Falkland Islands fishing company Georgia Seafoods joined Scottish and English seafood producers to exhibit as part of the UK pavilion at the China Fisheries & Seafood Exposition held in Dalian, China last week. Read full article
Falkucking PATAGONIAN squid???????''''' sorry but everything everything that is patagonian is argentine or chilean, in no way is british or FIFI
what a pittyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
If the squid is patagonian is argentine. No other way.
Great to see The Falklands fisheries getting out there globally and promoting its resources caught within its borders, fantastic news.
Hope to see more of the same.
But Argentina stole Patagonia, thieves murderers, pirates etc...
Of course, the Chinse support Argentina 100% right? They would never trade with the Falkland Islands. Oh wait a minute, the Chinese couldn't give a flying fig about Argentina.
They just want quality products and fair prices.
By the way, no country is entitled to own the fish in the sea. So your entire post is inaccurate, irrelevant and very, very desperate!
China says they support Argentina rights to the Falklands but that is just to keep in Argentina's good books, just the same as with Chile, Uruaguay, Brazil, and all the other South American calls of support. The reality though is far from what Argentina sees as countries supporting their claims. FOr example Chinese companies wanting to buy Falklands' fish and oil Chilean President in the UK wanting to further their relations with the UK and promising that shipping will not be stopped to the Falklands. It seems to me that everyone is just giving lip service to Argentina whereas the truth is that it's just business as usual, the only ones missing out on the growth of the Falklands is actually Argentina!!!! WIll they ever learn???? I doubt it, poor old Argentina is sinking - perhaps someone will throw them a lifeline........?
@5
perhaps someone will throw them a lifeline........?
they will have better luck finding an argentine poiltician actually changing their dollars for pesos, or a S.A country actually standing by argentina in its expansionist aspirations, or an argentine vessel actually finishing its patrol without being towed back in, or Govt run INDEC actually releasing the OFFICIAL Argentine inflation figures....
Would you like us to set up border control to stop the squid coming into our waters and getting caught Malen? Maybe you could issue them with passports in case they want to leave the area.
#'8
Correct me if I am wrong, but does not CHILE have a part of Patagonia or does Argentina now claim the whole area ?
I note that the largest catches were in FALKLAND ISLAND waters - NOT ARGENTINA
maybe you think it is FI patagonian squid, because they speak english................in that case you will have to proove it
Patagonian is a region, part of Arg and Chile only.
8 malen
Don't start that rubbish again.
Patagonia is a region, not a political entity. The name was thought up by Magellan, before Argentina or Chile were even thought of.
You don't own the penguins, and you don't own the squid. They do not recognise your geopolitical pretensions.
Monty YOU dont own the penguins neither the fish, so YOU dont change their names, becuase they already have one and it is the original representative name of our region.
And the Falkland Islands have been British longer than Patagonia has been Argentinian, hasn't it?
But again your posts are irrelevant. No one disputes what the squid is called, but it was caught by Falklands fishermen in Falklands waters.
Get over yourself. Just because an animal is called after a region doesn't make it the property of that region.
If that were the case, you wouldn't be able to buy Cornish pasties outside of Cornwall, Scotch eggs outside of Scotland, French Onion Soup outside of France, Begium waffles outside of Belgium, Chicken Kiev outside of Kiev...you get the picture?
@14 Aaah, but we do own the Falkland Islands. Those Islands whose name you are not allowed to change because you have no rights there. The Patagonian toothfish is also known as Chilean sea bass. So what does it have to do with an argie. It is found around most sub-Antarctic islands. You would do far better claiming for the Patagonian weasel.
15 the Patagonian has been 6000 years land of indegenous and they continue living in Argentina.
And yes Patagonia is part of 2 countries arg chile, with geopolitical divisions.
regions for us are subdivisions of the country according to weather, geography, characteristics, etc.
6000 years, and then the Argentinians came along and committed genocide against them, stole their land, and forced the survivors to live under colonial subjugation, or tried to wipe them out through rape, murder and ethnic cleansing.
Even today the indigenous people of Patagonia are marginalised, sidelined and are still having their land stolen by the Argentine government.
Argentina has only existed since 1853. That's not 6000 years is it?
Patagonia was a name given by Magellan not the indigenous population and the squid don't care whether they're called Patagonian, Chilean, Falkland, Asian or French. It's completely irrelevant.
They were caught by Falkland fishermen and taken to this seafood event in China. The Chinese don't care if the squid are Patagonian, French, Polynesian, Falkland or Mongolian.
They only care if they taste good, and can be bought for a reasonable price.
@ProRG - yes China, in theory, supports Argentina's claims for the Falklands but I know for a fact that they have, and will, make deals for falklands oil and gas, and, as we have seen, they will also buy the fish stock that comes from these Islands. China can side with Argentina all she likes but the status quo will not change, especially as long as Argentina supports China's claim for Tibet, you see what you have to understand is that saying something is different to your actions, don't you have that expression in the States Actions Speak louder than words? ProRG - why don't you join the Sean Penn fan club and go and have sex with Chavez or something cos you're wasting your time on here.
