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In 2015, “if it’s not Cristina, it will be whoever Cristina nominates as candidate”
The possibility of a constitutional review in Argentina opening the way for the re-re-election of President Cristina Fernandez was again put to consideration by one of her staunch followers who nevertheless anticipated “if it’s not Cristina, in 2015 it will be whoever Cristina nominates as candidate”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAn extra term of office for Christina, then another, then another. El presidente for life. Argentines must enjoy having a lemon for their leader.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0GO CRIS GO!! 2015 CRITINA'S PRESIDENT!!
Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0And so the dictatorship continues, the Argentines must be truly proud of their democracy, or truly stupid!
Sep 18th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a remarkably fucked up system.... I don't think the average argentinian would know democracy if it bit them on the arse...
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinians are used to dictatorships or dictatorial governments.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0The country could survive any change in its constitution.
It will simply live at an ever lower level. Its people are used to this also.
I think Argentina deserves to have CFK as president until the day she dies - followed by Maximo.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0At last here is something we can agree on. Argentine commentators want Christina again....and so do we. She has made the Falklands stronger and more resilient, more confident and more self reliant.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hope she has done as well for you.
And so goes democracy in argentina......down the drian in a single flush.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0got to say shes done a cracking job with the economy..
Sep 18th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“[T]hose participating in the demonstrations were the same that supported military coups”. Is that so? Funny, because the last military coup was 36 years ago - when at least half of Thursday's demonstrators had not even been born or were still toddlers.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way....does any of you know who this Depetri is? He is a useless and good for nothing person that reached the Chamber of Lawmakers because of the CFK blessing.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saddly, most of the people here cannot understand Spanish otherwise you would be able to realize how stupid this guy is....this is a clear example of the reasons why part of the political class support CFK.
Another exaplme of Peronist fascist !!!!
Queen, no Santa Christia Preisdente for live. How bloody sociapathic can you be to believe that you are the only one who can do a good job and therefore you should be allowed to do what you want when you want and either a) ignore the requirment for elections or b) fix elections (like lowering the voting age to impressanbale 16 year olds who are more prone to vote along nationilst sentimental lines). This is the start to brining back what Peronism started as FACISM. If Argentina wants to become a pirah nation with no global power when go ahead and chnage the consitution, if it wants to be taken seriously then keep the constitution and move towards clsoer tioes with the world instead of this crazy inwould looking demogogery,
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Nobody can launch candidates outside the leadership and decision of the President of the Nation, Cristina Fernandez”. DePetri, Argentina's 'lawmaker'
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that Argentina's laws are in the usual good hands.
I guess this is the man who will manage the change in the Constitution - if it seems politically possible. Otherwise, anticipate a 'Puppet President' for the next term.
Any bets on the front-runners?
Surely his statement at the start of my posting does not represent his legal understanding,
for, if it were the case, only CFK or those sanctioned by her could stand in the election for President.
11 pgerman
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think all of us, whether we can speak Espanol or not, understand what this character is.
AND, if he is stupid, I presume he was elected by the Argentinean people, or what is he doing as 'a lawmaker'?
The electorate need to understand one thing: they deserve what they get when they elect these despotic numb-nuts. It's THEIR fault!
@13 All hail Santa Christian el nuevo Evita y la puta madre.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My bet is on fat max, she cant afford for the power to be outside of the new royal family of Argentina and its elected for life philophy. The Kirchiner have had 14 years now to make a difference and have only managed to go backwards unless of course we are talking about their personel fortunes rather than those of the nation.
His first statement to me pretty much admits that should CFk want to run for a 3rd term they will go for consitution chnage. This is to me admission that they are willing to trample over citizens rights to ensure they hold power at all costs.
So we have another day of threats from the government (they must be VERY worried):
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge Coscia, Minister of Culture, said: “We know how to take the streets”.
Sen. Anibal Fernandez also risked an assessment of street protest. He said he was “armed professionals” because “there were hundreds and thousands of false identities” created in social networks to call the march.
So, La Campora are frustrated that they cannot trace the FB users and use violence on them. Of course they are not going to use their real identities when Fat Max is waddling around with his thugs in tow.
