MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Gibraltar and the Falklands referendum: “we are with you every step of the way”
Chief Minister Fabian Picardo has expressed Gibraltar’s “unqualified” support for the people of the Falklands in their forthcoming referendum. Picardo’s remarks were delivered by Samantha Sacramento last week at the Commonwealth parliamentary Association regional conference in the capital of Stanley in Falklands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules'“Argentina would bury its dictatorship as a result of that war. But neither Spain nor Argentina were clever enough to bury their expansionist nationalism with the dictators that exemplified such causes,” he said.'
Feb 18th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and
'“Democratic Spain and Argentina have pursued their claims despite their patently being anti-democratic in doing so. They continue to fail to see how they in effect seek to run rough-shod over our rights - those fundamental human rights the origins of which we have identified originate from the spilt blood of millions - just because nationalistic causes are still peddled with equal traction by the alleged democrats who lead their governments today.”'
I think that sums it up.
Germany and Japan, removed their dictatorships AND even their symbolic tastes for expansion. I think that's a major difference between the Axis and post Junta Argentina. They could reconcile as Germany had to do with its neighbors. But AR still both disowns and celebrates the Junta via the invasion and expansion of its Dirty War as its only saving grace (and raging against it only for failing to hold the islanders and being not-so-nice to their own conscripts). No one would ever dream of seeing coins celebrating the rape of Nanking or the invasion of Poland from either Germany or Japan. Argentina? Well, 2 pesos on the table says mountains on ~that~! They learned nothing in 1982, and I seriously doubt they learned anything through the entire extent of their Dirty War on their own people..
This guy is such a fat clown.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's doing his job, and doing it well, more than can be said for certain South American leaders...
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and you nostril are just a clown
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Nostrolldamus the 10th , Before you call anyone fat you need to look at the blips and ass of your dear lady president SS hitler Kirchner and her massively obese son Maximo THE THIEF Kirchner, NOW THATS WHAT I CALL FAT 2 people screwing Argentina for all they can
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think we ought to celebrate the outcome of the REFERENDUM of the FALKLANDS as the Argies celebrate the invasion of the FALKLANDS, I will drink to that whatever the outcome.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will always support and defend the Falklands and Gibraltar,
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Until they wish otherwise,
Interestingly I read yesterday that some annalist predict that Spain would become the next Germany,
As all this austerity cuts will benefit them.
Im not so sure,?
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The Falkland Islands and Gibraltar have a very important, steadfast ally and protector. The British people. We inhabit a small group of islands. And yet we have been, and remain, a world power. Not the size of China, Russia or the United States. But we have beaten, or fought to a standstill, all of them. The people of Britain will not permit any British “government” to desert either the Falkland Islanders or the people of Gibraltar. Sometimes political manoeuvres take a little time. Not as satisfying, perhaps, as bombing Buenos Aires or Madrid. Or sinking the argie “navy” or anything that ventures into British Gibraltar Territorial Waters (BGTW). Or reducing the argie and Spanish “air forces” to blazing ruins. On a regular basis, the British “government” is told to stop being so wimpish. An argie vessel ventures into Falklands waters? Sink it. An argie aircraft ventures into Falklands airspace? Shoot it down. A Spanish vessel ventures into BGTW? Arrest it. A Spanish aircraft enters into Gibraltar airspace? Force it down or shoot it down. And if you need ground troops? I may be old but I'm willing. You need to arrange to get me there, give me a weapon and ammunition, food and water. And I know I won't be the only one. How many do you need? 1 million? 5 million?
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 Nostrolldamus the 10th This guy is such a fat clown.----- No he is telling you wankers how it was how it became and how for the Falkland people its going to be if they wish it. And at the same time he is also saying what utter stupid Spain and Argentina have been and still are.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 no one needs to sink the rg navy or shoot down the rg airforce (I think they only have 4 operational fighters left) they are doing a good enough job by themselves why waste the ammo
Feb 18th, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'The impression is that people who are living under certain conditions should have access to certain level of capacities so that they can decide on their own future.' Ban Ki-Moon speaking to a reporter from the Tiempo Argentino newspaper about the Falkland Islands referendum.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Secretary General of the UN Ban Ki-Moon is with the Falkland Islanders every step of the way.
