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Timerman obtains Colombian support for Malvinas claim and UK/Argentina talks

Saturday, September 22nd 2012 - 05:22 UTC
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Foreign minister Hector Timerman thanked the Colombian government for supporting Argentine legitimate claims over the Malvinas Islands and for calling for a resumption of negotiation with the UK to find a peaceful solution to the South Atlantic islands dispute. Read full article

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  • puerto argentino

    thanks Colombian government for supporting Argentine legitimate claims over the Malvinas Islands !!!!!!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    What does Columbia have to do with it???

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Troy Tempest

    And what does Britain have to do with it?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    @4 I don't know - the islanders have tried to hold discussions with Argentina but for some reason they keep asking to talk to the UK about it instead. Maybe you should direct your question to the Argentinian government?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Titman... dopey fucker that he is ... had Indonesia declaring support last week...

    Meanwhile Indonesia's foreign minister said 'Who or what was that? Where is Argentina? What is Argentina???'

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @1
    The claims are not legitimate.
    This has been shown many times on these posts and no Malvanista has successfully proved that Britain's claim from 1690 is illegitimate by reason of occupation, discovery etc etc.

    Still, Argentina it amuses many to see you continually hitting your head on a brick wall while your country flounders in the shit of its own making.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Lets hope thet the current incumbents of Gilbert House send a clear message,in her own language,to Maria Angel Holguin pointing out the errors in Hectors 'legitimate rights'.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Surely the RG's must know that they are getting and will get nowhere with this Falklands crap. Also surely the rest of SA must know this.

    I really cant see why they do this.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    War is comming,
    we dont want it,
    but you desperatly do,
    the world is in a mess,
    and you brain dead fools are marching to war,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    all you will achieve is the same place in hell with the rest of them,
    hitler, stalin , bla bla .
    you never learn do you.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @8 Because it is easy to placate the Mad One with soothing noises about agreeing with her over the Falklands (whilst making sure there is a clear exit from the room should they utter a mistaken word). They know nothing is going to change with regards to the Falklands, so why anger their ASBO neighbour. Easy.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @9 briton,
    You are right.
    There will be a war.
    They will try again.
    @1 port something-or-other
    Your silly country's claims are illegitimate & ridiculous.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1 You have no legitimate claims!
    @3 The Falkland Islands are a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY! Do you get the connection, dumbo? Britain and British!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    Christina is outnumbered . 40,000,000 Argies. against 2,500 Falkland Islanders, that`s about 16,000 / 1. Therefore she needs the moral support of other S.A. countries to even things up. And , are the other S.A. nations really interested in her gab or just appeasing her for peace & quiet ?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @briton

    You need to have a proper army first, some money and carriers...

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    Which is béàtifùl ?

    Màldivas ?
    Màlvinas ?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Colombia? Didnt Daniel Ortega president of Nicaragua call that country an imperialiast and expansionist power on one occasion?Columbia does of course occupy the San Andres archipelago close to the Nicaraguan coast and many miles away from the Colombian shoreline

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brucey-babe

    @14. DunyBerger.
    We don`t need carriers for your lot, catapults should keep Argentina`s bravest warriors at bay.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    ”Colombian support for the legitimate rights of Argentina in the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas, Georgia del Sur and Sandwich del Sur Islands and the adjoining maritime spaces”

    Gracias Colombia!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Having lived in Colombia on two occasions for several years I believe this alleged support for Argentina will only be “lip service” - just to keep la Kretina and Timerman quiet. When “push comes to shove” the only true support that Argentina has is from Venezuela, Cuba, Ecuador, Bolivia and Nicaragua. The other nations are not too fond of Argentina or, at least, not fond enough to commit themselves to anything more than lip service - it is called diplomacy.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    Thank you Colombia!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Not just Uk and talks but Falkland Islanders participation as well is a must in any talks. It has to be recognised that we are a peopl with rights. Something Argentina does not believe. The UN rightly made a formal complaint to the Argies to stop their campaign against the indigenous people. Falkland islanders are also an indigenous people wether Argentina likes it or not. Remember the Indigenous people who first arrived in South America came from somewhere just like we on the Islands did.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    @22 Let me correct yourself... it`s not only Argentina.
    It`s the whole Latinamerica that does not recognize you.
    As per the countries of the continent you belong to, you`re an intergal part of Argentina. :)

    http://tiempo.infonews.com/2012/09/16/argentina-86041-malvinas-diputados-frustraron-una-maniobra-inglesa-en-foro-hemisferico.php

    Another British diplomatic failure:

    Two British legislators assisted the IX Plenary Assembly of ParlAméricas in Panama. They said they represented the “Falkland Islands”.
    Argentina, with the support of most of the countries, made sure the British had no vote. There were not event given the permission to express their opinion since they don`t represent an independent country, but an island part of the argentine territory in a particular colonial situation. They could only stay as observers.

    How do you like them apples?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    22 Islas Malvinas (#)
    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 03:44 pm

    Vos sí sos repelotudo!!!!

    The MLA's were invited by Canada as OBSERVERS. Boludo!!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islas Malvinas

    Failure

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @22 IM /(FI)

    There is always this strange and somewhat racist concept of LatAm countries being against the “Anglos” who are seen as “encroaching on their patch”- particularly after losing any kind of rational argument about rights to self determination and specious RG sovereignty claims - that gets trotted out out by some of the RG posters on this forum as the next line of defence (after that, next stop the Chagos Islanders)

    The Falklands would, of course, like to enjoy cordial relations with all its LatAm neighbours (and it does with Chile and Uruguay who recognise the de facto government on the Falklands but just pay Argentina lip service to shut the Mad Bitch up) but it is not a LatAm country - it identifies far more as being a South Atlantic entity with strong links with St Helena (as witnessed by the number of Saints on the island) and the Antarctic community. Not a big “club” I know - but there you are.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JuanGabriel

    Apparently tinman also detected a nuclear submarine off the coast of colombia during the talks, he will provide CFK with briefing slides for her UN performance, here is the photograph of the submarine in question

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ble0_-nBOnk/TgtqK58scpI/AAAAAAAAA84/Y1tpCMPa0FQ/s1600/yellow-submarine.gif

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    22 Islas Malvinas
    Great article, those two Englishmen failed as usual.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @26 Juan

    Only the sophisticated “Defense Forces” of Argentina could have detected and identified this threat.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Another country merely paying lip service to the Botox Queen and the Tin Man. This item is more than likely down in 999th place or lower in the Columbian agenda of importance.