And still they are trying to make out it was only the rich protesting. If they are going to make the rich the villains then CFKC is Number One Villain as she is RICH and a THIEF and a LIAR and IN HIDING, not making public appearances and holding an emergency meeting with her Ministers. As one put it, the response will depend on 'the mood and will of the President'. Is she in a manic phase or suicidal?
@2 Nazi!!
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Nobody can launch candidates outside the leadership and decision of the President of the Nation, Cristina Fernandez”. Is that right? Ever seen a better demonstration of a dictatorship?
“we listened to a very, very strong and disqualifying speech” from protestors “clearly confronted with the national government “. Protest is ”disqualifying“, is it? Nazis!
“There is a clear link in all these events, which has seen this social sector vote against the government and has also seen it support any demonstration against this model of national development”, pointed out Depetri. Translation: The people are demonstrating against the government. The ”government“ doesn't like this. ”National development“ = CFK and supporters' profit! CFK's ”fortune“ is up to at least US$15 million now. Argieland - blatant corruption by criminals. In any ”normal” democratic country, CFK would be in prison.
Keep dreaming of staying in power after 2015, you're going down. Even it it means voting for Macri to put you out of the office.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody is indispensable, and you along with all the CFK goons arent.
Get fucking over it.
Dear ChrisR,
Sep 18th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm Engineer and not Sociologist so I cannot explain your comments.
I know that the Peronist Party is not a democratic one, there are not intenal elections so everything, and everyone, is chosen by the leader on duty based on submissiveness and the blind following of her decisions. Following this political behaviour it's not that difficult that people like Depetri reaches the Chamber.
In addition, there is an election system called “lista sabana”, Spanish for electoral blanket list, that forces people to vote a whole group of people based on the first one or two candidates of the list. This system would be changed but CFK forced its continuity.
Scioli
Sep 18th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As I have said before, if Cristina runs I will support her. However, as she herself was said, first we still have a mandate to fulfil”.
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I desperately want to run for presidency but she knows about my affair with a rent boy.
In the USA, a mandate is an OVERWHELMING majority........like 70%-75%. 54% and they call that a mandate????
Sep 18th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And so the corruption goes on and on and on and on and on. Are the people who live In Argentina really that stupid. It seems they are.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22 No the majority are not stupid. But when they know no other way........
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, CFKC and her army of thugs are forever bleating about the 54%. We all know that of the 70% of Argentines eligible to vote, 1/3rd did not bother for various reasons - some said that all politicians are corrupt so why bother - and of the remaining voters, 54% voted CFKC in. Some were voting with their political conviction, some were paid to vote, and some fell for the widow-woman promising them the earth. But, significantly, many that did vote for her say they would never vote for her again, given the choice. So, there is hope.
I heard them actually say they voted for her because they felt sorry for her. That floored me. I am sure there definitely regret that move. They are many countries that have voter apathy and sick of all politicians.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine are you familiar enough with the representation(congress) there to know if they draw up districts in each province to have a elected representative for each district, or are they basically x number of representatives elected at large for the entire province?
Not in my words but......
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The National Congress (Congreso Nacional) has two chambers. The Chamber of Deputies of the Nation (Cámara de Diputados de la Nación) has 257 members, elected for a four-year term in each electoral district (23 Provinces and the Autonomous city of Buenos Aires) by proportional representation using the D'Hondt method, with half of the seats renewed every two years in all districts. The Senate of the Nation (Senado de la Nación) has 72 members, elected for a six-year term in three-seat constituencies (23 provinces and the Autonomous city of Buenos Aires) for a six year term, with two seats awarded to the largest party or coalition and one seat to the second largest party or coalition. One-third of the constituencies are renewed every two years. In 2001 the whole senate was renewed.
So that's clear then. : )
We have a different system in the UK. You vote for a candidate in your local constituency. The candidate with the majority wins. The party with the most candidates across the country forms the government. (Actually, they ask The Queen if they have her permission to form a government - this prevents the Prime Minister from forgetting they are there to serve the people and are not the new messiah, though TB was inclined to forget).
