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Argentine government begins process to dismember Clarin media group
Argentina's government Monday began the process of auctioning off media licenses and related assets held by the media conglomerate Grupo Clarin SA. The move, which government officials say should take about 100 business days to complete, comes after a lower court judge ruled Friday that a three-year-old media law requiring Clarin to be dismantled is constitutional. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy bother waiting for the law to decide, when you can just ignore the courts and do everything by presidential decree?
Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The Argentinian Way: Viveza Criolla:” Juan Peron (1967) foreword by Adolf Hitler
Don't cry Argentina.....look on the bright side. Without an independent media.....there will be no more homeless, no more super inflation, no more decling trade surpluses, no more strikes, they will be only your ill concieved perceptions. The news will be all good and life in Emerald City will be grand as the dictator reigns over a lifetime rule of her subjects.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Good point. No news is good news.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Goebbels 2 / Independent Press 0
Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0from nazi homeland: we did that about 70 years ago. and it took 12 years to wipe us out.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0poor argentines with these crooks, bastards, and blackmailers as a so called government!!
another step towards complete dictatorship with a growing lack of transparency.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dark days ahead Argentina....when in the future you ask yourselves “where did it all go wrong”, remember this day!
She just isn't trying hard enough.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every despot leader usually has their photos 20 feet tall and slapped on every street corner. Unless she plans to be more subtle and just have her face on the front page of every paper, every day, with a headline of what the brave fearless leader did today.
eg, from the bbc about North Korea and it's hopelessly out of control sattelite.
''The rocket was celebrated extravagantly in North Korea, with a mass rally held in the capital, Pyongyang.
State media credited the country's new leader, Kim Jong-un, with the success, praising his “endless loyalty, bravery and wisdom”.
Now the Argentine version
The rocket was celebrated extravagantly in Buenos Aires, with a mass rally held.
Other media also credited Argentina's leader, Mad bitch botox, with the success, praising her “endless loyalty, bravery and wisdom”.
Wait till she publishes her “Little Black Book” containing the thoughts of Chairman Christina! They'll all be wearing light blue boiler suits next.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been predicting the massive statues of Maximo and marching to Nestoranity hymns for a while now. I'm pretty sure they're close to implementing it.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ideally, the rest of the Argentine media/press could show solidarity with Clarion by not bidding for the licenses, but that aint going to happen.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 I think you and I both know that those licenses will be sold, at cost, to the friends of the Standing Committee of the People's Democratic Republic of Argentina.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd expect La Campora News 24 to get a few of them.
Not so sure who would buy them, but damned sure where the money will go!
Dec 18th, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suppose Argentina will be a happier country if the truth is not reported as CFKs nextplan to emulate Adolf Hitler succeeds.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The trouble is , the fact that the RG press reported the sinking of Invincible about 3 (?) times in 1982 didn't really help as the ship didn't actually sink (or was it that we salvaged her three timesextremmely quickly)?
But no doubt it made the Argies feel good, like the fact they were told they were winning the FI war two days before their forces surrendered.
Stand by for more good news from Argentina.
I particularly liked the actual (Cartoon) combat footage of that engagement, when it appeared on Youtube. What a journalistic scoop, actual (Cartoon) footage of the true events. Picture never lies!!!!!!
Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LMFHO.
@14 I like the soundtrack to said 'footage' where you can clearly hear the sound of fingernails dragging down the walls while the argentines cling to the final bit of dignity they have left... then as the film ends you feel them give up and let go.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every Argentinian is entitled to an opinin. When KFC wants to here it. “She'll tell them it!”
Dec 18th, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are welcome to my ax and saw Mr. Sabbatella.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One by one the lights go out in Argentina.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a linear relation between Argentinas achievements and some peoples frustrations on these threads. I might disagree with a lot Argentina presents, but this blind-folded negativity is just silly and little constructive.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19
Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I might disagree with a lot Argentina presents” Like when was the last time?
And what subject was it?
I am not holding my breath for the reply.
Regional protectionism, refusal to pay bond holders, neglection of treaties with neighbouring countries, to name a few.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still, the solution isn't silly remarks about hair-styles or constant bashing of their country. Some folks here seem to hare Argentina regardless of what she does. Just have a look at the thread were it says Argentina almost emptied her treasure reserves in order to pay her debts. No “finally” or “well done”.
21 Stevie
Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well written sir,theres a lot to like about Argentina.
by the way has the postion with the Clarin group changed again?further appeal I cant keep up,oh to be lawyer in Argentina!
I do not know, but what I do know is that monopoly on media is a bad thing, regardless of who you are and what you represent. From what I've read, Clarin owns quite a large majority of the media sources in Argentina. For those who will say I'm biased, criticism also goes for Chavez Telesur for trying to tell people what to read and think.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think media should be free and diverse, and neither of them fulfill those criterias, but then again, not many medias does.