@02 TTT/Arifu/Toby
Feb 18th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This guy is such a fat clown.”
Toby made one short 'fat'uous remark, and got lots of attention.
Let's leave it at that.
:-)
The parallels with Germany and Japan are unreasonable. Both those countries were punished with the deaths of millions of their people, and only that level of defeat gives the wake-up call necessary to defeat Nazism expansionism.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the UK showed pity in 1982, and did as Reagan asked and not “humiliate”Argentina, we left with them the notion that you could attack British territory and get away with “just” 650 losses. It seems that given their glorification of the war, their continued attitude and lies, this defeat was insufficient.
Not a mistake we'd make twice.
13 Monkeymagic
Feb 18th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly, and the way things are going TMBOA may just lose it long enough to try again, even with their pissant little military stuffed full of cowards, an airforce with no serviceable planes and a navy with no ships capable of getting to the Falklands.
But heh! So it's a turkey shoot: let's shoot a few turkeys.
T45 anyone?
Don't need a T45 HMS Clyde could handle it on her own
Feb 18th, 2013 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet Israel would back the settlers too.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Birds of a feather.
16 Vestige, You could always ask The Isreales to take that excuse of a minister Timerman of your hands isn't he a Jew??
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ehh....
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 Tito The Clown Troll
Feb 18th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Tito!! We all stand in awe of your latest post!!
Once again showing off your rapier like wit and intelectual where-with-all, all at the same time.........
You can now sit back in the warm glow of a job well done..............
Clown
@16 Vestige
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly your intention in comparing the Falkland Islanders to Israeli settlers is to try and tarnish the islanders reputations by associating them with right-wing religious nationalists who are attempting to drive the Palestinians further and further back into their homeland and away from their capital. When the Islanders drive their tanks over children in BA and fire illegal weapons into Red Cross compounds then I will take your desperate comparison more seriously. In 1982 Argentina invaded the Falklands and forced their will militarily on a small and largely defenceless population. That you should consider the Islanders as the Israelis in this scenario suggests a serious lack of perspective.
@19 - toooldtodieyoung
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you get the feeling that Tobias/TTT/Nostril's heart isn't in it lately, not even a thesaurus in sight?
So one of three things must've happened.
1. La Campora have stopped paying him, and his mother has told him to get out a find a decent job.
Or
2. He has finally woke up to the fact that Argentina is in deep sh!t and getting worse and he feels impotent to do anything about it.
Or
3. Both if the above points.
:D
Well done Fab! Britain will support you and the falklands, rest easy.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ignore Nostrils, clutching at straws. Spain will never get Gib, historically it belongs to the Moors than spaniards, to the brits more than the moors.
LEPRecon
Feb 18th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah I've notice a severe decline in the quality of trolling on here. Along with a noticeable increase. Leading me to definitively say that quantity does not equate to quality.
The problem is that they can obviously see the dire straits their economy is in whenever they receive their pay packet or go shopping.
They can argue until they are black or blue on here, but the proof is in the declining number of pesos in their hands and their inability to get any US$ to hedge against the inevitible cost increases as inflation breaches the 30% mark this year.
(Oh btw Toby always grabs the thesaurus when you highlight it!)
Oh dear another truth being met with the typical argentine troll insults, encouraging to see the standards are slipping in the troll camp “Abandon ship”, i would work on your insults as they are all you ever have had and most likely ever will, while The Falklands drifts out of Argentine grasp by the day!
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hispanic expansionism is so 1700s, these countries need to have a refresher course in democracy leading to their UN membership being reviewed.
SELF-DETERMINATION.....The UN Charter!
@13
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is a great theory. You agree with the terrorist then.
It seams your glorification of war, the lies and flippant attitude about bombing the middle east for years and years, was insufficient.
