MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands’ situation attracts attention from China involved in Far East Asia islands dispute
Interest in the Falkland Islands’ dispute with Argentina, assimilated to the current Senkakus/Diayous islands situation in Asia apparently has not been limited to the quotes made by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe before the Japanese Parliament but also in another minor experience precisely in the Falklands and involving the Editor of the Penguin News, the local weekly newspaper of the Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI have no idea what this article is banging on about, it's all a bit abstract for my poor wee brain but I have to say. Nice pic Lisa!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lovely Lisa
Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Large belligerent neighbour. Small democratic nation. China thinks it can browbeat Japan. Argieland thinks it can browbeat the Falkland Islands. Japan has large, powerful friend called the United States. Falkland Islands have a large, powerful friend called the United Kingdom. The United States has only, peripherally, fought China. The United Kingdom HAS fought argieland. And WON! The UK military capacity has INCREASED in the last 30 years. The argie military capacity has collapsed. The United Kingdom of Great Britain, Northern Ireland and South American colonies! Respect South American Amerindians. Turn the rest into serfs!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to know journalists from across the globe will be focussing on the Falklands for the forthcoming referendum. It's worth the trip just to see the lovely Lisa methinks!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's good to know the japanese premier recognises mrs thatch was doing the right thing and if he believes the same of his cause, go to the ICJ, call China's bluff.
Pathetic and pitiful!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have no idea of life. It really is very egocentric. She believes that the referendum is the center of the world. You think the world is awaiting the British islanders. He believes that all conflicts are the same. Never suffered humanitarian bombing civilians carried out by the UK in Libya, Afghanistan and Iraq
“If the situation in the Falklands could be compared with that between Japan and China by a group of islands, and I did feel those countries could learn from the situation Malvinas”.
That pride, it shows a total lack of conflict. He has no idea of the historical and social processes. May be aware that there are United Nations resolutions on decolonization committee. Rather, she would have to learn how the British withdrew from Hong Kong and study how the Decolonization Committee of the United Nations is struggling against colonialism, racism and imperialism in the 21st century English.
They note that the publisher of the Penguin News is manipulating and she does not realize. shameful.
4 Musky
With your mindset, Japan is very pleased to be defeated by the United States and England and being bombarded by two nuclear bombs. pathetic and shameful opinion.
@5 Musky
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem upset about something?
Is it the inflation in Argentina? The fact that prices keep rising, despite the insane measures put in place by your even more insane President?
That's right, cling onto the only thing you have left. A fairy tale about a group of mythical islands that have only ever existed in the imagination of Argentina.
Fool yourself into believing that if you could somehow gain these mythical islands then all of your problems would magically disappear.
But in the real world, if Argentina has a valid sovereignty claim to the Falkland Islands, then I suggest you take it to the International Court of Justice, the ONLY body in the world that could force the UK to give up sovereignty.
Come on Raul. If Argentina's claim is so solid you should go. The ICJ would surely find in your favour, wouldn't they?
I mean lets look at the evidence that Argentina has:
Settlers evicted....oh wait, no that was an illegal military presence.
Inherited...oh wait, no Spain didn't leave you the Falklands in their will, besides such claims are not recognised in international law.
Territorial integrity...oh wait, the Falklands have NEVER been a part of Argentina, so that won't wash.
Proximity...oh wait, that's just a complete load of bollocks.
Birds flying from Argentina to the Falklands...oh wait, that really is the most insane thing your President has ever said (don't bring that one up the judges would laugh you out of court).
And finally...oh wait, that's it, you have nothing else at all.
No wonder you won't go to court, you know you'd be laughed at and humiliated on the international stage, AND you make believe world would be ripped from your eyes, and the world would tell you to STFU about it.
Regarding the article though, it is interesting, but comparisons are irrelevant. Those islands in the South China Seas have never been inhabited by people. The Falkland Islands community is 180+ years old.
If “lovely Lisa” was ugly would that render her opinion worthless?
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British withdrew from Hong Kong because their lease expired. Trust me. without the legal obligations of a lease the UK would still be there.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Colonial Imperialism in the 21C? this only exists in the minds of you people who have thought it up as an excuse to seize territory that does not belong to you.
Colonial Imerialism? Why weren't you shouting colonial imperialism at the top of your voices in 82?