I agree with you though, being a lawyer in Argentina must be some rollercoster expeeience
@21 look again :D at the top, good job! from me.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pardon my ignorance, Ayayay, but I seem to fail to understand what you are referring to.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't really like monopolies besides they are not legal anywhere else on earth why would we want it in Argentina, this is the same media that kept quiet during the military regime in the 70's, justice comes to all who break it sooner or later. Good job CFK keep up the good work.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0monopolies exist everywhere; just look at Google for starters.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The issue here is why she suddenly felt the need to start a witch-hunt over Clarin, not as to whether or not Clarin has/had a monopoly.
silly mullet-strokers are silly.
#27 as an Argentine I invite you to buy it, and take clarin to your country if you like them that much, we don't like monopolies in Argentina and if you support them, put your money where your mouth is and buy it to take it home, I think thanks to CFK you can now buy a piece of your so loved propaganda machine at a fire sale prices. SOLD! I hear the UK or US embassy might be next if you keep up the love you hold for us. LOL excellent time to be in Argentina.
Dec 18th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'@Pirat-Hunter Greace ballwe this is why you are so stupid when you say
Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0we don't like monopolies in Argentina
Your dear leader SS HITLER CRISTINA is one big monopolly trying to control everything you stupid son of a rattle snake
#28 you are right piss hole hunter....great time to be in argentina, so do Canada a favor and rid them of your stink and move to argentina. Has DHS knocked on your door yet about your terrorist threats?
Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0These Mullet-strokers simply cannot understand that they're being led on a merry little dance about monopolies.
Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I pity the fools.
Foolish, easily led and unthinking seems to be a national characteristic for Peronistas.
Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0They deserve TMBOA.
The Pied Piper of Hameln had the rats walked of the cliffs......TMBOA has the Argentines swimming into the Rio de la Plata
Dec 19th, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just to give an idea of the situation among the media groups in Argentina:
Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) The real monopoly among the media groups is the government plus it crony capitalists who have bought up media companies, these make up aproximately 80% of media coverage.
2) The 20% left over is divided among Clarín Group+La Nación+Perfil+other independent media companies.
I repeat what I've said in other threads; if Clarín Group has such incredible power over the hearts and minds of the Argentine voters, how on earth did CFK get such a landslide result in the general elections last year?????????
@34 so KFC having influence over 80% of the media isn't a monopoly to the la campora terroristas that frequent this board?
Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mullet-strokers are indeed quite remarkable in their nonsense.
@34 Simon68
Dec 19th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bribes?
LOLs
@ 34 Simon68
Dec 19th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nicely put, and as usual, the usual suspects on here will never answer your observations. They prefer the smoke and mirror approach.
Where is Nostroll by the way? He said he would be on here 24/7. Mind you, as his mind is empty of original thought except the thesaurus he swallowed recently, I don't mind that he is not.
and I ask, following the judgment, has the 'Government' the right to decide which bits it wants and to auction off these selectively to its supporters?
Dec 19th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I remember the first acts of the German nazi government were to 'sell' the jewish-owned companies to party members.
38... It defiantly is following the German blueprint for control and manipulation of the press, and brainwashing the population.
Dec 19th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but the good thing is CFK is bound to ?&@k it up !!
@39 So, given that she's basically a reincarnation of Hitler...
Dec 19th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hector Timmerman is an american citizen and said to be very close to the american jewry of NYC, and has some influence. Paul Singer, the head of NML capital, is an important and influential member of the NYC jewry.
So what happens at their Channukah parties when Paul Singer is asking Hector why, as an american, he's basically a member of a neo-nazi state.
Or is there something we're all missing here?
40... Think the general point is that the state is controlling / breaking up the independent media, so as to control the news and promote government propaganda. Other worrying signs are the brainwashing of children at school with lies regarding the Falklands. so no would not say she is the next hitler, but think she is edging towards a dictatorship. it was a comparison which is valid because the nazis did brainwash from an early age and control the media.
Dec 19th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 I'm suggesting that as an american citizen who can just skip off elsewhere at the required time, timmerman is actually a proponent of machiavellianism. He understands that driving piss-poor diplomacy and a borderline nazi state will ultimately have outcomes that will be of benefits to himself and those around him. Paul Singer similarly drives countries to the wall in order to generate value.
Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's all I'm suggesting, as nothing else makes any sense.
Simon, that's just numbers you've taken out of thin air, care to provide some sources other than the echoes heard in here?
Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:39 am - Link - Report abuse 043 Stevie (#)
Dec 20th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 20th, 2012 - 01:39 am
Sorry, I've been trying to find the article, but no luck so far!!
It was an op-ed piece in the “Río Negro”, but I don't remember the date or author.
It is a fairly true estimate of the actual distribution of the media at this time if you add up all the licences held by: The government, C. López, Grupo Uno, Spollski, etc. and then those held by Clarín Group, La Nación, Perfil, etc., it will give you about 80% and 20% respectiviely.
@43 Stevie
Dec 20th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you are doing exactly what you claim Simon68 is doing: care to validate your 'imaginary' numbers?
Good start, hope and expect they'll keep it up...
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