Former Managing Director of the Falkland Island Development Corporation, Julian Morris, now Executive Officer of Economic Development on St Helena, has been caught up in a tight schedule of meetings during his visit over the past week, to encourage Falklands’ business investment in St Helena. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGood luck to all, everybody has the right to the progress they so wish without hinder or hate.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That’s what friends are for,, is it not.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 ... the exciting advent of air access to St Helena in 2016 .
Dec 11th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmmmm :-)
The start of a South Atlantic confereration?
Dec 11th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 I've been saying this for a while. You're better off being in some South Atlantic Union of States than being gang-raped by the economically and morally vacuous folks of South 'poor' America.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck with your Airport St Helena and good luck to Johnathan its been many years since he was an Egg.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Dont write us all off on the same generalization. Hot air is one thing but when Cristina wanted to cut the air link between Chile and MPA she was quietely told to get lost. It wil be to see how the voters on the FI of Chilean descent cast thier ballots in March
Dec 11th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Well, if it's any reflection of the rampant support that South America (especially Chile) has been giving Argentina recently in their plans to eradicate all life on the islands and replace it with La Campora agents, then they'll tick the 'I want Maximo's Fourth Reich' option.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still have hope, however, that they won't do that and sensibility will prevail.
Redpoll, what about a confederation of the Islands together with Uruguay and Paraguay, that would be an interesting counterweight to the renewed Mercosur!!!!!!!
Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 08 Shed-time
Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a Chilean politician says when standing at a press conference with Christina's hand up his nether regions and what the Chilean government actually does are two different things. We understand this and so do they.
The truth is that the Chileans have declined to cut our air link, have refused to close their ports to our boats and are keen to promote cultural and economic links with the islands.
@10 then may the actions remain speaking louder than words for a long time to come.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chileans have shown themselves to be utterly terrified of Kirchner and have openly supported her claim on the islands at every oppurtunity in recent years I doubt their ballot contribution will effect the outcome in March but the FIG need to monitor their South American migration carefully, they may end up losing their sovereignty by stealth if their not careful.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Be fair, Chile does have a very long land border with Argentina. If TMBoA does lose her final marble and decide to invade a neighbour at random then they don't have a 300 mile stretch of ocean between them and Maximo's motley...
Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Britworker
Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is not a chance of this happening but thanks all the same. It's something we keep an eye on constantly. Picture a big shower mixer tap. You can let a bit of hot in, a bit of cold in, a bit of both or just shut it off. Well our immigration control works like that and we have our hand firmly on the tap handle.
@14 Preemptive ethnic cleansing then is it JB? This comment, I am absolutely convinced, will come back to haunt you time and time again.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 015
Dec 11th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the biggest pile of garbage you've posted on here since yesterday. Name me one single country that doesn't set it's immigration policy to suit its own interests.
Immigration control is now preemptive ethnic cleansing....oh dear oh dear.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A new low on these boards. A comment so disastrously ridiculous it would take quite something to beat it.
@13 Chileans absolutely terrified of Argentina? Think its the other way round. Read some Chilean history before you spout off. The chilean military strategy in the event of a conflict is well known to Argentina
Dec 11th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What does it matter if there are Chilean descendants on the Falklands? Its thier country too and they will express thier wishes without fear or favour as in a true democracy
As for dove over dover, mebbe its seagull over Dover like the ones that crap right in your eye as his vision seems to be be badly asquint
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Dec 11th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The poor sod is clutching at straws on this one. So bitter, so jealous, so wrong about most things. He's absolutely sure about this one though.
@9 Nice idea Simon but completely impractical. As you know Uruguay has always had good relations with the Falklanders. In the midst of all the sound and fury earlier this year there was a twnty man trade delegation visiting Stanley to enhance trade relations. In November Radio Sarandi sent a correspondent Patricia to find out what Falklanders are like and to sound out thier views
Dec 11th, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor old Pepe the new president of Mercosur. He should drink less caipainha at lunch and stop his slurs on the marital fidelity of the wives of the opposition politicians. With that one he hit a new low and most Uruguayans of all parties are disgusted with his remarks
@19 Maintaining racial purity is not a policy anyone else but you would publicly declare with such evident pride You have identified yourself and your community as racist. You have no shame.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 021
Dec 11th, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear. I don't know what you're on but show me where I said anything about maintaining racial parity. Your problem (one of your problems) is that you keep trying to find what you think is behind our posts rather than just reading them.
