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NML-Capital targeting second Argentine navy vessel docked in South Africa
A second Argentine navy vessel has been targeted by NML-Capital which apparently has contracted a renowned South African law office to impound the corvette ARA Espora. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesagain iam impressed it made the journey accross the atlantic , a true blue water navy jajajaja
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kitty....kitty....kitty....
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon NML-Capital, take the bait!
And the game of Cat & Mouse continues....
Argentina will NEVER yield, except our Flag ship, and our other ship and anything else that belongs to Argentina that we can't get back to Argentinian soil pronto!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt CFK will fight to the last of her government, and when she has no more 'advisors', ministers or military chiefs to sacrifice, the people will come looking for her...
I'm making popcorn, anyone want some? :p
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0What the hell do they want that rust bucket for “let's a have a military exercise lika they do else a where, oh shit we broke a down, sorry gang, carry on a without us”.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn, is that popcorn ready yet?
Two months to repair ! i had thought it was a generator that had packed up not the main engine. They might have over work the hamsters this time
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 02 months should be plenty of time for Singer to seize it, once the Argies pay the German technicians for its repair of course. This is just great entertainment. I love the way the Argies say that South Africa are their friends, as if they don't have an independent legal system.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's is the the problem - the hamsters wheel broke
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0This articla highlights how Southern states operate differently. Political and trade links between Argentina and South Africa should have no relevance to a commercial legal dispute passing through the courts.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0However as it is South Africa I would not be surprised if it did. The hope that Nelson Mandela brought to that country has long since evaporated. When he finally dies all hope will be lost. There was a desire that South Africa could lead their continent into the 21st century but it seems they are slipping into the mould of most other African states.
How embarrassing!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0l actually cringe for them, even though they are not worth it.
On second thoughts, they want to steal my home & are getting snakey because they can't get it.
Screw them, they think that they don't have to pay their debts.
Very haughty & arrogant,
Please, Argentina, send another ship to.......where ever it can be seized!
Snigger.
I would hope that politics are left out of any court judgement over this ship but i doubt it very much as some presidents like full control over every aspect of the country. It will be interesting to see how they handle this.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I assume it's engine troubles mean it isn't capable of getting the hell out of town.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0What Argentina needs is to develop a home grown nuclear defence program so that it can nuke it's way past the rest of the world.
This would all make a box office hit comedic fantasy - but the sad thing is, its a C21 documentary. Would you pass me that popcorn, please?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 LOL! I think P-H is on to that and organising it from his mother's basement in Canada as we speak.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm a bit disappointed. I've just been rummaging through old threads and stumbled upon this which I completely missed.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2012/10/08/ghana-court-to-hold-hearing-on-retained-argentina-s-ara-libertad-on-tuesday
Post 50 onwards where “Arifu Gobakuwi ” seems to be threatening everyone with who knows what? It reminds me of an old friend who had a breakdown and was diagnosed with hyperactive mania. He was all over the web with posts like that - he even claimed to be the son of God. Unfortuantley he did it in his own name and some of his comments are still viewable if you google his name. While his mental health is now “controlled” to a great extent he is still unable to work and would probably struggle to if any prospective employer were to google his name. His additional misfortune is that he has a very unusual name so it's hard to miss.
Is Arifu Gobakuwi still around?
Very soon
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The mighty clever CFK wont have to worry abt de-militarising the south atlantic,
NML will do it for them,
Starting with the Argentina [navy]
Ya couldn’t make it up,
Laugh Argies laugh.
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@15 Yes, it is TTT.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 yes there was a war it was the battle of Tema fought by the warship ARA Libertad and her brave crew, out numbered and out gunned they fought the law and the law one. 279 seamen escaped leaving some crew to fight a rear action (sounds gay) .This Victory(copy write Royal Navy, also see proper flagship) will never be written in world history but will be Argentina history adapted and altered for CFK as she see's fit.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Samuel Mihailowic
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alejandro Sarmotin
Jorge Petrovic
Tora Rasslin
Do you read these articles and comment ,if you do probable laugh them
But,there are no real Argentines here, can not know all of who you are.
The way NML Capital is arming itself they'll be able to invade Argentina to recover the rest of their debts with their own navy.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0yeah that's right, try to change the subject....what was it again? Ahhhh yes! the mighty Argentine Navy, scourge of the Oceans is being siezed piece by piece in litigation....by the bailiffs....
What can one do but laugh one's arse off?
:-)))
@2 - Think
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a game of Cat and Mouse, the Cat usually wins. In this case the Cat certainly isn't Argentina but NML.
I like the way you're trying to make this sound like there is some 'cunning' plan behind the whole thing, that Argentina is suddenly going to 'spring' the trap and catch NML. But that is purely in your own imagination.