    Just wait till they both have a trade dispute - it won't be long before they fall out.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    26 JuanGabriel
    Wrong picture, here is the correct one.

    “Dumb British Submarine Stuck In Mud”

    http://wonkette.com/427479/dumb-british-submarine-stuck-in-mud

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    30.... Jajaja at least it wasn't sunk like your glorious sante fe submarine in the Falklands. the deadly sub was sunk by a handful of marines and a little helicopter jajajajaj

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Any Argie care to tell me what this support actually means?

    I am struggling to identify any actual ramifications of this?

    If there are no ramifications in terms of punative actions against the UK then why have you Argies just got an erection? Are your standards that low!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @22
    ”intergal part of Argentina. :)”
    No, they are islands over 300 miles off the coast of Argentina, and an integral part of the Falkland Islands.

    Argentina has never owned the Falkland Islands except in their dreams, as the occupation in 1982 was contested, and not accepted by the local population.
    Tough.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @31
    Aye and why was it sunk, because it was so badly maintained they could not submerge it, if they were like that 30 years ago, imagine what they are like now, rust buckets only good for growing barnacles on.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    14 DanyBerger

    You need to have a proper army first, some money and carriers

    You are running out of time,2015, the carriers will be here,
    And CFK will be no more,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    18 Marcos Alejandro
    20 Islas Malvinas
    It does not matter who supports you in peace time,
    When the shit hits the fan [and it will]
    Let us all see where your supporters are then.
    You will be alone, all alone, and very lonely
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    26 JuanGabriel
    The R/N visited Columbia last week,
    Amazing how nothing was said,
    .

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Courtesy of RN News.
    On her first visit to Colombia, £1bn destroyer HMS Dauntless provided the impressively steely setting for defence talks between the two nations.

    After patrols of the North and South Atlantic, the Portsmouth-based Type 45 destroyer has spent the past couple of weeks in the warmer waters of the Caribbean: first Barbados and now Cartagena, Colombia’s historic northern port city.

    Actions speak louder than words, don't you think?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    typicle argie liars..

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I particularly liked the bit about defence talks, now that must be really galling for some, UK and Columbia holding defence talk. Pity Tinman was not there at the same time, he could have gone and seen for himself what a real ship looks like.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Timerman is struggling to get real people to support his motives so squeezes his little neighbours to get it. Bet you bottom dollar that all those who are reffered to as supporting Argentina are doing so because they are scared shitless of them. Wheras we Islanders are not afraid to speak out when required and more importantly we are not araid to support others in need.
    I wonder if CFK is actually going to the Un on a real mission or is it to get away from the people she has hurt th emost who now want revenge, yes her own fellow country men and women.
    One day Argentina will rise up and put down dictators once and for all and then it will be a Country worth associating with but untill that day comes the Falkland islanders and every other peace loving nation will treat them with total suspicion.
    All of you on this story who live in Argentina and who are shouting from the roof tops in defence of Timerman do so because they have most to loos if they admitted their true feelings.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    After seeing Dauntless in port the Columbians will be only too glad to wave and cheer as the Argentine and Veneuzuelan navies set sail to attack the Falklands, and then put bets on how long it will take for them to reach the ocean bed.
    Perhaps they will have bets on whether Dauntless, Ground to air misssiles, or the massive force of Typhoons will shoot down the most aircraft.

    Columbia: Dear Latam comrades, We are so sorry your brave attempt to exert your claim over the Falklands ended with your ships becoming sea bed wildlife reserves, your aircraft being used as target drones and five of your airfields loosing their tarmac.
    We are sorry we have no money to give you and do not share your ambitions of suicide but we will pay to send a few pikeys from the UK to re-tarmac your runways.

    Love Columbia

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    IsMalv and Marcos- both fantasists! How could the Islanders parliamentarians taken part in an organsisation we are not members of!!!! We were there as invited OBSERVERS - ie Guests if you like!
    That means our folks there met with other Americas parliamentarians in small unnoficial meetings, parties and receptions etc - perfectly normal standard stuff that “obserers” do at these and similar meetings around the world.
    Now - you of course know that Arg apealed to the Comittee to get the Islands ejected and observer status cancelled - and the Committee Members - turned DOWN the Arg request - get used to reality please!
    As for Columbias “support” - well lets wait and see just how solid it is!
    As for all the solid S American support you claim - can either of you explain how 3 S.American countries with whom we trade - refer to us on all official documents as the Falkand Islands- or Islas Falklands?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Oh please, Pete. lol.
    All that is make up. Reality is… What England has to offer to Colombia and Latam to support them and of course to the rest of the world as well.
    What’s the English perspective for the future, what’s importance of England in emerging markets, Especially in Asia?
    England needs more from the world than the world from England!
    And by the way, will be not any war here… At the moment it will be convenient for England at the very first time but terrible for Islanders, it will accelerate the isolation only! And the support of LATAm to Argentina will keep increasing.
    The argentine president already said this at the decolonization committee last annual meeting. “ Well finally… Maybe what politics can not resolve maybe the economy will do it”. Amazing speech!!!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sammy

    Just wonder when china will put in a claim?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Isolation, what isolation? you mean from Argentina? that's not a hardship. It's a blessing. The less the Islands have to do with you in your current form the better, you have nothing to offer them and certainly have nothing they want from you. Certainly not your economic model or your comic opera system of so called democracy. Infact as the rest of the real world knows, the Islands have everything you want but can not and will not ever have. So grow up, live with it, move on.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    WTF......why do they not give it up???!?!?!?.....We will give Alaska to Canada a hundred years before the sovereign state of the Falkland Islands EVER become a colony of argentina.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Gaston - I can answer your question. The world needs England, specifically our universities which are the most attractive in the world for the members of the emerging economies. Why is Brazil funding it's students to enrol on their PhDs in the UK. With HE capacity issues in Columbia then the UK is seeing more and more Columbian students in our dark satanic mills. You cannot move in any UK university (minus London Met) for the number of Indian and Chinese students desperate to secure a place?