A correction: “The candidate with the majority wins” is not true - it is merely the candidate that gets the most votes that wins. That's why it's called the 'first past the post' system
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have two houese....senate and the lower house. Two senators (at large) to a state for equal represention regardless of size, all six year terms with 1/3 being elected every three years. The lower house, the House of Representives represent the people based on population. Each state is sliced in districts. The districts change based on census data. Sometimes states gain representatiion, sometimes they lose represention. Each are elected to two year terms.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the lower house that tends to change the most based on the moods of the people. Angry Americans tend to toss the them out rather quickly.
19 pgerman
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry about confusing you with my cynical comment.
In reality, these sorts of claims by politicians are obvious for what they are: attempts to rig the voting for a president. :o)
@27
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Couldnt resist having a little dig (I have an American Wife) why doesnt the senator from DC have any voting power?
lol
@25 Do Argentines vote the president and govenor seperate to voting for senators and representiaves?
@26. Quite right, thank you. : )
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 029. DC is not a State so our delegate has no voting power in Congress. There are a lot of people who want to make DC a state but it will never happen.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 cheers I was being an arse. I believe the signs say something about no taxation without representation dont they?
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, I think they could rally support for the “no taxation ” but not the representation part.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol well it is an election year.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#29 DC is special they get all 100 assholes....I mean Senators representing their needs....lol and all 435 mini me's to boot. See how special DC. 535 for a population of 617K not too bad lol. But DC was never meant for a population other than politicans believe it or not.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True! It is a well thought out plan though and I think one of the reasons The USA is so successful, can you imagine if the Fed Govt was located in its largest city like most of the rest of the world? All the power, $ and corruption in one place. Not good.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0once a dicky, always a dicky,
Sep 18th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0once a ship, now sunk .lol.
It really was well thought out so not one state can benefit from location of the feds.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Them trolls is getting hungry so lets throw em a bone to gnaw on article by Ingeborg Hellige in the Berliner Tageblatt. Watch the reactions!
Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The possibility of a constitutional review in Argentina opening the way for the re-re-election of President Cristina Fernandez”
Sep 18th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has anyone stopped to ask why?
why does she want to be re-re-elected?
What is there left for her to do?
She constantly embarrasses herself on the world stage, she is the laughing stock at the UN, the country is getting more and more protectionist every day and the economy is in the toilet.......
Why does she want to stay in power? If I was KFC I would be running to hills right about now and getting as far away from Argentina as I could, what is there for her now?
she can not possibly think that the people will re elect her can she? she can not possibly think that her presidency will last to the next election, let alone AFTER 2015 can she?
if she does then she is truely, truely batsh*t crazy................
the trolls have legged it, again.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 They only come out after dark
Sep 18th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#42 like cockroaches
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How long til Argentine homicide rates match Venezuela's?
Sep 19th, 2012 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Depetri seems to basically be saying what I've been saying on here for a while, that either Cristina or a Cristinista will be the candidate. Has he been reading my posts or more likely have I been reading the situation better than the haters on here (whose bile in the first few comments alone is really sickening)? Only thing he says I'm not so sure about is on the counter march issue, obviously its a tactic that may or may not be useful and I can see why the government doesn't want to come across agressive, but at some point I think a counter-protest or rally to show who the people really support could become necessary. Oh and if even a right-winger like Scioli has to pay at least lip-servive to re-election, don't rule it out =)
Sep 19th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 045 BK
Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really need to rethink the value of your existence and deal with it accordingly!
What kind of government would initiate a pro government protest. Real governments do not take sides against their people be they supporters or detractors of the government.
Sep 19th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The cockroaches are coming!
We should all remember that the Scottish wanker is, by his own admission, a communist at heart.
Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If only he had the courage (and the finances) to actually go to Argentina I would put money on it that he wouldn't last a month.
Chris that would be facing reality and that reality would be a shock to his convictions. Rather than adjust and adapt, it is mush easier to not deal with reality. While I've always enjoyed being in Argentina, it's not the Land of Oz and happy munchkins that he thinks live there.
Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.Capitanic ??
Sep 19th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0probable but there is another nominee by similar origin.