Oh, I just wanted to add, as I know you worry about it and are always posting about it, but the UK is now out of recession.
http://news.sky.com/story/1002496/recession-ends-amid-olympic-games-boost
I'll bet you can sleep easy tonight knowing that.
22.. what great news, we will await a troll response re- the economy, probably and this is just a guess will post some stock exchange information showing tesco shares -12p. ajajajaja
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0what a great day to be british. Now we are out of recession we could lend the argtards some cash to fix their mighty corvette and broken down destroyer, plus the stranded flagship
uuuaahhhahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0awesome!!! fokking awesome, it just gets better and better
9- actually South Africa is pretty switched on - has big internal security problems yes, and you cannot move 80% of the population up to the level the other 20% have had for generations quickly.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It all depends on whre their Courts sit as regards the Govt - so long as the 2 are seperate- as in Ghanea and most other democracies - then it will beup to the courts and Lawyers to decide if there is a case - and the S>A>Govt will stay out of it.
Not really a case of who is friends with who - a few years ago a Russian vessel was impounded here by a court writ as its owners had not paid a repair bill to Germany a few years old - no pressure received in tiny Stanley from the Russians!! It was a legal issue - and after a few months the Russian owners coughed up!
This one will resolve itself in a few days I guess one way or the other.
I assume it wasn't a vessel from the Russian navy???
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was neutralised by master yoda, as was TTT.
You have no idea the power of the force.
Does this mean that toby the titti troll will now become Baruti Dingane from Pretoria?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why the hell does Argentina always seem to think that presidents can influence tha law of another countires land......the world is different outside of argentina.
Arifu - you should buy yourself a tin hat. The NML navy will be invading Argentina any day. The frigate will probably have to tow the corvette but the fire power should be enough to overwhelm the nation.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 029
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said, I have been neutered. I am forbidden from expressing any strong opinions. In fact even posting here I am breaking the conditions of the agreement and by the time the day is out, they might even delete my posts.
30 Arifu_Gοbakuwi
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who's that then? The CIA? Mossad? Columbian drug Cartels or your social worker?
If they grab this 2nd ship I will pee my pants laughing so hard.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they do what does Arg have left for naval defense? An icebreaker?
bahahahahhhaaa
His psychiarist. They are putting him back on IV meds
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0& 19
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know these names ?maybe this event's real heroes !
tell us who are they ? if you are real Argentine.
@31 - Idlehands
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No it's them Aliens from Planet X who are going to come and 'probe' him! LOL
@32 - Yankeeboy
I believe they still have a rubber dingy too, but it has a puncture. The puncture repair kit is held up in customs waiting for the RG Navy to export soy beans of the same value. :)
& 21
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know the names who they are,maybe this event's real heroes?
If you are real Argentine you can tell us .
The real distractioners are all other comment names not me !
@37 AG
Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Words are gold.”
But nothing gold can stay...
Yes, the message is there for all Argentinians to see - anywhere in the world where there is an Argentinian asset is now at risk of being expropriated up to the value of the outstanding Argentinian debt.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinian people are not going to like the impact on their country, but this is no different to the British parading on the streets against the pain of paying off Labour's excesses.
Nation-keeping is like house-keeping .... keep within the budget and be happy; exceed the budget and the baliffs call “Time please!”
39. What is even worse is the ship in SA is probably worth scrap, but if it has a lot of asbestos it will have a negative worth because it will have to be removed and disposed of properly.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So NML may take it just for the embarrassment to CFK!
Then bill back the scrap expenses to their account!!
Haahahaaha
@2think
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“C'mon NML-Capital, take the bait!”
Bait?? Cat & Mouse???
No, routine procedure - start the process whenever they land.
Inexorable, inevitable...
@2 Best thing is that NML now has “precedent”.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 What's this? Are you climbing aboard the prat_muncher bandwagon. Or are you assuming, as I would, that argieland would simply succeed in blowing itself off the face of the planet. Thereby saving us the problem!
@30 You've been neutered for years.
@34 Gabble, gabble, meaningless gabble.
@36 The “real” names of Tom & Jerry. Who cares. Your next “offering” will be reported.
@37 Buy a bucket. Or clingfilm. Clingfilm can be wound round your head to give a feeling of breathlessness. It's exciting. Don't you like excitement?
@40 It could be used in the Falklands as a breakwater! Just as a thought. How much might it cost to fly THIS crew back to argieland?
Trillions in debt, mainly to your pensionists.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A population that is getting older and older, ready to collect their pensions.
A shrinking young population to upkeep the pensions.
An increasing unemployment, especially amongst younger people.
A market that left the ship years ago.
