The British Government reaffirmed its commitment to trilateral dialogue, despite claims from Spain that London and Madrid would discuss the waters row on bilateral terms leaving Gibraltar aside. A spokesman for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office said trilateral dialogue was the only acceptable mechanism for “formal” talks about Gibraltar. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSpain has always been one of the most morally challenged nations in the West. It is a congenital defender of statist abuses. To hell with it.
Dec 13th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melilla
Dec 13th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Morocco had previously called for negotiations on the future of Melilla, Ceuta and a number of nearby Mediterranean islands. However, the majority of the city's population are ethnic Spaniards, who do not wish to join Morocco.[2] Also, the Instituto Opina conducted a poll that found that 88% of mainland Spaniards consider the two cities to be Spanish.[3]
There are three reasons why Spain assumes that the right of self determination applies to their people but not to the British and the Gilbraltarians. The first is racial. They genuinely think that they are superior. The second is that Spain is in a far worse economic position than the UK and they desperately need a distraction. Third is that the UK has reduced the size of her military too much. A T45, an Astute and a Typhoon cannot be in two places at once so the deterrent effect of the UK armed forces has been reduced even when the capabilities have improved. They think we are weak.
It is a perfect storm and the EU are stirring it by siding with Spain about Gibraltar waters.
The UK has no choice but to have a permanent naval presence in Gibraltar waters from now on and every single incursion needs to be met. The question is though. Where do we find the assets?
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Dec 13th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that this is not a permanent naval presence. Once she leaves the Spanish will be playing silly buggers again.
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Dec 13th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical Hispanic, a conquistadorial attitude toward the small nations , and that is what Gibraltar and The Falkland Islands are, small nations. Spain, Argentina and that `twonk` aussie sunshine are really at the bottom of the barrel.
Dec 13th, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@%
Dec 13th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's OK, no meeting then, sound familiar?
* BRUCEY BABY!! small nations” since when are they nations??!!
Dec 13th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0more like colonies..Brucey babyyyyyy!!
aussie sunshine it is actually not a colony it is an over seas territory gibraltar has more autonomy than any area of spain more employment and a better standard of living, the waters are british according to the convention of the sea 1982 and spain signed the treaty, the treaty of utreach is invalid due to the fact it has being superceded in numerous occations and does not adhere to human rights of the 21st century. I understand that you are bored because most probably you are unemployed like the 6 million other spaniards the problem is that if u do not come to terms with reality and just post what you wish was the truth then you will never get anywhere in life thats why gibraltar has signed internation treaties, is joining uefa, has internation hocky and swimming teams recognisde as a diffrent jurisdiction to that of uk even though it is still part of it.
Dec 13th, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0spain does not want gibraltar to have a voice to bad all that gibraltar has to do is talk to all the other countries in the wolrd as it has being doing for the past 6 years why should gibraltar care that spain does not recognise it when usa china, germany and all the importnat countries do same applies to argentina and the falklands.
@2 We find the resources by ensuring that royalties and taxes raised from the exploitation of natural resources in UK EEZs around the world come to the UK Treasury.
Dec 13th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is this 'WE' kimosabe?
Dec 13th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll leave that for @2 to answer.
Dec 13th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Spain was given control of Gibraltar they would mess it up in under 5 years ..... 43 localaties in Andalucia and 36 being investigated for corruption
Dec 14th, 2012 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0*13 Better to have it in spanish corruption than Brit corruption..
Dec 14th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The colonial government of Gibraltar and their overlords are wasting their breath in seeking tripartite discussions - and they know it too. Spain has made it perfectly clear that it will only enter into discussions with the UK over sovereignty issues involving Gibraltar - as the UK is the administering State.
Dec 17th, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is about time that the UK stops its well known obfuscations and honours its commitments under the Brussels Process on the decolonisation of Gibraltar.
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