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Young Falkland Islanders’ voice their views
By Harold Briley - Circuited well in advance of their historic referendum on their future, a booklet voicing the views of the post-invasion generation of Islanders is a vital part of the new Falkland Islands campaign to explain their case internationally. In this contribution to the referendum debate, MercoPress takes a more comprehensive look at their attitudes. Read full article
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Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/11/12/un-confirms-that-britain-is-not-in-breach-of-reseolutions-over-the-falklands/
Keep it up lads and lassies. Its YOUR country
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are entitled to live in peace, and enjoy the life you want,
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0without the threats from the evil CFK ,
enjoy what you have rightly earned.
and good luck.
Good on you keep it up ignore the rhetoric and ranting from rgenweener
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's your Island, your home, we are going to help make sure it stays that way.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These young Islanders want to preserve the Falklands community.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They recognise & honour the sacrifice made by our servicemen to liberate the Islands in 1982 & the continued work to keep them free. We must do our part to ensure that their rights of self-determination are preserved.
Argentina will never take the Falklands. The Islands belong to the Islanders forever.
How could anybody recommend that the cesspit of argieland be allowed to intrude on, never mind control, these people and their community. I hope that if British forces are asked, once again, to travel to the Islands and expel the shit from the “mainland”, they will feel proud. British men and women of our armed forces need to understand that they will not only be defending the defenceless but standing against the barbarian genocides of latam. Ladies and gentlemen, please remember your history. Those who fought at Corunna, at Trafalgar, at Waterloo, the Battle of Britain, Tobruk and many more. Protect OUR people. Always remember what the shit from the “mainland” is. Shit. They have none of what you have. They have no honour. They have no justification. They have no real courage. They have no honesty. Make sure that they die. In their tens of thousands. No mercy, no prisoners. Kill them all! Including those in argieland. Shoot it. Bomb it. Let them know the price of war. Make them suffer! Destroy!
Mar 05th, 2013 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Doctor Rebecca Edwards, daughter of a nurse and a naval officer who fought in 1982.” According to Marquis of Queensbury's Rules of course, he being a naval officer.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 conk
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fine words.... after 15 pints of special brew!
Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read 'Doctor to friend and foe' by Rick Jolly R.N.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very interesting book. He was even decorated by the Argentinians.
Young Falkland Islanders’ voice their views
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHAhaahah Who cares Pirates!MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!
uk is FINISHED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
@10:
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The expression is 'suck' not 'sucks'. Please learn English colloquialisms before posting.
@12:
What can I say, - Please, go see a psychiatrist for the good of humanity.
@8 Dear dead albatross, What the hell do you know about Queensberry rules? Not much evidently as you always punch below the Lonsdale Belt
Mar 05th, 2013 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cannot understand why they would not wish to be proud Argentinians. They could feel pride swelling in their breasts by emulating the residents of Ushaia demonstrating by burning flags and insulting tourist trying to spend money in their country.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the kind of life Argentina offers them. Who could resist blandishments such as these.
I WOULD IMAGINE EVERYONE ON THE FALKLANDS
#12 British proud to be called pirate, maybe you no understand?
Mar 05th, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0El Drago, he great pirate! Sink many many Spanish ship very famous
March 31st or April 30th Argentina finish actually when you no pay again
You talk through wrong hole, please consult proctocologist
@16Faz
Mar 05th, 2013 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You got that right, proud as hell! Only sunk their ships after liberating their silver and Gold all for a good cause, his. Then of course he Helped Hawkins and Frobisher take on the Armada, real pain in the Spanish arse! They would have loved to have got their hands on him.
@Doveoverdover Why don't you foooook of and go support the botox queen who is obviously distraught at the death of another South American criminal Chavez
Mar 05th, 2013 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16Faz:
Mar 05th, 2013 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I was able to come close enough to any pedophile like you, with your sentiments towards those kids, - You are already dead.
No anger, no real passion involved, just simple maths.
You and the rest of your malvanista ilk, - Personally, - I do not want my lovely daughters and sons to have to share this world with 'dog shit' like yourselves.
Just die, please. Just die.
Typical photo of chocolates, alfajores, kids shampoo, teen t-shirts, activia, sponsoring kids sports, er propaganda, isnt it??
Mar 05th, 2013 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the message is clear: “how aggresssive is Aryyyyyyentina. We instead are so nice.:(”
Remember is Arhentina when pronuncing these days to the press.
Aye Malen - No surprise the teen t-shirts grabbed your interest.
Mar 05th, 2013 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another Rg pedo?????
@20 What the hell are you on about malen? Your post is unintelligble
Mar 05th, 2013 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen
Mar 05th, 2013 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always the jealous one.
