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Victory for Cristina Fernandez: Federal Judge declares constitutional Media Law

Saturday, December 15th 2012 - 06:05 UTC
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Argentine Federal Judge Horacio Alfonso declared that articles 45 and 161 of the controversial 2009 Media Law are “constitutional,” and ordered the injunction that left the application of the law in suspense to be lifted immediately. Read full article

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  • Gordo1

    How much did he pocket from Cristina?

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Not necessarily. There was also a clear threat of impeachment. When you see how they make laws you realise the rest of their behaviour is no surprise.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tabutos

    corruption at its finest well done Argentina one more step on your road to fascism controlling of media box is ticked

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    Free press strangled ........Tick

    Economy in a downward spiral....Tick

    Country the laughing stock of the whole world.......Tick

    Out of control corruption...........................Tick

    Families driven into poverty......................Tick

    What else is there left on Ol' Turkey Neck's / KFC / TMBOA / The Harpy's to do list?

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    All countries make news blackout...

    This law is very normal.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    This law is very normal? Where - in Ecuador and Argentina?

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    when it smells and looks like it does, you call it what it is.......
    Dictatorship plain and simple, all opposition media irradicated or re-educated :)

    Well done argentina, you have just re-entered your darkest of days!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ptolemy

    @5
    Doesn't matter, soon there will be a blackout of all news in Argentina,..except for GOVERNMENT news.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mendoza Canadian

    Yes...now they have Boxeo para todos...another tax payer funded outlet for her progaganda machine...next will be Nestor para todos...

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    7#piratel
    Where did you get your concept of dictatorship from.The back of a box of Cheerios I'd guess.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @10 do you prefer tyrant? no we will stay with dictator....
    Crustina:(Dictatoress)
    “a leader that and/or ”ABUSES“ an extraordinary amount of personal power,especially the power to make laws without effective restraint by a legislative assembly” , does that concept sound familiar?

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Well, come on, folks. Time to do some research and get the facts right. Let's make a list of all the countries that have laws similar to argielands “Media Law”. I'll start. Actually, it'll be quicker to list the countries that don't. Andorra. Australia. Austria. Bahamas. Barbados. Belgium. Belize. Canada. Cape Verde. Costa Rica. Czech Republic. Denmark. Dominica. Estonia. Finland. Germany. Ghana. Grenada. Hungary. Iceland. Ireland. Jamaica. Japan. Kiribati. Latvia. Liechtenstein. Lithuania. Luxembourg. Mali. Malta. Marshall Islands. Micronesia. Monaco. Nauru. Netherlands. New Zealand. Norway. Palau. Poland. Saint Kitts & Nevis. Saint Lucia. Saint Vincent & the Grenadines. San Morino. Sao Tome & Principe. Solomon Islands. Sweden. Switzerland. Trinidad & Tobago. Tuvalu. United Kingdom. United States. Vanuatu.
    Who would have thought there were so few free places? And so many that aren't free? This information has been taken from Freedom House free press ratings and Reporters Without Borders. Argieland is, obviously, not shown because it's the reason for the list.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But the argies TRUST their government.

    That is the problem.

    If TMBOA says it is good for them, then that must be the truth, she wouldn't LIE to them, would she. Aaaa. I see the problem now!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (9) Mendoza Canadian

    I wonder.......
    What's keeping you in Argentina?
    Do you need any help to “Break Free”?
    Are you being kept prisoner by someone or something?

    You remind me of some Toronto Muslims.....
    Always whining about the “Hardship” of having to live door to door with Dirty, Infidel Canadians, always drunk, gloating in pigmeat, whoring around and not respecting the Law of God.....

    Why don't you go back home to them?
    You both share a great intolerance for your Guest Countries.......

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • eteega

    Chrissy was elected by the Peronistas, the party of the Peons...a democratic version of communism. Get elected by the peons and then pe-on them.
    Socialism worldwide is based on a version of Orwell's Animal Farm...have a vote at regular intervals to elect a new Dictator...the elected party members stuff their pockets and live like the pigs whilst the rest of the socialist peons live in hope at a lower level

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    16000 thousand homeless in the street of Buenos Aires!
    The industry of missery , Bolivarian countries!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You all seem to be struggling to anything of worth.It must be the result of your research into press freedom.The media moguls do have your interests at heart.Let them continue to do your thinking for you,as they have usually done.
    Dictator or tyrant?Are they the same thing pirate l.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ptolemy

    @15
    Peronism is not “a democratic version of communism.” But,.. CFK does pursue Marxist policies while pretending to be a Peronist.
    @17
    Just curious, who is the next target /scapegoat for CFK,..La Nacion?

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    well thats right stink living in Canada yourself your in a great position to comment aren't you? You really are fickle on here, talking about other countries whilst you sit in Canada lording it up, and taking the high moral ground whilst 16000 of your countrymen/women live on the streets of BA

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    @18 exactly. Sadly the witch hunts wont stop, they ll only get more intense especially as the -government- feels its position becoming more and more vulnerable through failing economy and increasing social problems.