    The youth of the world love the UK and sees it as the light to a better more prosperous personal future?

    Please tell me what support Argentina actually has, because besides words, there have been no actions. So what support does Argentina actually have?????? A = Nothing of any value.

    The only thing the economy will affect is the number of Argentines who find themselves unable to eat and an increasing number who are unable to walk the streets at night out of fear for their personal safety.

    Which economy would you rather operate in?

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GastonBaires

    Do not be childish, Argentina is not going to stop claiming, is enshrined in our constitution! I'm not going to discuss abut what is the Argie claim’s right because we wont get anywhere.
    Furthermore,
    “The Islands have everything you want but can not and will not ever have”
    A bit arrogant and very unrealistic. Argentina mainland is one of the parts with more and better prospects for the future and that it is asserting and has large countries need foulbrood. That will more importantly to Argentina.
    There is no reason for latam countries to support the English posture.
    Besides, everyone knows that the real oil potential is not in the islands.

    Ok I’m off to light the fire for the asado tonight. Some friends are coming over!
    You are all invited.
    Cheers!

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Searinox

    it is too much simple to know that the UK do not care about the islanders at all, the UK doesnt even care too much about hte Oil...it is all about the islands position...respect of the pass between the atlantic and the pacific, and to have a position to go to antartica...
    Just take a look to the South Georgias or South Sandwich natural reserve...do you think they do it to protect the animals in there?
    haha no...they do it because they have a military fortress in there...and as those islands are in the “antartic category” they would be violating the antartic treaty...so they say...its not a military base for antartica, is for the natural reserve...the same thing they did in the Chagos Archipielago...i suggest you to read and watch about the Chagos Islands and you'll see what im talking about...

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @48 Congratulations - you win a major prize!

    You've just played the “Chagos card” (see my post @25)

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • v for victory

    Timerman obtains zip, nadam, nothing. No country is going to help Argentina with any serious action and the truth is, you all know it. The world is bored of Argentina, constantly with their begging bowl out and giving nothing back to the world community.

    Sep 22nd, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trerence Hill

    Then there won't be any support from Columbia as Argentina has no legitimate rights to the Falklands.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mclayoscar

    Argentina last card is being played again.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ljordao

    @47:

    You are the child here. The demand is in your national constitution. So what? Its moral status is negligible. You'd better start working towards replacing it with a freedom-friendly document, or else your country will start and lose another unjust war. Don't expect your neighbours to risk their necks for your pathetic dreams of empire.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Argentina is not going to stop claiming, is enshrined in our constitution!

    Why do the Argies want talks then?

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    54
    Not sure but I think its because they want to offer Patagonia in exchange for West Falkland.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Gaston - we will be as arrogant as we wish. At least we have the ability to back up such arrogance. It is called confidence.

    What does Argentina have???? Errm, the answer is shag all and that shag all is becoming worth even less with inflation at 30%.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @52
    Oh, I wouldn't bet on that, they are bound to have a couple more cards up their sleeve. Both aces and both of the same suit!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @56 ' shag all is becoming worth even less with inflation at 30%.'

    Four fifths of fuck all in fact........

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    I was waiting for soem light relief and here it is!! Laughing boy Timerman gathering the support of drug dealers and nobodies to support the illegal Argentine claim on islands that are not even theirs!!!!

    Oh how we all laughed!!! the amateur-ness ( is that even a word? ) of their political manouvering had me laughing so hard that a little bit of wee came out.

    The man is a joke, his president is a clown, and the government is a bunch of child molesters and wife swappers.......

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monty69

    48 Searinox

    'A military fortress' on South Georgia???? Are you sure? I just looked on Google Earth and I can't find one. Perhaps it's all hidden underground. I can't see anything on the South Sandwich Islands either. That's because there isn't, you crazy conspiracy theorist.
    I suppose that's where the British hid their replacement aircraft carrier in 1982, you know, the one they had to bring out after you sunk the Invincible.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Yawn, more nonsense that as ever will go nowhere.

    I'd imagine other countries keep this facade going just so as good old crazy Cristina doesn't throw her toys out of the pram.

    I don't think anyone outside of Argentina believes in this at all.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Britain to be defeated by Argentina in a new war, would be very humiliating and UK will become the Laughing stock in the world.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @62 Argentina is the current laughing stock in the world and I can't see that changing outside of an Argentine dream. Do you feel humiliated?

    Try posting something remotely believable.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Elaine what military would argentina use reading dumburgers rant? The one that cfk decimated and humiliated? The only action that the argentine military can handle is, I am afraid to say, against their own people. I certainly fear that is on her agenda.
    UN activity never makes news on TV here but I wish it did. We have a channel on cable called CSPAN....all politics. I really would love to see her speak and the crowd yawning and sleeping, lip reading.....wtf.....again! Still in black no less!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @64 You can watch the UN online.

    DanyBerger makes the most ridiculous statements with no foundation in reality; kinda like CFKC.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @65

    It would be so much more fun if the Harvard debate was online.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @66 Do they ever do that?

    I am pretty sure they will make a full transcript available but it will not be as entertaining.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    62 DB

    You are absolutely correct of course. The UK would be the laughing stock of the whole world it it were defeated by Argentina but that is a little like saying:

    Skoda is the pride and joy of the Czech Republic and the rest of the world after it announced that it's 2013 Octavia Elegance will be capable of flying to the Moon. Octavia Elegance Luna Plus, available March 2013, from £24,450 plus on road costs and delivery charges. Skoda. Simply clever.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @60 Monty
    I heard the british are fitting nuclear war heads to the penguins!

