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Chilean lawmaker wants Chiloé students to learn English in the Falklands
Chilean lawmaker Gabriel Ascencio is promoting a program of scholarships for students from his constituency in the south of Chile to travel to the Falkland Islands to learn English and become proficient in the language. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesChiloe was Spain's last S American possesion and as Spain had lost interest in them they asked to be taken in by the British Empire.........
Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pity they were rejected really.....
I am sure that this individual must have connections of personal benefit with Argentina., as most Chilean businessmen and politicians do. It would be wise to start thinking of him as personna non gratta when dealing with Argentina. Hopefully that will send him a a clear message.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Smart!! You can talk to someone in every country with English (:
Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0lol ProRG pissed! Chile's smarter than Argentina, and Argies jealous of Chile's being able to make deals and succeed. LOL @ Arg
Oct 19th, 2012 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0The whole point of international business and diplomacy is that you accept that there will always be differences of opinions and interests but that trade and agreements must go ahead despite this. It's a shame that Argentina never grasped that.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0what is surprising is the quality of news that we need to read here. Like other anglo media corporations is definitely advocated to stupify people.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0half true, half right, half real, half honest
... as opposed to argentine Newspapers which are bastions of truth and justice with only the mightiest most worth stories highlighted. Mi culo.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately Spanish did not “take off”as English did. Could this have had something to do with the Reformation?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0If one thinks about mathematics a tremendous amount of development and ideas came from English, Scottish and German mathematicians such as Newton, Maclaurin, Brooke Taylor, Leibniz. Do not forget the French with geniuses such as Laplace, Fourier, Cauchy. In Switzerland there was the Bernoulli family, Leonhard Euler. Italy had Lagrange and others.
But I do not recall any from the Spanish speaking world. This makes one think, doesn't it?
@2 ProRG_South_American
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Typical - if you don't agree with someone's viewpoint you threaten and bully them.
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Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0mathematics came from Brits now?? You are so far up your own arse, one can actually spot your feet sticking out. The Greek, Italians, Babylonian, Egyptians, almost every Mediterranean country has contributed more to mathematics than Britain...
@2
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0So South America don't want anything to do with the Falklands eh?
Lol-suck on thus hard prosser RG.
Guzz as usual you twist peoples comments to suit your agenda.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Guzz
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure in our own small way, we contributed to mathematics:
Sir Isacc Newton - Calculus
George Boole - Boolean logic (1 + 1 = 1) the foundation of all computers
Alan Turing - cryptographic mathematics
John Napier - logarithms
John Wallis - many contributions to branches of mathematics
James Sylvester - matrices
James Clerk Maxwell - many fields including worlds first colour photo
Oliver Heaviside - operational calculus
John Littlewood - prime number theorems
Michael Francis Atiyah - vector theory advancement
John Conway - Knot Theory
Argentine Contributors
CFK - for advanced inflation miscalculations
Hmm, yep, that's it.
@10 guzz you fookin idiot where does it say mathamatics came from britain, read it again and inwardly digest before gobbing off.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 don't worry sussie Chile and the Falkland Islands will get along just fine,whilst you continue sponginging off the US
Just things like ”boolean logic (1+1=1), foundation of all computers” is an idiocy so big to spit out, it makes me wonder if you even have a clue yourself on the teachings you are talking about. What good does Boole do you, if you don't have a single clue what he was talking about?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying what good is the foundation for computer programming while you are sat trolling the internet?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 No but it obviously came in handy or you wouldn't be sat on a computer now would you spouting crap
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0First,the Islander students should learn English in Britain.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, I'm saying that all you lot know about Boolean logic is that Boole came up with it ;)
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boolean logic is when 1+1=1... Boole must be turning in his grave...
They are, in a BRITISH OVERSEA's TERRITORY part of Britain, TRY AGAIN
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Guzz
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you are not familiar with boolean notation, here it is in english..