Hello, everyone. Just my two cents but as far as I see it China supports an Argentinian claim to sovereignty of the Falkland Islands because they also ascribe to both the idea of randomly turning back the historical clock and territorial integrity when it comes to making sovereignty claims. Obviously in both cases selecting a notion of territorial integrity and a historical time period that best suits them just see the South China Sea.
This doesn't mean China isn't going to be pragmatic when it comes to trade in product that is in demand.
I never knew territorial integrity spread to animals/birds/fish that happen to share a name with a place although I do think it would make the world that little bit more interesting. Just think of the exciting trade disputes if Atlantic City decides to make a claim to all the Atlantic Cod that are caught or the Portuguese Navy has to take responsibility for every injury at the hands of a Portuguese Man O' War jellyfish.
I think that depends on what side of the border you are standing on. The Chileans may well say no one likes the Argentines. In the Falklands you may not find many people who like the Argentines either. Especially if they try to claim our fish!
@4
As people from the Falkland Islands moved to and settled in Patagonia before the genocidal pirates from Buenos Aires arrived, Patagonia is British by prior settlement therefore the fish are British fish. (From the Falklands to Patagonia-Mainwaring).
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Disclaimer & comment rulesFalkucking PATAGONIAN squid???????''''' sorry but everything everything that is patagonian is argentine or chilean, in no way is british or FIFI
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what a pittyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
If the squid is patagonian is argentine. No other way.
Great to see The Falklands fisheries getting out there globally and promoting its resources caught within its borders, fantastic news.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hope to see more of the same.
@1 - Malen
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Argentina stole Patagonia, thieves murderers, pirates etc...
Of course, the Chinse support Argentina 100% right? They would never trade with the Falkland Islands. Oh wait a minute, the Chinese couldn't give a flying fig about Argentina.
They just want quality products and fair prices.
By the way, no country is entitled to own the fish in the sea. So your entire post is inaccurate, irrelevant and very, very desperate!
Dont worry, everybody knows PATAGONIA IS ARGENTINA, there is no other way.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China says they support Argentina rights to the Falklands but that is just to keep in Argentina's good books, just the same as with Chile, Uruaguay, Brazil, and all the other South American calls of support. The reality though is far from what Argentina sees as countries supporting their claims. FOr example Chinese companies wanting to buy Falklands' fish and oil Chilean President in the UK wanting to further their relations with the UK and promising that shipping will not be stopped to the Falklands. It seems to me that everyone is just giving lip service to Argentina whereas the truth is that it's just business as usual, the only ones missing out on the growth of the Falklands is actually Argentina!!!! WIll they ever learn???? I doubt it, poor old Argentina is sinking - perhaps someone will throw them a lifeline........?
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm liking the new mantra PATAGONIA IS ARGENTINA
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As it already is it is hard to dispute and if they teach that to their kids they may forget about the Falklands altogether.
@5
Nov 16th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps someone will throw them a lifeline........?
they will have better luck finding an argentine poiltician actually changing their dollars for pesos, or a S.A country actually standing by argentina in its expansionist aspirations, or an argentine vessel actually finishing its patrol without being towed back in, or Govt run INDEC actually releasing the OFFICIAL Argentine inflation figures....
....snowballs chance in hell.
Its name is loligo gahi, and patagonian squid. No other way, but PATAGONIAN, see the map.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.fao.org/fishery/species/2713/en
Would you like us to set up border control to stop the squid coming into our waters and getting caught Malen? Maybe you could issue them with passports in case they want to leave the area.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#'8
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct me if I am wrong, but does not CHILE have a part of Patagonia or does Argentina now claim the whole area ?
I note that the largest catches were in FALKLAND ISLAND waters - NOT ARGENTINA
maybe you think it is FI patagonian squid, because they speak english................in that case you will have to proove it
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonian is a region, part of Arg and Chile only.
8 malen
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't start that rubbish again.
Patagonia is a region, not a political entity. The name was thought up by Magellan, before Argentina or Chile were even thought of.
You don't own the penguins, and you don't own the squid. They do not recognise your geopolitical pretensions.
So Malen, how do you explain the Norwegian rat? And I am not talking about Guzz or Think.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Monty YOU dont own the penguins neither the fish, so YOU dont change their names, becuase they already have one and it is the original representative name of our region.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 - Malen
Nov 16th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Falkland Islands have been British longer than Patagonia has been Argentinian, hasn't it?
But again your posts are irrelevant. No one disputes what the squid is called, but it was caught by Falklands fishermen in Falklands waters.
Get over yourself. Just because an animal is called after a region doesn't make it the property of that region.
If that were the case, you wouldn't be able to buy Cornish pasties outside of Cornwall, Scotch eggs outside of Scotland, French Onion Soup outside of France, Begium waffles outside of Belgium, Chicken Kiev outside of Kiev...you get the picture?
You posts show you to be immature.