    Who gives a fetted dingos kidney what the colombians think about the falklands. Britain is confident and committed to the falklands. Timerman knows its case for the falklands is a korma compared to britain's vindaloo.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Cristina speaks at one of the world's most prestigious universities.
    David speaks at Raisa's stable.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @70 Good to see you acknowledging the prestige and excellence of a US university.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @67

    We can watch online

    Watch Online!

    “If you are unable to attend in person, you can watch this event online - just revisit this page at the scheduled date and time.”

    http://forum.iop.harvard.edu/content/public-address-her-excellency-cristina-fern%C3%A1ndez-de-kirchner-president-argentina

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    72 agent999

    oh dear god!!!

    Her excellency???? Her excellency???

    Now if they'd have said “Queen turd of sh*t mountain” I think that would have been hitting the nail on the head.

    Or are they just being polite?

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @62 Dunny - Burger

    Yes, any army would be a laughing-stock if it were defeated by Argentina's armed farces!

    Didn't you say the Argentine army was composed of “inexperts civilians without traning”??

    You might as well shoot them first, and save the cost of sending them over to the Islands.

    :-D

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @72 Thanks. : )

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tonto

    @62 Danny Berger

    You seem to know what you are talking about with regards to military experience. I take it you have signed up and ready to get yourself on the frontline to kill the rubbish English Army yes?

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    yep
    he is ready and waiting,

    as soon as the bus arrives from Argentina to fort knox to pick him up...lol.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tonto

    @77
    It's nice to know there is always somebody out there ready to do justice in the world and kill all those nasty colonialist English pig dogs.
    There they are, all those nasty evil English soldiers raping, and plundering the FI's, and depriving the islanders their true destiny..... peace and tranquillity under Argentinian administration.
    I will immediately flog myself for my penance as I am the legacy of an English plunderer who did nothing but do wrong in the world.
    Gosh I wish I was Argentinian, who is pure and devoid of any corruption and evil.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    yep we agrre,

    they parade as nuns,
    then throw em out when finnished ..lol.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @78 tonto
    Being British I think I'll have to borrow the whip after you...

    Argentina can stand with its head held high safe in the knowledge that it is whiter than pure driven snow unlike those awful british. Its head held high that in this day and age, it evicts stone age tribes, its head held high that it seeks to blockade a tiny island, its head held high as its government gives its backing and its money to disgraceful olympic propaganda. It holds its head high as it injects falsehoods into the minds of its children so they cherish the dream of the falklands so they can simply use the falklands as a whipping boy. It denegrates the british like the Nazis insulted the Jews.
    Argentina calling on its neighbours makes no difference to truth and I thank good I'm british as the truth is on our side. Enough said.

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  • gustbury

    5 Frank#. Argentina is the country that fed him to Britain during and after the second War world.Stupid !!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Clyde15

    #62
    A distinct possibility with your fleet of stealth atomic powered submarines, nuclear ICBM's, your mighty Pampas attack aircraft and battalions of troops trained to the high standards of their last war in the Falklands . All this commanded by the mighty Pirat Hunter. We may as well surrender now before we are annihilated !

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  • Pete Bog

    @62
    “Britain to be defeated by Argentina in a new war,”
    No doubt your jet trainer named after a babies diapers will be leading the assault, with your rusty submarines and museum piece ships.
    If CFK is leading the charge,she has the advantage that if she falls into the sea her lips will auto-inflate and keep her afloat with the rest of the botox.

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  • lsolde

    @83 Pete Bog,
    She has lips like a tractor tube, folded in half.
    @81 gustbury,
    lt wasn't given to us amigo. lt was paid for.
    You are the stupid one.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @84
    Lol, I will never look at at tractor the same way again!

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    80 Musky
    Argentina is as white as coal is black.

    Sep 23rd, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Negotiation with the UK to find a peaceful solution to the South Atlantic islands dispute?

    Why? there already is a peaceful solution.

    The Falkland islanders are not waging war against anyone, on the contrary = peaceful.

    The Falkland islanders see themselves as British and want things to stay that way = solution.

    Peaceful solution. Over and out.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    62 Danny B
    That's some great “germanic” military planning!

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @87 St.John
    Agreed.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @81
    Argentina SOLD, SOLD, SOLD, the food to the British during and after the war asshole! Got paid good money for it too, typical SA crap, do not go making them out to be something they were not, you can bet your boots had there been no money there would have been no food.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Oh! poor unlucky Britons getting poor and poor, no jobs, no hope, no army, no carrier, etc, etc.

    And even that it is not enough they will have to die for a rock with some sheep, penguins and some houses shantytown style on it.

    Can be any worse?

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    oh Duny you and your lies
    UK has two carriers last itme i looked HMS Ocean & Hms Illustrious, plus two more supercarriers 65k tons building.

    Army - Yep we still have an Army last time I looked.

    I think a few more argies died / will die over a rock with some sheep jajajajajajajajaja

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Argentina neither has the military might nor the will, or money for that matter to even contemplate another war over the Islands. They know that they blew their chance before 1982 when they tried to suck up to us with false promises and we Islanders saw them then for what they were for and rejected them.
    CFK does not have the support any longer in Argentina and it is only a matter of time before she is just another piece of History. Argentina will then elect a new presidant who I feel will be more democratic this time round. The Argentine people have had enough of isolation and will soon stand up again. One day Argentina will be a respected nation but untill they remove all the dictators it is not going to happen for a long time. Now is the time for the real people of Argentina to start telling their next generations the truth. Stop the propoganda they enforce on their people and start acting like they are a people that the world can once again live alongside. If they don't they will sink deeper into isolation. I am sure that is not the desire of the vast majority of decent Argentines.