London 2005 was a good beat-down, just like Madrid 2004 was. Both of you went scurrying for cover behind papi USA. I'd say if Europe tries another Iraq or Afghanistan, Iran would be in its full right to give a few dozen nukes to suicide strappers.... and maybe then you'll learn yourselves you can't wage war on others without consequences.
@”23 Anglo
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They don't seem to have any new points to argue, just repeating the same old stuff, over and over.
Tony is easily rattled now, I'm sure he's losing confidence.
@25 Iran has no plans for nukes, so we are told, but nice to see even you agree that iran (terrorist sponsor) would use nukes given any opportunity, bolstering any view that they should be stopped by all means possible for peaceful ends.....
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and expansionism will be neutralised wether it be from iran or argentina.
with a happy “U.N” ending one way or another....
SELF-DETERMINATION....Its Da Bomb!
@26 Troy
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, I thought the article was about Gibraltar and the Falklands. Not sure how terrorist attacks (“good beat-down”) in London and Madrid is relevant. Iraq? Huh?
Iran? Double huh?
I though the article was about the inherently undemocractic nature of Spanish and Argentine claims against neighbouring territory.
@28
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was responding to #13 who said people only learn to be cautious about war when they themselves experience death, destruction, horror, and terror.
Then if anyone agrees that such is human nature, then the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, Madrid, London, etc, etc, were beneficial because they have certainly made attitudes change about just bombing some Ragheads and not facing any consequences of doing so for 30 years before 2001.
Well, this thread has given me at least one more angle on argtard/spanishtard doublethink. It's now totally a funny whirlwind of contradictory nonsense.
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“London 2005 was a good beat-down, just like Madrid 2004 was.”
So, if the Basque country was given a referendum on independance from Spain you'd support their right to self-determination? It seems that way from your apparently gleeful support of the ETA bombing of Madrid in 2004. After all they've been a people longer than Spain has been a unified territory...
Thing is if you support that, that's tacit acceptance of the right of self-determination trumping “territorial integrity”.
At that point, it's pretty hypocritical to decide that a patch of land that's been freely associated with Britain for longer than the span of time a unified Spain held it after displacing the moors naturally belongs to Spain over the rights of the locals; or that a small group of islands freely associated with Britain since before Argentina was a country legally belong to Argentina.
In essence, if you support Eta, you support self-determination over “territorial integrity”, Argentina has no case and should STFU and go away.
#25
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0London 2005 was a good beat-down, just like Madrid 2004 was. Both of you went scurrying for cover behind papi USA.
Glasgow 1987 -No USA involvement. Our average Jocks just went for them and kicked the shit out of them.
and maybe then you'll learn yourselves you can't wage war on others without consequences.
Have your lot learned your lesson from 1982 ?
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Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What an excellent article for the filthy mob of OKUPAS occupying our islands Malvinas Argentinas in the name of his ”Gracious Majesty!
Feb 18th, 2013 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go kelpers to vote and for convenience are still used by the mafia, make like an ostrich and can continue his comfortable life at the expense of Argentina's natural resources.
THE MALVINAS ARGENTINAS ISLANDS WERE, ARE AND WILL BE ARGENTINE!
Go, go, go!
http://www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/2013/2268.htm
Not in this universe, Jose.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@31 Clyde15: 2007 just in case our Argentine posters missed it.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5y4gKT7bAQ
Top man
@30
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have no idea what you are talking about but I can tell you Argentina has no ETA, IRA, Mafia, Nazi terror Cells, Algerian fighters, and all that other crap you Europeans have had. We are a civilized country and a unified country, no province has any separarist intentions.
#30 Yup, your all a consistent failure. Frightened to go to court, humiliated by a smaller force in war and failed to stop a referendum on self determination.. Pretty consistent. Still you do have nice mountains in your colony, just like you have in the alps the picos and sierras. You also have a very nice clock in BA. It's a pity that some morons have covered it in grafiti. It now looks just like all those horrid old buildings in Rome, a nice mess. But then you wouldn't know would you, you dipstick...