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@20Malen:
Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 05 BIM were screaming their best English to stop 2nd Battalion Scots Guards bayoneting them.
No mention of your filthy Spanish tongue - Fcuking terrified they were, and knew NOT to utter one singlr word in Spanish.
5 BIM were screaming their best English to stop 2nd Battalion Scots Guards bayoneting them.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHAHAHA But I have this screaming from the brits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0BNYGgEV4
imbec...
@12:
escoces:What can I say, - Please, go see a psychiatrist for the good of humanity
humanity? You have no humanity you are a brits...PIRATE to the core..
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS
Nice one guys!!!
Mar 06th, 2013 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0The whole of the UK is behind the Falklands Islanders.
It's time for the world to hear your voices so shout as long and as loud as you like!!!
25 Malvinero1
Don't you get tired of being a moron? I mean really? When you were looking for a job did you pick up the card that said “Moron wanted: No brain needed. Those with their own opinion need not apply”
l think that Malvinero1 is on day release from a mental institution.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Must have missed his/her/its daily injections.
l used to try to reason with the fool but soon gave it up as very unproductive.
Best ignored, although its fun to stir him/her/it up occasionally!
@25
Mar 06th, 2013 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0You forgot the best bit
Argentine Surrender Falklands War 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE
#19 Scotland
Mar 06th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You need read Mercopress article properly, these not children. You need also read posts more arefully, not through whiskey mist. Then you can make difference between friends and Args. I know ny English not so good
#29
Mar 06th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0He would not drink whiskey - that is American or Irish - go investigate.
Great article about some young hard working Falklanders, it's good to hear about their interesting and positive lives. They are an absolute asset to South America, it's such a shame they have turned their backs on them. They will always have full UK and Canadian support.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was taught by Lucinda May, she is a lovely person and a really good teacher as well. I clearly remember her telling me to put my artwork into the art competition when I was about six years old. I thought my pastel painting was terrible but she convinced me to enter it anyway. I won first prize, I was so shocked but happy.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Mrs May! :)
25 Malvinero1 (#)
Mar 06th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:59 am
That is an exceptionally interesting video, Malvinero1, but I didn't hear any screaming, what I did hear was a lot of sensible orders being given, and that seemed to turn a chaotic situation into an extremely orderly answer to a very dangerous event.
Thank you very much, Malvinero1, for once again showing your tremendous approval of the British troops on the Falklands, judging by your nick and the level of your posts I would have expected you to be anti-British, but you show yourself to be a true supporter of the British Army!!!!!!!
@9 Tell you what. I don't drink “Special Brew”. But I'm willing to travel to the Falklands and fight. That is a solemn promise. Get me there. Give me a gun. Give me ammunition and a bayonet. I WILL fight. Because it's right. Will you?
Mar 06th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 The “thing” is an anarchist and argie ass-licker. what more do you need to know?
@20 Faggots of the world UNITE. And die!
@25 I want to kill you. I want to meet you on a Falklands beach. I want to rip your belly open and drag your guts out. And then stamp on them. Ready?
@31 No, they are an asset to the South Atlantic. “South America” just wants them to bend their knees. No-one of real British origin ever bends their knee. “South Americans” aren't really worth anything. Just mouthy.
Oh dear Conks you have gone off your rocker again. I read your posts but I regret I had to report one of your posts which I considered extremely offensive and the editor removed it
Mar 06th, 2013 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to tink that all South Americans are an inferior race. The Nazi philosphy was the same as regarded the Slavs and so murdered or starved to death hundred of thousands of them
Though you chose to ignore it there are some brave spirits,even from Argentina who are democrats and express thier views on these threads. They will probably get thier doors knocked in at 3 am in the morning by the tax police
Its all very well you sniping at us from your comfortable wee house in UK. We who live here, be it Falklanders, Uruguayans, Chileans or Argentines live here and its our home. We may not agree with our governments but they did get a majority by democratic elections and we have to abide by that
From your posts I sometimes wonder if you are BNP
'How Argentines feel about the Falkland Islands dispute -
Mar 06th, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A group of 20-somethings dance and wave in unison as the singer from La Murga, one of Buenos Aires' favourite rock bands, belts out lyrics to a crowded night club.
Claudio Diaz is singing about the day Argentina invaded The Falkland Islands - 2 April 1982. It is a song about death, heroism and national pride - and the audience love it.
Most of them were not actually born when the incursion and subsequent conflict - in which 255 UK servicemen, three Falklands civilians and 649 Argentines died - took place.
So I arranged to meet some of them the next day in a local park to find out what Las Malvinas, as the islands are called in Argentina, mean to those born well after the war.
