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Cristina Fernandez re-election back on the political agenda ahead of the mid term October election
The possibility of a re-re-election of Argentine president Cristina Fernandez is back in the political agenda, this time spurred by a member of the Lower House with close contacts with trade unions and father of the General Manager of the now re-nationalized Argentine flag carrier Aerolineas Argentinas Read full article
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Jan 20th, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I got this idea from my recent visit to Vietnam, now someone please point me in the direction of the Malvinas. I'll give them their bloody referendum!”
So we can expect a statement from her claiming support from Vietnam over Argentina's claim on the Falklands? Yawn!
Jan 20th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at factories generating trade... or ... go down tunnels. Hmm, where is the choice in that?
Jan 20th, 2013 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why they even bother discussing her getting into power for another term, when she already ignored the constitution with her decrees. Why don't they just keep her in power forever, so the 'Kirchner model can get really deep' or whatever nonsense they all say.
The kirchner model seems to be abject poverty for all except the germanic ruling elite, so I wonder what happens when it gets deeper?
Well people on here have been saying that she is digging herself into a hole!
Jan 20th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hope the crew on her british jet have been dicking her drinks, I would
Jan 20th, 2013 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A re-re election on an unconstitutional basis. That's way to go. Thank God democracy isn't dead in Argentina.
Jan 20th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder what it's written on? back of a fag packet if you ask me.
Jan 20th, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they should have put the lid back down on that. No mention of the Falklands yet and Vietnams unyielding support in favour of rgenweener, I'm shocked, if some unexploded napalm from the war was to go off in her vicinity do you think anyone would be suspicious?
Jan 20th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Asking for a third term is showing disrespect to the constitution. The two-term limit is there for a reason.
Jan 20th, 2013 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am seeing some comparisons between CFK and Menem in this. Just think if Menem got a third term and everything went SPLAT! in his face, which was inevitable considering circumstances. The same could happen to Cristina. The wheels are coming off the machine she has created. She could bow out gracefully and let it crash on someone else's watch or not. As much as I would like to see her at the wheels at the time, I respect the constitution and the political and moral reasons for a two term presidency limit.
@9 You think she respects anything? Gosh, how green are you.
Jan 20th, 2013 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ive never seen her grinning so much compared to these these photos of her in these trenches filled with so much horror.Why? She could be interested or empathetic ....but is it a fun occassion?! Is she in a children's adventure playground?
Jan 21st, 2013 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0So lets recap. Shes at her happiest on the other side of the world down a dark, muddy hole in a situation where so much death, horror and destruction took place....
here we go 2 3 4
Jan 21st, 2013 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The good thing about democracy is that the constitution can be amended and CFK meets all the good reasons for doing so, long live CFK. No social revolutions comes without sacrifices, let's hope Argentina is not expecting CFK to do everything alone.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 Pirat-Hunter
Jan 21st, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, constitutions can be amended. It uses a little mechanism called a referendum in most countries. You know, that event that is taking place on the Falkland Islands in March.
It's a chance for the people's voice to be heard.
If the Argentine people choose to change their constitution to allow CFK to get reelected, then I will support this. I'm a big fan of democracy, coming from one of the world's oldest continuous and most stable democracies.
Argentina's continual decline under CFK is all but a foregone conclusion should she be reelected again. The damage she has done to Argentina will take a generation to repair and if the people feel she is their path to a stronger country and a better standard of living, well they can always look next door to see how well they are doing!
They might not like the comparison when they do, but they can always look..... mainly because they can't really afford to do more than look these days.
@Anglo
Jan 21st, 2013 - 05:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you really think PH understood any of what you said??
He reads, but does not comprehend.
It should please her South American buddies that she is apparently so enamoured with the victories of extreme left wing rebels... Columbia, for example...
Jan 21st, 2013 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Troy
Jan 21st, 2013 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm rarely known for brevity so the answer is....
No!
13 Pirat-Hunter
Jan 21st, 2013 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The good thing about democracy is that the constitution can be amended”
.....................Animal Farm anyone?