6 LEPRecon
Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you live in Argentina?
@5 Raul
Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure how you make the association WW2 and my opinion.
Argentina pursues a colonialist approach when it tries to acquire land that was never theirs. Argentina simply won't go to the ICJ because it knows its claim is weak, it lost integrity when it failed to abide by the ICJ ruling on the Beagle Channel islands. It has no legal means to acquire the Falklands, britain holds all the cards, the UN charter, historical records (held on both sides) and international law. You guys have blind faith on this matter and it does not look good for you.
The referendum is a trump card and it's about time it was played.
@7 Bongo
Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She's not lovely because she's a hottie. She's lovely because every day she is told on twitter she is a pirate whore and a liar. And (almost,) never lets it bother her.
That's why Lisa is Lovely. Patience of a saint.
Do you live in Argentina?
Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12
Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Thank God
Raul:
Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ It really is very egocentric”
She is not making the parallel. People in China and Japan are drawing the parallel.
The Japanese PM quoted Thatcher recently in a speech about keeping the oceans free and open.
15 Sussie. I think you mean the Japanese islands!. How are you, still hiding in USA?
Feb 28th, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Falkland Islands: U.S. Should Support Right To Self-Determination'
Feb 28th, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.eurasiareview.com/28022013-falkland-islands-u-s-should-support-right-to-self-determination-oped/
@3
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Large warmonger far away power: UK.
Small democratic nation: Argentina.
The large warmonger far away power insists of controling part of the small democratic nation´s territory by trying to make the small democratic nation respect the wishes of part of the large warmonger far away power´s population.
The large warmonger far away power´s attempt to use a meaningless referendum to let part of its population decide they want to keep their links with the large warmonger far away power in part of the small democratic nation´s territory is most likely to fail.
The UN has already taken a position. The territory where part of the large warmonger far away power´s population have settled is not part of the large warmonger population but is a territory in a special colonial situation since the population is occupying a territory in dispute. The UN has already indicated the large warmonger far away nation has to negotiate with the small democratic nation to settle the dispute peacefully. instead of insisting on the militarization of the territory.
The large warmonger far away power´s closest ally takes no position over the dispute and supports negotiations as the proper way to solve the dispute.
The meaningless referendum is a big failure for the large warmonger far away power.
@16 That arcticle is a lie after a lie.
Jesus christ, you lost a war, get over it!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not the good guys I'm afraid.
@18 That´s what usualy happens when small democratic nations fight a war against large warmonger powers.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 1833´s warmonger´s business were bad
7 Bongo
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To paraphrase:
“If “lovely Lisa” was an ATHEIST would that render her opinion worthless?”
You have still to answer my question why you think atheists do not have a brain.
I am really waiting to find out.
You mean like when 10.000 Argentines attack 74 Royal Marines! Could not agree with you more, yet you still manage to lose.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However as a “good profession” and appealing to a “vast experience”, particularly from storming Argentine media trying to get on record the non precise word about the ongoing Falklands/Malvinas sovereignty dispute, Ms. Watson was able to avoid calling the Argentinean president for a “bi*sh” again.....
Well done, Ms. Lisa Watson.......
You are a beacon for blondes all over....
23. But think KFC is a bitch! :)
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 05 Raul
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The islands and Hong Kong are two entirely different legal entities. The UK holds the legal sovereignty of islands, while Argentina has pretensions to them. Hong Kong was a ninety-nine year year lease from China. When the lease was over it was returned to its lawful owner. The Decolonization Committee of the United Nations is not struggling against colonialism, racism and imperialism in the 21st century. In fact it endorses Argentines colonial claims, which is not its remit, so it is a though-rely discredited entity. It has no lawful powers, it can only issue advisements.
17 Islas Malvinas
The referendum is legally binding, and Argentina has acquiesced to it by legally not apposing it, so its fait accompli. The legal position on self-determination, according to the ICJ is:
ICJ judge, Dame Rosalyn Higgins, wrote: ”Attractive an aphorism though [self-determination] is, it still has to be said that the territorial issue does come first. Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have a right to self- determination” (Dame Rosalyn Higgins, Problems and Process - International Law and How We Use It, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1994)
She also assigns sovereignty thus:
The British jurist Rosalyn Higgins arrived at a similar conclusion when she pointed out: “No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.80”
80. Rosalyn Higgins, ”Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.
Stink the supertroll has reappeared. Usual nonsensical rubbish. There is no dispute, there will only be a dispute if you take yourselves the IJC, which you won't because you know you will lose. Anyway you will lose on the 12th May anyway.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We know there are sensible Rgs will they please appear and raise the level of discussion.
