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Limited effect for the Falklands of Argentina’s latest ban on Red Ensign vessels
The Buenos Aires Province Senate on 2 August passed a law last week banning British flagged vessels associated with activities in Falkland Islands waters from calling at Argentina’s largest ports. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThe British, thus, should ban all argentine ships from British ports,
Aug 13th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If indeed we had a British government with balls,
Still, action speaks louder than words,
Is this not true.??
why oh why are we contributing in development aid to the argtards when they clearly wish to blockade The falklands economy and its legal development, similar ploy is currently being undertaken with its other neighbours Uruguay. where is the common sense to deal with these blackmailing fuktards where it hurts, oh wait they have Empress c0ckh0are, the damage is already being done.
Aug 13th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0never mind the British government having the balls ! I wish someone in Argentina would have the balls to stand up to the mad cow and say hey f**k off.... The mayor of BS.AS has the spirit to call her a liar but needs support from say ooh Moyano to stop most transport from working in the capital and then the people need to rally together and push her out of office !!!!
Aug 13th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0just a thought !!
@3 Moyano is a moron as well. There isn't a single Argentine politician with any power who isn't a corrupt twat.
Aug 13th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not think we should ban Argentine ships from UK ports, as long as they are paying harbour dues and putting money into our economy.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Banning of our ships is irritating, but its effect will lose, not gain Argentina international respect and their port economies will lose out financially.
“Ironically, the Falklands should not be affected too much by this latest development. It remains to be seen if the latest ‘law’ passed by Argentina is enforced or indeed legally enforceable and who is going to be affected most in the long run,” said Capt Jamieson.”
I believe Repsol have said that when they have recieved the compensation from Argentina, that they will consider investing in the Falklands oil industry.
If that happens, that will REALLY hurt Argentina as has French, Italian and USA investment in the Falklands.
Now, the Chav's boasts of supporting Argentina militarily around the Falklands are ineffectual. If USA interest continues (they may even increase), expect a carrier group to counter if the Chav or Scrotum neck sends his/her navy down south. That's quite apart from what our forces can do to any agressive naval force.
On the subject of loans, aid or financial help to Argentina I would say a definate no. I would instead offer any aid intended to Argentina as a non repayable payment to the FIG to develop a really awesome port complex (on the basis that any loan to Argentian would be unlikely to be repaid).
That will again, really hurt the Argentines.
Rather than ban Argentine ships from our ports, I believe the UK should be contacting Argentina opposition leaders and outlining the huge benefits to Argentina of talking to the FIG and the consequences of continuing Argentina's present stance.
Also we should be establishing more links with Paraguay.
That is how to hurt Argentina to the core.
@5
Aug 14th, 2012 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0We don't actually have to do anything to hurt Argentina, they're doing a fine job all on their own so why go to any trouble?
All we have to do is sit back and watch.
The argentines effectively have nothing to ban.... 36 ships... and I would hazard a guess that quite a few of them never leave the Parana/plate area or at best RG coastal waters....
Aug 14th, 2012 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0From the CIA fact book.....'Merchant marine:
total: 36
country comparison to the world: 80
by type: bulk carrier 1, cargo 5, chemical tanker 6, container 1, passenger/cargo 1, petroleum tanker 18, refrigerated cargo 4
foreign-owned: 14 (Brazil 1, Chile 6, Spain 3, Taiwan 2, UK 2)
registered in other countries: 15 (Liberia 1, Panama 5, Paraguay 5, Uruguay 1, unknown 3) (2010)'
When you only have 36 ships whats the economical point of deep channel dredging ;-) Oppps sorry that's a different story. Ban them before they ban visits to your port on safety grounds me thinks.............
Aug 14th, 2012 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0All their trade goes in 'foreign bottoms'..... the Plate area is V busy but all the money spent on freight ends up in non RG pockets...oh apart from the graft.....
Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 The UK has 645 vessels in its merchant marine and is ranked 16th in terms of size. Argieland has 51 and is ranked 64th. How do you register a vessel in a landlocked country? Argieland has 5 vessels registered in Paraguay.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 A “difficult” situation. The “development aid” sent to argieland comes from the EU. Obviously, the UK could tell the EU that no British money is to be sent to argieland, but the EU isn't too good on accounting. Isn't it 16 years since it had its “books” successfully audited? So you see how it would work? British money isn't sent to argieland, except that the EU probably throws it all in one big bag and invites all and sundry to a “lucky dip”, but British money would go somewhere else. Besides, the EU is very keen on an agreement with the illegitimate “mercosur”.
@5 Interesting ideas. But isn't even the argie “opposition” infected with the “malvinas virus”?
@9 Surely you're not suggesting that there are people in argieland who are (shock, horror) corrupt?
@10 ... even Mongolia has a ship registry.... I think Paraguay's register( about 20 or so ships) trades mainly on the Parana which is international voyaging....
Aug 14th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10/... @5 .... we know what A Hitler did with german youth in 10 years or so.... the peronistas have been at the brainwashing of children for 60 years or so. A few thinkers ( thinking of Simon here not el thicko who only thinks he thinks...) break free but its a bit like religion really...
@10/..@9..... thieving is endemic....from the very very top to the very very bottom....
im sure The Falklands will survive anything argtards throw at them, however Argentina as a country....that not so clear. ripe corruption,failed infrastructure,in fighting, peronism as standard, gaining isolation, maybe its time for provinces to way up the benefits of independence.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0british ships are welcome on Chilean harbours!