1 or 1 = 1
1 and 0 = 0
0 and 0 = 0
not 1 = 0
not 0 = 1
Guzz, I've been in the computing industry since 1986, have a degree in electronics and I am well versed in boolean logic which is totally the foundation of computer programming. I suggest you swat up on boolean logic and do not tread in areas you are witless about. Heres a joke for you. If you understand I'd be surprised but here goes...
There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who do not!
And, nand, or, nor, exor, exnor, not.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Name them all, in english, when you are at it. Boolean logic is not only used in computers, it's the basic of all electronics. The reason is that a digit system with only 2 digits is perfectly transferable to an on/off, open/closed or yes/no circuit.
If you were what you say you are, you would never describe Boolean logic as “1+1=1”, that merely means that 2 inputs in an or-grind gives an output 1, should any input signal be 1, which is a consequence of the Boolean logic, not the logic in itself.
Your right guzz I know nothing about Boolean logic and don't pretend to either except it's used in computer programming, but I suppose your an expert as you seem to be in everything else on these forums, that uni in Sweden must be fookin good, although I don't know how you find the time to attend as your always on here.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0We keep hearing that apparently the Argentine people bear no malice or ill will toward the Falkland Islanders, so pray tell me why would anyone be persona non grata for suggesting they can help Chilean students learn English.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 Guzz
Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you have knowledge, maybe not, did you get the joke?
Here's a link to boolean notation.
http://courses.cs.vt.edu/~cs1104/BuildingBlocks/Chapter4.126.5.htm
Check out the 2nd table. Hence in boolean logic 1 + 1 = 1.
Glad you give boole credit for use of his work in electronics we brits appreciate the praise.
Guzz and other trolls like him always remind me of Monty Python:
Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And what have the Roman's ever done for us?”
Instead they're always complaining:
“And what have the British ever done for us?”
Well to help them answer that question I have provided a helpful link.
http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bl_british_inventors.htm
Of course on of the greatest inventions is the English language, which is the most widely spoken language in the world, it is the business language.
These Chilean students, like all language students, will benefit greatly from interacting with native speakers.
I.E
Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What has one and one ever given us, besides two or eleven.??
@18
Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“First,the Islander students should learn English in Britain.”
Why, when they learn it at home in the Falkland Islands?
Any more stupid suggestions?
*8 There was a great scientific society which existed long before all those mathematicians which you have listed.While most of Europe was in the dark ages a great civilization took hold in Spain. The region known by historians as The AN DALUZ. One of the greatest scientific civilizations which introduced maths into Europe.Mathematicians like AL- KHWARIZMI born in Spain and who wrote “ The calculations of Integration and equation”.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MASLAMA_ALMAJRITI who compiled conversion tables and so many others. Also books written on astrology and geometry during this time. But don´t come on this forum saying you do not know any scientists/mathematicians from the Spanish world as it ilustrates that you are not well read on this topic and the only thing that comes across from you is this bias which you show and which makes you ignorent .
#29 Abū ʿAbdallāh Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī was not born in Spain [sic, spain didn't exist] but was Persian, though did indeed provide many great contributions to mathematics (as indeed did many Muslims prior to the 15th century).
Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right though that Maslama al-Majriti was indeed born in what today is Spain, though he was not ethnically Iberian (as we would today consider Iberians).
You are very much overstating the contribution of Al-Andalus, Al-Andalus both prospered and suffered due to its position as an interface between the Christian north and Muslim south. In its time it was at the forefront of scientific advance (what little there was), however it's contribution to science is subsequently overshadowed by virtually every other nation in Europe.
Ascencio has great idea! While even Santiago has more native English-language speakers than the whole Falkland Islands population, it doesn't enjoy the immersive 24/7 English language community atmosphere present in the Falkand Islands.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An organized, structured English As A Second Language (ESL) program in the Falkland Islands will really boost Chiloé students language proficiency, as well as supporting another a more diverse type of home-stay tourism to the Falkland Islands.
The Falkland Islands are certainly the closest immersive English language community to Chiloé, and by far the safest for young students compared to next closest but very distant competitors as Georgetown Guyana or Miami Florida.
