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Argentine Security ministry tells local police not to follow Cristina Fernandez
Argentina’s Security Ministry issued a tough press release in response to the alleged police operative deployed by the Santa Cruz government in order to monitor the activities of President Cristina Fernández last weekend. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI knew I had seen the name Kirchner before... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048593/
Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess she doesn't want the local police to be seeing the bag men coming and going with all that stolen loot......
Nestor in his mausoleum, smelling rather funny,
Kristina in her nice hotel counting up her money.....
Anyone care to explain the underlying meaning of this? Why is there no contact with local police - you'd think there would be coordination with the president in their midst.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0She doesn't 'own' the local polis....?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0...and please don't watch her while she visits ATMs to withdraw cash she obtained, erm, legitimately....
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0One is left assuming this is about politics and that she doesn't want her movements/actions to become public knowledge. Maybe Argentine posters can enlighten us - beyond the ramblings of BK telling us how pretty she is?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 bags of dollars or another shipment of cash from Chav-ez.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lots of comedy but does anyone have a realistic/serious answer?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Couldn't see it happening in a first world country.
@7 I was being serious..... Le Campora meetings, Bag men, etc etc... bet if the press started following her around as happens to leaders in most countries they would be set upon by men with big sticks.....
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 I would speculate that she does not want the comings and goings of her man friend observed - it doesn't sit well with her widow-woman persona - but it seems a lot of Argentines know about him.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, it is possible she does not want recorded who she meets with and who visits her home; who she is doing deals with.
What does she have to hide? A rhetorical question I suppose. She and her family have certainly gone, if not quite from rags to riches, from moderately wealthy to extremely wealthy in a very short time under very dubious circumstances, whilst billions of $s of public funds have mysteriously gone astray.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can anybody imagine this in the UK or any other civilised country? Any British PM would happily welcome the attention and presence of local police. Inconceivable here that a government minister would contact any constabulary instructing them to ignore the presence and activities of the Prime Minister in the region covered by its jurisdiction. The local Police would rightly tell him to get lost, he'd be pilloried and have to resign. What a bizarre country Argentina appears to be.
how bizarre.... perhaps somebody cna offer a rational explanation as to what on earth this article is about...?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well maybe the local authorities are worried that she'll steal something, so they have the local constabulary following her. They'll probably pat her down before she is allowed to leave the province.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how good her security is compared to other nations? I wonder how well she trusts her own security?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Boovis “...and please don't watch her while she visits ATMs to withdraw cash she obtained, erm, legitimately....”
Sep 06th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can't see KFC using an ATM, the ones in Argentina don't dispense $s, what would she want with pesos? :))
@12.... speed reading your last I thought you had said 'put her down'... we can but wish.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe they would run the $$ sniffer dogs over her.
@14 especially ATMs that give you a two hundred pesos maximum per transaction...
You can get up yo 1,000 pesos at an ATM; providing of course, that you give the bank dollars or Euros in exchange.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Elaine is correct, it is pretty hard to play the grieving widow when you have a bunch of young men hanging around. Th rumor was the guy who mysteriously died in Montevideo at some economic summit was one of her favorites. If I had to guess I would think she would want to keep the others under wraps.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They can't do better? Is intimacy with CFK in lieu of incarceration?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol, only in Argentina!
Sep 06th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all the Americans and Brits that say Argentina will fail this year or early next....sadly for the Argentines, I don't think they'll get that lucky. I think Cristina might actually be able to pull off a proper switch to a North Korea-like country, or Venezuela-like, where she stays in power forever, the economy just slowly sinks every year more and more, and everyone is poor, but paid the same... in rice or arepas, lol.
Don't worry about not getting your laughs, though, this is an even funnier outcome than if they collapsed entirely and then rebuilt, this is a LASTING comedy! ;D
Mercopress loves to sh!t even on the anti-argie, racist against anything argie side. I must give them credit for that.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Argentina local police do not get involved whatsoever in the security of federal figures. They are only present in an area where a federal figuer is for keeping outsiders out of the environment or designanted area.
This is not Britain where there are no limits on police power or scope.
20 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
Sep 06th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sep 06th, 2012 - 04:10 pm
“Mercopress loves to sh!t even on the anti-argie, racist against anything argie side. I must give them credit for that.”
Tobias, this is a press release from OUR Ministerio de Seguridad, signed by Nilda Garré, it is no invented by Mercopress!!!
It is, however, understandable that the federal security agency wnts to keep tabs on the MBOA, rather than have the local police force involved, mainly because she is bi-polar and likely to do almost anything when she loses chemical balance.