    The Falklands Issue is only causing more grief for themselves and at the end of the day is such a small group of islands worth destroying what they have. We Islanders will still be progressing through time with or without the unfriendly attitude of the Argentine government.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Is such a small group of islands worth destroying
    [Yes]
    If you look at it from argentines point of view,
    ,,,,,,,
    But the point may well be,
    Not so much the destruction of the Falklands islands,
    [To whom we can re-build]

    But the utter destruction of Argentina,
    For what revenge would almost certainly take,
    This may well be what the Argies should be thinking.
    .

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #59 “the government is a bunch of child molesters and wife swappers”

    Got any links for that?! Seriously shouldn;t this be taken down as libel???

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #95
    No

    #91
    You told me in an older post that you did not use mind altering substances.
    Your comments above would indicate otherwise.

    Things could be a lot worse - we could be Argentinians. Thank God we are not. That is one thing for which we can be thankful .

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #95 it's freedom of speech...they are public figures and are subject to public ridicule.......accept it.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @91 Dungy

    “ some houses shantytown style on it.”

    No unemployment, no poverty, no shanty towns in Falklands.

    Argentina cannot say the same. LOL

    Any more childish, vacuous, insults to change the topic?

    *rolls eyes*

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @30 Try this one! http://ambuscade.org.uk/Images/Slideshows/Alfsym_dest/images/Argentinian%20Submarine%20Santa%20Fe%20(with%20holes%20in%20conning%20tower)%201982_jpg.jpg
    @42 Are you hoping for an “economic” miracle? So you can have real money, food, power?
    @47 Keep pushing, child. You will be a nuclear wasteland. The American did it in 1945. What year would you like us to do it? I don't have a problem. Neither will you. You won't be around. Except as atoms. Remember that our Prime Minister was prepared to wipe you off the face of the planet in '82. I still am!
    @48 You are, without doubt, a total brain-dead asshole!
    By the way, WE took it out and sank it. No reason to keep crap. By the way, did you know that the argie “crew” ran away?
    @62 The cesspit of argieland wouldn't know how. Make one wrong move. Just one. Please!
    @70 CFK is ridiculed at a major US university!
    @91 We have plenty, thank you. Two carriers. Plus the larger ones being built. WE won't be dying. But YOU will. I was going to say “If you have the balls to get off your chair.” but you don't have any balls. Just as a matter of interest, do you have a cave picked out? Nothing else will survive. I want everything in argieland incinerated. Plants, buildings, bacteria, animals, fungus. There are no humans!
    @95 Why? Based on your comments, you are clearly a paedophile and an amoral sub-animal. Did I note that someone suggested you were Scottish? Paedophile sub-human sounds about right. But retarded! As are most Scots.

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  • briton

    Your CommentIs there any country in South America who CFK and CO,
    hasn’t not thanked for their support over the Falklands .

    ..

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @99
    Mr Conqueror I do take offence at what you just said about my fellow Scots. BK clearly isn't a Scot and if by some miracle he is he is one of a kind. Now we are all united in the UK together so please don't insult your fellow countrymen.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #99
    The Scots have had to run your beloved empire for a couple of centuries and now we have more sense.
    You remind me of an English National Front member.
    Shaven skull, St. George T-shirt, with as many brain cells as a moribund amoeba, shouting E -N-G- A-L-A-N-D,. You must be a total embarrassment to your fellow countrymen
    Thank God you are not a typical Englishman or Britain certainly would be down the tubes.
    I saw one of your beloved Vanguard class subs. leaving Faslane to go on patrol today.
    If you and some of your countrymen hate we Scots so much, you can take your subs. and park them in the port of London with our blessing AND remove the nuclear missile bunkers and bury them some where on the channel coast.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we may yet do that,

    come come,
    that makes you as bad as him,

    rember what custer said,

    united we stand,
    divided we fall,

    and promtly devided his command into 3....
    enough said,

    keep i simple, the argies like think are laughing ?>?

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #103
    “We may yet do that”.
    For Briton -read English.

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    meaning what

    Sep 24th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #97 I'm all for ridicule of politicians, and can even laugh along with ridicule of politicians I support, but wheres the humour in randomly and falsely calling people child molesters and wife swappers?!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    It's called anger toward the politicians and the free world accepts it. Lashing out from electorate. Comes with the territory of elected public officials. Now don't think ass lips kirchner is a wife swapper or a child molester, just a whore and whore master who gets on all fours when she begs for money from American businessmen.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    I'm really angry at Cameron and co for destroying the social fabric of my country with pointless austerity and subservience to the banks, but I wouldn't call him a child molester...

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment166310: There is no country called the “Falkland Islands” There is a country called the UK which claims sovereignty over Las Malvinas which it calls a “British Overseas Territory” (i.e. colony). It is for that reason that the government of Argentina wants to talk to government of the UK about Las Malvinas.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Oh and that was all Camerons fault was it? and just how long did that great Scottish Economist BROWN have his grubby little fingers on the purse strings???

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @99 Conqueror,
    Please try to stay focused, old chap.
    The enemy is Argentine malvinistas(& fellow travellers!)NOT Scotland or the Scots.
    The Scots & us have been through so much together, we certainly don't need to piss them off.
    As Clyde15 said, Scotland made great contributions to our empire & paid the price for it too.
    l have great admiration for Scottish acheivements in the world.
    You cannot accuse an entire nation of paedophilia, whatever are you thinking?
    So, Conqueror, although l agree with a lot(not all, but a lot)of your posts, in this instance, l think that you should pull your head in & apologize to Clyde15.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    108 British_Kirchnerist
    At least you have to power to vote him out,

    Unlike some…
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    109 Hepatia
    Rubbish as usual ,
    Envy really gets you..
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    110 reality check
    Sadly we brits have had a bad run of prime ministers and governments,
    Who start of with good intentions,
    Get elected,
    All enter room 25,
    And come out anti British and brain dead,
    Then spend the rest of their govermentship, doing everything they can to go against the people, just to satisfy there own greed corruption and vanity,
    Is this not true.
    ...