The Falkland Islands' community is quite special as a British OCT, in that already have some Islanders who are Chilean or of Chilean origin, and some of the the ESL resources needed to mount an organized, professional program are probably already present in some form?
Best is to learn German!!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one briton.
@29
Very spanish heros! Guzz dished the dirt and I defended my country's reputation and you respond by extolling the virtues of non-spanish mathematicians, pretty weak connection. Come on, tell us some proper ones!
Musky(#) Perhaps you should start Guzz off from simple Venn diagrams and then introduce Boolean algebra gradually. I think that he is confused by the “+” sign.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an aside have people heard the George Boole (1815 - 1864) got pneumonia by walking in the rain to his class at London University? He did not want to disappoint his students. It is said that when he was in bed trying to recover his wife, who believed in fighting fire with fire, threw a bucket of ice cold water over him. This killed him.
cheers.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 But SAVED by the argie contributors! Half uneducated slobs, half faggots!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Stolen from arabs? The same people the Spanish “fought” to get someone's country back. Always good to remind ourselves that the “Spanish” decided to replace one tyranny with their own before exporting it and coupling it with genocide!
@32 Demonstrably second best. World War 1 - beaten shitless! World War 2 - beaten shitless! Want to quote the Americans? 1914-18? Not until 1917. 1939-45? Not until 1943. How many Yanks died because they thought they knew best and wouldn't take British advice? And it shows. English-speaking Americans always like to have Brits on board! With good reason. Anybody remember Vietnam? Britain declined to assist. America lost! Always like to remember that. As well as what we did to krauts!
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Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe he told his wife he did “not, not want the ice bucket”.
Is anybody else here desperately waiting for at least one of Pro_RG's comments to make sense? I mean, just once, have a point or make some sense in your comments.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like an excellent idea, the Falklands receive the benefit of students and the finance they will bring while the students learn a language first hand from life long users. I hope this project goes well.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mind you I thought Argie land said that all of SA backed then in not recognising the Falklands in any way, so what is this?
@13
That last bit had me chuckling.
@38
Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They take some deciphering.
Doesn't always follow replies to his comments with further coherent arguments-remind you of any particular country in South America?
Sr Ascencio's mistake is to discuss the issue with Jon Benjamin. He is the British Ambassador in Chile, and has nothing whatsoever to do with education in the Falkland Islands. Sr Ascencio would be very welcome to contact the Director of Education in the Falkland Islands however.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol @ 37 :), lol @ errybody xcellent thread.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair, the UK has contributed an awful lot to both mathematics and physics, and much more. You can't compare a 1000 year old nation from the “first world” with a 200 year old similar from the “third world” though...
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More important is the fact that regardless what Boole contributed with, it doesn't mean you lot contributed with anything anyway... Why this eagerness to live of other peoples accomplishments?
The most assinine term for a south american to use is anglo this and anglo that. Ther is a tad over 209 million white latins living in south america, from a population of 387 million, more than half. The rest are either amerindian or mesitzo. What are you guzz, gb? Indian?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did a South american congress member actually say “Falklands”???
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pleasing news if correctly quoted.
Its all good! :)
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Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Criollo and mestizo, what does it matter?
Well lets do it, bring the young Chilean students over, treat them with the utmost respect, offer them the best facilities, teach them the best english, good manners, politeness, then introduce them to the odd Prince or two who fly big yellow search and rescue helos who will go to thier countrymens rescue when or whatever the conditions, show them round Mount Pleasant to show how serious we are about defending our overseas territories. Then ask them what they think of rgenweener ....win win
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, south americans like (not all) toss anglo around like they are such a minority and that is hardly the truth. I appreciate your candor in anwering that.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am missing Zhivago
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 jakesnake
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Is anybody else here desperately waiting for at least one of Pro_RG's comments to make sense?”
I have given up.
After all RG’s lies I have demoted I don't Think, aka The Turnip In Chief from the BIGGEST LIAR on MercoPress and promoted RG to The Liar In Chief as I think he deserves it.