@17 Islas
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you give any more examples of a “small democratic nation” led by a military dictatorship notorious for disappearing its own citizens?
@26
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not that I really care about this topic, but why do you Brits always call anyone who does not agree 100% with your world view “trolls”? I see it everywhere, not just here.
Quite the democratic people, you. I suggest you look up that word in a picture dictionary.
28 _INTROLLREGNVM_
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's funny because whenever an Argentine disagrees with my view, i get called a pirate or a colonist. And i've never set foot on a ship in my life.
Rubbish point, really.
@26
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is something of a difference between disagreeing and trying to ignore the human Rights of our people.
@25
Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has acquiesced to it? Ha ha ha
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/12/01/unasur-summit-rejects-falklands-referendum-and-wants-to-limit-vulture-funds
“Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have a right to self- determination”
You said it yourself. The referendum is meaningless.
@21 ChrisR
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why change the entire meaning of my post? Not a very intelligent thing to do.
“Lovely Lisa” IS an atheist. She has stated this on her Twitter account.
I was making the point that, in the West at least, attractive people often carry more clout than ugly ones. MrFlagpole @11 understood this and gave a good response. Lisa is, indeed, abused terribly on Twitter and takes most of it in her stride.
And you wonder why I don't think you have a brain?
@INTROLLREGNVM we call you all trolls because you have to TOW the Kirchner line you are filled with propoganda from an early age and you are now ruled by a woman whose principle is MY WAY OR NO WAY would you not agree????
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No UNASUR is meaningless, no clout ouitside of South America.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whereas the referendum as legality under the charter of the UN,
and, oh my god this endless repetition is getting so boring!
Ban Ki Moons own words.
@Raul, why are you asking if someone lives in Argentina?? Most of The Argentine trolls/supporters do not live in Argentina there familys fled looking for a better life else where.=SAD
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 Why do you matter so much about UNASUR not clouting outside South America when Malvinas are inside South America?
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas, where are they then?
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 they are where UNASUR clouts
Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Islas Malvinas, There are no such Islands as Malvinas though there are some Islands which are British Overseas Territorys located in The South Atlantic,where are you located???
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Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There will be alot of interest in this referendum much to the distaste of Crissy The Rat Kirchner, The Islanders might need to recruit some low paid jobs out to poor Argentines but there will be one consolation the pay will be around $7 per hour and not PER DAY like they have to live on in Argentina.
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Feb 28th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islas Malvinas
Feb 28th, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly your argument is fundamentally flawed.
You seem to be an “1833 Malvinista”. There are several other types of Malvinista, and I am sure, like them, you hop between being each one as your argument is destroyed.
We have “Papal Bull Malvinistas”, “Inheritted from Spain Malvinistas”, “Jewitt Malvinistas” “1833 Malvinistas” “Geography Malvinistas” “It wasn't us in 1982 Malvinistas” and finally “UN Resolution Malvinista”.....all of them are bollocks, but as you brought up 1833, let me remind you what happened.
Vernet (Franco-German) and his deputy Brisbane (British) set up an independent business with 20 or so employees with the blessing of both Buenos Aires and London. This community was present on the islands from 1828 and no member of it was ever forcibly removed by the British.
A United Provinces ship the Sarandi set sail in October 1832 to claim the islands and start a penal colony. This was a 50 strong group made up of a militia under Esteban Mestevier, some deportees, a few conscripts and the families of the crew. Britain immediately complained at this attempted colonisation of the islands.
Between their arrival in November 1832 and January 6th 1833, the militia mutineed, murdered Mestevier and raped his wife in front of their children. (I note you consider these “the good guys”
When Captain Onslow arrived in January 1833, he ordered that the newly arrived militia vacated the islands. Not a single shot was fired, nobody was hurt, and nobody was forcibly evicted from their home..they'd been there less than 2 months!!
This is not warmongering.
