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Falklands donated three aircraft to WW1 effort, and the five Spitfires in WW2

Tuesday, August 28th 2012 - 06:09 UTC
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A discovery by the Museum and National Trust has revealed that not only did the Falkland Islands donate Spitfires to the British war effort in World War II but also three aircraft to the Royal Flying Corps in 1914. Read full article

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  • Frank

    The British community in Punta Arenas had raised enough money to donate an aircraft in early WW1.... but they put it towards rescuing Shackleton's crew instead.
    They had enough left in the kitty to donate a machine gun......

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    Different people in the region helped in different ways, Argentina generously took in refugees from Europe after WWII.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    OUCH!!!!
    Geeeze it hurts when you bite your tongue....

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    The native people of the Torres strait lslands off New Guinea donated the money for a new Spitfire in 1940.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    2- Generous to a fault, Dr Joseph Megele, Uncle Adolf Eichmann and many other truly nice chaps were generously given safe haven in BA. Argtards must be so proud of there WW2 work.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #1 That was probably a better use for it. Theres a big difference between WW1 and WW2

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I wonder where these aircrafts where made...

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    7 Not in Argentina, they were too busy making Fokkers.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    'For Alicia Castro, with Assange Britain has the same attitude with Falklands'

    www.clarin.com/mundo/Alicia-Castro-Bretana-Assange-Malvinas_0_763723792.html

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    Argentinas “Dear leader” wants to know if The Falklands are getting these planes back any time soon, as she may have to drastically rethink her secret invasion plans!

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    10... they only want to know because their Antartic Military Base might need reinforcement.. Argentina shamefully militarising the Antarctic ...shame on you

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    #2
    Hundreds of volunteers, most of English descent ('Anglos') signed to help the British forces in WWII. I met and was friends with many of them, e.g. Edgar Robinson Bradley. They're all dead now...

    Edgar Robinson, a railways' engineer born in Lomas de Zamora (Prov. Bs- Ayres), joined the Royal Engineers and was sent to Burma, as Captain (and CO), to direct three Sikh battalions and one of the R.E.'s for the construction - with elephants as sole source of power - of a new railway line across the jungle. The officer commanding the Sikh was Prince Kapurtala (the Maharaja himself!) whom I also had the opportunity to meet in London (1970). Every night, three miles of rails duly nailed to sleepers were laid and every morning two of these miles were rendered useless by the Jap bombers. When the sun set, elephants unloaded new material from a train and loaded the debris which was sent back to rails' end. The elephants took the sleepers and rails to the places they were led to and, alas, they laid both in perfect parallel lines! At an approx. rate of one mile/day these people built the new line in 155 days. One evening, a big piece of shrapnel hit Edgar's ribcage and pierced his thorax, so he had to be rushed to a hospital ship... from which he was back in two weeks!

    Other stories, about other Argentine volunteers including a few war heroes, were published in a book edited here 3 or 4 years ago. I can't remember the book's name, but if any is interested, he can ask Libreria L.O.L.A. at http://www.lola-online.com/ for they surely know and have it.

    That's a part of our past.

    Our present is not good but we imagine that one day it may be rebuilt from scratch, just as Edgar Robinson and the troops under his command managed to rebuild every inch of destroyed tracks, despite the 'slings and arrows of an outrageous fortune'

    And hopefully before those of us that remember and pass the information down, kick the bucket...

    Cheers!

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    How sad that these clear signs of loyalty to the UK and the crown of the people from the islands were forgotten by the British governments after the war and the people there had to be helped by the continent with supplies, and assitance, sent by Argentine Governments. Gas, fuel, medical assistance and even college scholarships in Argentine schools were among the benefits granted by the Argentine people to the islands for large years. Just in April of 1982 the UK remembered the islands when their “friends” of the Junta had invaded the islands. As my grandmother used to say: “it is hard to be poor and proud”

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @13 “1982” hows that for loyalty?, need refreshing?? :)
    heres another case of loyalty for you, how the argtard govt left thousands of scared argtard invaders on The Falklands abandoned by their military to eat Her majestys british steel, hows does that Loyalty taste??
    ans as my grandfather once said “Argentines trolls are like toilets, full of shit”

    GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

    !SELF-DETERMINATION! mmmmmmm....... tastes real good!!!!

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pgerman

    Sorry, I did not mean to offend any of you just refresh some things that now seems to be forgotten. :)

    GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND PUNISH CFK !!!!
    Self determination !!!..sounds really good !!!!

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slb

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    Aug 28th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @16
    Poor Argentines, who on earth in their society do they have to look up to. HM the Queen generates money four our economy, Kirchner drains money from the Argentine economy. For example, I don't think foreign tourists flock to the Casa Rosada for a glimpse of Kirchner like they do for the Queen. The Queen looks radiant for her years, can you even begin to imagine what Kirchner will look like at that age, it makes you want to shudder.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slb

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  • JUBA

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    Aug 28th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    #19

    Its a shame you have to result in insults as you cannot win any battle or legal case.