He comes close to being the ‘Idiot In Chief’ as well, but there is so much competition among the trolls for that accolade.
I just can’t work out who he is. I thought at first he was another incarnation of O’Gara aka O’Gaga a supposed Irishman but I am not convinced. Perhaps those who knew O’Gara could let me know if they agree.
Interesting idea and we should push ahead and forge even better ties with Chile & other SA nations, after all the British people and the people of the Falkland's islands can be very useful to any country in SA.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe some of them will even make it to our prestigious universities.
@43
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0typical response when someone has lost the argument.
@34 Ozgood
Nice one!
@Musky
Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you wanted to show British (especially yourself) as masters of mathematics, algebra or whatever you have failed miserably with your statement over Boolean algebra logic with your 1+1=1.
1-Boolean logic mostly used in electronics and programming is based on conditional statements.
2-The one to find an application of that logic was a Polish Ukraine born better known as Henry Sheffer who proved that BA could be defined by using primitive binary operations. Today is used in electronics as NAND and NOR and programming languages as true or false.
So depending the condition of the variable or state of a given components program or circuit perform certain operation.
If ($Musky ==true) return; //whatever you like to perform here (this is true, 1, on)
If ($Musky ==false) return; //whatever you like to perform here (this is false, 0, off)
Example
$Musky=false;// defines variable initialisation, false in this case
If($Musky == true){ // self explanatory conditional statement
Print “Another Musky’s post without a clue about what he is talking about”;// print the given message
}else{ // $Musky is false, not set or returns 0 value
Print “Intelligent post made by others but Musky”; // print the given message
}
The code above will print a different message depending of the conditional state (true or false) of “Musky” variable.
Can you see how its works now?
“There are 10 types ... who understand binary and those who do not!”
Well you are one of the “who do not understand binary system” I guess.
Binary is base on 2 logical states 0 and 1 (BI= 2= bit) on and off and by adding logic pointers you can keep counting to whatever numbers and that is the reason why is so popular in electronics because with 4 bits you can count till 16 logical positios keeping smaller and cheap components.
0000=0 (decimal equivalents) all off
000I=1
00I0=2
00II=3
0I00=4
0I0I=5
0II0=6
0III=7
I000=8
I00I=9
I0I0=10
I0II=11
II00=12
II0I=13
III0=14
IIII=15
@53 dont take this the wrong way, but you dont get out much do you?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0He has a room with lots of computers and very sticky walls
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0poor child, such a miserable existence, all day spanking his monkey to mathmatics weekly, while frantically fingering his binary machine in the search of the ultimate climax, surrounded by a wall of well used fishy tissues.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0if he must practise in the dark art of fist pumping (and it is an art) then hygiene is a must, its only logical
I love it. It pisses the Brits to no end that Argentina will never like them as a people or country, nothing they can do will ever change that.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The English language being an “invention” reminds me of the pathetic claims like “the potato” is a Chilean or peruvian invention, or that chocolate is a Mexican invention.
@51
If you were, we would behave differently now would we? No, the UK is useless, more precisely, irrelevant in our economy or culture.
57 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos : Doubt many Brits care two hoots about Argentina not liking them. After all, many Brits don't care if the French don't like them -and view it as a good thing, too.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the price of being liked by Argies is surrendering the Falkland Islands community to Argentine domination, my impression is that Brits are not unhappy with being disliked by Argentina.
Nothing to do with the Falklands. The Falklanders are English so keep the islands I'm not concerned about that.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@57 brits pissed off that argentines dont like them?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0brits could not care less who argentina likes or dislikes,personally if the whole country was to disappear up their presidents asswipe overnight I would still sleep soundly, sorry too burst your spunk bubble, as for the invention of the english language that you mock, its funny how you thought it important enough to learn this language that you say is “pathetic”, and so you should with it being the most widely used language on the whole planet, the global buiness language too boot. Its all good!
@60
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You did not invent it you retard! Language is an evolutionary entity. I will never use English with non-English individuals, once I'm done with my studies. I actually mean what I say, unlike you losers.