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@32 IMPOSTER
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0THIS NOT TROY TEMPEST @32
This is another 'sussie' post, @32 impersonating my account.
Please DISREGARD THE MESSAGE - it is false.
Please feel free to report @32 to moderators and any other posts with the same substitution of “o” in “Troy” for a zero.
Troy this time she took the space out! Some interesting comments on other articles by Sussie. They will be removed.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino,
Feb 19th, 2013 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you.
I am usually on my iPhone, so images are a bit small.
I appreciate your vigilance, and that of others.
I have reported two posts, so far.
It seems that as we get closer to the Referendum in 21 days, the Trolls are stepping up their attacks and are increasingly desperate.
Certainly, they have far shorter tempers and are noticably, more careless and reckless. LOL!!
Their economy is nosediving,
Fewer trips to Havanna for sweeties for a few of them. :-)
Even worse for others.
No problem Troy. I agree there has been a noticeable increase lately. Manning the baracades so to speak.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie can be inventive though. I do chuckle. I can't wait to see what she does for me. I still awaiting my turn.
With the economy past its peak and starting its inexorable decline to the next crash, I expect plenty more deflection. Anything but the issue at hand.
“Fabian Picardo has expressed Gibraltar’s “unqualified” support”
Feb 19th, 2013 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure he knows that also “unqualified” means incompetent.
Fabian, can not keep Spanish naval vessels out of Gibraltar waters nor his back straight.
@42MA
Feb 19th, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Unqualified”=“unbounded”
Like your bile.
32 TroyTempest Comment removed by the editor. :-)))
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Marcos.... fool! Did you read the actual name?
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0LMAO that Marcos fell for Sussie's tricks. Must be his intelligence level.
@36 - Tobias
Feb 19th, 2013 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you didn't bother posting on 90% of Falklands related threads, yet every time I go on a Falklands thread there you are.
Makes me think that you are a liar?
As for you not having any disunity, then you must really be living with your head in a hole, so you can't see what's happening around you.
You do have terrorists in Argentina. They are called the Argentine government.
They support the stealing of land and rights from the Native Amerindians in Argentina.
They are trying to oust those Provincial Governors who don't 'tow' the 'Dear Leader's' party line.
They hound anyone who publicly disagrees with them.
They are trying to stifle the free press.
They have their own terrorist organisation called 'La Campora' who threaten people and attack premises that their government 'paymasters' tell them to, or board cruise vessels to demand that the follow the 'Dear Leaders' insane policy.
Yup, Tobias, Argentina has terrorists, but unlike all the countries you mention, you let the terrorists take over your country and destroy democracy and your freedoms.
By the way, many of your Provinces have been muttering about more autonomy or even independence ever since your beloved 'Dear Leader' has tried to starve them of money.
But back to the topic at hand.
Why are you posting on this thread since it has to do with the Falklands, Mr 'I don't post on 90% of Falklands related story's' Tobias?
Gibraltar and the Falklands, two emerging new countries (at some point in the future whenever they wish it), with the same problem.
They are neighbours to failing countries who use them as a means to distract the hungry masses from the fact that their governments are useless and failures.
But nothing they can say or do can overturn the right to self-determination as laid out in the UN Charter.
@45,46 Anglotino and LEPRECON
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, said!! Slap down those Trolls!
Toby needs to be exposed every time he says one thing and does another! Hold his feet to the fire.
And Marcos, what a dummy!!
He must have seen the bogus Sussie post@32 and rushed to shame 'me' in a comment before reading my loud disclaimer.
Sussie 1
Marcos 0
How's that for turn of events! Puts him in PH's league :-)
@30 Nostrils
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nazi terror cells! Well I doubt anything like that exists. Didn't most nazis run off to hide in south america?
@25 You is funny. Desperately funny. Iran has no more nukes than argieland has. And argieland has none. What have you been reading? “The Fourth Protocol”? Make no mistake. Any state that makes any serious attempt to attack Britain with nukes will cease to exist!