    We respect our Queen and all the money she earns our country. CFK seems to use your money to become more and more wealthy.

    Just be glad that she will soon be gone and maybe your county will recover and become sane. If she stays in power, you will have no medicines or trains.

    Plus, if she tries to invade the peaceful Falkland Islands, she will lose another war, but this time, the job will not stay at sea. We will ensure you never attack again, and Chile and Bolivia have their lands returned to them.

    The Southern cone belongs to Chile not Argentina, and Chile know how to act like a mature country, not like a spoilt child full of drugs

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “people there had to be helped by the continent with supplies, and assitance, sent by Argentine Governments.”

    Yeah, clearly Argentina is the peoples best friends. That's why they want nothing to do with you, and never did even before the war.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slb

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  • toooldtodieyoung

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    Aug 28th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    #22 SLB

    More insults

    How is your inflation
    How is your international trade

    You steal oil companies then realize you need help to get your oil, which will not happen.

    Venezuela would rather set their oil alight than let you have any.

    Remember 1982, dont start things you cannot finish.

    Oh and we like your new air force, we use little planes like that for air displays, we have big planes to carry missiles and bombs, and big ships, and submarines, ROFL

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

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  • JUBA

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  • Vulcanbomber

    #26

    UK says watch the skies, watch the seas. If you continue to hassle and threaten our people, and steal fish and squid, and block ports, then we will take action.

    We can get you from London, we can get you from subs in the River Plate, we can get you with stealth planes, drones and everything.

    The only defence you have is CFK's lips which seem inflatable.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @13,15 pgerman

    Good thoughtful posts - hope you are well.

    With best wishes

    Steve

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @19 your village must be so proud now that their idiot has returned,
    I havent got a clue what the fuk you are saying something about fuking your auntie,who is also your brother, thanks but not my cup of tea.

    seriously, are you seeking help? you are deranged,are you la campora?

    seen as you liked it the first time heres a bit more for you JUBA,

    GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!

    & SELF DETERMINATION!!!! (for you JUBA)

    oh by the way thumbs up for your contribution, priceless.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slb

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    Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Valuable maps return to Argentina, provided by the Brazilian Foreign Ministry.
    Port Soledad- Malvinas Islands before of the British Invasion.
    http://objdigital.bn.br/acervo_digital/div_cartografia/cart531998.jpg
    http://objdigital.bn.br/acervo_digital/div_cartografia/cart531998.jpg
    http://objdigital.bn.br/acervo_digital/div_cartografia/cart531998.jpg
    http://objdigital.bn.br/acervo_digital/div_cartografia/cart531998.jpg
    Regards.

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    #33

    As always an Argentine refers to 1833. They forget that UK claimed Falklands well before this date and this was recognised by everyone including Spain.

    Argentina did not exist as a state.

    If you want to refer to old maps, try this one

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/292025_399484276785515_646365643_n.jpg

    Emmanuel-Augustin-Dieudonné-Joseph, comte de Las Cases (21 June 1766 – 15 May 1842) was a French atlas-maker and author, famed for an admiring book on Napoleon.

    He was born at the castle of Las Cases near Revel in Languedoc. He was educated at the military schools of Vendôme and Paris; he entered the navy and took part in various engagements of the years 1781–1782. The outbreak of the Revolution in 1789 caused him to emigrate, and he spent some years in Germany and England, sharing in the disastrous Quiberon expedition (1795).

    It also shows all the land the Argentinians have taken from Patagonia and other neighbours

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @12Argie,
    Thank you for your interesting story & link.
    l will try to get that book. Hope its in English as my Spanish is pretty rudimentry although l am progressing(too many other languages going round inside my head!).
    l always find that true stories are far more interesting than fiction.
    Especially autobiographies.
    Just finished reading about an ltalian ex-soldier who walked from Ethiopia to South Africa in WWII. “The Longest Walk”, formally called “Miles & miles & miles” to me, utterly enthralling.
    JUBA & slb not having much luck!
    Pity l didn't read them before they were removed! Their insults make me laugh.

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    This makes some interesting reading
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_the_Bellows
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_the_Bellows
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_the_Bellows

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JUBA

    #35 isolda, my aged dear, remember: OEA said: ........ chunkle, chunkle !!!!!, remember: time, time......

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @13 pgerman

    Your post was good-the UK did neglect the Falkland Isanders despite their past loyalty.

    Fortunately 1982 woke the UK up, and it now gives the FIs the support they deserve , so they don't have to be held to ransom by Argentina.

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    #33 The map web addresses you gave, return a notice of Bad Request (Invalid Hostname). Would you check and repost? Thanks!