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    That's your choice bk and as someone else stated, you also have to choice to vote him out and knowing no one can sell their votes to him.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #105
    At the risk of flogging a dead horse. Read the first line of your post at #103.
    In reply to conq. I said “you and some of your countrymen” meaning English as he patently does not rate a Scot as British.
    The inference you implied by “we may yet do that” must refer to England.
    In no way am I anti English, as that would be to disown part of my family BUT an anti Scottish bias seems to creep into this forum from time to time from certain posters.
    e.g #110
    BK said Cameron with no reference to nationality - although you cannot get much more Scottish than this surname which is also mine. He is one step removed from being a Scot as his father was Scottish.
    You refer to “Scottish economist Brown”.
    What relevance does Scottish have in this context but a thinly disguised bias against Scots ?

    As I have said before, if you wish to discuss Scotland's place in the Union then get MercoPress to arrange it and then we can have a fangs out rant and rave, revealing unfounded prejudices from both sides. I will be happy to sit that one out !

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    114 Clyde15
    Great
    So lets nip this in the bud,
    For all on these bloggs to understand,

    We are until others decided british,
    Full stop,
    Any other interest will come in 2014,
    Full stop.
    That was easy.
    Briton.
    .

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @114
    No far from it, my bias is towards BK, who if I recall correctly is proud pointing out his Scots heritage on here. No bias against Scots, no opinion on Scotish Independence, thats a matter for the Scots, no one else. Plenty of bias against BK though, because he is a fantastic wind up merchant!!!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    but he does looooove CFK,
    or he is fooling all of us,

    still,
    never abusive, unlike some argies we can name.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    isolde quote:As Clyde15 said, Scotland made great contributions to our empire & paid the price for it too.
    Empire??So why you complain isolde.....When building an empire you have to piss off many people.....SO do not complain about Argentina,is part of the game....

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @109
    “There is no country called the “Falkland Islands””

    Wrong. There is. And it is not called the Malvinas.

    If it was called Malvinas, its governemnt would be called the Malvinas Island Government.

    All documentation on the Falkland Islands is marked with the words 'Falkland Islands.'

    The clue is in the name.

    As Argentina want to subdue a democratically elected government made up of people that have lived and bred on the Islands since BEFORE 1833 (some of their forebears were the civilian population that chose to stay including the black slaves that were freed under Britains re-establishment of their claim -since 1690), that makes the Argentines the would be colonial power. The UK protect the Falkland Islanders at THEIR request, not the other way round.
    Therefore the Falklands Islands cannot be a colony. This could only be possible if the islanders did not request the British defence presence.

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  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment167323: I think that you will find that documents issued by London City are marked with the words “London City”. However, that does not mean that London City is a country, or even that it is independent from the UK.

    In any case the government of the UK may be surprised and, possibly, alarmed by your assertion of that there is a country called the Falkland Islands. They are under the impression that what they call the Falkland Islands are a “British Overseas Territory” (i.e. a “crown colony”) - a status legislated in UK law.

    Hence, there being no country called the Falkand Islands under either UK or International Law, it is necessary for the Republic of Argentina to negotiate with the British Kingdom, which is the sovereign power that is occupying Las Malvinas.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @120 Hepatitus

    There is no Las Malvinas, therefore there is no sovereign power over the Malvinas'.

    On the other hand, the Falkland Islanders live in the Falkland Islands and have their own elected government.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #120
    Regardless of what you say, what is there to negotiate about ?
    Your constitution says that the Falklands belong to Argentina.
    You declare that they are part of Patagonia.
    You say that you will never give up your claim to sovereignty and all the time make veiled threats. The UK does not respond well to threats either direct or indirect.
    There is nothing about which to negotiate.
    We are no longer a world power but we still have a powerful bite , don't provoke us into using it !
    The UK government says, talk to the Falkland Islanders.
    Whatever they decide we will back them.

    So, what do you have to offer them that would make them hand over their land to the Argentine government?

    Every time your government bleats on about the subject, the solution, for you, gets further away.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    120 Heptia
    The Falklands have a democratically elected Government which decides their affairs and represents them internationally including in the UN, trying to call them a “colony”, is simply not believable given the facts on the ground.

    FIG is the only body that can negotiate about the Islands, and they won’t talk to you (can’t blame them for that).

    Then the first rule of negotiation is “you have to have something to negotiate with”

    Argentina has neither someone nor something to negotiate with.

    No looking very promising for negotiating any time soon, with anyone, is it!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    120 Heptia

    you know not
    sssshhhhh

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment167386: The UK, as the occupying power, cannot avoid its responsibility in the manner you suggest.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ya just cant reason with a dalek,

    and we wont again bother.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    125
    I think you got your occupiers and liberators mixed up. Let me enlighten you.
    Occupiers are brutal, criminal invaders.
    Liberators, are those who send their greasy arses back to where they came from with a flea in their ear and their tail between their legs, where it is still wagging 30 years later.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    *99 NO WONDER tHE SCOTS WANT TO PART FROM tHE UK FROM THE LIKES LIKE YOU....

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @128 A S S

    “*99 NO WONDER tHE SCOTS WANT TO PART FROM tHE UK FROM THE LIKES LIKE YOU....”

    We're all done with that now, OzPhake.

    Feeble, second-rate- Troll attempt. That was 30 posts ago. I think we are all still united against La Campora, thanks.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Conqueror,

    Yeah Conque apologies to Clyde15 please, before the Scottish get mad and kick your @ss until he drew your English flag on it.
    Ha ha

    @Clyde15

    “We are no longer a world power but we still have a powerful bite , don't provoke us into using it !”

    Now you Idiot are you talking for Scotland or England?

    I’m confused a bit...

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment167438: Surely you do not associate any thing you have posted with reason. Have you no shame!

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @131
    Ok, you keep quoting the masthead so analyse it rather than repeating it like a Dalek
    '“the ' need' for Argentina and the UK to resume ' negotiations' so as to find as soon as possible a peaceful and lasting solution to the Malvinas Islands 'question”.

    What need? The Falkland Islanders don't want 'negotiations' over their land.

    If you want negotiations, they involve concessions and offers from both sides so what has Argentina got to offer the Falkland Islanders that they haven't already got?