Feb 19th, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 Another ignoramus! I think we've established that “Malvinas” is a fairytale land somewhere in the area of Neverland and Oz. The Falkland Islands have NEVER been, are NOT and NEVER will be argie. The best the slobs from the mainland have ever managed is trespassing. These days, WE have a new attitude. Trespassers will be persecuted. Perhaps we should begin by arresting any and every argie that gets within 200 miles, taking them to Britain, putting them on trial and then into prison. Minimum sentence of 15 years. No remission.
@36 What a dreamland you live in. Unified? That's why your “federal” criminals constantly have battles with your “provincial” criminals. Civilised? You have no idea what civilisation means. Do tell us about La Campora and Quebracho, won't you? And how many more are there like them?
@42 Desperate, boy. Very desperate. Didn't your “trolley dolly” say that “three-sided dialogue about the Falklands is unthinkable”. How do you talk about something without thinking about it? And you might as well “think” about it. Otherwise you'll be “talking” to yourselves. Now that Britain has made a start by deciding to block all future IADB and WB loans to argieland, it's time to demand that Britain refuses to enter into any agreements or treaties that involve argieland.
@33 JoseMalvenero
Feb 19th, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's pleasing to know that in your last breath you might utter “Malvinas are Argentine” and your doctor will say “what is he talking about, they're british.”
Jose, you've been sold a pup, don't waste your life defending a lie, we british posters defend the truth and always win as you are firing blanks on all these Mercopress battlegrounds.
There is no comparison between the sovereignty claim on the British territories of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An Anglo-Dutch force captured Gibraltar from Spain in 1704 during the War of the Spanish Succession on behalf of the Habsburg pretender to the Spanish throne. The territory was subsequently ceded to Britain “in perpetuity” under the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713. It was an important base for the Royal Navy; today its economy is based largely on tourism, online gaming, financial services, and shipping. Therefore Spain and Britain would have to renegotiate the pertinent part of the Treaty of Utrecht that applies to Gibraltar. I believe Britain forfeited the Balearic Islands in order to assume sovereignty of Gibraltar.
On the other hand, the Falklands archipelago is British by historic right.
@nossie
Feb 19th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How pathetic your trolling has become.
The square that you cant circle Nossie, is that in the past 100 years, britain has voluntarily and peacefully reduced its Empire to the tune of nearly 1/3 of the land surface of the planet.
it has promoted democracy in these territories and has an excellent working relationship with the vast majority in the form of the commonwealth. Their have been very few “wars of Independence” and nearly all former colonies are voluntary members of the commonwealth. Indeed some states that werent even colonies wish to join.
What does that tell you about the “evil” British Empire??
Contrast that with Argtardtina...
Supported the nazis during WW2
Stole land of its neighbours and wont give it back
Invaded the sovereign territory of neighbouring islands who despise them and hold them in contempt.
Even for a shithole non-entity of a country like yours, its a pitiful history.
As for the glorification of war, Britain (the victor) remembers 1982 with sadness at the loss of brave service men due to the cowardice of the Argentine attack. Argentina (the loser) celebrates the invasion and wishes it could do it again but knows it'd lose, so just winges like a pathetic child (you do seem to be the embodiment of Argentina Nossie).
A compared you/Argentina previously to a heroin addict. You see yourself as a brave, edgy, rule-bender, who is challenging authotirty. We see you as an amaciated loser, choking on his own vomit whilst in some sort of smack-induced delirium.
Always fun to chat though.
@52
Feb 19th, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fortunately, many of us don't believe in British propaganda, i.e., what you are taught at school.
@53
Feb 19th, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fortunately, all of us don't believe in Argentinean propaganda, i.e. what you are taught at school
@53 Nose Candy
Feb 19th, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Fortunately, many of us don't believe in British propaganda, i.e., what you are taught at school.”
You DO believe the anti-British / Malvinista propaganda that your government crams down your throat at school.
And you will pass it on to your kids.