You mental midget. Oops, now I'm discriminating on the grounds of intelligence.
21 You do like red herrings dont you?But I am not going to be gulled into that one which is off topic and an idea you have brought up on your own
Dec 11th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22 Abuse is no defence. You are condemned by your own words.
Dec 11th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This thread is completely crazy. It's illegal to discriminate against anyone on account of where they come from. If you meet the immigration criteria, you're in. Most recent immigrants seem to have come from Chile as far as I can tell.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 024 Doveoverdover
You need to chill. You have identified yourself as a gullible eejit; you're being played like a violin and you can't even see it.
Anyway, it's all lies. We do let Chileans in; we just make them take a lie detector test to make sure they really do hate the Argentines. Then we make sure they can sing both verses of the national anthem and answer a series of questions about Falkland Islands culture. There is even a Facebook page called 'Falkland Islands Citizenship test', set up so that they can practice. Have a look for it if you don't believe me.
@24 D Dover
Dec 12th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bravo !!
Encore !!
Nice performance, Dame Dover.
Just a bit of a walk-on, really, but children would find you quite terrifying!
Come back tomorrow evening too, please. Very entertaining :-D
@18
Dec 12th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0What? At every oppurtunity, at every forum in the last two years, Chile has wholeheartedly supported Argentinas claim on the Falkland Islands. Now they are either doing that because they are afraid of Argentina or they are two faced or they genuinely believe the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina. One thing is for sure, they are no friends to the UK or the Falkland Islanders and if I lived there I would be well and truly on my guard of them.
27 Britworker
Dec 12th, 2012 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are misunderstanding the situation. There is no love lost between the Chileans and the Argentines; in fact there is a very old and very deep enmity that goes way beyond all that public 'South American brotherhood' nonsense they do in public. There is no way that the Chileans would do us over to oblige Argentina. Not unless they were backed into a corner over something that really mattered, which is always possible. They aren't going to stand up to Argentina in a public forum, because the Argentines have the means to make things difficult for them.
But when it counts they make it quite clear that they aren't going to be pushed around. They were asked by Argentina to cut our flight and they said no. They were asked to stop our ships calling there and they said no.
Britiworker - you do know that there is a Chilean community living and working in the Falklands.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely you don't believe what politician say??
14 Joe Bloggs
Dec 12th, 2012 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Showing your true colors eh Joe?
Not wonder thatfigthing loves Andrew Rosindell friendship.
20 redpoll
Was Patricia's trip funded by thatfig like Gustavo?
At the end of the day there are 2 motivations that could persuade the Chilean residents of the Falklands to vote against the wishes of their fellow Islanders.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 01) They think they will be better off under an incompetent corrupt regime that has a mentally ill head of state.
2) They hate the guts of the Falkland Islanders they have chosen to travel hundreds of miles to live and work with.
If I was Argentina I wouldn't count on too many votes from the Chileans.
@25 Ah yes, but JB and his mates mark the papers and read the meter on the lie detector (really). Presumably he/they lower/raise the bar as required to keep the ethnic temperature comfortable.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unless of course it is all nonsense as you say and JB is actually a sneering windbag prone to public bouts of delusional blustering underpinned by highly suspect ethnic purity beliefs. I'd take your word for it since you obviously know him personally.
Its an astonishingly ludicrous argument.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Based on doveoverdovers premise, there should be no immigration controls, as that amounts to preemptive ethnic cleansing.
So, an invasion force should be allowed to walk-in and take a territory as soon as that invasion force is larger than the existing population.
Saddam Hussein needn't have invaded Kuwait after all...he could have just walked 4 million Iraqis over the border.
What was Hitler doing invading Belgium when he could have just waltzed 12 million Germans in.
No wonder Tibet and Taiwan should be nervous of China or probably Vietnam, North Korea and Laos should be worried.
India can just waltz a few million into Kashmir etc etc
Immigration controls around the world are designed to protect national security. the Falklands are no different.