    What a shame for the people and a real waste. At best this -model- has set Argentina back 20 years. 30 years after the fall of Galtieri and the dictatorship makes it even more depressing. At some point Argentines have to ditch nationalism and that includes Clarin/LA Nacion readers and channel 13 viewers. Nationalism is the root of the problem.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    A rare victory for this administration, but undoubtedly another defeat for Argentina.

    Many countries restrict how much of their press can be controlled by any one organisation, and for very good reasons. As we have found out in Britain with press barons and politicians.

    In this case the reasons seem to have more to do with silencing an opposition voice, than maintaining a free and balanced media.

    Or to put it another way, this would not have happened if Clarin had supported the CFK administration. What is good and right for Argentina is whatever the government wants it to be at the time, not the other way round as it should be.

    Next it’s the Judiciary, they have to be made to “tow the party line”. And so it goes on. And this is only going one way.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    Awe man! She got another botox injection, “special lipstick” and broke out the old dusty diaphragm again. I guess whatever it takes for her to get what she wants out of these guys. That combined with blackmail and possibly a Christmas bonus to go with that.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Hello all:

    Exactly as predicted a few days ago, the injuntion put in place and Judge Alfonso's descision that the articles 45 and 161 are constitutional, no surprise.

    Now Clarín Group will appeal, meanwhile the injuntion will stay in place until the appeal is decided in favour of the government. When that finally happens in about a year, Clarín Group will have a year to divest itself of the excess licences. This will bring them to 2015 and the general elections.

    So CFK will greet this descision with cheers of victory over the evil Clarín, but actually nothing will change, unless CFK gets down to governing the country in the way the people want: Deal with inflation, deal with insecurity, deal with corruption, deal with falling employment, deal with growing poverty, deal with failing infrastructure, deal with lack of housing, and so it goes....

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    You'd have to be a saint to not find this a little suspicious.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    -Or to put it another way, this would not have happened if Clarin had supported the CFK administration-

    I challenge any pro CFKers to deny that?!

    In principle its not a bad idea that there is an anti media monopoly law. But this persecution of Clarin is wrong on so many levels - Personal vendetta, Gross hypocrisy and abuse of power and tax payers money (state media propaganda, futol para todos..),, far more important social economic issues to deal with, etc etc.

    CFK won (fairly or not) a historic election despite Clarin's presence. Clarin is only a threat now (to a degree) because the government is doing so badly.

    After Clarin who next? And after that? And everytime they succeed in shutting down the channels of opposition they become more emboldened...

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Yesterday
    “Victory for Cristina Fernandez: Federal Judge declares constitutional Media Law”

    Today
    Victory for Cristina Fernandez: International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea: The “ARA Libertad” Case (Argentina v. Ghana)

    Tomorow
    Victory for Cristina Fernandez: Malvinas.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @26
    And then you woke up!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @17 “Dictator or tyrant?Are they the same thing pirate l.”, you dont know ??

    Crustina is a dictator,
    saddam was a tyrant,
    Gaddafi was a tyrant,
    Asad is a tyrant,
    mugabe is a tyrant,

    a tyrant will kill/torture/harm its people, a dictator is a watered down version.

    however both will cheat its people out of a free life, use propaganda to deflect harmful issues , silence any opposition voice, cling to power by all means, and self-serve!!!

    there is a fine line between Dictator and Tyrant and Crustinas flipant use of Violence is bordering tyranny in Argentina, I sh*t you not!

    Im sure if you lived under full blown tyranny you would know about it, so you will have to make do with full blown dictatorship for now. :)

    thats is the difference!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #28 we Argentine love CFK she was elected by all Argentine civilians unlike the governments in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya or the terrotists in Syria, but you support those governments don't you? if you don't like CFK you are welcome to go and support terrorists in Syria as you all do, just keep away from referring to the Argentine government when you are really talking about your own government, we have very little tolerance for hypocrites in Argentina, not everyone is as stupid as you think.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Nobody is as stupid as pirate l thinks,we're too scared to say what he thinks we should say.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Ha 74% and the“ producers”(People that work foor a lioving) do not like Kretina!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @29 too close to the truth eh??? lol

    who are you to say who i support?
    oh I see, you are telling me who i support? do I get a choice??

    if i want to refer to the argentine government....guess what? I will !!!! and by the bucket load and theres sh*t you can do but take every inch of it :))))

    As for the middle east, not interested and slightly off topic, you may have noticed!

    “we have very little tolerance for hypocrites in Argentina”
    so what? got something you want to share?, come to think about it who the f*ck do you speak for ??? or are you talking out your intolerable a55wipe :)))

    “not everyone is as stupid as you think”,
    how do you know what i think, again you dont know what im thinking,
    that would make you stupid to think you can kn0w what others are thinking,
    and I would never think you were stupid, ill-educated yes, stupid no, my dog is stupid but then again he is a dog, he has an excuse for his short comings :)

    anything else?

    @30 wtf, that made lots of sense, try pulling your head out your a55 and try again.

    SELF-DETERMINATION, Think on that!

