearing a bit thin, mindful not to spend more than a 1000 pesos though!!!! unless your intending to purchase a spying glass
It's the poor Argentine citizen I feel sorry for. Imagine having to be careful what you spend your money on.
Aug 08th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Added to this is the rise in inflation, so food prices are ever increasing, so spending this amount on food in one shop is entirely plausible.
Why are these bunch of crooks allowed to get away with this? At least the supermarkets seem to have their heads screwed on right by 'splitting' the bill so the customer doesn't go over the 1000 peso mark, but it must cause lots of delays and added administration costs to do these things.
If the government is THIS desperate for money, then surely the big 'crash' can't be far away.
I bet the 'Dear Leader' has packed her bags and has a helicopter on standby for when the bubble finally bursts, and she'll be legging it to foreign shores (probably Cuba via Venezula).
Ladies and Gents,
Aug 08th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of you asked why the Government (so to speak) are interested in people who spend ARS$1.000 in supermarkets. As I see it there are two main lines of interest:
1) To identify hoarders, as people try to hedge against inflation.
2) To identify people who are “big spenders” in a bid to identify organized crime.
This was put into practice in 1998, but has never really shown any success, the new values that the AFIP put in place last month are ridiculous, just as an example, my wife and I spend about ARS$3.500 per month at the supermarket, doing our buying daily to ensure fresh produce, but many people who live on farms or outside town do one shopping trip per month.
Just another idiotic move by an idiotic Government!!!!!
ARS$1,000 might be a lot of money for the average CFKC voter but it is not THAT much money. Less than the cost of one pair of CFKC's designer shoes.
Aug 08th, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#28 Thank you Simon68 for the explaination. Tax departments normally want to know how much income you receive, not whether you spend a moderate amount in one go on your household groceries. It just seems really odd and, to be honest, quite pointless.
Aug 08th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that this is a Menem era law, hardly Cristina's fault! But if it can in any way help the economy at this time of externally imposed difficulties then now probably isn't the time to scrap it
Aug 09th, 2012 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0It may simply be to detract attention from the following:
Aug 09th, 2012 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentine president declared assets valued in 8.6 million dollars”
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/07/argentine-president-declared-assets-valued-in-8.6-million-dollars
Bk....odd how it is being enforced more lately. With your economic savvy, please elaborate how this helps the economy by tracking such basic consumer spending as FOOD! A family of four spends well beyond 1000 pesos a month on groceries, but you would not know as you've never been to the land of queen botox.
Aug 09th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I should explain that the ARS$3.500 that my wife and I spend at the supermarket is for a household of 2 and my mother-in-law who spends the weekends with us.
Aug 09th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has a big problem with corruption so i guess the idea is to identy people with a taxable income.
Aug 09th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although if rhe corruption is that big a problem a nice lunch for the tax inspector makes the problem go away :(.
Beware 'Big Sister” is watching you!
Aug 10th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't cry for me Argentina, There's life after Mrs.Bottox CFK....
Aug 10th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who from Argentina that is not a peronist can point out as a real, viable candidate as the next president?
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