However, an example of warmongering was when your “small democratic nation-Argentina” LOL....attacked the islands in 1982 causing the death of 900 people, evicting folk from their homes and trying to destroy a population.
Another example of warmongering might be a disgraceful colonial genocide that your “small democratic nation” inflicted during your usurption of Patagonia.
What a loser you are
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Feb 28th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 err because you are trolls and as soon as you get found out you change you names ie SussieUs has about six names and still can't disguise who she is cos she's thick as fook, Think is actually guzz and a few others and so on and so on, I reckon a nuclear defence programme built 100% in rgenweener is needed ; )
Feb 28th, 2013 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“””Vernet (Franco-German) and his deputy Brisbane (British) set up an independent business with 20 or so employees with the blessing of both Buenos Aires and London. This community was present on the islands from 1828 and no member of it was ever forcibly removed by the British.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A United Provinces ship the Sarandi set sail in October 1832 to claim the islands and start a penal colony. This was a 50 strong group made up of a militia under Esteban Mestevier, some deportees, a few conscripts and the families of the crew. Britain immediately complained at this attempted colonisation of the islands.
Between their arrival in November 1832 and January 6th 1833, the militia mutineed, murdered Mestevier and raped his wife in front of their children. (I note you consider these “the good guys”
When Captain Onslow arrived in January 1833, he ordered that the newly arrived militia vacated the islands. Not a single shot was fired, nobody was hurt, and nobody was forcibly evicted from their home..they'd been there less than 2 months!!
This is not warmongering.
However, an example of warmongering was when your “small democratic nation-Argentina” LOL....attacked the islands in 1982 causing the death of 900 people, evicting folk from their homes and trying to destroy a population.
Another example of warmongering might be a disgraceful colonial genocide that your “small democratic nation” inflicted during your usurption of Patagonia.“”“””
+1
China will watch like a hawk
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And CFK will drop dead with frustration,
The point is,
Did not that picture of a beautiful young lady cheer us all up,
100 times better looking than CFK.
.
32 Bongo
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This was the first time I have seen your tag since then and I am pleased to see the this lovely lady has the courage to face life for her own sake and use her intelligence accordingly. I am confident that this outlook on life ensures she is not at all worried by the stupid argie comments.
And then you wonder why, given your god delusion, I consider you are the brainless one?
@28
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not at all, most countries can have reasoned debate like adults. There are plenty of countries where we have differences of opinions yet still manage to enjoy what we have in common. This is how Britain manages to figure in the Commonwealth, the UN, the EU, NATO and have disagreements but on the whole be an active contributor.
You however are a troll. Either that or an imbecile.
A troll talks complete shit to try and illicit a response, an imbecile talks complete shit because he is stupid enough to believe it.....which are you?
I like the “I'm entitled to my opinion, victim, defence” it suits you.
P.S.
You never did answer my question on a previous thread. You claim to want complete isolationism for Argentina. you claim Argentina is superior, you claim Europe, North America etc are terrible and of no use.
My question is this:
Imagine one of your immediate family has a life threatening disease. imagine the cure is either a British or US discovery, a British or US development or only available in Britain or the US....what do you do Nostril??
Do you destroy you entire belief system, swallow that completely pathetic misplaced pride of yours and seek help from wherever it can be had. Or do you watch a loved on die, rather than face what a pathetic paranoid twat you've been?
Only asking ...?
Lisa is a stunner... quite pretty... That aside I think you people spend far too much time bickering about nonsensical items and just try to wind each other up... Most should realise by now that the Argentines are a entirely neurotic society... my recollection at least... corruption runs rampant and very deep... people always trying to screw one another for the stupidest reasons... the most important thing going on is the football ... heaven forbid that someone's team might lose... they become catatonic ... loan me money and don't ask me to pay it back... re culiados que son.. lastima!!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 - Monkeymagic
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias/Nostril always avoids answering.
He's always shouting what have the Europeans and USA (Romans!) ever done for us!
To which the answer is usually things like:
Vaccines.
Antibiotics.
Anaesthetics.
Antiseptics.
Radiology.
Plastic surgery.
Computers.
Internet.
Television.
Telephones (including mobiles/cell phones).
Radio.
Cars.
Trains.
Planes.
Ocean liners and other sailing vessels.
Satellites orbiting the Earth.
Engineering feats (too many to mention).
