Leaders of British Overseas Territories, including Falkland Islands Member of Legislative Assembly Jan Cheek met with the British Prime Minister at Number 10 Downing Street on Wednesday afternoon. Read full article
Is sepoy of India?, Virray of Sudan? Does the British representative in Canada or South Africa? Of some Caribbean island ill-gotten? No. It is our dear chubby, the representative of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands , the representative of the rest of British Empire.
Nice photograph of the Falklands Fishery Protection Fleet!
Arrrr, where be them them argie seadogs!! heave too our we'll slit yer gizzards!!!! Fiften men on a dead RG's chest, yo hoo hoo and a bottle of rum, Arrr!!!!
Lets put some things clear about be catalogued as pirate by the world...
- Pirates are not cool stuff
- Pirates are not awesome
- Pirates is no funny
- Nobody mentally healthy envy or jeulosy nothing to be Pirate
Rather...
- be a Pirate in the eyes of civilized comunity is be a thef.....a regular criminal.
Thats the very real history of your country and just looking cameron,s photo and the representatives of the colonies....you could see all the places stolen.
So-far, well said, so when do most Argentinans pack their bags and return to Europe....we can't have any hypocrisy, can we? Argentinian for the native population...what's left of them, after several centuries of colonisation by the Spanish and others, including many Italians (now probably the biggest migrant ethnic group) and Germans, etc....oh sorry, it's one rule for Argentinians, and another for the rest.....business as usual....keep up your hypocrisy!!!
It's such a shame democracy frightens the South Americans, they look at this picture and simply cannot understand that the British overseas territories choose to be there and choose to remain part of the UK.
It is something they will never understand, so the comments are predictable.
@23 You´re wrong. We understand why the BOT want to remain part of the UK. When it comes to Malvinas, we find it invalid for reasons explained in multiple occasions.
@25
Do something about then you cowards. All the rhetoric just makes you a collection of armchair warriors. Unless you are prepared to back up your verbal diarhoea with action, it's invalid for reasons explained on multiple occasions.
Falkland Islands are and will always be a part of the UK.
@26 We´re doing something. You probably don´t understand due to a cultural misunderstanding. To do something in latinamerica does not equal making wars, like in British culture.
@28
What, other than recent terrorism, the only realistic thing you have achieved is getting a number of countries to say we should talk and our response to that is 'shove-it'! What else have you achieved apart from making yourselves look perpetually stupid?
@15 so_far
You're at least partially right. Examples of un-cool, un-awesome, un-funny pirates : David Jewett, Luis Vernet.
@18 Islas
Your question suggests that certain Spanish colonials such as yourself still haven't figured out the difference between plunder and commerce.
@28 Islas
And that little episode in 1982? That was what, exactly?
@29 So far, the continent where the islands are located at recognizes them as an integral part of the argentine territory occupied by a foreign power. This is not irrelevant data.
What the UK has achieved and maintained does not make you smarter. We hope to eventualy breake the status quo and put an end to the British perpetually occupation and exploitation of other countries resources at gunpoint.
@2 Surely you're used to it! mercosur, unasur and the argie government are full of them.
@3 No. Imperial family. What do they try to teach you at school these days? Never mind. They failed!
@5 The photograph depicts representatives of BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORIES, you numbskull. People quite capable of kicking your sorry little asses. Oh, we already did that, didn't we? Would you like to feel what it's like to have a British bayonet up your jacksie again?
@15 Aaaaah... 65 WTO disputes, 49 ICSID claims. Defending court cases on 3 continents. Some of your boats are missing. ...... diddums!
@16 There are no natives left in argieland. They have been assimilated. That's argie for eliminated.
@18 Have you tried whistlind? Or is that just the noise your president makes when she opens her legs?
@19 What pirates? Pirates usually make their victims walk the plank. But most of you are planks anyway!
@21 Unimportant hangers-on!
@25 And we've told you why you are stupid, ignorant thieving criminals on multiple occasions. But here's a promise for you. On the day that you die, the Falkland Islands will STILL be in the relationship that the Islanders wish with the UK!
@30 The 1982 episode was an attempt to put an end to an ilegal occupation and liberate a territory (on one side) and to maintain a colony in other countries territory (on the other side).
@32 Look yourself at the mirror before calling other peoples thieving criminals.
@35 Take a read to Signals of War by Lawrence Freedman and Virginia Gamba. You´ll learn the argentine dictatorship by reoccupying Malvinas did not mean to start a war but to force the UK into the negotiations. Stupid idea, we might agree. But war was not the objective.
And if you have a look at latinamerican international relations and compare it with those in Europe, you´ll see latinamerican States ar far more peaceful than Europeans.