Aug 14th, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(under the condition to bring tons of scottish fudge)
Even if we dont bann them, [as you say, its not worth it]
Aug 14th, 2012 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they are only isolating themselves even further, are they not
@11 I have to agree. I didn't think. A ship is a ship whether it's on a river, a lake, a sea or an ocean. But argieland does have 51. Sinking 51 shouldn't be hard! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_merchant_marine_capacity_by_country
Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Presumably you have seen the youtube video of indoctrination in argie schools. I can't remember the title. Can anyone help?
Much better to develop all links and communication with the S Atlantic/Antarctic (and everywhere else for that matter) completely avoiding Argentina.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the S Atlantic context, not our business what happen their side of the border, so long as they stay their side of the line.
@16 agree time the other latam countries cut loose from the parasite that is Argentina, there is business to be done with the Falkland Islands, Britain and indeed the rest of the world, however siding with the mad bitch will do you no favours as she drags down her country and attempts to drag down her neighbours who through either blind loyalty to the Latam name or just stupidness, risk being cast in the same mould hence shooting themselves in the foot and risking thier own trade opportunitys with the rest of the world. She is a laughing stock and making the whole of rgenweener the same, constant whinging and sabre rattling will get her nowhere, however if she had admited that the Falkland Islands exist as a people, self governing free society she might just have opened a door a little (very little) but she's gone to far and now NO CHANCE no one trusts, likes or can be bothered listening to Argentina, (including China they will get what they can and then do one) I hope other LATAM countries don't follow suit, because of the oxygen thief that is CFK.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0british and american cipayos... go, go home!!!!!!! America for genuine americans !!!!!! lol!!!!!
Aug 14th, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 spanish knob go home patagonia for patagonians
Aug 14th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 JUBA
Aug 14th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cipayo = Sepoy
Means “Soldier” in Urdu/Hindi.
Means “Native (Indian) Soldier” in English.
Today is a rank in both the Indian and Pakistani armies.
Once again the reality seems completely different in Argentina.
Space Cadet.
Lol
@17 Don't forget the chav. Now there's a real prat. Do you not think he looks and sounds like Mussolini? Should we not cut out all the intervening events and just cut straight to the lamp-posts, the piano wire and the butchers' hooks?
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 F**king argie scumbag. Do keep your head stuffed firmly up your ar*e. How thoughtful of you to position yourself so that it's easier to cut your balls off. If you had any! On the other hand, sepoys had and have balls. For the very few argie scum that “have” balls, don't they like handling them? A la Maradona. Because no-one else will. I trust that you know that argie “balls” are flat? Because Brits stamped on them! But to bring you as a brain-dead, psychotic, imbecile up-to-date, the Falkland Islanders are already “home”. They pre-date your cesspit by over 50 years. Continue to exist for another 49 years (until you're 50) and you may gain some “intelligence”. Possibly enough to realise what a prat you are. Don't be concerned if you die in the meantime. You won't be missed.
Don't be concerned about being a racist. All argies are racists. It's just one of the things that mark you as cesspit scum unworthy of existence.
As for “America for genuine americans !!!!!!”, when are you leaving, scumbag?
I do think we should “give” you Antarctica. All of you. But just you. No machines, no vehicles, no way off, no clothes, no food. Just you and the other (approx) 41 million argie war criminals, butt naked. When the temperature is at a balmy -80 degrees Celsius. Bet you'll enjoy tapping your dick and watching it drop off. Could you post a video somewhere? For your information I have a definition. An argie - ejected as low-life scum, exists for too many years as sub-low-life scum. Finally degenerates into shi*ty, low-life scum.
Are you getting the picture, sh*tbag? Do the world a favour. Cut your throat.
The headline says its having little effect, but the article seems to contradict that! I'm not happy about that really, but I don't blame Cristina, I blame Cameron's stonewalling; surely talks would be better for everyone?!
Aug 15th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22 Talks? Up your f*cking ar*e. In the meantime, I want your head, as*hole. On a pole. Outside my house. I have a kukri. Got any balls? I'll take them as well. You little mewling necrophiliac!
Aug 15th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Aug 15th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you stop licking that Whores arse and start standing up for your fellow countrymen in the Falklands? This women and her government along with the rest of the her country have been trying for years to suppress and assimilate our people. If you truly were British which I seriously doubt you are you would realise that our citizens come first when it comes to politics, not the wishes of another nation. Now dwell on that you pathetic treasonous fool.
@ 22 BK
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“surely talks would be better for everyone?!”
Arg. negociator: Malvinas Argentinas!
Brit. negociator: As you well know, the Falkland Islands are British.
Arg. negociator: Malvinas Argentinas!
Brit. negociator: The Falkland Islands are de facto recognised as British by 205 countries.
Arg. negociator: Malvinas Argentinas! Malvinas Argentinas! Malvinas Argentinas! Malvinas Argentinas!
Brit. negociator: Have a nice day, see you tomorrow.
This is how business is done in Argentina!.......Long live the crushing burocracy and bribery system!
Aug 16th, 2012 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dOqouGS0xQ
#25 Well even if your right thats how they would go, surely its in Britain's interest to have them as they are all Cristina is asking for, rather than have this campaign of bans?
Aug 16th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Aug 16th, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up Traitor, you have no right to speak if you put that whore first over your own people.
@27
Aug 16th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The bans aren't affecting the Falkland Islanders or the UK as they prevent ships from adding to Argentina's economy, therefore Argentina loses out, as the ships will go elsewhere to spend money, (harbour fees, refuelling , resupply etc ).
For outcome of talks see @25 St. John, therefore a total waste of time.
In fact the shippping ban is concentrating the FIs on sorting out a better port in the Falklands=Argentine backfire (again), yet another step toward independence/self-reliance.
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