Companies following its trail to save their own arses, taking more and more jobs with them.
A service market that in the end is dependant on fresh input...
The service sector is next, Brits... Enjoy the fregata.
Stats don't lie but liars use stats. Mixed mestizo, shows you know nothing. The USA doesn't consider employment under 21 a concern. I know in countries like yours where the tribes have families at 12 and working young people is imporetant to the tribal elders (22 year olds). In the SA under 21 are stil typcially in college.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you mix bred indians wish you could borrow trillions
@42
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Trillions in Debt= Yet the UK has a AAA star credit rating and the country has the ability to pay it off.
2. Older population/pensions?= The UK is aging at a much lower rate compared to other countries like France, Germany, Japan etc.
3. Shrinking young population?=UK has a higher birth rate then most countries in Europe and as a result the population is increasing annually.
4. Increasing unemployment?= Unemployment just fell again and more people are in work then 2010.
5. A market that left the ship years ago? Is the recent Jaguar/Land Rover move in Brazil not proof of the opposite?
6. Companies= Again read point 4/5
7. Service market dependent on fresh input?= Just like every other country on earth then?
8. Service sector?= Every country on earth has a service sector and like Britain Uruguay's makes up the largest % of you countries GDP.
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAAA!! I love this!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't they go after Tango 01, Kretina's plane?? It's in the USA for maintenance?? Shake Kretina to the bones!!
42... That's you told , try to research your rants a little bit before posting.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 044
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. AAA according to yourselves, not the Chinese...
2. Yet the population is still ageing, meaning more pensionists to upkeep in a near future.
3. Europe's population as a whole is decreasing. Fact is that the ones that DO have many kids in Europe have origins in a non-westener country, mainly muslims. So you might be right, you are getting more and more... muslims (which is fine by me, by all means)
4. Western factories closing in Europe and moving production elsewhere is not a sign of falling unemployment...
5. Again, Jag LR moving to Brazil creates job indeed.... in Brazil.
6. I'm quite sure that the UK profit in this deal is un cero a la izquierda...
7. Indeed, hence yours is in trouble...
8 May be, but the size of the service sector is quite linear to the production sector, and not at all a foundation as the latter is...
22# the famous LEP
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In a game of Cat and Mouse, the Cat usually wins. In this case the Cat certainly isn't Argentina but NML.
Can you gives some examples of when the mouse has won.In view of your perceptive statement that the cat 'usually' wins,I am interested to know when the mouse has won and how it achieved it.
@42 Guzz
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I told you that the argies were not telling the truth about this ship.
Generator! Mi culo.
As for this tub being taken there is a great precedent now, so it might happen again. Depends if the SA Gov are as bent as they seem to be.
They are certainly stupid over their aids problem. Don't forget they still have 'Winnie Mandela’ (though she isn't, the biggest crook and liar in the country).
But you just have to bask in the infamy of it for TMBOA! infamy, infamy, they’ve all got it infamy! (Apologies for the Kenneth Williams / Carry On films moment).
LOLs
@47 - Guzz
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pensionists is not a word. Try pensioners.
It is of little relevance what you believe, time will tell, although I love the fact that the Chinese can do no wrong in your eyes. Well the Chinese economy is hitting rough patches too, like everyone else.
However, this thread is about whether NML will seize yet another Argentine ship.
How will Cristina get out of this one? I mean, she's already sacrificed just about everyone she is capable of.
Do you have a thought on that, Guzz? Or are you going to keep posting irrelevant drivel trying to distract the thread?
One would think that as a 'loyal' Uruguayan, you would be glad to see that Argentina has become an international pariah state that no one will invest in. Surely that means Uruguay will reap the benefits when those investors come a knocking.
It really is 'amazing' how such a 'loyal' Uruguayan can support a government that is doing it's best to stop Uruguay developing.
My, my, Uruguay doesn't need people who are have more loyalty to another country than they do to their own.
49
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I got to admit that South Africa playing the same part as Ghana would be a major blow to my cause. Not so much for the sake of Argentina, but more so for that I'm counting South Africa for an ever closer friend in global politics.
Still, engine parts do require a shipment of components at times, although I do agree that it is uncommon not to have parts for common failures on board....
Enjoy the fregata, that's all I have to say on the matter. With all respect, you want to talk ships, I'm on a whole different agenda...
Come in number 41, your time is up!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 - Yuleno
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My tight fisted friend who doesn't believe in helping anyone but himself, and derides others for doing so.
Well I thought you had some intelligence. One of 2 things happen in a game of cat and mouse.
