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Brazil opens naval shipyard to build conventional submarines and eventually a nuclear powered one
Brazil advanced toward its target of joining the small club of nations that have nuclear-powered submarines with the opening of a naval shipyard installation that will build French-designed submarines. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI dont understand!
Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Based on the RG arguement about Brits nuclearising the South Atlantic, and that that is not allowed, will the Brasilian Nuclear Sub will only be able to sail north?
Neuclear 'powered'
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not 'neuclear 'armed' mate.
Kinda like the Trafalgar and Astute classes of SSN (which might be near to the Falkland Islands, which has Argentina virtually wetting itself) rather than the Vanguard class SSBN (which almost certainly wouldn't - aside from anything else, the British nuclear deterrent would only be used to retaliate against a nuclear attack on the UK and aside from the South-East of the USA there are no nuclear powers within range of the Falkland Islands).
Mar 04th, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina start screaming about the potential presence of British SSNs, then they should be screaming with far greater ferocity about the potential certainty of Brazilian SSNs.
Standby for another screaming fit from TMBOA. :o)
Mar 04th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Why would she scream? She wants her own nuclear-powered sub. Unfortunately, the argies don't know how to build subs. And they don't know how to put nuclear power in them. Last I heard the argies were hoping to convert a diesel-electric submarine. Unfortunately, all the ones they've got have holes in them. And if they don't have holes now, we'll make sure they do have soon! Same goes for Brazilian subs. Can't have dumb latinos in charge of anything that might be dangerous.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, agreed. British and all military countries get out from SA.....and very well. The Brasilian Navy is from defense......Peace Army. We don't go to Tamisa River. Peace, man. Don't be inconsequently.
Brasileiro, I'm guessing you are using something like google translate as that doesn't make much sense.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Conqueror, a little respect for Brazilian's please they haven't done nothing but be polite to the UK and we have a number of initiatives with them. It's clear any sub built by Brazil would be at least twenty years in design behind the UK's subs so hardly a threat.
It will be interesting to see if Argentina responds, if it does not then we know they are outright hypocrites.
I personally see no issues with Brazil continuing to advance itself as a nation, its economically performed very well over the recent years even if it looks to be in a economic slow down now.
Good luck to them!
Where is Think?
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here we have the answer to one of his questions.
He only asked this the other day...
“”My final question is....:
Does anybody know a Country currently using hunders of billions of £££
developing, constructing and manning super expensive Aircraft Carriers and super expensive Atomic Submarines?
Chuckle chuckle“”
Yep. It would seem the answer is... your next door neighbor!
Love it.
PS: don't worry, Dilma said it was only for “defense” and “peace missions”.
@7 Xect
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your education with me. Yes, google translator.
Is this why CFK wanted and still does, a military alliance with brazil.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0,,,
CFK will never stop,
perhaps when she finaly wakes up, that she wont get the falklands,
perhaps certain wobbly friends next to her,
should in fact start to watch their backs.
WOW. Briton, my friend, you come back. My pleasure.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They do say the grass is greener in the next field,
Mar 04th, 2013 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Therefore CFK should be replaced by a modern lawnmower,
She can spend her final days mowing over it.
Lolol.
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Just what Brazil needs, another ridiculously expensive government program that will waste huge sums of public money for very little return. Sure like Brazil or any other developing country can afford to borrow 4 billion bucks for a submarine that at best can only patrol a minute part of their vast ocean. What a waste of money and what an inept government, way to go comrade Dilma.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UK nuclear subs are a joke. 2 or 3 P3-Orions are enough to counter that crap.
Mar 04th, 2013 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 olibeira (#)
Mar 05th, 2013 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0and what are you on about? the astutes are awesome
My god, what an idiot olibeira is.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly an 'air head' with no idea what she is talking about.
British subs crap?
Managed to sink the Belgrano though, using the old Mk8 torpedos though.
LOL.
P3 orions have no chance of finding an Astute believe me, anyway rgenweener has 6 so we can safely say that 5 will be inoperable so that fooks up that plan dickhead
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0•Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Exploración (EA6E) (Exploration naval Sqd) : Lockheed P-3B Orion
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And you only have 4 (four) serviceable!