I will speak 6 world languages and my time using English will be down to about 24%. I like English, I love its amazing vocabulary.
But I can't stand the “native” speakers. They need a good humbling for all the centuries of evil they wrought and its coming.
What a great idea by the Chilote congressman. Learning English in an English speaking country is certainly the best way to learn, and the Falklanders will get a little bit of our culture in return. Maybe their government could make some scholarships available for kelper kids to study in Chile. I hope that Piñera makes lots of these scholarships available as we need to have better and closer ties with our future oil and gas suppliers.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Pirate Love & Captain Poppy
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha you guys are very funny....
I have more hours in parties, discos, getting drunk and getting sex with cute girls than studding in my whole F@king life.
May be is genetic you know for someone like me it is easy to understand things like electronics, maths, chemistry, engineering, etc.
For others less fortunate like you guys its a matter of tortuous hours locked in your room trying to figure out how a binary system works and its useful for.
Well what can I do?
Is may fault to be so intelligent? Do I have to blame my parents to make me so attractive to women?
Now lets dig into your poor existence, you both sure are married having the same whinging wife for so long.
The same stuff everyday getting older and older, unsatisfied and more bitch every day while your stomach growths and growths and you hair is disappearing from your little heads.
Your little “gnocchi” getting lazy and even lazy to get up and not even with a 50 mg of Sildenafil can get enthusiastic to do any adequate job.
You both are bitter and depressed for that and the only entertainment you got on these days is to bash Argies to avoid to don’t feel so miserable.
Can you see how bad and miserable you are?
But don’t worry, you both need a couple of Brazilian travesties to get alive again.
It if what most yankies and English do in Thailand according with a yank friend I got.
A little bit of testoterone would help if not you can always by women dresses here http://www.dressbraw.com/Cheap-Evening-Dresses-4353/?gclid=CMnYpd32jrMCFQU5nAodIToAUw
Well I guess I was so nice after all, may be next time I will get a little bit offensive, who knows?
Musky
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lets complicare matters a bit, only for you, going from the binary digits to the hexadecimal (the one that is truly used in computers today).
Every block of four (0-15) binary digits will be represented as one single hexadecimal, letters A-F representing 10-15 (our decimal system only allows us the use of 10 numbers, as you should know.
Lets take the number.... 1 000 000, base 10.
In order to make it binary, we divide it by 2 and see what the rest is, so
100000/2 = 50000 rest 0
50000/2 = 25000 rest 0
25000/2 = 12500 rest 0
12500/2 = 6250 rest 0
6250/2 = 3125 rest 0
3125/2 = 1562 rest 1
1562/2 = 781 rest 0
781/2 = 390 rest 1
390/2 = 195 rest 0
195/2 = 97 rest 1
97/2 = 48 rest 1
48/2 = 24 rest 0
24/2 = 12 rest 0
12/2 = 6 rest 0
6/2 = 3 rest 0
3/2 = 1 rest 1
1/2 = 0 rest 1
So, 100000 base 10 (as in decimal) would be
1 1000 0110 1010 0000 base 2 ( as in binary), or
1 8 6 0 base 16 (as in hexadecimal, the system used in computers)
For your 1 + 1 = 1, it's most surely a true statement when talking Boolean algebra, it's just not Boolean algebra in itself, but merely a conscequence of it.
+ represents an OR-grind and the table looks like this
00 - 0
01 - 1
10 - 1
11 - 1
This merely means that if any input signal should be one, the output is 1 as well.
Compare it to an AND-grind, represented by * in the algebra,
00 - 0
01 - 0
10 - 0
11 - 1
Which would mean that every input signal must be 1 for the output to be one.
The reason you use mathematical operators is for reduction and simplification of circuits.
There you have it all, I wont bother with the octonal system, base 8, as I don't think it's used anymore...
You see Musky, there was never an argument to loose, only your own ignorance at stake, stating Boole, your very own Boole, not knowing what the heck he was on about in the 1st place...
What the hell has this got to do with Chilean students learning English in the Falklands ?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ask Musky, he's the one introducing Boole, I guess he had some quetions he needed answered...