Yes please more of the self destruct policies that will force Argentina to devalue the Peso. When the dollars run out no one will lend money to Argentina as it is regarded as a pariah state by international banks.
Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps they can trade in a new currency,
Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rats and mice,
thats one rat, and 3 mices please,
and two droppings change..
Ja wohl Ostmarks bitte!
Sep 19th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52
Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaak. Such stupid comment.
Typical of a rubbish bloody english generic gay.
Hey, go to sleep, stupid child!
All is well, carry on your leader has spoken, the Reich will soon repel the Russian forces from the outskirts of berlin..carry on....any news from foreign sources is lies..that is all
Sep 19th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina burns and ass lip sits around waiting for her daily botox in her eyebrows and suction of her ass fat into her lips.....the really important things.
Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope everything is clear for outsiders, we Argentine love CFK and will vote for her or her preferred candidate to president as most Argentine will. The English are going to need to do a lot of trashing of CFK to convince anyone to vote against CFK, CFK has done better in 4 years then the last 200 years, people should read a little history before talking trash and BS.
Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 057 PH
Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously you've had so much cum pumped up your ass that its starting to back-up your brain and come out your ears! Get your partners to wear a condom.
54% use to like her......better than the last 200 years......that explains a lot of the antiquated systems. I will never forget trying to mail a postcard in Buenos Aires........wtf No mailboxes......you wait in line for hours..........progress!
Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0the only ones who like her now,
Sep 20th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0are the brain dead, indocronoughts,
and those impersonating them,
2012 is turning out to be a bad year for CFK,
perhaps 2013, will be better,
[when she finaly goes]
@59 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
Sep 20th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here in the USA only a few mail boxes are found on certain streets because the USA citizen crooks likes to steal the mail box (cemmented on the ground) to get letters, checks, and to obtain identification from USA citizens.
The USA Post Office has a deficit of 8 billons dollars, several posts offices branches have close and elemination of Saturday delivery is on the table for possible elemination.
@ 60 Briton Mr.drip drip drip
The year of 2012 is a horrendous annus for the UK Queen “vagina neck”
desire to pretend she is “royal”....Prince Harry “the Arse” and Prince William's wife known as the “Ink Tits” proves their addiction to indecent exposure...
What can you do?
Nothing.
Why?
Because the english people are rubbish bloody!
Any mailbox (unless you llive in the country) you can drop a letter for .41 cents and can get from NYC to Los Angeles in 3 days
Sep 20th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-09-18/argentina-s-dollar-bonds-tumble-after-imf-threatens-censure
2012
Sep 20th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....
101 days to go,
and you can join that other dead loser,
he he he .
@ 63 briton “the stupid child”
Sep 21st, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just respond you comment! Your Rectum Relief....(R&R)
You are known as the Generic Gay Briton, the one with the pink arse!
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaajaaaaaaaaaaa
briton.....if 2012 is an example of an argentina debator, it's no wonder argentina is a mess. I guess 2012 thinks it's a master at debating with responses like that. 2012 is a master debator alright.
Sep 21st, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 064 2012
Sep 21st, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one hundred days to go,
and we dont even know who the impersonater is,
still,
dead is dead,
@65 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
Sep 21st, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 65 Briton Jack the Ripper
The rubish bloody english men are known worldwide!
lol
briton you're optimistic to think she will make it the 100 days.....99 tomorrow.
Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0ass lips kirchner is receiving the Mexican president tonight......my only wonder......on all fours or just her knees?
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Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.flickr.com/photos/qeclasscarriers/
Thinking of you Argies,
We thought you all might like to see this,
Apparently your coin celebrates the recovery of the islands, but is worth only [26 pence] WOW,
You have recovered NOTHING,
CFK has given you nothing,
2012,
Your tongue is far to advanced for your brain.
And there is only 99 days to go,
@57
Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“CFK has done better in 4 years then the last 200 years, ”
Before Peron started messing about with Argentina it was in the top 5 richest countries in the world in the early 20th century.
By the way, Pirate, that's less than 200 years ago.
Any idiot can work out that in the last four years Argentina is a long, long way from being in the top 5 countries in the world.
@57
“people should read a little history before talking trash and BS.”
Starting with you, Mr Pirate.
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