    Nothing any of you paid campora trolls have ever been able to answer because you can't.
    Agree with @126.
    You are Daleks and all you want to do is 'exterminate' as per 1982.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment167643: The UK should commence negotiations soon because now is the time that it will get the best deal. The results of negotiations in 15 or 20 years will not be so favorable for the UK.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @133 Hepatia,
    ls that another threat, Hepatia?
    As Pete Bog & Pugol-H have said, “to negotiate, you have to have something to negotiate with”
    What have you got?
    What will you give us in exchange for us surrendering our Sovereignty?
    A couple of suitcases full of 2 peso coins is NOT enough.
    How about we give you some rocky offshore islands & you give us Santa Cruz & Chubut provinces?
    Then since TDF is isolated, you could give that to Chile.
    Sounds fair?
    We have no intention of “negotiating” with you now, or 15 or 20 years in the future.
    lndeed not even 100 years in the future.
    Hope this helps

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @133
    “The results of negotiations in 15 or 20 years will not be so favorable for the UK.”
    Care to explain that? Because I say that you are incapable of explaining that, though you might at least make an effort to prove me wrong.

    The results of any negotiations with the Argentine will not be favourable at any time for the Falkland Islanders, as the Argentines have NOTHING to offer.

    Ie Airlinks?=FI already has them.
    International Airport?=FI already has one.
    Thriving economy and relatively high financial income?=FI already has this.
    A credible defence against aggression?=thanks to UK FI already has it.
    Good education system allowing access to UK universities?=FI already has this with 25% of GDP spent on education.
    Good healthcare?=FI already has this.
    Good Financial services?=No Argentina has debts, the FI don't as they know how to run their finances properly, so they do not need |Argentina's advice on this.
    Low rates of crime?=FI already have these.
    Better industries?=FI have already developed their economy without Argentina's help and will upgrade their shipping industries.
    Help with oil exploration?=No, Argentina can't even get investment for its own resources as no one trusts them after Repsol, and FI have investment from UK, France, Italy and USA (and Iwould not bet against Repsol turning up to the gig).

    So, there's lots of examples that Argentina has NOTHING to offer.
    If negotiations were to take place you can't even state ANYTHING that Argentina could offer the Falkland Islands or the UK, so if Argentina has less than' nothing' to offer in 15-20 years there's no reason for the Falkland Islands to discuss anything now is there?

    And in your dubious prediction,how do you know that in 15-20 years the Islands will not be an Independent country?

    If that's the case there will be NO UN call for negotiations because the UN actively encourages independence not the maintenance of Imperialist ambitions (as Argentina wants).

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  • British_Kirchnerist

    #111 ”So, Conqueror, although l agree with a lot(not all, but a lot)of your posts, in this instance, l think that you should pull your head in & apologize to Clyde15”

    And to BK =)

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #136
    I am sorry but I can not explain it in words of one syllable which seems to be the limit of your comprehension..
    #122
    Lines 5 and 10----UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    What needs explaining ? I am not surprised that you are confused as all of your postings indicate this trait in greater or lesser degrees.

    As to me being an idiot, that is technically incorrect. A definition of an idiot is a person with an IQ of 30 or lower. If I fitted this description I would not be able to write or use a computer. When I entered the UK Civil Service in 1961, I had to sit an IQ test. My score came out at 142.
    Not a genius, but above average, although an IQ score is only one facet of a person's ability. I no doubt have deficiencies in other aspects.

    As to you, I would not call you an idiot or moron as you could not be either to post in these forums.
    I just wish you would act like an adult - if you are one - and stop using banal comments because you cannot think of anything rational to say.

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  • kelperabout

    To all Decent genuine oppressed Argentines .
    One day I predict that what you desire for your Country will come true. Dictators always end up loosing. True they do use force to control a people. But I do respect your bravery to speak out. To many Argentine families have suffered at the hands of fanatical governments who stop at nothoing to feed their greed. We Falkland islanders have been treated in the same way as the innocent of Argentina.
    Keep up the mission because we have seen around the world that it is possible to rid one's self of dictators.
    Start showing the world that Real Argentines are indeed bieng supressed and the rest of the world will come to help you.
    We Islanders showed to the world an aggressor and not only did Britain come to our aid but behind the political scenes many other Countries supported their effort including some in South America.
    For those that have, you have probably started something by bieng brave enough to speak out. Keep it up and more will join you.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment167717: The UK may not view the outcome of negotiations at any time with favor. However, I repeat, the UK should negotiate now because now is the time when it will get the most favorable outcome from its point of view. Any negotiations on the status of Las Malvinas held in 15 or 20 years time will be pro forma in nature and insignificant in import, after which the territory will revert back to Argentinian de jure administration.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    My post at #137 should refer to #130

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Argentine bloggers,
    Usurpers , liars , 5th columnist,
    Communist traitors , paid aggetist
    Russian tulips, snakes , brown nosers,
    Baby rattlers ,losers, envious jealousy.
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Ya failed to split the brits,
    ,,,,,,,,
    Still,
    Ya talk a lot..lolol
    .

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #139
    I think you have just repeated your post at #133 and it makes as much sense as this one at 139.
    Could you explain t0 the uninitiated what is going to happen in 15/20 years time. Is Argentine going to invade again ?
    Who is going to give you sovereignty ?
    Can we borrow your crystal ball and have a look for ourselves .

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    UK should negotiate now because now is the time when it will get the most favorable outcome from its point of view
    [stupid silly fool]
    we got the best outcome in 1982,

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Hepatia is pyscho sussie, 2012 susan brown, ProArg-American, and, and, and
    it never makes sense

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @144 POPPY

    actually, I don't think “Hepatitus” is Sussie.

    “Hep - T” (Hep-Troll) is far too eloquent -no drug induced raving.