53 Nostrolldamus, are you not ashamed to be kissing the ass of a thief and a liar like Crissy Kirchner or is it something you enjoy?? JUST ASKING
Feb 19th, 2013 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53
Feb 19th, 2013 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0False Falklands History at the United Nations: How Argentina misled the UN in 1964 – and still does
http://www.falklandshistory.org/false-falklands-history.pdf
And that is just the lies about the Falklands, we haven't even started on the lies it tells about its country :)
57
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best talk of truths.
http://www.malvinense.com.ar/smalvi/2013/Malvinas_verdad_historica.pdf
After having their referendum rejected by the UN, of course Gibraltar’s “unqualified” to support self-determination of British subjects in other countries territories.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In schools all over the UK, they lay out a lage scale Red, White and Blue colured map of the Falkland Islands on the floor. Then the teacher idoctrinates the kids about how the Argentines colonised the Islands and we British expelled them. All the kids then sing national songs and paste labels on the map, with the names of the soldiers killed there in 1982. Followed by the national anthem.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not ferkin think so!not in a million years, but I have just described a documentary clip of an actual Argentine history class!
Propoganda, Brainwashing anyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@58 Must be rubbish as its written in Spanish.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing worth reading in Spanish is 'Don Quixote', even that is a bloody fairy story.
Benies kelpers & Gibraltarians=PARASITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Feb 19th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58
Feb 19th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're having a laugh. How can anyone in the sane World rely on Argentina for the truth?
Real inflation = 30% -v- INDEC Argentine government inflation of 10.8%
And can you name 102 countries. Pretty hard hard. But Argentina is down in 102nd place in the Global Transparency Index : - cpi.transparency.org/
Transparency is all about the truth: www.falklandshistory.org/
Still,what will happen when the Tin Man finds out that he can't do anything outside Argentina about companies exploring for oil and gas in Falkland waters? No jursidiction = no sovereignty case!
@55 that will have kids, God help us
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many angry Argentinas here? What they wrong? Who thatvnos guy. Grand rocks in Argie
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60 reality check
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please tell me that was a joke. That isn't for real is it?
@62 Gustbury
Learn to spell. Otherwise your insults look weird!
@66 Oh yes it is real I have seen the film as well,it was an Aussie made programme
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@62 Gustbury: If Argenina ever pays back all the money they borrowed, then you can start calling other peoples parasites.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just as a side note Gibraltar has 5000 Spanish people employed there, and Spanish fishermen have been over fishing in Gibraltar waters since Spain had the area declared a protected zone in the EU. I think it is pretty obvious who the parasites are in that relationship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NAY0boeOl-w
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watch from about 7.50
#62
Feb 19th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Parasites have a habit of getting under your skin and causing you extreme discomfort and there is no cure available for you apart from getting out their way !!
Saphira
Feb 19th, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you. That's the documentary I was referring too.
sussie is using my name minus a z so don't be fooled i have reported the said crack whore
Feb 19th, 2013 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN, considering that any colonial situation which partially or completely destroys the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, declared the 1967 Gibraltar referendum being a “contravention of the provisions of Resolution 2231”.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar is indeed not qualified to support self-determination of similar british colonies.
I´m anxious for a UN Resolution declaring the M10-11 referendum a contraversion to the principles of the UN Charter, alike.
”The UN, considering that any colonial situation which partially or completely destroys the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations, declared the 1967 Gibraltar referendum being a “contravention of the provisions of Resolution 2231”.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So as the Falklands are not an enclave within the boarders of Argentina and certainly situated well outside its maritime limits they are not subject to the provisions of Resolution 2231.
Resolution 2231 does not apply, either, to Gibraltar as the El Peñon was ceded to Britain BY TREATY by the Kingsom of Spain.
“Gibraltar not qualified to support,” so there we have it another briliantly Humane Argentine gesture. They do not fucking exist either!
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My, my, the list is getting longer, who next I wonder?
Read this
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scroll down to this.