Medical innovations (too many to mention).
And the list goes on, and he goes quiet for a while, then pipes up on another thread.
This story, however, is interesting, but parallels cannot really be drawn between the Falklands and the islands in the south china sea, as those islands have never been inhabited.
@51 LEPRecon
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And last but absolutely not least... an Argentine favourite...
FOOTBALL
@47 she is stunning, no botox or anything
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0who was it that brought FOOTBALL to the argentine??? hmm was it River Plate or possibly it was Boca Juniors... ooooo!!
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lisa watson can have our vote.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@53 and the campora spineless crew screaming down the phone at her at all times of the day or night, don't seem to have affected her beauty sleep.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe one day they'll grow a brain between them, and realise that antagonising an influential figure in the FI's will not actually help their case. But hinder it, massively.
Actually no, they never will, they never will get it will they.
Ah
Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But when the day comes, and the Falklanders go to the polls,
The world will be watching,
But,
Will CFK show the referendum on Argentina TV ,
Or distract them with channels of Evita .lol.
.
17...jajajaja warmonger Argentina 40 million invaded a small island with 3000 souls
Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think before you post
@6 LEPRecon
Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0U R pretty wrong, and this is the true about ICJ and why Argentina was refused the UK's proposed goo.gl/HRUoJ
@59 4quk (#)
Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:10 pm
What? How to not fry a turkey on YouTube?
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Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/ban-ki-moon-addresses-the-2013-decolonization-committee/
Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... and having been told to get involved with the NSGT's they promptly vote to meet in ... Ecuador! ha ha ha
48 ChrisR
Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HHHHHeasy naww Chris!!!
Let's just leave Bongo alone so he can follow his sexist, homophobic, narrowminded relegion. After all, he's the one going to Heaven don't you know? He's the one who is going to be saved!! even though doesn't it preach in the bible that “God is all forgiving” and that “All things serve the Lord”??
I think that there is a bit of “Animal Farm” in the bible you know? ( The George Orwell book!! Not the fantasyBlue film!!! Minds out of gutters please!! )
You know?? Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others!!
But leaving those reflections aside: “it was reassuring that the visiting journalists appeared to view the referendum as part of a viable process forward; a process that might potentially offer clarity to other countries that deal with comparable situations. And despite the Argentine government protestations that the really quite hefty gang of press visiting next month will be broadcasting nothing more than an illegal stunt, it appears that not everyone agrees”, concludes Lisa Watson’s editorial, 22 February.
Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
who cares!uk is FINISHED!
64 Malvinero1
Mar 01st, 2013 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0WOW!!!! when you pick a lost cause, you really commit to it don't you??
Now why don't you and your terminal stupidity go and hang out somewhere else for a while huh?
@64 Malvinero1 (#)
Mar 01st, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:58 pm
Mad as a hat full of spoons.
You know what though Malvy Baby? You might just be right. Over the next couple of years the UK may seize the chance to go independent and break away from the EU and I sincerely hope we do. But. And it is a big but. We might miss that chance and become ever more subsumed into the new European Empire they call the EU. If that happens then I too believe that the UK may well be finished.
The FI on the other hand will just be beginning.
Suck on that.
66 Furry-Fat-Feck
Mar 01st, 2013 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Mad as a hat full of spoons” LOL Love that one but I thought it was “Mad as a box of Frog's” Oh well..............
In a slightly deluded way, I look forward to Malvy-baby's ramblings as comic relief from the stresses of my day. He does so add comic relief to this forum.
I agree with you on the EU. We have been in it long enough now. We have tried to show the rest of Europe the way but they are deaf to our teachings......It's time to leave now. I certainly do not want my everyday life to be governed by those corrupt fat cats in Brussels.
I prefer my everyday life to be governed by those corrupt fat cats in Westminster. That way, at least I get a say in which Corrupt Fat cats govern me .
Lisa Watson“ I had only the vaguest idea of the conflict to which they referred”
Mar 01st, 2013 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Airhead blond and British.