1. The mouse wriggles free, but the cat continues the chase by stalking the mouse looking for the right time to pounce.
2. The cat catches the mouse and kills it.
That is why Think's metaphor was inappropriate for his argument. You see the mouse is Argentina, who has wriggled free on numerous occasions from its financial obligations. NML is the cat, patiently stalking Argentina looking for a chance to pounce, in this case Ghana and now South Africa.
Now the mouses' family bemoan the loss but they know they are not powerful enough to take on the cat or prevent it from pouncing again and again and again.
So you see Think's game of cat and mouse is a game where Argentina cannot win.
@47 You're thinking Latin Europe, aka South Europe.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Oct 25th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not any sort of Argentinian and I'm pleased that I'm not. After all, we British don't have to worry about the humiliation of our warships being impounded, or about them breaking down for that matter.
Guzz, now I know most, at least the US Navy can machine their own parts, carry extra shafts, there is very little that cannot be machined in the ships machine shop. What they do not have, the Navy or US Air Force would fly it in. What happened to argentines machine shop?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56 Captain Poppy
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Captain was assured that they had everything that they normally carried on board before the ship sailed.
Quote:
“A can of W80 won't do it”.
Note for Brits: W80 is the AG equivalent to WD40.
Looking at it from NML's point of view, the Espora class weigh about 1,800 tons, give or take.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scrap steel goes for what, $260/ton.
Therefore ARA Espora translates as about $460k.
Oh joy of joys!!!!! You could not make this up.... This is wonderful news!!! I would like to extend my congratulations and thanks to NML-Capital for single handedly giving ol' Turkey Neck / TMBOA / KFC what she wanted; A de-militarized South Atlantic!!!!!!
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
better get the row boats out lads......................
& 55
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not Argentine !
then who is Argentine here,let's ask these names on.
You can't understand these events if you don't know these names.
> W80 is the AG equivalent to WD40.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're letting INDEC label their products now?
@60
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go on then, astonish us with what this story is “really” about.....
It looks to me like your incompetent navy broke one of it's ships through poor maintainence so it had to put into harbour, while it's in harbour it could be siezed because of Argentinas debts. Right?
@30 Tobakuroll Arsellinbago Tromog Just a combo of your nicks for a change. Final opinion of you is that you're very, very unintelligent, and racist, fascist and ego-tistical. And you still owe me a thesis by the way ;)
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 053# LEP.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great story.
Are mice now extinct or are there some left,and why haven't the cats killed them.
Do you have any other stories you have memorised?
62 WestisBest
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think TINX is a BOT like McClick. It seems that it's not only Argentine Trolls that change their names.....AI BOT's do uit too.
Who is McClick ?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Click ?
of course everybody have to “” click “” while pushing comment button at these pages.
if it is implied clicking as a symbolic name then everybody is McClick here.
6 - admittedly not russian navy no! A cruise ship but ex navy spyship so probably still state owned and chartered out. But Russian flag and crew.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“once the Argies pay the German technicians for its repair of course.”
Will they actually give the Germans money or borrow it for the repairs then default?
Poor Argentina, the populist has no clue as to what she has given away,
Oct 26th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0She Braggs about sovereignty over the Falklands,
And yet gives the sovereignty of her own assets to others,
You guys had better wake up before NML comes a knocking at YOUR door. lol.
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I for one like the idea of creating vulture tax on imports to recover the capital loss. Or a nuclear defence program 100% Made in Argentina. I already have a test zone code name FI.
Oct 26th, 2012 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Austerity anyone? Hunger makes people say dumb things.
@70 Pirat-Hunter - ALEX VARGAS in Canada
Oct 26th, 2012 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Alex on Facebook;
https://www.facebook.com/avargas2001
Alex Vargas
www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=332871196758497&set=pb.100001068575678.-2207520000.1350436
71
Oct 26th, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0So?
@72
Oct 26th, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“So?”
So, Obviously one of your bonehead fanatical Campora followers.
“Deranged” as Think put it. :-D
73
Oct 26th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because he has facebook?
You are aiming for clouds...
He even looks like a plonker
Oct 26th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 071 Troy Tempest
Oct 26th, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I love his fb splash page.
A dead arsehole as his lead! Ha, ha, ha.
That can't be him on the large picture though: who the hell would let him near that sort of equipment.
Before you know where he was he would be making a nuclear missile!! LOLs
@76 Chris
Oct 29th, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The equipment?
I noticed that too.
Perhaps CBC NEWS was doing interviews with the mentally-ill, or homeless foreigners in Toronto ??
I certainly wouldn't leave anything of value lying around near him.
@75 Isolde
Yes, a real charmer to meet in the street, I'll bet.
I'm sure I would have an inferiority complex too, if I looked like that.
:-D
Someone needs to put a little cream on alex face and let some cat lick that fuzz off
Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz could do that. ;-)
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