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 055...Nicolas
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0You see thats “”Che idiots“” how they are inept for their languages...don't they !
There is of course a very good, new secondary school on the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) with plenty of room.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps an additional teacher may be required but I am confident that will not be a problem.
And what a time these lucky students will have in the midst of a small well knit community and there are already Chilean workers on the islands so they won’t be too homesick.
@59
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The Falklanders are English ”
Not all of them. The ones that were born in St Helena, Chile Wales, Scotland France etc etc and the Falkland Islands are not English, the clue's in the name.
However by your logic, the Argentines are Spanish.
@69
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that's what you antis say all the time. So forgive me if I dispense with the discernment for a community of 3.000 when you argie-haters dispense with it when we are 40 million and 7th larges country.
I think it is others who should try “logic” first. But given their culture, I will not hang around to wait for it.
@70
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AG the 7th larges (Sic.: largest) country?
Then it must have shrunk, you're 8th.
http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/world_statistics_by_area.htm
@70
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well that's what you antis say all the time.”
Giorgio
WHAT do you expect us to say?
Do you disagree with the logic that members of the population on the Falkland Islands not born in England, cannot be English?
The Falkland Islands are nowhere near England, the clue is in the name, Falkland Islands. People born on the Islands cannot be English. Neither are they Argentines, or Chinese or Israelis or Canadians, or Brazilians etc etc etc.
Hex for colours:
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Black:000000
White: FFFFFF
Blue Navy: 0000FF
Yellow: FFFF00
Green:008000
Grey: C0C0C0
Red: FF0000
Brutish can practice hex by editing the following mark up laguage line.
I'm a brutish idiot and this colour is black
I'm still a brutish idiot and this colour is red
I'm still a brutish idiot and nothing have changed and this colour is grey
I'm still a brutish idiot and nothing have changed but the Argies will burn our @ss with their missiles and this colour is orange
@61 oh dear, you could study 100 different languages but you will never have anything worth listening too in any language :)
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and where did i say “I invented english”? or that the whole of the english language was invented?, i said you were mocking the invention of the english langauge, there is a difference,
just a quick question the new words entered into the oxford english dictionary on a regular basis are none of these words invented??
examples for you to study : Ludology,bluetooth,vaporware,standalone.
if not invented,proffessor giorgio, what words did these evolve from?, do you get my point, english is a mixture of evolution of older words and the regular inclusion of regular invention of modern new words, but you already knew this.
74
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop that foolishness, languages are not invented. Next you say you invented pregnancy as well...
@72
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, I don't follow overly complicated UK rules of what is a country, a nationality, a dependency, a commonwealth, a principality, a whatever. No one in the world really cares much anyway. It's all controlled from London.
#76
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it's controlled from London, they do it rather well.
Anyway, its keeping you ( in your many aliases) thoroughly pissed off and there is jack all you can do about it but moan and whine.
vaporware is a spanglish word used by Ursino when he worked at Microsoft as developer to tell a client that a unix copy paste MS product was stopped from development.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0vapor(spanish)=Steam (that evaporates in the air easy)
ware=commercial intangible item
Then the terms vaporware become very popular when many companies marketed products that they never intent to produce just to keep customers close and keep them away from potential competitors.
@77
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you stopped using abusive language about my country you would never see me again.
Why don't you all try it?
I'll leave because I don't give a ferck about you, London, or the UK.
79
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you like youghurt ?
75 Guzz
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever heard of Esperanto?
I know it's crap and hasn't taken off, but it was constructed (and therefore synthetic).
@ 6 GastonBaires
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“what is surprising is the quality of news that we need to read here. Like other anglo media corporations is definitely advocated to stupify people.”
Problem easily solved - stop reading MercoPress - why do you, if it is so miserable?