31 Islas Malvinas
Mar 01st, 2013 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0The referendum is not meaningless as the UK holds sovereignty the islanders legally are entitled to self-determination. Former president of the ICJ stated that the UK held sovereignty over the islands:
“No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.80”
80. Rosalyn Higgins, ”Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.
and
...Great Britain has acquired title to the Islands by extinctive prescription. Argentina did not take advantage of the available international bodies for peaceful adjudication of the disputed title. ... ...The claim of Argentina can be summarily dismissed if the conclusions concerning the competing claims to sovereignty are accepted. If Great Britain has attained sovereignty over the Islands, the Argentine claim to sovereignty is not a bar to the application of the principle of self-determination.... ...Great Britain’s claim, therefore, is supported by factors that are in accordance with the general purpose of the principle of self-determination and is in conformance with the past practice of the United Nations’ decolonization process.
The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain by James Francis Gravelle
and
...Argentina protested, and for a time these protests were effective in blocking Britain's claim to sovereignty by extinctive prescription, had not changing political circumstances intervened. The establishment of the World Courts, initially as the Permanent Court of International Justice and later as the Internationa Court of Justice (ICJ), changed the situation so that diplomatic protests were no longer sufficient to keep alive Argentina's claim of sovereignty. In order to avoid extinguishing its claim, Argentina should have resorted to the ICJ rather than cont
68 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 01st, 2013 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0KFC / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy.............. Nothing to say, nothing to do, except robbing her countrymen.
25% inflation
Argentine assets impounded all across the world
Government the laughing stock of the UN
Son, a poster boy for a condom advert.
Yeah, as you can see, KFC is doing so much better........................
# 17 “Small democratic nation: Argentina.”
Mar 01st, 2013 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is small on democratic principles as well as being a small nation. As far as 'warmongering' goes, Argentina is the only party in this dispute who has invaded the Islands twice in recent history, the last attempt, in 1982, involved Argentina deploying a massive military force (there words at the time) into the South Atlantic to take on a force of 40 RMs. Argentina is the country who refused to obey the UN security council resolution to withdraw and then proceeded to pour more military forces and hardware into the Islands (all to no avail).
So who is the warmonger Carlos? Who is the country that first militarised the South Atlantic? Hypocrites!
@62 - Interesting article. I note their enthusiasm with regard to New Caledonia moving to a critical phase of self-determination - through a referendum - in co-operation with France. My thoughts then turn to the Falkland Islands and - double take - I realise this is exactly what is already happening. I think the committee will be delighted with the FI's progress.
Mar 01st, 2013 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@68 I wouldn't be so quick to judge, given you have only the vaguest knowledge of the facts behind your countries ongoing unilateral conflict with the people of the Falkland Islands.
@68 Marcos,
Mar 01st, 2013 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know Lisa, Marcos?
She is far from being an airhead.
btw-the feminine term for blond, is blonde.
You're a pretty good airhead, Marcos.
69 continued
Mar 01st, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0-inuing to protest. The fact of the matter was that Argentina never submitted its claim to the Court for judgment, Its failure to do so, to take advantage of the requirements prescribed by international law, has quietly ceded sovereignty to Britain by extinctive prescription...
The Falkland War : Britain versus the past in the South Atlantic /by Daniel K. Gibran
Lisa just goes to show, everything that is beautiful and pretty about being British.
Mar 01st, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mmm
Still,
CFK is her very own Barbie doll, is she not.
.
@5,9,12 How pathetic you are. When will your mummy let you wear long trousers? Or will it be a skirt?
Mar 01st, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17,20,31,36,38 Thanks for letting us know the slant that the criminal argie “government” is putting on this. It's obviously very easy to peddle crap to brainwashed morons. If you carefully watch my right hand, I'll tell you later what I did with my left hand. For my next trick, I'm going to steal your underpants.
@23 Did you say something? Was it of note? Thought not!
@28 I looked up “troll” in a picture gallery. Gnarled, bent, misshapen, ugly creatures. Looks like you!
@64 Coming to get you. Watch the seas. Watch the skies. Argieland is headed for Armageddon. Will it come from the north? The south? The east? The west? All possible. Wouldn't it be funny if argieland's demise was fired from the antarctic territory that argieland illegally “claims”. Poetic justice, eh?
@68 What would it matter to you? You “believe” what your “government” tells you. Do you ever ask for evidence? How about ignoring any “evidence” that comes from argieland? If ALL “sources” agree, isn't that most likely to be the truth? Here's a thought. INDEC figures are always less than 50% of the truth. Tell you anything, moron?
