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Chavez back from Cuba to spend what is left of his life in Venezuela, says independent medical assessment
Rafael Marquina the Venezuelan doctor who is famous for giving precise information in his Twitter on the health condition of President Hugo Chavez, on Monday published additional data revealing probably what seems the most rational reason for the leader’s return to his home country. Read full article
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Feb 19th, 2013 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well thankfully it will be excruciating painful as well. It will take a generation to undo the damage this froot loop has done.
A true leader would have retired quietly for the sake of his people and country.... but then again Chavez always thought of himself first and foremost. Well his family is well and truly rich now after his stint in power, so his tomb will be quite spectaular.
Poor Bolivar, say hello to your new neighbour!
While Chavez is an idiotic authoritarian I don't think wishing him an excruciatingly painful death is particularly laudable. He's done - let's just hope Correa doesn't pick up exactly where he left off by leading South America down a dead end
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0For those who speak Castellano do yourself a favour and view this interview with doctor Jose Rafael Marquina. It gives you an understanding of the series of errors made by the inept Cuban doctors in the treatment of Chavez.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Part 1. http://youtu.be/-8zJJ_qQZz0
Part 2. http://youtu.be/-8zJJ_qQZz0
Well I guessed he was on the supercharger that is steroids but never dreamt they would be stupid enough to give him this complex. This is a synthetic narcotic analgysic 100 times more powerful than morphine and would do his condition real harm just to appear 'healthy'. It is quick acting but short in duration and requires continuous application. Some idiots take small doses as a 'recreational drug' and end up in permanent rest.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Marquina also revealed that during the electoral campaign he was kept active with the drug Fentanilo, “which is fifty times stronger than morphine and steroids”.”
So, he is as I posted yesterday, back to die AND it will be in excrutiating pain despite heavy sedation drugs.
No more painful than the lives of those he destroyed with extra-judicial murders and he desrves all the pain possible and to die in screaming agony: there is no Hades, so he had better get all the grief he can before oblivion.
I bet the idiots still swear him in as President. Some countries are beyond saving, this is one of them.
That the Cuban doctors messed up does not surprise me. They created so many problems with Castro that Russian doctors had to try to repair the damage.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is significant that Chavez put himself and his dream before the well-being of his country by running for President knowing full well he was incapable of fulfilling that role. Ego? Possibly. I suspect it is more about knowing that if he stepped down his house of cards would collapse. Like Chavez, he is charismatic and iconic in his country. They can sustain their power like no other can. The Castro brother are aware of this and have already started to prepare for Cuba without them. Chavez has not prepared.
I suspect the country will pause until Chavez dies in the near future and then changes will be significant.
#5 - Most likely there will be no change. If you simply kill the dictator, another will take his/her place. The system that allowed for such a dictator hasn't been changed, thus permitting another to take over with little to no effort. I imagine Maduro will take the reigns after Chavez, but it will be done “democratically” or “constitutionally”. Most countries will support the move as it maintains a certain stability that other leaders are comfortable with, including the USA.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it were to be done constitutionally, one reasonable minded person would think that a new election should have been called January 10th. I do not think is a fully understoof concept in the majority of countries in SA. When elected officials first order of business is to change constitutions to their benefit, that's merely laying the foundation to perpetuating and reenforcing their power.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Real political democracy is baced on the institution and not the individual. There is no need for democratic institutions when you desire presisdents for life.....it's not democracy plain and simple. ANd how they can keep their people in the dark and how they accept that is beyond most free thinking minds.
#7 - Actually a Democracy's #1 fallacy is that it is a rule of the majority. It takes no interest in the individuals but instead what 51% want. There are no rights of individuals since a majority can do as they please with a minority. For this specific reason most countries do NOT have democracies but instead a Republic. The USA was built specifically as a Republic because of the fear of “rule of the mob”.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are quick to be critical of “democracies” in Latam, but look around the world. Russia is clearly run by Putin. USA has become a police state. Hitler was elected President. FDR only left office because he died. So when things around the world start getting bad, democracies quickly fall back to tyrannies.
I, for one, certainly don't wish anyone a painful death. Cancer can be a horrible disease.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whilst he is/was certainly flawed, he should be accorded some dignity in his last days.
@8
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice generalisation. False. But nice and tidy for you I guess.