81
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no invention, as people have been communicating by sound long before any present language...
vacancy: ESL teachers wanted for the Falklands..( pack a good coat)
Oct 21st, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a pity that Spanish never caught as English did. As an English speaker who has a working knowledge of Spanish I think that Spanish is more accurate than English with its two forms of the verb to be - ser and estar. There is also the use of the subjunctive and redundant pronouns. But that is not the point of this discussion.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine what would the world be like if the Spanish Armada had succeeded. Would we all have been speaking Spanish and would English be a second class language? It makes one think, doesn't it?
The junta might have got away with the 1982 invasion of the falklands if they had not imposed Spanish on the islanders and made the islanders drive on the RHS.
85 Ozgood
Oct 21st, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mmmm. I think their lack of success had more to do with the fact that they were cowards and that 3 Para, 42 Commando and all the other British units that took part were not.
You lot and the spanish armada have many things in common, especially sharing your heroics while killing women and children, torturing men and kidnapping freedom...
Oct 21st, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you’re talking about the Spanish Inquisition.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn’t expect “the Spanish Inquisition”.
The Spanish Inquisition was used by Queen Isabella to defend Catholicism and by her husband, Ferdinand as political police. His mind was not blinded by religious fanaticism. This religious fanaticism was continued by he Spanish Hapsburgs until the last one died in 1699.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1992 some of the indigenous people of Latin America refused to celebrate the 500th anniversary of the discovery of the new world by Columbus. What they said was that the discovery of their world (by the white man) had brought (venereal) disease, wars, pestilence and death.
The English also dealt in slavery and had nothing to be proud of in those days.
Even though the British (not just English) banned slavery and actively sought it out and hung the perpetrators.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Spanish (and others inc. the Americans) carried on with it for many decades until the American civil war. Some Middle-East ‘Sheiks’ still have their slaves.
So your point was what exactly?
Skru da Kueen of UK!
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
90 ChrisR (#)
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0My point was that the religious fanaticism and wars of hegemony of the Spanish Hapsburgs played a large part in the decline of Spain. After Phillip II died in 1598 Spain went into a depression which lasted 100 years.
England/Britain only abolished slavery in the 1830s.
Also look at
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Lslavery07.htm
British colonialism in the 19th century and American capitalism and technological progress in the 20th century were undoubtedly the main causes for the spread of English throughout the world. (Source: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/Lslavery07.htm
But read the whole article
@ DannyBerger
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's an old joke Danny, I guess you didn't get it
“There are 10 (here read 2) types ... who understand binary and those who do not!”
00000010=2
@Benson
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right I didn't get it... maybe because I'm getting older and older.
Sure I would realised that was a joke when I was 10000 years old and I was studding electronics. ha ha
94
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's the oldest geek joke in the book, makes them laugh every time...
89 Ozgood
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually it was a quote from Monty Pythons (look under comedy).
But I guess you never saw it.
@94 DanyBerger & @87 Guzz
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had to step away from the laptop for a short while, having a busy life doing this and that, as we all do.
I'm glad you kept up the mathematical 'wall of sound', nice to see your enthusiasm for british born Boole and even @53 effort at programming, nice to know that computing has reached as far as your household and even my binary gag has finally been understood. It's all well and good that @64 Guzz refreshes my knowledge of bits. One crucial factor is whilst 8 bits make a byte, 4 bits actually make a nibble, therefore two nibbles to a byte. At this rate Mercopress will be turning into a 'Idiots Guide to Computer Programming'... I'm still waiting for names of latin american mathematical pioneers...
97
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0El Cabeza Rodriguez, Palomita and el Morron, don't worry if you haven't heard of them. The same can be said about Boole...
@Musky
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest I have never being enthusiastic about Boole because he hasn’t invented anything at all and less involving Binary system and Computer Science.
1-Binary system existed since hundreds years ago found to be existed in India introduced by Pingala an Indian mathematician author of the Chandahsutra or something like that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingala
Also used in China, Africa and the Middle East since unknown time...
2-All what Boole wrote in his “The Laws of Thought” was based on previous work and inventions that have been made by others. He make a compilation like Andronicus of Rhodes did with Aristotle manuscripts and by saying “beyond the physic” to one of his assistant he become the father of the “Metaphysics”.
