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Argentine government discussing military pay and pensions with all forces

Monday, October 8th 2012 - 06:20 UTC
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The Argentine Coast and Border Guards conflict remains unchanged Sunday night with the government advancing with some disciplinary actions while the big event is scheduled for Monday/Tuesday when the Cristina Fernandez administration is supposed to come up with a ‘satisfactory’ reply to the salary and working conditions petitions. Read full article

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  • briton

    Bloody right an all,,
    They deserve all the pesos they can get.

    Still.
    As long as CFK keeps the dollars,
    She all right jack..

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    So the Argie 'government' have been with-holding the pension money fron the pension of the Guards and others, only to be caught out when they retire and their pensions are much lower than forecasted or anticipated.

    Gaining a judgement against the 'government' has resulted in the all too predictable 'get-stuffed' by TMBOA.

    This is something that even the Labour Party in Britain would not have done (other than incompetence in administering the scheme which happened with my wife and I resulting in us threatening legal action).

    These crooks who consider themselves beyond the law need to be put against a wall and shot.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    HAppy to hear they are screwing ALL the military forces. Call me crazy, crazy me a reactionist...BUT!.....if I were a south american dictator, I wouldn't be fucking with the military's pay and pensions.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ok you are crazy....lol.

    but on the bright side,

    as you say,, whithout the military she wont be in power for much longer.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They really have big gonads. If the military had any honor, they would Mussolini her.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Anses is going to be a central issue. U.S. citizens usually have a pension or 401k in addition to Social Security (Anses), as well as savings.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Exactly right Aayay, SSI or Social Security was never designed to be THE retirement platform, but a supplemental to retirement savings. My wife lost all her savings to ANSES and expects nothing back

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • adorable

    @1 & 4
    Oh! come on...stop accusing her of stealing dollars...that is incorrect!...
    So what?....
    ...“ she is not in power for much longer”...
    such comment does not mean that Argentina will change its position regarding the islands claim....
    Argentina will remain anti-british...
    Afuera de mi pais ingleses odiosos!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    8 adorable
    You not very adorable are you,
    Still if you can read, please cut and past where I stated the words STEAL

    Steal is short for stealing,
    And that is what CFK is tring to do to the Falklands,

    But if I mentioned or wrote the words steal in [1] or [4] you can have the Falklands for free,
    And if you cant , then can I have argentina,

    Or will you now change your mind.
    lololol
    .

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • adorable

    @9 briton
    ugh?...
    I'm briton
    the one with a big name
    eh!
    I mean...a big arse
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    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
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    ?
    Just a thought
    lol

    Oct 09th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    enjoy ya sandpaper.

    Oct 09th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    adorable is sussie...prorgAmerican, susan brown.....2012......it's nuts....they all are

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @12

    The thing that has always amused me about whatever sussie is, a man / woman / transvestite / hermaphrodite / homosexual / lesbian / whatever floats its boat they apparently hate the Brits but it has the name Brown?

    Were / are there any argies with the surname Brown in AG who were not descended from the Brits.

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They are all nut jobs. It keeps insisting I am Conqueror, assumingly because they have multiple identities, they think everyone else does. Then she wonders why Conqueror cliams to be a 63 year old Brit and I a 50 year old American......all loonies. lol

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Mercopress should not allow change of name to often.

    These fools think they are masters of disguise,
    But are really ,, lamb dressed as mutton.
    .

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    They probably just creat a new email, easy enough.

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • adorable

    @ 13 ChrisR= Zhivago=Simeon68=chinese residing in Tierra del Fuego

    Legally, I changed my name to my mother's maiden name.
    I repeat. I am planning to reside in Argentina which is anti-british.

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #17....sussie you are so transparent.

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @17

    So, your mother was a Brit, with a name like Brown? Where was your father?

    BTW, because you cannot digest information accurately, I am a Brit, retired to Uruguay for almost 20 months.

    I only post in my own tag: ChrisR

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Good luck Chris.......it think Conqueror and I are the same.....lol

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    17
    mothers full name, D.O.B.,
    and see what the mighty IGI comes up with.

    as chris says its british,

    and why plan to argentina, just go their,

    anti brit,
    na, just a few ,we counted 13 in cluding you and CFK .

    Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “Few want to oppose her on the fear of her reprimands. In July, Fernández admitted on national television that she’d asked the tax agency to investigate a real estate broker, whom she named, after he had said that government policies had slashed home buying. ”

    When will they be required to sig heil?

    www.emergingmarkets.org/Article/3100171/Economics-and-Policy/ARGENTINA-Sleight-of-hand.html

    “It would be helpful to make changes now rather than to straightjacket the economy and wait for an explosion,”

    Oct 11th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #2 “This is something that even the Labour Party in Britain would not have done”

    Well filching on ordinary people's pensions is more a right wing idea, pursued by Tories and New Labour Blairites than real Labour. But then there's never been a coup and dictatorship in Britain to punish domestic war criminals for (though there were plots against Wilson weren't there!)

    Nilda's looking good for, I think, 67, isn't she? She was a left Peronist congresswoman in 1973-76, so I imagine punishing golpistas is close to he heart - even if they now refer to each other as comrades!

    Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “Well filching on ordinary people's pensions is more a right wing idea, pursued by Tories and New Labour Blairites than real Labour.”

    While I am not British, has the British government of either party ever do that bk?

    Shows you what your beloved anus lips will do. Expect it to get worse.

    Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #24 Its been a big issue in British industrial relations for years

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Has it been done?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    26 Captain Poppy

    What has been done to our pensions by the Labour party was that the cnut Brown, when he was first appointed Chancellor of the Exchequer removed ALL tax relief on every pension scheme that had been agreed with the tax authorities.

    Tax relief meant that your earnings that you paid into your pension scheme were not taxed, but when you drew your pension the payments were aggregated with your other income and tax was paid then.

    Private pensions were immediately put under severe stress due to the loss in revenue and many thousands lost out and are still losing out, me included.

    This is changing the rules as you go along, something TMBOA does all the time.

    The effect was devastating to most private pensions and company schemes such as the one I was in. I did not trust the governments not to raid my pension but never thought they would do what they did. Most pensions suffered a shortfall of 20% on anticipated payouts. AND WE STILL HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAX ON OUR PENSION PAYOUTS. Having your cake and eating it comes to mind.

    The cnut Brown of course has an inflation proof government pension, so he’s all right Jack!”

    But the Scottish Prat B_S_K won't admit to it.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    That's like our pensions here, called IRA's(individual retirement accounts). You can deduct from you income what you point into them as you are working(up to a certain amount) and the earnings are exempt from taxes until you draw on them.
    In ARgentina, kirchner literally took everyone's (my wife's including) pension and placed them in a public pool. The public pool Anses is distributed to everyone. She lost probably the equivelent of 80,000 U$ dollars. Now she has nothing to show for it.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #26 Another point of contention in Britain, that I was referring to, has been the downsizing of final pensions including of those of workers who have been paying into the scheme for years with wage deductions, there were several strikes over this

    #27 I'm no fan of Brown, he should have stood up to Blair and driven him out well before he finally did, and on principle should have opposed him on Iraq and accepted his wilderness years if necessary - though if he had opposed the war Britain would probably have been kept out of it, which in turn would have also been better for the world as Bush's extreme policies would not have been normalised. So no I'm not a Brown fan, as I said to Clyde when questioned on another thread my ideal UK PM would be George Galloway, followed by Tommy Sheridan =)

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You refer to Bushes policies as extreme. What do you propose that the UK would have done if Buckingham Palace and maybe the Tower of London was attacked and 3,000 citizens were killed......you apparently sympathize with Al Qaeda......that's your right

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @29 B_S_K

    You make it sound as if closing the final pension schemes somehow robbed the contributors of their money.

    You KNOW this is not the case, their money and the contributions by the company were paid into a scheme which, if they continue to pay will give a better result than a private scheme since your Scottish cnut decimated them.

    But hey, why let facts get in the way as usual.

    George Galloway and the convict Sheridan: ha, ha, ha.

    Now I have the evidence of your lunacy in front of me. I did notice what passes for you as a smiley face and you have fooled some people, but I think I have the measure of you.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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