@6
There's no day Maduro can take over “democratically”. Read the Venezuelan constitution. Elections within 30 days. Anything other than that is a coup.
I forgot! Venezuela isn't a democracy anyway so maybe not.
South America has this ability of putting forward left wing politicians and even if Chavez would die today, there's plenty of competent people that can pick up where he leaves. I surely hope he lives long though, mostly because Chris' despair is palpable and extremely amusing.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He deserves the same dignity in his last days as Saddam Hussein, Kadaffi and few other. To have the world's largest reserves and still have poverty......that takes a lot of incompetence or thievery.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy, lets not fool eachother here, you are more interested in the Venezuela's reserves than the well being of its citizens, and so is your government.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No shit stevie....brilliant conclusion.........Do you want a medal of a chest to pin one on?
Feb 19th, 2013 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just stating the obvious, it's you who pretends to care about the Venezuelan people. Well, only when it serves your purposes, I'd say.
Feb 19th, 2013 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I need no medals, but a few more Exxon's wouldn't hurt.
@8 is there anything in the US constitution or its law that would prevent mob rule? I'm mostly ignorant about American law but I don't think so. Even if the Constitution said anything that would stop someone like Chavez from doing what he wants, it wouldn't matter. Leaders like Chavez can openly violate the Constitution simply due to popular support. Remember the Judiciary power can order the other powers but not doing anything about them to make sure they are excecuted. If the founding fathers of the USA were worried about mob rule they shouldn't have based their constitution on the prototypical one of the French Revolution, which was apparently designed by the French bourgoeis to support populism. They should have made one which greatly limited the amount of power people could ammass, cap the amount of people a political party can have in congress, give the Judiciary its means so for imposing orders on the Executive and Legislative by force, etc.
Feb 20th, 2013 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nowhere have I ever stated I care about the venezuelan people. Don't confuse a statement of the obvious that chubby chavo had the opportunity to bring all his people out of poverty, as he claims that over and over, afterall he is a socialist. Instead he stole and ransacked the countries one major resource. Yes USA buys your petro, but because of the lack of refineries, you import it back in gas. Presumably considering the current state he and his family personally gained. He himself is the devil in disguise. The people made their choice so who cares. I hope chubby is so large that his flames never end when he starts to burn in hell.....if even hell accepts him.
Feb 20th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Steve
Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhh! I remember you now, the one who throughs crap around but offers no solutions. 'Citizen of the planet' I believe? Pompous ass.
“I surely hope he lives long though, mostly because Chris' despair is palpable and extremely amusing.” Of course you do dear, of course you do. Keep taking the drugs.
You just cannot get over the fact that I know EXACTLY what you are can you.
And don't worry, you nemesis Anglotino will be along shortly to send you slinking off to whatever shit-hole you live in AGAIN.
#8 BAMF 51% is not a majority....or did you mean it is not a vast majority? Perhaps where you reside, 51% can radically change things but not in the USA. If the Federal gov passes a constitutional amendment, it takes 75% of the states to ratify it to become an amendment. I consider 75% a vast majority. But that is the constitution and not the general laws. The constitution sets the parameters of the general laws.
Feb 20th, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for individual rights....what do you consider an individual right? It is relative to the country that conveys them ....no? The right to complain about the government, the right to choose who I feel like voting for? The right to vote someone out of office? The USA is a Republic, which BTW is a form of democracy just as a Constitutional Monarchy is another form of democracy. I think you are reading too many MOBOCRACY websites.
We do in many areas have a purer form of democracy called TOWN GOVERNMENT in smaller communities. The USA has a federal level, state level and a local level gov that can be municipal or town. Small towns are still run be annual meetings and special meetings when all the town citizens turn out and vote on a series of questions, not representatives, but direct participation.
So the only fallacies are the ones you are typing. In 1776, the USA population was just under 3,000,000, please tell me how a pure democracy could be feasible? To think that after the Revolutionary War, the fear in the minds of the founding fathers was mob rule is absolutely ridiculous. Read some history, and consider the first ten amendments, AKA the BILL OF RIGHTS. Those where the fear of the founders.
And by the way, when FDR died the USA said never again, and made 8 years enough for one president. Hitler was not elected president, as chancellor, he merged the president and chancellor thus anointing himself president and chancellor.