They should just call them Falkland Squid instead. It would save Malen from having a heart attack.....or maybe not.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Aaah, but we do own the Falkland Islands. Those Islands whose name you are not allowed to change because you have no rights there. The Patagonian toothfish is also known as Chilean sea bass. So what does it have to do with an argie. It is found around most sub-Antarctic islands. You would do far better claiming for the Patagonian weasel.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading about all this squid gives me one hell of an appetite, happy fishing!
Nov 16th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 the Patagonian has been 6000 years land of indegenous and they continue living in Argentina.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And yes Patagonia is part of 2 countries arg chile, with geopolitical divisions.
regions for us are subdivisions of the country according to weather, geography, characteristics, etc.
Nice try. China supports Argentina!
Nov 16th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 -Malen
Nov 16th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 06000 years, and then the Argentinians came along and committed genocide against them, stole their land, and forced the survivors to live under colonial subjugation, or tried to wipe them out through rape, murder and ethnic cleansing.
Even today the indigenous people of Patagonia are marginalised, sidelined and are still having their land stolen by the Argentine government.
Argentina has only existed since 1853. That's not 6000 years is it?
Patagonia was a name given by Magellan not the indigenous population and the squid don't care whether they're called Patagonian, Chilean, Falkland, Asian or French. It's completely irrelevant.
They were caught by Falkland fishermen and taken to this seafood event in China. The Chinese don't care if the squid are Patagonian, French, Polynesian, Falkland or Mongolian.
They only care if they taste good, and can be bought for a reasonable price.
Move along Malen, nothing for you here. :)
Malen, perhaps you would like to inform us in what year Argentina took over Patagonia and by what treaty.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is Skare the worst, most incompetent autobot ever let loose on the web??
Nov 16th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ProRG - yes China, in theory, supports Argentina's claims for the Falklands but I know for a fact that they have, and will, make deals for falklands oil and gas, and, as we have seen, they will also buy the fish stock that comes from these Islands. China can side with Argentina all she likes but the status quo will not change, especially as long as Argentina supports China's claim for Tibet, you see what you have to understand is that saying something is different to your actions, don't you have that expression in the States Actions Speak louder than words? ProRG - why don't you join the Sean Penn fan club and go and have sex with Chavez or something cos you're wasting your time on here.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hello, everyone. Just my two cents but as far as I see it China supports an Argentinian claim to sovereignty of the Falkland Islands because they also ascribe to both the idea of randomly turning back the historical clock and territorial integrity when it comes to making sovereignty claims. Obviously in both cases selecting a notion of territorial integrity and a historical time period that best suits them just see the South China Sea.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This doesn't mean China isn't going to be pragmatic when it comes to trade in product that is in demand.
I never knew territorial integrity spread to animals/birds/fish that happen to share a name with a place although I do think it would make the world that little bit more interesting. Just think of the exciting trade disputes if Atlantic City decides to make a claim to all the Atlantic Cod that are caught or the Portuguese Navy has to take responsibility for every injury at the hands of a Portuguese Man O' War jellyfish.
Save the squid, as Cristina called for earlier in the year =)
Nov 16th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 b_k
Nov 16th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what she actually said is - lets catch as many as we can so the the Falkland's have less to catch”
@27
Nov 16th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are fired!
1 Malen
Nov 16th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about poor old Chile? Don't they own any of Patagonia?
no ones likes chilotes in Patagonia
Nov 16th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 030
Nov 16th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that depends on what side of the border you are standing on. The Chileans may well say no one likes the Argentines. In the Falklands you may not find many people who like the Argentines either. Especially if they try to claim our fish!
It's not my UK joe. Let me guess which one of you pathetic morons you are. Give me some hints if I am getting warm. OK?
Nov 16th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you without doubt and by far (according to you) the most intelligent person to have ever stepped onto these threads?
Oh...the brits gobblers again!
Nov 16th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0once Argentina defaults, again, their aggression will diminish and commerce will continue to recover.
Nov 16th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thankfully NML is clearing the South Atlantic of pirate ships.
glugglglggl: gogle translation: idiots
Nov 16th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ sussie http://pocho.com/attention-latino-gov-jan-brewja-presents-the-self-deportation-station/
Nov 16th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 isolda
Nov 17th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0'no ones likes chilotes in Patagonia'
No one likes people from Chiloe?
You really are a poor excuse for a troll...
@37
Nov 17th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0try to reside in Patagonia, lol
and then state the facts
22 Patagonia is a matter between southamericans.
Nov 18th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Patagonia is of southamericans.
@23
Nov 18th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Skare yensere-ly Isolde are UK team screen names....
lol
39 malen (#) Your reply indicates a smokescreen to cover up your lack of historical knowledge.
Nov 19th, 2012 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 36 Isolde yensere-ly Skare
Nov 19th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think..... all what you keep saying about sussie is incorrect.
the uk team would like to be sussie and reside in CA,NV, and AZ
Nov 20th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Nov 24th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As people from the Falkland Islands moved to and settled in Patagonia before the genocidal pirates from Buenos Aires arrived, Patagonia is British by prior settlement therefore the fish are British fish. (From the Falklands to Patagonia-Mainwaring).
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