US waiting for Venezuela situation to ‘clear up’; insists constitution must be complied

Tuesday, January 15th 2013 - 06:53 UTC

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United States and other Latinamerican countries wish the situation in Venezuela ‘clears up’, said Roberta S. Jacobson Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, currently in Spain as part of a visit that also includes the UK and Belgium. Read full article

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rylang23
Me thinks that Ms. Jacobson might better spend her time looking into the lapse of regard for the US constitution and elections. The Venezuelans are doing just fine, thank you.
Jan 15th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Captain Poppy
Me thinks ...you don't.

Dictocracy....not democracy=venezuela
Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Anglotino
@1 Rylang23

Another unfounded accusation. Must be hard to defend Venezuela when all you can do is make false accusations against the US. I remember your last post which I thoroughly demolished and left you quite literally speechless.

Anyone interested can have a look:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/01/09/us-says-chavez-succession-is-an-issue-for-venezuelans-to-decide-and-must-include-all-voices

So please quote contraventions of the US constitution by the US while I talk about the current lapse in Venezuela.

Venezuela is currently without a president. Truly this is a case of an emperor with no clothes.

According to Artice 231 of the Venezuelan constitution implemented by none other than Chavez:
“The candidate elected shall take office as President of the Republic on January 10 of the first year of his constitutional term, by taking an oath before the National Assembly. If for any supervening reason, the person elected President of the Republic cannot be sworn in before the National Assembly, he shall take the oath of office before the Supreme Tribunal of Justice”

Chavez did not take his oath on January 10th before either the National Assembly or the Supreme Court ergo he is not president.

As all appointed positions became vacant on that date, Maduro is no longer Vice President as his position expired.

According to Article 233 a new election must be held within 30 days. Some are arguing that due to Article 234 the Vice President can rule in a President's place for 180 days. However even this has issues as it will depend on whether Chavez is permanently incapacitated or not.

The fact that Chavez has not even recorded a voice message or had a photo taken would be proof enough if incapacitation.

Venezuela has had a bloodless coup and you keep trying to deflect to the US.

Typical.
Jan 15th, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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yankeeboy
It is only bloodless so far give it a little bit to stew.
Jan 15th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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THEMan
@3 Anglotino
I just read your post which you described as the demolition of the previous poster. In no way did you thoroughly demolish him, and to even think this just shows your arrogance.
As for contraventions, I would say the assaults on protestors by the police during the Occupy Protests as one (video evidence on Youtube, Search it). I can have someone list a good few dozen instances where the US Constitution has been violated by the US, but I'm not really going to get back into wasting much time on this site like I did before.
Jan 15th, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Condorito
@1
Jacobson is Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs, so this is exactly the kind of situation she should be occupied with.
Out of curiosity, do you feel the same about Brazilian officials who have made similar noises to Jacobson? Or is it only a problem when it is the US?
@5
Whether Anglotino is arrogant or not, doesn't really matter, his analysis is correct: Venezuela is in limbo and Maduro has no constitutional mandate to govern.

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More importantly: does anyone know if Jacobson is any relation to Nestor K, she has that flat-fish look about her.
Jan 16th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pirat-Hunter
#2, #3, #4, #6, I support Chavez 100% and people here should remember that Chavez was democratically elected, I invite everyone to fix Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq before coming to Latin americans to dictate english BS, fix your own country before dictating to others thank you. Long live President Chavez and CFK. Down with US and UK dictatorship, down with land theft, murder, political assassinations and natural resources theft. We all know what the English man wish for Latin America is, we learn it in Argentina in 1807, and we see it in Mexico US borders every day, I invite Venezuelans to ignore the english terrorists and move forward with Chavez in building an even greater democratic Venezuela.
Jan 16th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Condorito
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Brazil has voiced the same concern that the Venezuelan constitution should be respected. So are they also “coming to Latin americans to dictate english BS”?
Jan 16th, 2013 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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THEMan
@6 Condorito, I know that she was right. And that still doesn't change my point, as it clearly does matter. And he/she still hasn't replied to my points about problems in the US as well. All countries have problems- even the UK has had it's share of problems, for example the poll tax riots 20 years ago, the fact Scotland is led on the international stage by a government they didn't vote for. That to me is even bigger than the problem in Venezuela, and hope it is fixed with the upcoming independence referendum where I will vote 'Yes' just to get rid of Westminster, no matter what the consequences COULD be.
Jan 16th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Pirat-Hunter
#8 sorry I didn't read anything about Brazil in this report, but I do enjoy telling the english to fix Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and Libya before arming terrorists in Latin America as they done in Colombia, Mexico, Panama and el Salvador, Latinos will never forget who our enemy is.
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_64333.shtml
Jan 16th, 2013 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Condorito
@9
Aye, but this tread is about the unconstitutionality of the situation evolving in Venezuela, not about UK internal affairs.

@10
Seeing as you missed it:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/01/15/brazil-insists-with-fresh-election-in-venezuela-if-chavez-dies-according-to-reuters

As for:
“Latinos will never forget who our enemy is.”
I have never met a Chilean who thinks the English are the enemy, though there are many who regard Argentina as a threat (historically).
Jan 16th, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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