@Islas Malvinas You see this is where your problem is ITS ARGENTINA and the way her governmant behaves towards otheres not Latin America.Hitler Kirchner is trying to make all her countrys problems Latin Americas problems she is a coward why does she not try a go it alone with her botox big mouth why involve the other countrys of South America for which some are now coming out and saying they are getting sick of Hitler Kirchner and her bombastic ways,even the argentine press and judicary are sick of her as stated below
Argentine Executive and Judiciary clash over Media Bill and intimidation of Judges
President Cristina Fernandez and the Argentine Judiciary branch are on a collision course after a federal court, despite all kinds of pressure and threats, decided on Thursday to extend an injunction referred to a controversial media bill which seems targeted to dismember the powerful Clarin Media Group, which has become to the eyes of the regime enemy number one
NOTE THE WORDS PRESSURE AND THREATS thats Hitler Kirchner all over
just like to point out mr Malvinas that it was actually Maluinas but I guess you idiot Arg can't get anything right. And if you don't believe me look at some old maps :) Viva Falkland Islands (British)
Well my friend for all your crying The Union Jack flys over Stanley and I can assure you nothing will be changing anytime soon unless ofcourse when you get rid of Hitler Cristina Kirchner you elect a far more forward thinking reasonable leader,which after looking back at the last 30 years you will probably still find that difficult.
So we're supposed to believe now that a military junta composed of the heads of the Army, Navy and Air Force sends an invasion force onto somebody else's islands and doesn't realise it's an act of war? What do they teach them at the Colegio Militar de la Nación?
In fact, this was just a smoke screen put up in an attempt to stop the US from intervening. This is quite clear in the accounts of Haig and Rentschler of the NSC in their attempts to negotiate a solution with Galtieri :
From the outset, I understood your aim to be a change in the status quo sufficient to justify your decision to use force. But I must now conclude that your aim is to guarantee unchallenged Argentine sovereignty, nothing less.
(Well worth a read. Interesting disquisition in there too on the state of the toilets in the Casa Rosada as a metaphor for the Argentine government).
As if that wasn't enough, this absolution fantasy (the other side of the coin from a conspiracy theory) is a violation of basic common sense. You had ample warning of the British response, ample time to get your forces off the islands before the Task Force got there, and a binding UN resolution to give you the encouragement as well as the domestic political cover necessary to do so.
You freely chose not to, but apparently lack the courage to recognise and accept the consequences.
@43 Nothing as changed the person running things today (Hitler Cristina) and the Junta are two of the same, given half the chance Hitler Cristina would lead her country down the same path DEFEAT
When did I say he was lying? You really should try to get away from this assumption that because somebody expresses an opinion contrary to your own, they must be lying. You'll never understand anything with that kind of attitude, heck, you might even end up irrationally clinging to a hopeless cause long after it's been thoroughly discredited everywhere else.
In this case, while it has indeed been claimed by various apologists that the junta intended a quick withdrawal of the bulk of its forces after installation of an Argentine governor, this was only because they didn't expect the Brits to fight back and didn't think they'd need 11,000 troops to pacify 2,000 islanders.
The idea that the junta planned to invade and then withdraw in order to negotiate is not only laughable from a military or political point of view, it is flatly contradicted by
a) what the junta actually did,
b) the accounts of actual participants, and notably the American delegation who called bullshit when they saw it
c) members of the junta itself (Amaya)
But of course, and as we all know, trivialities like actual events or evidence are not necessary to sustain the Malvinista cult of victimhood.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI've never had photos of so many FB friends on a Mercopress article before and Jan isn't one of them. LOL!
Dec 06th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very capable lady and nobody's fool is our MLA Cheek. God bless you.
What a bunch of brown nosers. Is the Ghana unofficial colony representative in the group?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice pic of the emperial family.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0just jealous ha ha. :)
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is sepoy of India?, Virray of Sudan? Does the British representative in Canada or South Africa? Of some Caribbean island ill-gotten? No. It is our dear chubby, the representative of the Malvinas Argentinas Islands , the representative of the rest of British Empire.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Islas Malware
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice pic of the emperial family.
We might say the same of that picture of the Mercosur Mafia Dons
you will never get the Falklands and being jealous of our people won't help you either :)
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0They took more pics of the meeting.....
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.flickr.com/photos/talklikeapirateday/2872459853/
WOW you seen pics of Mercosur?? look like a group of dead leg bandits talk about a corrupt lot
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 08 so-far
Dec 07th, 2012 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yaaaay pirates :) thanks for the link!. Anyone else think pirates are awesome lol
Jealousy is a curse, but a bellyache is worse.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0malvinistas-bellyachers
@8
Dec 07th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice photograph of the Falklands Fishery Protection Fleet!
Arrrr, where be them them argie seadogs!! heave too our we'll slit yer gizzards!!!! Fiften men on a dead RG's chest, yo hoo hoo and a bottle of rum, Arrr!!!!