The logic of the false or truth in old as the first human being...
If (I have money)
I spend
Else
I don’t spend...
Eureka I have invented the basic logic of modern economy to don’t go in financial meltdown...
If I feel hungry I eat
Else
I don’t..
Wow I have invented the base of the nutrition.
None have a clue about what to do with what Boole wrote until Sheffer found that can have possible applications but seems that Sheffer never heard about Pingala and the If and else basic simple logic.
And if you have read something about Boole you should know that he couldn’t provide any proof or evidence about his statements. Seems he forgot to ask Pingala what all that theory was about.
What do you mean by mathematical pioneers? Someone that like Boole wrote a book about other people work?
With 3 Argies is enough?
“Luis Cafarelli” with long impressive curriculum
Partial Differential Equations
The regularity of free boundaries in higher dimensions
Homogenization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingala
Manuel Sadosky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingala
Wilfred Duran Creator of the COMIC language for computers.
glad you dug out some argentine mathematicians, about time too.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see the Utubians and wikipediacs are at it again. They may not know it's not considered a source of information by the world, other than the unfortunately educated that never learned research methods.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Poppy
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enlighten us please...
Are you telling us that Pingala did not developed the method of annotation in Binary that later was cited by Boole?
Do you know that the ancient Mayans used a vigesimal system?
.=1 __...=8 __....=9
And that the Incas have a primitive but effective calculator?
Here you will have a clever arithmetic operations made using Mayan system.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1bhOCJ8eijU
By The Way about source of information...
When you know about what are you talking about or do you have knowledge, the sources of information is irrelevant because you can figure out if what its showing to you is true or false (Boole here).
But when you are the “perfect ignorant” and you “don't know” you have to relay on the source of the information. What turns to be a matter of faith...
You know like this people who say “wow must be true because The Economist says that” or WSJ or ClarinMiente, or La Destruccion.
So if you have something relevant to say about math, Boole, Pingala, Philosophy or whatever please feel free to add your contribution.
@102 DB
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're flogging a dead horse. Mr Boole made a great contribution to mathematics his logic has been applied to electronic development and computing. You cannot downgrade him simply by saying that his stuff is so obvious. Boole did it (amongst other things) , defined it, documented and did it all right. His name is enshrined in the computing languages of c++, java, sql to name but 3. He is rightly acknowledged as the progenitor of this field of mathematics. So what if a Mayan has a clever mathematical mechanism for calculating the best time to rip out a hear, good for them. Your philistine answers are worthless.
Yep, that’s DB alright a complete Palastine
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Musky
Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0To whom is attributed the first known description of a binary numerical system 4th century BC?
Pingala from India.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingala
Who developed the Propositional logic system?
Chrysippus of Soli 200 years BC
Tomorrow is Monday || Tomorrow is Friday
If Tomorrow is not Monday
Tomorrow is Friday
Who redefined the Binary System in 1600?
Leibniz, also known as the foundation of digital logic used in electronics and computation.
Who have reshaped and enunciated the principal properties known as conjuction, disjuntion, negation, indent, set incl and empty set?
Leibniz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingala
So as you can see there is a long way until Boole appears in scene with his compendium of “The Laws of Thought” taken from previous work made by others.
So can we say that Boole was the Salieri of Pingala, Leibniz among others?
I hope you know who was Saliei?
Ok someone wanted to give his name some recognition because read his book fine.
That’s all...
I know nothing of Bolocks logic or any other mathematical theorems but I would offer to go down chili way to learn them funkers proper inglish ,in it.The stuff they can speak roun victoria station way,mate.I paid $19 the other day for a glass of sprite you don't need no maths,thought this was abaaut spekin inglish? to work out thats funking expensive,what.
Oct 26th, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is the deal with this guy's party, the Chilean Christian Democrats? He's quite obviously trolling Argentina here, and the CDs were a right wing opposition party under Allende, but they are now in the Concertacion, right? Maybe Bachelet should cut them loose?
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