I smell a dictatorship coming on..........Remember this quote by Tony Blair........Anywhere, anytime ordinary people are given the chance to choose, the choice is the same: freedom, not tyranny; democracy, not dictatorship; the rule of law, not the rule of the secret police.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0We will soon see the wisdom of the Argentinian people or otherwise!
Jan 21st, 2013 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 PH
Jan 21st, 2013 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0The thing about Constitutions is that it's meant to be difficult to change them, and takes the consent of the people after a long discussion about the pros and cons of changing said Constitution.
In Argentina, the government treats the Constitution as an inconvenience, not a moral standard that is meant to guide them and protect the people FROM them. YPF is a classic example of this. Steal the company by pretending to 'nationalise' it, refuse to pay Repsol the market value (or anything at all), convening the Constitution. Then change the Constitution to make the seizure legal and apply in RETROACTIVELY.
That is what the Argentine government truly thinks of Argentina's constitution. Their contempt of the Constitution makes it worthless, and it is no longer able to protect the people from dictators, which your beloved CFK is becoming.
Step 1: Find someone to blame for all your problems - the Falkland Islanders & the British.
Step 2: Continuously tell the people lies that the Falkland Islands are yours and that the British are your enemy.
Step 3: Indoctrinate your children into believing this tosh.
Step 4: Steal loads of money from your fellow countrymen.
Step 5: Refuse to answer questions from the press.
Step 6: Appear almost daily on television spouting the same crap, but still refuse to answer questions from journalists.
Step 7: Form your own version of the Hitler youth and call it La Campora.
Step 8: Stifle the free press.
Step 9: Send the taxman after anyone who disagrees with you.
Step 10: Try to control the courts.
Step 11: Curtail people's freedoms by refusing to allow them to buy dollars, and making it virtually impossible to leave the country.
Step 12: Constinue to murder the Native Amerindians.
Step 13: Change the Constitution so you can stay in office as long as you want.
Soon the facade of democracy will fall from Argentina, and the world will see CFK and her cronies for the National Socialist fascists that they are.
CFK brought up the subject of colonialism in Vietnam.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Vietnamese looked quizical...
But you are German/Latino they said...not ethnic South American.
Your ancestors were guilty of the slaughter of the ethnic population similar to what we saw at the hands of the French.
Million of us died at the hands of colonialists..LIKE YOU.
Piss off with your false claims.
China is trying to steal our Paracel and Spratley Islands in the same way as you are trying to steal the Falklands. Please support our claims!
Crikey your are ugly.
@21 I think that façade fell away a long time ago. It's just the local audience who seem so enamored by her that they're unwilling to understand that she's shafting them, their children and their children's children.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0What I'm curious about is this whole 'social revolution' that they keep talking about. Just look at the social revolution in Venezuela, which delivered widespread corruption and endemic poverty. The Kirchner model is delivering the same poverty in Argentina.
They seem completely unawares of the fact they're receiving a long shaft.
Personally I'm fine with a change to the constitution as long as there is a free and fair referendum and the people decide that they want it changed. Obviously you would not want to see a change without this. If the Argentineans decide that they want her re-re-elected then it is their choice. After all, it is them who have to live with the decision (for good or bad) and we are hardly in a position to dictate to other what their constitution should be. Remember, Agrentina is a baby of a country in historical terms and is still trying to come to terms with what it is and what it stands for. As such, you may expect to see changes to the constitution earlier on in the life of a country and its constitution such as is happening now. Remember, there have been 27 amenedments to the US constitution with the last one in 1992.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm surprised nobody got scared of that creepy troll face sticking out of the ground. Anyone caught by surprise would shoot it.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0PH is mixing up constitution with law. Constitutions are written in stone almost. They have been described as the bedrock of nations. But they are not worth the bother if the government has no respect for them and chops and changes them on a whim.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Laws on the other hand are designed to be flexible. They can be amended, tailored, brought into force and repealed as time and circumstance dictate. This is why some countries eschew constitutions. Not because they abhor human rights but because they need to be able make laws that uphold them.