La Murga's song, April 2, is about the day that Argentine forces invaded the Falklands
“When we are very young, we are told about them at school,” 25-year-old Julia says. “We know that the islands are ours.”
“Children are brainwashed,” says 30-year-old Fredrico, “they are taught about the islands before they are old enough to understand.”
But his contemporary, Jeremias, responds angrily to this notion saying: “I was not brainwashed. I know that Las Malvinas are Argentinean, for two reasons - historical and geographical.”
However, a look at the ancient maps stored in the archive drawers at the National Library of Buenos Aires reveal that the situation is more complicated than that.
Over the past 400 years, the Falkland Islands have been variously claimed by the Dutch, the French, the Spanish, the Argentineans and the British.....'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21673504
@ 36 Steve 33 Nice well balanced post Thanks
Mar 06th, 2013 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, a look at the ancient maps stored in the archive drawers at the National Library of Buenos Aires reveal that the situation is more complicated than that.
Mar 06th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Over the past 400 years, the Falkland Islands have been variously claimed by the Dutch, the French, the Spanish, the Argentineans and the British.....'
Sure,malvinas was discovered by the Spanish,1530.MAps sitting in France,by Camargo.uk RENOUNCE to MAlvinas at both treaties Utrech and Nootka....Argentina claimed and occupied it in 1810...TOo late for the brits pirates...uk is FINISHED! Just get out from there while you still can...
@38
Mar 07th, 2013 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Absolute rubbish.
The Falkland Islands were not discovered by the Spanish in 1530.
No-one knows precisely who discovered the islands, because their name was not connected to the maps, but maps were made by possibly 2 unknown Portuguese explorers.
We do know that a map was produced by Pedro Reinel in 1522, but the information could not have come from Estêvão Gomes for 3 reasons:
1) he was imprisoned the moment he returned home for deserting Magellan's expedition, &
2) he was not released from prison until September 1522, by which time the map was already made, &
3) all the priests & historians on Gomes ship stated that the ship travelled up the coastline of S. America and never travelled out into the S. Atlantic. Furthermore, as the Falkland Islands are at roughly the same latitude as the Magellan Straits, it would be idiotic for someone travelling to Spain to head East, when he needs to travel North & hug the coast to make sure of fresh water & food.
We do know that after the Portuguese, the Dutch saw the Islands & the British. But it was Captain John Strong who first landed & set foot upon the Islands in 1690, long before the French or Spanish arrived.
The French may have set up their colony in 1764, but the British arrived in 1765. The Spanish did not arrive until 1767 and the Falklands Crisis of 1770-1 proved that both nations (Britain & Spain) had sovereignty claims to the Islands that were not resolved. Both Spain & Britain left the Islands, but retained their claim to sovereignty until the Spanish relinquished their claim in favour of Great Britain in 1863.
Argentina never had any legal claim to the Falkland Islands. The colony founded by Vernet in 1826 was with the permission of the British Consol. However, when the United Provinces declared Vernet their civil & military commander, Britain protested & removed the UP garrison, but not the civilian population which was invited to remain & consisted of 12 UP citizens out of 22 inhabitants.
Absolute rubbish.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands were not discovered by the Spanish in 1530.
No-one knows precisely who discovered the islands, because their name was not connected to the maps, but maps were made by possibly 2 unknown Portuguese explorers.
IDIOT.The maps are sitting in FANACE,Just go and look there
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Worldmap_1529-Ribero.jpeg
It is natural that Spain,that have been travelling down South to get to Peru,through the cape Horn,will discover MAlvinas.
Spain DID NOT RELINQUISHED a damn thing to uk.It was their possession and occupied by Argentina...
Argentina never had any legal claim to the Falkland Islands. The colony founded by Vernet in 1826 was with the permission of the British Consol
Whrong again!
He did not asked permission to the brits.He has the documents stamped at the british embassy.On the contrary uk by not claiming and signing it aknowledge it.
YOU ARE A LIAR!
@34 Conk.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0In 1982, 2nd of April, Argentina invaded. 4 days later, on my 18th birthday, i had a letter postmarked 'The House of Commons'. Jesus H Christ I thought, I've been called up! The letter turned out to be from the local MP saying 'congratulations you are now elligible to vote' ! I've followed all the exploits of our boys and have always done so for all our involvements around the world. They do us proud, as did my grandfather, an anti-aircraft gunner in Bristol in WW2. I would be proud to fight for my country.
@40 Malvinero1,
Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Somebody wrote this for you, didn't they, Malvi-baby.
You are not intelligent enough or articulate enough to have written this.
Your posts consist of:- AHAHAHAHAH or AARRGGHH, or some such rot.
Ending with:- Argentina is FIIIIINNNNNIIIISSSSSHHHHEEEDDD,
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. etc.