@32 Bongo
Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I was making the point that, in the West at least, attractive people often carry more clout than ugly ones.”
That is not the only reason Lisa's statements carry more clout than CFK's
;-D
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Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@78 goodnight sussie
Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0More like south georgia there was a japanese fish canning factory on the islands between the wars. Then america too it off them but gave it back as apprantly useless.
Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kicked into high gear again when the Japanese goverment brought it off the former owner who had plans to develop a “screw you china” theme park.
Not only are there resources around the is
Ands but it also blocks ready access of china to the pacific.
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Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@78,81
Mar 03rd, 2013 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Sussie” posts again.
Moderators, please remove these.
Thank you.
83 Bipolar Obama
Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 083 Bipolar Obama
In your humble and uninformed opinion, you make assertions about her qualifications to write without actually knowing what qualifications she holds. This coming from an individual who uses the word 'don't' incorrectly in the place of 'does not' or 'doesn't'. What ever her intelligence is it appears to be light years ahead of yours.
@83 hi sussie
Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@83bi-polar Obama
Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hello, Moderators.
This posting @83, is another offensive “Sussie” persona.
Would you please have it removed.
Thanks, again.
I am very pleased that the Chinese news crew are in the Falkland Islands ahead of the Referendum next week. It shows that despite Argentina's numerous attempts to belittle the Referendum, or to smoother the result as illegitimate, major nations around the world are interested in the outcome.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 01:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not surprised that the Chinese showed interest. The Senkakus/Diaoyu/Tiaoyutai islands dispute goes back to the 19th Century & all three claimants, China/Japan/Taiwan believe that they have sovereignty.
The parallel with the Falklands is that there are believed to be oil deposits nearby. However, it is also attracting a great deal of nationalistic fervour in all three countries. There have even been riots were Japanese companies/advertising has been attacked by angry Chinese mobs.
China believes that their claim super-cedes the Taiwan claim (as the Chinese also claim Taiwan), but as in the Falklands dispute, the United States played a key pivotal role.
I'm also not surprised that Lisa did not know much about the Senkakus/Diaoyu/Tiaoyutai islands dispute. Unless you watch a lot of television news, or are interested in international relations & potential super-power flashpoints, then you might not know about them.
The Senkakus/Diaoyu/Tiaoyutai islands were also subjected to invasions where civilians planted flags & sang national anthems, but as the Islands are very small, it's very unlikely that they could be populated without constant re-supply.
The Senkakus/Diaoyu/Tiaoyutai dispute is one of three major super-power flashpoints. The others are Syria & Iran. Syria will be over soon enough. al-Assad will fall, just as Gaddafi did. As for Iran, I doubt that they have much longer. If they don't give in to the IAEA demands to stop their weapons programme, then the Israelis will obliterate the country with a massive first strike. There won't be any Iran worth recovering. The country will glow in the night as a monument to all fools. A reminder to the fools of Buenos Aires.
@87,
Mar 04th, 2013 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shut up crazy soozy. Go get some fresh batteries for your vibrator.
Then go to sleep.
Rather ridiculous to criticize Lisa when she runs a very successful business. The Penguin News maybe the only paper for 3,000 people, but it fills a very important role, because that community is spread over a very large territory.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you should be criticising the 'Bitch' who has put Argentina in such a terrible economic mess. The Bitch who is trying to distract you with further idiotic claims about the Falklands. Argentina has yet to supply proof that any nuclear submarines were in the South Atlantic, yet alone any SSBNs carrying nuclear weapons. The problem is that the Bitch has been lying again and this time it was far too obvious that she was lying.
What economic mess?
Mar 05th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is growing.
If tired of these trolls trying to deny basic truths.
The UK is broke and can't even defend its homeland.
Malvinas are an easy target.
she is smiling telling everyone how bitchy she is
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0better say poor bitchy no money
@17
Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Large warmonger far away power: UK.
Small democratic nation: Argentina.”
You don't do Geography well do you?
Argentina has a far bigger landmass than the UK , but more valuable items come in smaller sizes-diamonds are more valuable than bricks.
UK the warmonger? Fascist Argentina started the 1982 war.
after the 1982 invasion the UK established “diplomatic” relations with argie land......for what?
Mar 06th, 2013 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0the brits don't have nothing to do!
lol
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