Not that laws can be changed on a whim mind you. There still needs to be a consensus but as I see it consensus is irrelevant to KFC. She wants, she gets. Constitution or no. She will find out eventually that the patience of Argentina is finite. They will tolerate her petulance only so far and then they will snap. She ought be out of the country when it happens.
Oh for gosh sakes this nutty women is never going to make it to the end of her term. There is already mass protests, huge violent crime spikes, the unions are antsy and hyperinflation is about to take off. Do any of these Rgs know anything about their own history! Sheesh!
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst the way a person looks has no bearing on their ability as a leader, the photos coming out of Vietnam show CFKC looking her age. I think this is positive. A woman of nearly sixty should grow old gracefully.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0As a leader she is hopelessly out of her depth.
Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers which they dare not dismount.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0A few people here seem to be lumping all Argentines into one group. I think its important to distinguish the deep divide in Argentina. The millions that ARENT scamming through the system or sucking at the teet for life support - ie the working middle/class 'independents' - hate her and the system as much as any of the posters here.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 030. Then they need to get their act together and form an opposition! They have been splintered for 25 yrs and at some point you'd think they would wise up and pull together to defeat this plague once and for all.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I lump them together because this has gone on for 60 yrs!
So yeah, they're either dumb or lazy or both and nobody can seem to tell me which it is.
@30 I happen to agree with you. I have met many good Argentines working hard and trying to make the country successful against the odds. It does not help that there is a significant poor section of society - deliberately kept poor - that vote for the Kirchner oligarchy because she promises hope when they have none. (They seem not to notice she never delivers). Add to that the crooked practises at elections and they are not on a level playing field.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The good people of Argentina need to learn to play dirty in the short-term to get a better country in the long-term.
And I don't lump all Argentines together. I have said this repeatedly.
@Pirat-Hunter The only reason Hitler Kirchner needs a third term is to finish bleeding your country and it's people drier than it already is-can you immagine a US president asking for a 3rd term, tell us all why she can not do in two terms that she can in 3. SS Hitler Kirchner the thief of the century
Jan 21st, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pity she didn't meet a real vietcong with a pistol coming the other way.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She looks very happy.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps she has finally found a hole deep enough to hide in when the lynch mob shows up to demand their money and future back.
Did she also tour HCM's reeducation camps he put in after he took over the south? I bet she took some notes there!
Jan 21st, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also, the next time I hear “fatigue” excuses about how she is unable to make appearances or travel, correlating when bad news comes out, I'll remember the image of her scrambling about like a thrilled 5-year-old as if she found the worlds most-super-awesomestestest play area. As the classic sketch goes, “Earache my eye!”
lets imagine for a moment Cameron poking around a preserved WW1 trench for a pr stunt grinning like a fool. Or Aushwitz. There is no question in my mind that she is a sociopath. Utterly unwell.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That photo made me think of Ground Hog day !!!
Jan 21st, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor
Jan 21st, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK,
make up , make up , where that make up,
my audience is waiting for me..
@30 Tobers: Well said.
Jan 21st, 2013 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My concern is that all Argentinians get a fair say and a fair vote... rather than certain parties buying vote en-mass for a box of food and some Pesos.
The legitimacy of a Constitutional change is only as good as the authenticity of the referendum or vote that changes it....
I wonder if Argentina will take a lesson from the Falklanders and get in some truly independent foreign observers.
(CFK can always blame them if she loses)
I am sorry people but Argentina did a lot better with CFK and Nestor then in the past ten years then all the other presidents before 2001 and that's a irrefutable fact! So, I support a constitutional change to allow for a continued reelection policy, with midterm confidence vote after a third consecutive term in office. In many colonies the governor general is never elected and no body seems to care, I don't see why CFK is being targeted by outsiders.
Jan 28th, 2013 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@41 PH ALEX VARGAS
Jan 28th, 2013 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Outsiders'??
You don't understand??
That's because you are an idiot.
BTW, you ALEX VARGAS, living in Canada, refusing to return to Argentina, are an outsider, also.
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