@33 Well, in tibet the Han chinese already massively out-number the native tibetans. Unless the tibetans overtly express their love of having been peacefully reunified with the loving motherland, then they typically get 'harmonised'.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's democracy with chinese characteristics.
@33 Anyone who uses Hitler and Belgium to illustrate their argument is beyond reasoning with.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35 DoD,
Dec 12th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've completely lost it this time, señor.
ANY country has the right to say who will & who willnot emigrate/settle in their country without some pc do-gooding poltroon calling them racist.
What do you think the Falklands should do?
Throw open their doors, let 4000 malvinista Argentines in so that they can (out)vote to join Argentina?
You are deluded if thats what you think & you can scream racist as much as you like. Who cares what you think?
@36 Anyone how can be bothered to respond, I suppose.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 036 lsolde (#)
Dec 12th, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 12th, 2012 - 12:20 pm
Actually it isn't a bad idea to let in 4000 rabid malvinistas, we certainly would be better off without them, and you guys could repatriate them fairly quickly for not complying with Falklands law. After all there is no way a malvinista will live within any law!!!!!!
Dove,
Dec 12th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've inferred something Joe Bloggs has neither stated nor implied.
St Helenians are the second largest immigrant community. You do know the racial background of St Helenians, don't you?
@39 What is this, Quiz night?
Dec 12th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29
Dec 12th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Er, yes, I am we'll aware that there are Chileans living in the Falkland Islands. Just show me one, just one demonstration of open and public support the Chilean government have shown to the Falkland Islanders and their community in the last two years. Just one!!!
Most countries that have a choice limit immigration based on sustainability.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The immigration limits in the Falkland Islands are based not on race/ethnic grouping, but on availability of jobs and sustainability.
What would be the point in allowing unlimited immigration if the immigrants did not have jobs waiting for them.
39 dab14763
Dec 12th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why thank you but don't worry about Dove. He's sore with us Bennies for living the high life at his expense down here in the South Atlantic. He's particularly sore with me because I was amongst the first to detect a rather bad dead rodent smell coming off his posts.
@42 Ah yes, that it is how it should be. Sadly, reality is different and talent is regularly excluded based on ethnicity, so we are told by a self acknowledged authority.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 It's something we keep an eye on constantly. Picture a big shower mixer tap. You can let a bit of hot in, a bit of cold in, a bit of both or just shut it off. Well our immigration control works like that and we have our hand firmly on the tap handle.
On the other hand by an equally authoritative poster we are told:
It's illegal to discriminate against anyone on account of where they come from. If you meet the immigration criteria, you're in. Most recent immigrants seem to have come from Chile as far as I can tell.
You can decide for yourself who to believe. I've made my choice.
44 LOL
Dec 12th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then the equally authoritative poster went on to say: You need to chill. You have identified yourself as a gullible eejit; you're being played like a violin and you can't even see it.
Anyway, it's all lies. We do let Chileans in; we just make them take a lie detector test to make sure they really do hate the Argentines. Then we make sure they can sing both verses of the national anthem and answer a series of questions about Falkland Islands culture. There is even a Facebook page called 'Falkland Islands Citizenship test', set up so that they can practice. Have a look for it if you don't believe me.
So Dove, have you found out the racial background of St Helenians?
Dec 12th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lovely people in general, the Saints. As are the Chileans. I am proud to call several people from both places my friends. I also have a few pretty close Argentine friends. Not to mention a variety of people from various parts of the Caribbean, US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, France, Italy, Belgium and Spain.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said Dove. I made no reference to ethnic parity or whatever else you are claiming. You need to read with your eyes not your bitterness.
Dove said ethnic purity, not parity
Dec 12th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 048 dab14763
Dec 12th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I stand corrected.
@46 Not Quiz night, so it must be 20 Questions.
Dec 12th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Anyway, it's all lies. That's you she's writing about.
Just watched Jan Cheek on BBC Hardtalk. No rants unlike her BA counterpart. Just straight truthful replies. Well done Jan
Dec 13th, 2012 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, was Patricia's trip funded like Gustavo's?
Dec 13th, 2012 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope she didn't have problems with Joe's shower mixer tap handle.
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