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Pirate L did you say something.
    I didn't hear come out of the room your in.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    I must say i was vey hapy when i heard about judge alfonso's decision on the news. But the dispute hasn't finished yet, clarin said it will appeal next monday, so, the government should use the per saltum instance, in order to send the case to the suprem court, which is the most prestigious legal institution that we have in the country. On the other hand, what are really pathetic, are the contradictions of some you, due to the same people who criticise all the time the soposed corruption cases of c. f. k's gov., are the same people who celebrated the last injuction that clarin could get, thanks to it's entails with the civil and commercal court, thats shows how hipocrite those people are.

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conorworld

    There is no doubt that a country benefits from anti0trust laws that prevent one body from having a monopoly. However it is the political intent involved in this that is extremely dubious. 5 years ago Nestor helped create the monopoly and was quite happy to let it stay that way until Clarin decided to criticize the government. That is one heck of U turn. You can't blame Clarin for taking advantage of the gift it got from Nestor. The Media Law is all smokes and mirrors for a vendetta.

    Furthermore one must ask what will happen with the divested licenses. Will they be given to media entities cosy to the government? What we will have is the transfer from one monopoly to another, with the administration taking more control. That is dangerous. That is why I do not support what is going on

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @29
    “she was elected by all Argentine civilians ”
    54% now =100%?
    Interesting interpretation of mathematics.......

    Dec 15th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    My, more CFK Successes. Boy, this is too much for me. Bring, it on!!!

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    36 Pete Bog

    But even the mythical 54% was never qualified correctly by the electoral invigilator.

    It was 54% aggregated from ‘like minded bodies’ who WOULD have voted for her AND only 54% of those who actually bothered to go and vote. In other words the Peronista vote that had declared their support for TMBOA but voted for the people from their own party.

    Using the governments own figures for ALL registered voters the vote for her was 32.6%, so 67.4% either voted against her or did not vote.

    So, if you don’t mind I will restate your post with the correct figures:

    “she was elected by all Argentine civilians ”
    32.6% now =100%?

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @38
    Chris I stand corrected, it appears my mathmatics are as accurate as an Argentine's which means I need to bone up a bit.....
    So it seeems 67.4% of Argentines
    are not classified as Argentine civilians by @29 Mr my-hero-is-the- pirate-Jewett.
    Interesting.
    @29
    “we have very little tolerance for hypocrites in Argentina,”

    Really?
    What about Putrid Jelly?
    CFK?
    Timmidman (I think I'm a Wallace and Gromit plasticine model)?
    Lorenzino?
    Alicia Castro?
    Maximo the performing Elephant Seal?
    If you've so little tolerance for these muppets why are they not on the next C-130 one way trip to the South Atlantic?
    Are your C-130s still serviceable by the way?

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @33 you clearly still have your head up your own a55 if you cant understand what i said, now go back to sleep little doggy.

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Pirate love.
    What does this mean-“not everyone is as stupid as you think”,
    how do you know what i think, again you dont know what im thinking,
    that would make you stupid to think you can kn0w what others are thinking,
    and I would never think you were stupid, ill-educated yes, stupid no, my dog is stupid but then again he is a dog, he has an excuse for his short comings :)
    Is it just supposed to be a clever remark,worthy of a proud :) , or is it supposed to make sense.Can you stop playing with you dog and reply.You can then get back to playing with you dog.Is it a brown dog?

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @41
    clever remark? no why, dont tell me, you find it “clever”?
    I can give you more sentences with “Dog” in them if you find them educating, or what about “Cat”, dont panic, I know its different, but if you learn a new word every day, you can class yourself as “clever”, hows that?
    here we go....
    “The.....CAT....sat...on...the....mat”, there wasnt that hard was it “clever” doggy.

    next lesson is “RED” followed by “CARD”.

    little tip- read comments slowly and you will understand them, try reading it again, little doggy. :)))

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You are capable of some useless trash pirate.Have you been practising.

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    theres gratitude for you! try and educate the backward folk and do the charitable thing, and all they can do is throw insults.

    however, it still does not change the fact that argentina is run by an ever increasing dictatorship.

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    cpi.transparency.org/

    gives a clue regarding Argentina's current standing in the World.

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @45 well well, argentina leaning more towards north korea & Co at the foot of the transparency table, who would have guessed that? further proof of argentinas growing dictatorship ambitions, if it was needed.
    great link, Bob!

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I just love the leader to this article “Victory for Cristina Fernandez: Federal Judge declares constitutional Media Law” it should have gone on to tell the real truth of the matter “and a fatal blow for democracy and the rule of law”.

    Shocking, despicable person TMBOA.

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Corruption index are not a valid tool.Check it out.
    Is it a brown dog pirate?

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @48
    “Corruption index are not a valid tool” is that because the argentine government cannot influence or change it, causing it loses its validity? :)
    dont tell me you see INDEC as a valid tool?? just a wild guess.

    what colour would you like the dog to be, it clearly arouses you?

    Dec 16th, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Good news =) Rock on Cristina =)

    Dec 24th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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