Our Astute class boats can actually destroy your P3's and any other anti-sum aircraft while they are still on the ground, with the crew eating their lunch.
Astute class carry Tomahawk cruise missiles you see, - So basically even one of our small 'hunter-killer' boats could (and would) Royally Fcuk the ARA aircraft
@18 they say they have 4 servicable which probably means one
Mar 05th, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think you could be right....
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#14
Mar 06th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0A comment from our military genius again.
The Astute class hunter killers are the top of the class in the world. So what you are saying is that ALL nuclear submarines are crap. So why are Brasil so keen to acquire something that could be sunk by a few aged P-3's ?
You don't have to believe me. Check on the web in RESPECTED sites on naval/submarine capabilities. You may have to alter your opinions which are biased to a hatred of all thing British. Apart from that, keep on posting. It gives us an innate feeling of superiority when we read your drivel.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment223037: Why should Argentina object to Brazilian submarines? After all Brazil is not an aggressor nation.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22;
Mar 06th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nor is the UK.
Argentina is though.
@22
Mar 06th, 2013 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Why should Argentina object to Brazilian submarines? After all Brazil is not an aggressor nation.”
Correct.
Argentina should not object and they should not object to British submarines that may or may not be in international waters either.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment224017: Considering that the UK is occupying Argentinian territory it is not possible to characterize it as anything else but an aggressor nation.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not argentinian territory though is it?
Mar 07th, 2013 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0So no, not aggressors.
Invading sovreign territory of another country as did argentina on 2nd April 1982? Well, that might be construed to ba an 'aggresive' act might it not?
#25
Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Peddling the same old broken record. “I say it so it MUST be true ”
@25
Mar 07th, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since when were international waters part of Argentine territory?
The fact that so many Argies think like you is why we maintain a modern army, navy and airforce on this side of the Andes.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment224280: Staying on the subject of Argentina's response to Brazil's submarines, Brazil is not occupying territory that Argentina considers its own. But the UK does. Hence Argentina's response to Brazil is different to its response to the UK.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's getting a lot of practice at 'concidering' the Falklands to be their own territory.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The whole thing is getting pretty boring now with nothing but politicians and rhetoric.
I wish the Argentine military would just do their job, be defeated again, and then the poloticians would shut up for a while and give all of us some peace and quiet.
#29
Mar 07th, 2013 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Finally we can agree on something. Argentina CONSIDERS the Falklands as their territory. However, this does not make it factually correct.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment224405: I think it must be plain, even to you, that there will be no war over Las Malvinas. What will happen is that the UK will consider Las Malvinas to be Argentinian territory and return them.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32;
Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, things that are plain to somebody like you, are not to those of us with a free thinking mind.
Are you a 'Creationist' by any chance? Because you (all) have that same mind-set as religious fundimentalists who refuse to believe the world is more than 10,000 years old.
Your have this malvinas myth installed in you, and I know there is nothing that can be done to cure you. You have my pity.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment224651: Possibly you should apply that free thinking mind to the problem of the future, how it may unfold and the UK's position in that evolution.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trust me, we are, all of us 'free thinkers' the world over.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment225060: We? How many have you got in there?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#36
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the current count, about 60 million plus.
How many have you ?
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/04/brazil-opens-naval-shipyard-to-build-conventional-submarines-and-eventually-a-nuclear-powered-one#comment225339: 60 million. I think you should commit you self immediately!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0#37
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you had a command of the English language and posted with references to the person you are replying to, SUCH AS #35 you would maybe understand !!
My reply was to your question“how many free thinkers do you have”. The answer 60 million + or- in the UK.
Your lack of clarity in your posts can lead to ambiguity.
Did you mean submarines or free thinkers - I can quote exactly for nuclear subs. and approximately for free thinkers. !
lol Clyde hepitits never directs her posts to the one it is anwsering. WQould be nice to not see the link of the same post it is posting on as well.
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