Keep yer powder dry me hearties ARRR!!!!!!!
@8 - I wouldn't mind being held captive by the blonde pirate on the far right of the picture!
Dec 07th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Arrrrr!! ye spotted the cheeky little wench!
Dec 07th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lets put some things clear about be catalogued as pirate by the world...
Dec 07th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Pirates are not cool stuff
- Pirates are not awesome
- Pirates is no funny
- Nobody mentally healthy envy or jeulosy nothing to be Pirate
Rather...
- be a Pirate in the eyes of civilized comunity is be a thef.....a regular criminal.
Thats the very real history of your country and just looking cameron,s photo and the representatives of the colonies....you could see all the places stolen.
So-far, well said, so when do most Argentinans pack their bags and return to Europe....we can't have any hypocrisy, can we? Argentinian for the native population...what's left of them, after several centuries of colonisation by the Spanish and others, including many Italians (now probably the biggest migrant ethnic group) and Germans, etc....oh sorry, it's one rule for Argentinians, and another for the rest.....business as usual....keep up your hypocrisy!!!
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pirates are most definately cool, look at Jack SPARROW.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Hahaha There you go...
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 15 Exactly... Where do you think resources to sustain the high standard of living in the UK came from? From elswhere... maybe?
♪♫ British things, British things ♪♫ Afraid there´s hardly any ♪♫
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWedTbuAtR4
The pirates are united!!
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lovely word, United we and the yanks have it in our countries name, bet you didn't know that?
Dec 07th, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Scotland?
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://hastingspirateday.org.uk
It's such a shame democracy frightens the South Americans, they look at this picture and simply cannot understand that the British overseas territories choose to be there and choose to remain part of the UK.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is something they will never understand, so the comments are predictable.
@21
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time I looked, Scotland was still part of the union.
@23 You´re wrong. We understand why the BOT want to remain part of the UK. When it comes to Malvinas, we find it invalid for reasons explained in multiple occasions.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25
Dec 07th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do something about then you cowards. All the rhetoric just makes you a collection of armchair warriors. Unless you are prepared to back up your verbal diarhoea with action, it's invalid for reasons explained on multiple occasions.
Falkland Islands are and will always be a part of the UK.
Just like Scotland, unless the vote againts it. ah referendums, gotta luv em!
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26 We´re doing something. You probably don´t understand due to a cultural misunderstanding. To do something in latinamerica does not equal making wars, like in British culture.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What, other than recent terrorism, the only realistic thing you have achieved is getting a number of countries to say we should talk and our response to that is 'shove-it'! What else have you achieved apart from making yourselves look perpetually stupid?
@15 so_far
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're at least partially right. Examples of un-cool, un-awesome, un-funny pirates : David Jewett, Luis Vernet.
@18 Islas
Your question suggests that certain Spanish colonials such as yourself still haven't figured out the difference between plunder and commerce.
@28 Islas
And that little episode in 1982? That was what, exactly?
@29 So far, the continent where the islands are located at recognizes them as an integral part of the argentine territory occupied by a foreign power. This is not irrelevant data.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the UK has achieved and maintained does not make you smarter. We hope to eventualy breake the status quo and put an end to the British perpetually occupation and exploitation of other countries resources at gunpoint.
@2 Surely you're used to it! mercosur, unasur and the argie government are full of them.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 No. Imperial family. What do they try to teach you at school these days? Never mind. They failed!
@5 The photograph depicts representatives of BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORIES, you numbskull. People quite capable of kicking your sorry little asses. Oh, we already did that, didn't we? Would you like to feel what it's like to have a British bayonet up your jacksie again?
@15 Aaaaah... 65 WTO disputes, 49 ICSID claims. Defending court cases on 3 continents. Some of your boats are missing. ...... diddums!
@16 There are no natives left in argieland. They have been assimilated. That's argie for eliminated.
@18 Have you tried whistlind? Or is that just the noise your president makes when she opens her legs?
@19 What pirates? Pirates usually make their victims walk the plank. But most of you are planks anyway!
@21 Unimportant hangers-on!
@25 And we've told you why you are stupid, ignorant thieving criminals on multiple occasions. But here's a promise for you. On the day that you die, the Falkland Islands will STILL be in the relationship that the Islanders wish with the UK!
@31
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the native amer-Indians in the country YOU colonised at gun point share your sentiments. Bloody hypocrite !
@30 The 1982 episode was an attempt to put an end to an ilegal occupation and liberate a territory (on one side) and to maintain a colony in other countries territory (on the other side).
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Look yourself at the mirror before calling other peoples thieving criminals.
@34
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's funny because what you said in @28 was To do something in latinamerica does not equal making wars, like in British culture.
So an invasion by military force doesn't count as war in latin america?
Is this another one of those occasions where a word no longer maintains its original meaning in Latin America?