@21
Sep 06th, 2012 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't get it, Mercopress puts this article to create more controversy against Argentina. They are a rabidly anti-Argentine outfit but of course you will deny that. Not my fault you lack any objectivity.
Local police has never been privy to providing security to federal government figures. End of story.
They only keep outsiders out of the area that the National security tells them to guard. Capisce?
I think it's the paid or get laid scenario. How much is she paying to get laid?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe she's “on the game” and doesn't want anyone to know.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what her scale of charges are - no, on second thoughts let's not go there.
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Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Captain....
Do you have any idea about which States have “” collective bargaining is permissable“” for public sector employees in USA ?
lol I wasn't trying to suggest she is running a brothel out of her home. But she does have a man whilst pretending to be the grieving widow. I suspect Nestor was a lot easier to love after his death; they used to fight something terrible by all accounts.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But more than that, she doesn't need anyone knowing who she is meeting and plotting with.
If she has nothing to hide, why even try to stop the local police from checking on her welfare?
@26
Sep 06th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You people are braindead.
“Local police has never been privy to providing security to federal government figures. End of story.”
Let me educated you and the rest of you: the first rule of security is to minimize risks. The fewer people you need to be on the look out for, the more resources and attention as you have fewer targets.
“Local police” are strangers to the presidential security, and allowing them to get near a leader is a security risk, since you don't know anything about their hiring process and their practices as local departments.
This is just increible, how fucking hypocritical and brain dead some are. If I posed the question why isn't Cameron or Obama checked upon by local police... guess what??? They would say that the Secret services would not permit that for security reasons.
What don't these dims get about that? It is standard security to keep as small a group around an important person as possible to minimize infiltration and security breaches.
#23 I do not agree with unions for tax paid, government workers. However out of 50 sovereign states and I only living in one of them which allows it, I really do not know, but too many I would guess. Why?
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TiT is a security agent now....tee hee hee. I suppsoe if they get close, they may “blast a cap in her ass” as the rappers say.
But hey.......even witches get their libido in gear. All the agony that is coming to argentina and her buying a new roll of toilet paper to rewrite the constitution for the 3 run at decimating argentina, probably has her climbing the walls at la casa rosado asking everyone.......”do I make you randy baby......well....do I?
@26 Elaine
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“lol I wasn't trying to suggest she is running a brothel out of her home.”
What???
I really thought that Casa Rosada was the name of a famous Argentine brothel.
Everybody talks lots about it, but nobody approves of it. :-)
@27 The Metropolitan Police provide security at 10 Downing Street..........
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Sep 06th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Getting lectured on security by an Argentinian....how fucking ironical is that?
Like a nazi lecturing on the value of human life.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is a federal nation-state. As such unlike in the UK, local police forces are separate entities and do not answer directly to nationwide forces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism
As you can see, the vast majority of nations are not federal, usually only the larger ones where vast distances make everything going through one capital city to be cumbersome.
@31
Getting lectured on self-determinationa by a Brit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalism
Like a pig lecturing on hygiene!
I wish Captain Poppy could do something for his “country”.... USA Debt Clock..
Sep 06th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tic tic tic
You are all a bunch of fucking fools. You all claim to have travelled up and down Argentina (of course I believe none of you), and how shockingly poor it is. lol
Sep 06th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you don't realize is how pathetic, ridiculous and doltish fools you are writing such things. If you travelled up and down the country is because there was the infraestrucutre, the cities, the economic motive for you to do so. And the fact that it was safe enough for you to do so.
You fools have no precious clue what real poverty, lack of infraestructure, and insecurity and risk to oneself is don't you?
You spit on Argentina yet you yellows woudn't dare to travel through Central America, Venezuela, the Amazon, most of Africa and the middle east, big chunks of Asia, etc, etc.
You like creature conforts and some sense of safety... you played it safe and stuck to Argentina. I understand. You are like those ungrateful immigrants that bash the country that received them. Argentina this argie that... but none of you have the guts to go to really poor and unsafe place, so you bash us.
Your welcome for being exposed. :)
I have to admire your persistence. It is charming. However you do realize, let the la campora supers know as well, that quoting wikipedia is like reading a comic book and claiming to be a literary classic reader.
Sep 06th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What motivates other non south americans to write is of no concern to me. My reasons are my connections and concerns for the people that I love that are still trapped there.