#19 - I agree that the Constitution was written with the intention of preventing a rule of the majority (>50%) with the process of changing the constitution through amendments, however, consider what the Federal government does today. There is no more need to create amendments. An obvious example is the prohibition of drugs; why was it that prohibition and repealing of prohibition was done through amendments yet drugs are not? Simply put, the federal government has located methods to circumvent the need for constitutional amendments specifically because passing an amendment requires such a large majority.
Feb 20th, 2013 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The powers of the government have become concentrated within the federal level. When the federal government denies states funding for highways or other infrastructure because they refuse to adhere to the federal laws, or when a state like Colorado legalizes marijuana and the federal government vows to crack down, then you no longer have states' rights.
Yes the founding fathers were very worried about a large and powerful federal government, such as was stated by the 10th Amendment...Limits the powers of the federal government to those delegated to it by the Constitution. Now lawyers have come out and twisted the constitution to basically give the federal government unlimited power (and don’t tell me they don’t, because now our dear President can order the assassination of anyone that he deems dangerous).
The USA Constitution was the single most important document in history (to me), yet it has failed the test of time (it still has a chance, but doesn’t look good). I never feared the government when I lived in the USA, but when I go back now, I’m worried that I’ll be thrown in jail for simply living in a “terrorist” region. I no longer can trust the government to guarantee me a judicial process. I can be locked up without a trial. I can be condemned to death without a trial. I have no rights to privacy. Freedom of speech comes with fear of death or imprison
Chris
Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What on earth are you ranting about now? Seems moving to Uruguay didn't help you a bit, you are the same sad man that left the UK not that long ago. Sad and upset.
By the way, if you only knew who I am...
20 BAMF Paraguay
Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can only comment about the USA.
When I first went there on business some 40 years ago now, it was at the height of the Provisional IRA troubles in N. Ireland. I was disgusted at the monetary support for these terrorists and things got a bit heated in one bar when, in answer to a question would I contribute to their collection (in a non-Irish bar in Chicago) I told them to get real and see what these cowardly murderers were doing.
These people just did not get it because to them it was a ‘good thing’ to ‘free N. Ireland’. Not ONE of these stupid bastards had ever been there in person.
Now of course the Americans (in the form of the government) have been frightened to death that another 9/11 will happen unless they take these draconian measures. The call by the government, in the form of Homeland Security is typical of the tyrant and all the do-gooders of pressure groups that “we need this power to prevent these attacks – what if even ONE attack (one shooting) happens?”
America, in my opinion, has been hijacked by the government for ulterior motives. I can see that the NRA are going to lose and lose over this or some other mass murder because they are not addressing the real problem of the nutters in the American society: it is after all, far easier to ban this that and the other than have a system that sorts the nutters out.
In the UK the police have the power to go to the applicants doctor (because to get a shotgun or rifle you have to allow that in perpetuity) to determine if there are any mental health issues.
In Uruguay you have to undergo a psychiatric investigation to own a firearm.
In both countries it does not stop the criminals from obtaining any type of firearm AND using it, very often with total immunity.
But of course it makes the do-gooders feel as if they have done ‘something’ and the government advance down the path of preventing a ‘rebellion by the people’.
I have not been to America since the setting up of Homeland Se
Chillax, Bamf
Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you enter LEGALLY, you're fine, brosef. The US. is the most visited country on the planet.
In fact the U.S. and Sweden for example, gives PRIORITY for citizenship to Muslim countries w Al-Queda. Because asylum.
There's over a million Muslim-Americans. Iraqis & Afghanis are Sweden's 2nd & 3rd largest immigrant group. And Sweden's notoriously xenophobic, but principled about asylum.
In contrast, Paraguay and Argentina only get 100 U.S. citizen lottery slots each.
Chris
Feb 20th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Uruguay, in order to arm yourself, you not only need a psychiatric examination, but also a physical one. Furthermore, you need to present data on your income as well.
Not only that, after the transaction is made, all paperwork goes to the Ministry of Defense, where serial number, calibre, type and data on the buyer is written down.
This doesn't mean you can wear the weapon on your persona. You are allowed to transport it, but not wear it on you. For that you need a special permission.
All these laws have been implemented less than a year ago and I think it's rather ridiculous of you do dismiss it as pointless.