@35 Take a read to Signals of War by Lawrence Freedman and Virginia Gamba. You´ll learn the argentine dictatorship by reoccupying Malvinas did not mean to start a war but to force the UK into the negotiations. Stupid idea, we might agree. But war was not the objective.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if you have a look at latinamerican international relations and compare it with those in Europe, you´ll see latinamerican States ar far more peaceful than Europeans.
@Islas Malvinas You see this is where your problem is ITS ARGENTINA and the way her governmant behaves towards otheres not Latin America.Hitler Kirchner is trying to make all her countrys problems Latin Americas problems she is a coward why does she not try a go it alone with her botox big mouth why involve the other countrys of South America for which some are now coming out and saying they are getting sick of Hitler Kirchner and her bombastic ways,even the argentine press and judicary are sick of her as stated below
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine Executive and Judiciary clash over Media Bill and intimidation of Judges
President Cristina Fernandez and the Argentine Judiciary branch are on a collision course after a federal court, despite all kinds of pressure and threats, decided on Thursday to extend an injunction referred to a controversial media bill which seems targeted to dismember the powerful Clarin Media Group, which has become to the eyes of the regime enemy number one
NOTE THE WORDS PRESSURE AND THREATS thats Hitler Kirchner all over
just like to point out mr Malvinas that it was actually Maluinas but I guess you idiot Arg can't get anything right. And if you don't believe me look at some old maps :) Viva Falkland Islands (British)
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Islas Malvinas If you are such a peaceful country and a good neighbour why does the Uruguayan President A Latin American Country see you as this
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dealing with Argentina “one of the most painful problems” admits President Mujica
@39 I said we´re peaceful, not easy.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well my friend for all your crying The Union Jack flys over Stanley and I can assure you nothing will be changing anytime soon unless ofcourse when you get rid of Hitler Cristina Kirchner you elect a far more forward thinking reasonable leader,which after looking back at the last 30 years you will probably still find that difficult.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GOD BLESS THE FALKLAND ISLANDS
@36 Islas
Dec 07th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So we're supposed to believe now that a military junta composed of the heads of the Army, Navy and Air Force sends an invasion force onto somebody else's islands and doesn't realise it's an act of war? What do they teach them at the Colegio Militar de la Nación?
In fact, this was just a smoke screen put up in an attempt to stop the US from intervening. This is quite clear in the accounts of Haig and Rentschler of the NSC in their attempts to negotiate a solution with Galtieri :
From the outset, I understood your aim to be a change in the status quo sufficient to justify your decision to use force. But I must now conclude that your aim is to guarantee unchallenged Argentine sovereignty, nothing less.
http://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/114344
(Well worth a read. Interesting disquisition in there too on the state of the toilets in the Casa Rosada as a metaphor for the Argentine government).
As if that wasn't enough, this absolution fantasy (the other side of the coin from a conspiracy theory) is a violation of basic common sense. You had ample warning of the British response, ample time to get your forces off the islands before the Task Force got there, and a binding UN resolution to give you the encouragement as well as the domestic political cover necessary to do so.
You freely chose not to, but apparently lack the courage to recognise and accept the consequences.
@42 That´s what Lawrence Freedman (the Official British Historian of the Falklands Campaign) believes. Why would he lie?
Dec 07th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Nothing as changed the person running things today (Hitler Cristina) and the Junta are two of the same, given half the chance Hitler Cristina would lead her country down the same path DEFEAT
Dec 07th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 Yes Mr Andy65, they´re all the same, they´re all Hitler.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiMOKmp0uZc
@42 Islas
Dec 07th, 2012 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When did I say he was lying? You really should try to get away from this assumption that because somebody expresses an opinion contrary to your own, they must be lying. You'll never understand anything with that kind of attitude, heck, you might even end up irrationally clinging to a hopeless cause long after it's been thoroughly discredited everywhere else.
In this case, while it has indeed been claimed by various apologists that the junta intended a quick withdrawal of the bulk of its forces after installation of an Argentine governor, this was only because they didn't expect the Brits to fight back and didn't think they'd need 11,000 troops to pacify 2,000 islanders.
The idea that the junta planned to invade and then withdraw in order to negotiate is not only laughable from a military or political point of view, it is flatly contradicted by
a) what the junta actually did,
b) the accounts of actual participants, and notably the American delegation who called bullshit when they saw it
c) members of the junta itself (Amaya)
But of course, and as we all know, trivialities like actual events or evidence are not necessary to sustain the Malvinista cult of victimhood.
@45 those were the words used about Crissy yesterday after her bout of flatuance which affected the people of BA so much
Dec 08th, 2012 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiMOKmp0uZc
@3
Dec 08th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice pic of the emperial family.
No, there is no one there from the colonialist Empire of Argentina.
@48 Pete Bog,
Dec 08th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l like it,
Oh how quick!
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