Were you out making the coffee while your Handler was on your computer?
btw- where is FANANCE? Sounds an interesting place.
#38
Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just get out from there while you still can...
I have noticed the threats coming from several of the ARGIE trolls recently. The UK will be forced to give up the islands as Argentina will unleash yet undisclosed secret weapons of unstoppable power against us. When is the youtube video coming out ? I am in need of a laugh !
@40
Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0The documents in the national archives of Great Britain, Argentina and France corroborate the facts I've detailed. There are maps in France which pre-date any of those in Argentina and clearly show that they were produced by Portuguese navigators, NOT Spanish.
So that makes you a fool for ignoring them, or worse, another victim of Argentine propaganda.
The Argentine government has been lying about the Falkland Islands for years. Just recently, they altered their official leaflets to omit their claim that ALL the Argentines were forced to leave the Falklands in 1833. As I previously stated, 12 UP citizens remained on the Islands after the UP garrison was asked to leave. At his courts martial in Buenos Aires, Pinedo presented a detailed report on what happened & listed the names of the people that remained on the Islands. Pinedo's evidence shows that the UP & Argentine governments were aware that not all their citizens left the Islands. Argentina has persistently misled other nations, including the UN, that ALL their citizens were removed when they knew the truth. Misleading someone when you know it to be false is lying.
So YOU & Argentina, have been lying to the world for decades.
Moreover, none of the Argentine maps between 1850 & 1884 show the Falklands as Argentine. Most of them obscure the position of the Islands with text or an index Indeed, the 1884 Latzina map is very revealing, because it shows the Islands as foreign territory. The Latzina map was commissioned by the Argentine foreign ministry & 120,000 were distributed. So even your own government accepted that they were outside Argentina.
As for Vernet, he often stated that he believed the Falkland Islands were British. Not only did he seek permission to be on the Islands, but after 1833 he stated many times in documents held by archives that they were British. Vernet wanted them to be British to protect his venture from being stolen by General Rosas. You are a fool for ignoring the facts.
UK posters, check out on BBC Iplayer, Newsnight 6th March, approx 36 mins in. It's a report from Sue LLoyd Roberts about Argentinan attitudes to the Falklands, government spokeman Filmus dismissed referendum, political commentator Jorg Castro said it was very important, 2 young students, believe in the argentine historical claims and geographical claims, the 3rd did not and he believed brainwashing was the problem in Argentina. It was very interesting. Many others believe the claim too.
Mar 07th, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45
Mar 07th, 2013 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I did see this report last night. It was interesting, because it corroborates the point of view of several enlightened Argentines on Twitter and elsewhere.
One Argentine Twitter user believes that Argentina would be far better off making friends with the Islanders rather than attacking them. He believes that trade will build cooperation, over fishing & oil and that this will result in increased ties between the mainland and the Islands.
The other Argentine is a professor at a British university. He believes that the Islanders have to be involved in any discussions and that their rights have to be respected.
Both Argentines believe that the Falklands are Argentine, but they are not insistent that they be handed over by force, or that the Islanders should be ignored. They both agree that the Islanders have more right to the islands because they've been there longer than most Argentines have been in Argentina.
Both agree that trade is the answer, not only to build trust & friendship, but because they know that Argentina will lose out massively when the oil bonanza starts. Primarily because the firms exploiting the oil will work with the Falkland Islands Government & ignore any threats from Argentina.
When it comes down to it in the end, Argentina will lose face every time an oil tanker loads up from the Falklands oil wells. The Argentines won't be able to do anything about it either, because the oil wells will be protected by SSNs, as well as Sosus. Any attempt to interfere with oil production will be discouraged in the strongest possible sense!
@38
Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina claimed and occupied it in 1810”
When Argentina was formed in 1853???
Perhaps the new generation will want more to engage with the Argentina and South America of today, rather than still fearing the Argentina of 30 years ago. They would of course have a better deal under youth friendly (and youthful!) Cristina than “youth unemployment” Cameron...
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kretina - the Botox Queen, the Wicked Witch of Argentina, the Mad Bitch Of Buenos Aires, the woman who robbed her own citizens of millions of dollars, the woman so unpopular amongst her own citizens that they call her La Muja, the woman, and say it as a curse under their breath.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has nothing to offer Argentina except misery, defeat, unemployment, inflation, crime, corruption, embarrassment, riots, fat maximo, death.
#48
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0O.K. Tell us how we in the UK would be better off under an administration headed by CFK. I await your reply with interest and a huge dose of skepticism.
#50 Well we wouldn't have the bedroom tax for one thing, and more widely the government would be more interested in growth and helping the people rather than this mad austerity. Plus we'd have a courageous leader who we could admire as a person =)
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