    #34 The 'old map' has two names for the islands. One is the name we give to the arcipelago and the other is the one which Brits believe as the only possible name, due to...you know. Are you sure this is the map you wanted to produce? With regard to Patagonia, invasions, as you surely are aware of, are the means by which Man expands its blood and societies. The societies upgrow the place where they live, divide in groups and social movements occur until they need more room and ought to go for it. This happened -and will happen - here, and everywhere else, since the very appearance of the first hominids on our planet, and before that by animals, and it is also descripted as 'territorial want'. So please stop this nonsense. We are adults. (Are'nt we?). Thanks.

    #35 You're welcome, Isolde. I believe that book is in English or perhaps there are two editions. L.O.L.A. is a specialist in Latin American-related texts in all fields, including history, geography, wildlife, birds, &c., in both English and Spanish. The owner is a kind of 'Anglo'.

    #36 Richard Child (R.A.F.) was an Anglo whose daughter Maureen (a late friend of mine) was one of the founding members of the local Fellowship of The Bellows. Another was Mrs. Terry Chapman, OBE (neé... an Italian name I cannot remember) also a friend... They made a great job!

    Cheers!

    PS: Thanks to Moderator for having knocked off #16 and many other offensive postings here. Keep working! Believe me, you're doing something we've been expecting for long. If you can kick out for good offenders of more than two on the same news, please also do it!

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Thanks Mercopress for responding to my request and deleting all of the offensive comments on here. I'm sure I wasn't the only one to report the filth.

    Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JUBA

    # 39 argie “.. ........and many other offensive posting here. Keep working!” and wath is argie ?, wath is argtard? wath is argyland? how so?

    Aug 30th, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Juba, do you own a pub?
    You keep calling, “time, time”but you forgot the “Gentlemen, please”

    Aug 30th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Benson

    @39 Actually Arg I think it says Malouines so the second name on the map would only be relevant if the French were still trying to claim the place.

    Aug 30th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vulcanbomber

    The UK has no problems with the fact the French called the islands Malouines. Very much the same way they called lots of places names.

    The most important fact is that UK discovered, claimed and occupied the Falklands well before Argentina was founded and started spreading their blood around and taking neighbours lands.

    The UK stopped colonial expansion a long time ago, thats why many UK people find Argentina so funny, claiming Colonial UK when in fact, Argentina is a colonial country both past and continued into present.

    Argentina aim to take the Falklands as part of colonial expansion. They oppose the islanders right to remain as a UK territory and believe if they go for independence, they would stand a chance to invade, whereas in real terms, if the Falklands ever did claim independence, they would almost certainly remain in the commonwealth, and have the queen as head of state and therefore have the protection of the UK's Army Navy and airforce, all of which are superior.

    CFK has only been interested in boosting her personal wealth and grab the oil that her country cannot mine even inland at Bad Cow let alone at sea and with stealing companies stand no chance of international investment.

    No need for rude or crude responses, you know how it stands.

    Have you read http://www.cruising4holidays.com/destinations/americas/ushuaia.html

    Cruise ships are better off avoiding argentina now and visiting Falklands and Chile

    Aug 30th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    Who would want to sail to Argentina, not the rest of the world it appears

    Aug 30th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    What the Malvinistas never admit is that the UK claimed the Falkland Islands (well, at least the West Island), before the Spanish. So a French claim is more valid than any Spanish or Argentine claim because the UK settled the Falklands before the Spanish, but not before the French.

    And along time before The United Provinces of the River Plate tried it and Argentina when it was formed. In fact technically the only time 'Argentina occupied the Falklands was 3 months in 1982,

    Aug 31st, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falkland Islands

    What the argies don't actually realise is that they also buggered the name up. On some old official documents I have seen they refer to (maluinas) but then later on it is spelt with a V, so I guess their claim could also be invalid because they can't seem to be able to spell! It's a pretty crappy name whichever way you spell it...... The Falklands rules!!

    Sep 03rd, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @47
    Thanks for that I just looked it up-yes changing the name makes it invalid.
    I say Malvinas looks like 'Bad Vines'
    The name Falklands was used long before Malouines.
    Interesting that Top Malo is used, and we all know what happened there in 82.

    Sep 03rd, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argie

    @41 JUBA. You mean 'argie'? I'm Argie, so what? It's been my nom-de-plume for the past 40 years..

    Argtard and Argieland are stupid words from one who forgets that eng-land is the land of anglers, while Argtard means nothing, at least to me.

    On the other hand, scorn, as you'd surely know, is the homage that mediocrity renders to genius.

    What I and others here are against and ask Mercopress to delete immediately and throw the offenders to the dogs, is those who make use of direct personal insult, four-letter words even disguised, as well as expressions of very bad manners.

    We can hold positions of a very different nature or be even enemies at war, but manners are one of the prides of gentlemanship. If you had been born to a well raised family, or educated in an English college, you wouldn't need this to be explained to you.

    But it is good you asked for it gave me the opportunity of setting the record straight. Thank you.

    Sep 05th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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