As I stataed before, south america has every right to do as they please is the will of the people move them so. And if the will of the people chooses that based of real information to them. That being said, if they wish to close imports, move to a one party centralized committee for a government.....so be it. But do not expect the free world to change for you benefit. One hand washes another. All the countries that argentina has issues and take exception to have not changed to rules for argentina, rather that are now playing my argentina's rule and that is what troubles cfk the most. I believe the saying is......paying you back with the coin you used?
#1 The funny thing is that I recently found and read an old copy of a book by Frank Bettger, the father of Lyle Bettger, the actor playing the Nazi Kirchner in the film you linked to. Its a self help book for salesmen, the last kind of book the capitalists on here would associate with me, but I actually liked it...
Sep 07th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0In most threads I'd leave it there, I think the quirkiness of that true story best stands alone. But. The posts above are some of the most fevered racings I've ever seen, and cry out for a reply. TTT is probably right that this is an non-story blown out of proportion by the anti-Argies; the other possibility is that an opposition controlled police force really has been harassing the President; if some Democrat Governor had opened a local case against Bush, or a Republican Governor against Obama, would the Americans on here really think that was normal?!
And Elaine and yankeeboy, get your smears straight! Is the lovely Cristina secretly going out with one long term man, or a whole gang of toyboys (one of whom yankee insinuates she had killed)?! And does she need to pay for sex or do others pay her for it?! I really don't like even repeating such garbage, but in the distilled form I've just presented it I hope people will see it as the nonsense it is...
And as for the person who said she'd turn Argentina into North Korea, do you really think I'd support her if that were true? After apreciating Mr Bettger senior's book? =)
@17 YankeeNobody
Sep 07th, 2012 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are worthless!
@33 Tit .. 'Argentina is a federal nation-state. As such unlike in the UK, local police forces are separate entities and do not answer directly to nationwide forces.'
Sep 07th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please let us all know how you understand the UK police to be organised... you being an expert and all....... especially what the 'nationwide force' is..
@38 sussie 2012 LOL
Sep 07th, 2012 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say you are a man now! LOL
Make up your mind - you insisted you were Susana Brown before, a woman thT was as ugly as CFK on a bad day!!
Are you out of hospital now?
Sewn up up your wrists and put you on proper meds???
Being unemployed in the ghetto, you must be bored.
Against your Doctor's orders, here you are back to visit. You'll be drinking gin and crying about your “Papi” soon...
@35 Who are you rambling to? Have you ever even cut the apron strings ?
Sep 07th, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just this year I was working in a very small LatAm country where 100 murders per week is the usual body count. Armed robbery, kidnapping and rape were a daily occurrence. Was it a lot more dangerous than Argentina? Yes. Was the poverty more grinding? Yes, though I had seen similar poverty in some rural parts of Argentina. I don't really see your point because crime and poverty in Argentina is still bad. It is not the WORST in LatAm by any stretch of the imagination but that doesn't make it GOOD. If someone wanted a really safe country in SoAm they would choose Chile, not Argentina.
@37 Try to read my posts if you want to clarify my position. CFKC has one chap she has been seeing for quite some time - some say even when Nestor was still alive. That is perfectly fine and normal. However, it is not normal for a woman to be wearing widow-weeds for two years after the death of her husband whilst carrying on a relationship with another man. Do you understand now? It is just another one of her falsehoods.
I would suggest to the local police force that they use unmarked cars in future.
'CFKC has one chap she has been seeing for quite some time' Come on Elaine...name names...
Sep 07th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0'I would suggest to the local police force that they use unmarked cars in future' Black Falcons??
#41 “it is not normal for a woman to be wearing widow-weeds for two years after the death of her husband whilst carrying on a relationship with another man”
Sep 07th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its probably more common than you think!
Let's hope her new man doesn't knock her about like the last one did. She's a silly cow but doesn't deserve domestic violence.
Sep 07th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 043
Sep 07th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is more common than Think.
Quite honestly, it really is a non issue that deserves no headline. Howver, I only question why that there needed to be a “tough press” release regarding the interactions of federal and local police?
Sep 07th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Hey Hey!...can the UK royals advice Prince Harry about his sex addiction...Hey Hey Hey...read my comments about Dirty Harry posted in the Economist Hey Hey Hey...
Sep 07th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure idf they allow you to know this 2012 aha sussie USA, but Harry is not a leader, he's a pilot in the military. Him being in the news is something like fatsmo kirchner being in the news, except the Harry is liked and not the evil offspring.