The problem in Uruguay are the existing firearms, something they offer amnesty for if they are turned in. The control is much welcomed.
24 Stevie
Feb 20th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was interesting.
So you are in Uruguay, I don’t think so? You would not tell me what country you live other 'than a citizen of the planet'. You have never met me or even know where I come from or my real name. You also show real errors about the new firearms law in Uruguay.
Fact: the controls were implemented over 3 years ago for target shooting. I am not talking of ‘arming myself’ in the manner you have addressed.
And it is obvious that there are ‘rules’ which are not applied because they have been recognised as being too restrictive.
Never heard about the physical exam. Income, etc so what.
BTW I do not dismiss 'control'. Read my post again without your hatred for me coming out, particularly my penultimate paragraph, which is absolutely true. Read the ORIGINAL UYU government reason for introducing these controls (not the law) if you do not believe me.
Chris
Feb 20th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been on this site long enough to know you are a British expat living in Uruguay to avoid taxes in the UK.
Or was it something about them stealing your pension?
Under those circumstances, you probably live in Colonia, Maldonado or Rocha, don't you?
The fact that you never heard of what I'm talking about does nothing else than prove my point.
You seem to think that the current government can solve all problems created by 180 years of feodalism -> capitalism -> neo-liberalism.
If it was for me, I'd rather se Zabalza ruling the nation. Not that I expect you to know who I'm talking about.
Stevie - Just remember this one simple thing...
Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There has been no greater threat to the lives of people than the government that rules over them.
Murders, car accidents, cancer, HIV, malaria, dengue, everything combined doesn't even come close to the amount of death caused by governments be it through war, starvation, ethnic cleansing or any other reason for simply killing people. Governments are dangerous, and an armed citizenry is the best method to keep the government in check.
Every single dictator/tyrant will first remove the weapons of its people to then proceed to control the population as they see fit.
BAMF
Feb 20th, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can understand you say that as a Paraguayan, but while the government is chosen by the people, a dictator is not.
Armed citizens are crucial to fight off a dictator, but in a democracy it will merely bring you more Sandy High's.
Should a dictator take power, I can assure you any resistance will know where and how to arm itself. Just take a look at your surrounding nations during their dictatorships.
26 Stevie
Feb 21st, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0So to summarize:
1) Still no admission of where YOU live but I am sure it is NOT Uruguay;
2) You have never met me nor go you know my real name;
3) You have no practical knowledge of applying for a firearm permit, though you think you know better than someone who has been in the process;
4) I have not left the UK to avoid taxes, I still pay tax in the UK and I pay tax on all my investments in Uruguay;
5) Not much of a guess which Department I live in as I have always stated I live on the coast;
6) I had great hopes for another Tupamaro – Pepe and he seemed to make a great start but his commie background has broken through well and truly and he has made some elemental blunders of late. So I do not agree with your recommendation for a ruler. What is it with these LatAms that they want ruling. Have they never heard od Democratic Leadership? Zabalza has at least got enough sense not to get involved with the leadership contest;
7) But what of you? Plenty of bluff and bravado in stating ‘facts’ which turn out to be nothing of the sort: nothing ever stated that cannot be got from the internet;
8) You are incapable of coming to a decision but prefer to state a number of topics, some of them confusing to say the least;
9) I would love to know how you can assure someone (BAMF Paraguay) about anything to do with ‘armed resistance’.
Chris
Feb 21st, 2013 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) What does it matter where I live?
2) What does it matter what your name is?
3) That's you guessing
4) Sure
5) All expats live either in Colonia, Rocha or Maldonado
6) I agree with you that Pepe has made some blunders of late, he's just too soft.
7) That something is available on the internet does not make it untrue.
8) Your difficulty for comprehending what I'm talking about has little to do with me.
9) I know you'd love to know.
#27 BAMF
Feb 21st, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think your statement regarding government should be qualified. In and by itself, one would get the impression you are speaking from a conspiratorial frame of mind.
t is an insult to the people of Venezuela that this pantomime continues.
Feb 22nd, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just how ill is he? Is he capable of governing the country?
The powers that be MUST tell the truth and as soon as possible.
He is dead....he does not even make the news anymore......finally a hasbeen, neverwas
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