    Though, I have to admit, the Sussie Personities must make up 1/2 the Troll population.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment168058: The question was what was the need for negotiations which has been answered by these posts.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    No no no no no no no no no no no no
    At United Nations: Britain responds firmly to
    Spain , Argentina , no no no no no no no
    Do you understand,
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    British Military,,,
    More than 3,000 sailors and marines are gearing up for a three-month training deployment
    of the UK's high-readiness task force
    Royal Navy warships, Royal Marines commandos and naval airpower, which make up the Response Force Task Group
    HMS Ocean launched repeated Apache gunship strikes from her flight deck while
    HMS Liverpool , HMS Illustrious , joined by the nation's flagship, HMS Bulwark,
    Participants in Cougar 12 are:

    HMS Bulwark
    HMS Illustrious
    HMS Northumberland
    HMS Montrose
    RFA Mounts Bay
    MV Hartland Point
    Headquarters of 3 Commando Brigade
    45 Commando (currently the UK's on-call Royal Marines unit ready to respond to world events)
    30 Commando IX Group
    539 Assault Squadron Royal Marines
    814 Naval Air Squadron (Merlins)
    NO NO NO NO NO , LEARN IT,
    Great Britain Says NO NO NO …

    The falklands are free people,
    CFK
    is all mouth and no trousers .

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a trampoline?
    A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a prostitute?
    A: The prostitute gives value for the money she takes.

    Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead Kirchner in the road?
    A: Vultures will eat the skunk.

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a catfish?
    A: One is an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.

    Q: Why should the Kirchners be buried 100 feet deep?
    A: Because deep down, they're really good people.

    Q: What happens when you cross a pig with a Peronist?
    A: Nothing. There are some things a pig won't do.

    Q. How many Kirchners does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A. Just one, but it really gets screwed.

    Q: How many Peronists does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: It's irrelevant; they still don't know they're in the dark!

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    148
    when the brits fight back,
    the argies disapeare ..

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @149

    I'm imagining the cluster of trolls at Casa Rotunda leafing furiously through the “Trolling for Boludos” guidebook and frantically trying to come up with a new script.

    LOL LOL

    GOOD WORK, BRITS ( and Poppy, shhhh) !!

    Brits WIN AGAIN!!!!

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @139
    “Any negotiations on the status of Las Malvinas held in 15 or 20 years time will be pro forma in nature and insignificant in import, after which the territory will revert back to Argentinian de jure administration.”

    Can you explain what this means or does your brain only contain one cell?

    How are the Falklands going to revert to Argentina, when they were never Argentinian in the first place?
    They were joint Spanish for a while, but a claim by Vernet in 1929 that lasted till 1833 (he got kicked out in 1831 by the way), is not very convincing is it, compared with the British claim (never dropped by the way) if not from 1690, then definately from 1765 to 2012 (currently).
    That's 247 years versus 4 at the most. Tell that to Timmerman, who is just like you, a programmed e-bot or Dalek that can repeat, but has no arguments.

    And are you/Timmerman implying an invasion in 15/20 years?
    When we have V/TOL aircraft again which means we won't need runways?
    When we will have two supercarriers?
    Whenwe will have more T-45s?
    When we will have even more advanced submarines and ships?
    Whenwe will have the meteor air to air missile in service?

    And precisely Hepatitus, what will Argentina have to counter this?

    And what if the Falkland Islands have declared Independence by then/

    The Falkland Islanders have already got a favourable outcome, and as argentina has difficulty in running itself, it won't be able to handle the falklnds then will it.
    Suggest you go to a few more Daleks and borrow their braincell suntil you have 5-10 and can actually argue instead of repeat.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/22/timerman-obtains-colombian-support-for-malvinas-claim-and-uk-argentina-talks#comment168477: You post does serve to highlight the strategic weakness of the UK's position. In response the Argentina's diplomatic initiatives the UK's only effective response is a military one. It is this asymmetry that will ensure that Las Malvinas will revert back to Argentina.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    152 Hepaitis A
    “strategic weakness” is Argentina's undermining factor. Your inability to sat up any kind of lifeline between you and the Islands is what lost you the war in '82.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    152 Hepatia

    Those who defend their lands against invaders,
    Are called HEROS
    ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
    Those who steal lands from others are called THIEVES.
    And which one are you then.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    To think that CFK and her bandits keep telling us we could live on our islands and continue to do what we do so longs as we give up our rights of ownership. Well from the devious foiled plans in Sao Paulo against the Falkland badminton team clearly shows how loyal they would turn out to be. Marlene Short wrote
    “Kinda think our presence at the badminton tournament in Sao Paulo is upsetting little old argentina, they only sent 2 officials to the venue to check out the legitimacy of our participation, and tried to get the falklands flag changed on the scoreboard! They no likey!!! Anyway they were read the rule book and left - in a hurry!!!”

    Thats not what I call a good reason to trust them. They can't even acept that sports men and women be allowed to enjoy peace and fun.
    Still nothing changed there then.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Thats right Rgentina.....talk to everyone but the Islanders, they offered, you irnored the request. So whatever the ulterior motive is, it's not negotiations.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    152 Hepatia
    Argentina’s diplomacy has achieved exactly nothing (real world) for Argentina with respect to the Falklands issue.

    It has however highlighted to the world the Islanders case, and version of history.

    You will notice Cameron made no reference to the issue, or CFK’s comments, in his speech to the UN.

    Why, because it was un-necessary for him to do so.

    Please don’t fool yourself that you are getting anywhere with this.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    152 Hepatia

    One quarter of water,
    Two aspirin,
    One spoon,
    Put water in glass, followed by aspirin,
    Stir with spoon,

    Relax....lol

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    158 briton (#)
    When replying to 152 Hepatia
    you missed a vital ingredient
    “A dash of Common sense.”

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ha ha great thanks.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @152
    “initiatives the UK's only effective response is a military one.”

    As I have pointed out there has been no military response by the UK to Argentina.

    But if Argentina initiates another conflict (ie launches an attack) I merely pointed out the assets the UK will possess in 15-20 years to retaliate in response to an Argentine attack. It makes your assertion that the Argentines will have the upper hand in 15-20 years, nothing but an impotent joke.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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