Sep 07th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 Captain Poppy (#)
Sep 07th, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sep 07th, 2012 - 01:45 pm
Probably because the Santa Cruz police were on strike for a long time against the Kirchnerist government of the province!!!!
Hey Hey Hey no excuses Conqueror ....
Sep 07th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0read The Economist....
you can read my comments about Prince Harry The Arse....hey hey hey
@20 “Limits on police power”? I get it now. As well as being thick, you're blind and deaf as well! Here's a little article for you to read. http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/07/you-only-have-to-fear-god-and-me-a-little-bit-cristina-fernandez-scolds-ministers
Sep 07th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it beyond you? Argieland (the cesspit) is a dictatorship, with a little, badly applied, veneer!
@22 Brainless fool. We need nothing in order to “create more ”controversy“ about argieland. It isn't ”controversy“, it's hatred and disgust. Anal, cheating, greedy, ignorant, lying, stupid, thieving turds!
@27 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Doesn't everybody in the cesspit LURV CFK? Who could possibly want to
hurt the old slag? Apart from the obvious 60,003,000!
@33 Can I correct your statement? It's ”Argentina is a federal state.“ We'll let you know when you can call yourself a ”nation”. Please hold your breath. Shouldn't take more than two or three hundred years. Maybe!
@34 Argieland's Debt Clock? Boooiiiinnngggg!
@35 Oh dear. The little wanker's losing it! You have so much idea of how bad things could be, do you? While mummy and daddy are paying all the bills. Poor little Campora student tosspot. Just as a matter of interest, can you think of anyone else so worth bashing? Not to mention, kicking in the teeth, stamping on the only flat ball. Not to mention a sharp stake up the jacksie. Nobody could be more deserving!
@37 Please, please, please travel to argieland. You so deserve to suffer and die with the other pricks! But congratulations for finally managing to string together more than two sentences. You have such an effect. No sooner do I see your nom de poo and I reach for the bucket.
@43 Always best if you want to sneak around at night, don't you find?
@44 Why not?
@47 Why? It's not as though it would be intelligent. Or intelligible. Or worth reading. Or worth any effort.
@50 Thanks, faecal matter. Proved my point. I'm sure you are an expert on (taking it up) the Arse.
Simon perhaps security are worried that the local police may cap her.
Sep 07th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Sep 07th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie:
“an expert at taking it up the arse!” LOL LOL LOL
Sussie, you are the only one consistently obsessed with arses!!
Remember your stories...
@Sussie/Sybil/susanna brown/guzz
“Cristina looks like me after a day of work. As a working woman I understand her. I am a strong Argentinean woman and not matter what you say I will be here for 4 more years.
Those people who copy me...///... you can’t copy me, I am Susana Brown.
I do live in US. I came here to escape from my town in Patagonia. I grew up there but when was I very just being sexually active girl I was looked after by a Peruvian worker. He used to pick me up on way back from school. I didn’t like him first but then I like to call him papi. When I got pregnated for the first time by him my baby looked like a Peruvian. My parents sent me to USA. Here I have to work real hard turning lots of tricks, lots of man...sometimes 15 a day. But im proud, im gonna get back to Patagonia and buy some land better than the falklands.
BUT LETS FACE THE FACTS:
I miss my Peruvian papi, he liked my rossy arse. He used to screw my arse all day
Bang, bang, bang, pppuuurrrrrrfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
But now my arse get screwed all day by many men and some don’t pay just
Bang, bang, bang, pppuuurrrrfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!
Drip, drip, my poor rossy arse.”
Turkey neck doesn't want to end up like Evita.
Sep 08th, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine security forces are a bit kinky at the best of times.
UK Queen=rubbish bloody vagina neck=all UK men!
Sep 08th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
@55 sussie/2012/Susana/
Sep 09th, 2012 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Victor/Victoria LOL
take some more Crack, and lay back and think of men's arseholes.
You'll feel better, I'm sure :-D
The goddess at work endorsing pork. You have to see this to believe this. This was around the time she was giving free fish out at Puerto Madero
Sep 12th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ1VFIyhQbA&feature=player_embedded
@55 Sussie 2012
Sep 12th, 2012 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been “PORKED” lately???
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
jeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeejeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!
$20 a pork roll U$ that is
Sep 12th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie and Ozzy Sunshine have been very quiet today.
Sep 12th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps they are getting a good cuff over the back of the head from La Campora!
However, we can still see Sussie/2012 on TV, dressed as CFK
#2 Check out this video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIt1wWHDST8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
VIVA SUSSIE/CFK !! LOL
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