Kirchner’s Argentina: externalising domestic tensions
http://dalyhistory.wordpress.com/
The answer as to why the issue keeps re-appearing, as so often with latin american politics, lies within. Listed below are just a few of the news stories regarding Argentina from the BBC website in the past few months:
Widespread unrest and looting in Argentina; troops deployed
Seized Argentine Navy ship leaves Ghana
IMF data deadline looms for Argentine fagile economy
Argentina wins court delay over debt
Argentina default over debt likely
And more
So… rioting on the streets and supermarkets being looted; Navy ship seized in a foreign port over unpaid debts; the IMF questioning Argentine honesty regarding financial data; and the possibility of a default over foreign debt… still wondering why Fernandez-Kirchner is trying to divert the attention of her people outside the country’s borders? It’s an ever-present in Argentine politics – when there are problems, the Malvinas issue is dragged out. It’s route one politics and not all that indistinguishable from Galtieri’s methodology in 1982.
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Gibraltar is as relevant in South America as Ozzy Osbourne is at a String Theory Symposium.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's funny but of all the arguments from the Malvinistas...and there really is crap spouted, the territorial integrity and national unity argument is the most crazy. A child of two could drive a bus through the concept.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The united Provinces of River Plate formed in 1816 which the Malvinista trolls which to claim is the precursor to modern day Argentina....looks NOTHING like modern day Argentina. There are swathes of Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile, Brazil included, and swathes of the Pampas, Patagonia and current Argentina not included....how can all those MASSIVE boundary changes not be an impact on Argentinas “national unity and territorial integrity” but the Falklands are?
Given that the Malvinas trolls can't make up their minds whether the Falklands were or weren't part of the United Provinces in 1816 when Independence was claimed, or whether that happened in 1820 with Jewitt, or perhaps 1826 with Vernet, no hang on it was 1828 with Vernet, no wait a second, it was November 1832 with Mestevier, oh crap no, it's was December 1833 Pinedo...whooops we inherited them from Spain....it's hard to know if/when the United Provinces ever had “national unity” or “territorial integrity” at all.
It seems that perhaps the United Provinces had “national unity” for 8 weeks in 1832 during the murdering and raping period, but certainly not territorial integrity as the genocidal rampage through Patagonia hadn't occured for another 50 years.
Perhaps then, the only occurrence when Argentina had both “national unity” and “territorial integrity” was for those 2 months in 1982. Is that the period the Malvinista trolls are referring to in their quoting of UN resolutions..?
Oh look...the only binding and mandatory resolution from any period concerning the islands occurs just at that “perfect storm”, and it orders the Argies to leave.
So, there has only ever been “national unity” and “territorial integrity” once...and the UN told them to piss off!!! LOLLOl jajaja
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Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crack and a keyboard don't mix.
The only truthfull claim CFK has,
Feb 19th, 2013 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is her own purse strings.
and even that is a bit sus ..
yes...Nossie...I called you a heroin addict, and the best you can come back with is a “that's you” repost.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A sign of your extraordinarily limited intelligence. Thick as shit you are Nossie...poor little baby.
'The journal publishes a false Falklands interview Timerman - Jokingly and irony, Penguin News invented a story in which the chancellor is liar.'
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.minutouno.com/notas/278387-el-diario-las-malvinas-publica-una-falsa-entrevista-timerman
'Secret papers Chile-UK: new details of the relationship between the Beagle and the Malvinas / Falklands'
http://www.minutouno.com/notas/278387-el-diario-las-malvinas-publica-una-falsa-entrevista-timerman
'Referendum in Malvinas, a decision already made'
http://www.minutouno.com/notas/278387-el-diario-las-malvinas-publica-una-falsa-entrevista-timerman
69 in this country exists libertad de cátedra, our history is well documented, and we will always remember our soldiers and will always give them our respect, in all the corners of Argentina.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Referendum in Malvinas, a decision already made'
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it seems more anti brit drama, and still gives the impression to the argentines, that we have invaded and holding them hostage,
these aries realy do like in cuckoo land.
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