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Cristina Fernandez will attend inauguration mass for Francis I
Argentine President Cristina Fernández will be attending the official ceremony installing Jorge Ramon Bergoglio as Francis I which is scheduled to take place next March 19. The announcement was made by the presidential office. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSo the scabby old harpy is going to have a try at making the Pope her new secret weapon. “God wants us to have them - Frank says so!” will be the 2013 motto.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0A humble living guy.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice balance.
Mercopress, today:
”President Cristina Fernandez has avoided official national ceremonies where Bergoglio was leading because he has repeatedly talked about poverty, corruption and selfishness of the political system.
Bergoglio became a priest at 32,nearl
cant believe that in 2013 people still believe in this tripe
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Las Malvinas are ours“: New Argentinian Pope Francis has hard line on Falkland Islands”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)))))))))))))))))
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pope-francis-hard-line-falkland-1762205
Is CFK a 'lapsed' Catholic ?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Then he has to explain why Argentina's claim over S Georgia and the S Sandwich Islands are not assigned to Portugal under the Treaty of Torsedillas under infallible Papal logic .
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Soon after you explain the English claim on the same islands.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know since the Vatican regained it sovereignty in 1929 there has been 7 popes Francis is the 8th, The bible predict that there would be seven kings and the eighth would be Satan himself, after the return of sovereignty (no sovereignty meant no state, therefore no kingdom like the Vatican has been since 1929). Satan is a great deceiver so he would want us to think he was one of the people etc. Francis is the eighth pope.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Revelations prophesied the above, if like some you believe all that, but Pope John Paul did and he believed that his attempted assassination was the final part of (or one part off) The Three Secrets of Fátima that the Vatican no about but have not told us what those secrets were, at least not the final one.
Now Francis is an Argentine that does not support the free will and rights of the Falkland islanders as quoted by the mirror, wouldn't it be ironic if he really was Satan? After all its would hardly be surprising considering hes an Argentine.
Personally i am open minded to these prophecy's, as they may just be assumptions based of real life facts and things written in the bible ie 1 + 2 to make 3. But think about how the church ruled Europe up till Neapolitan, isn't the church itself the greatest deceiver, fornicator and sinner of them all, you only have to look at its history! The woman riding the beast with seven heads is how the bible describes the church - Worth considering.
@9 Go back to bed :-)))
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 - Not my words Muppet, there from the bible in Revelations and others such as Daniel - And no i won't go back to bed, its my time for getting up and getting ready for running my own company for the day, earning thousands in net profit like i do everyday. What do you do each day other then getting paid with a bread basket for posting propagandist crap in whilst in complete denial of peoples human rights or very existence!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“let’s hope he will send a message to the great powers so they will engage in dialogue. That he will manage to talk those wielding the power, those who have weapons and financial might, into looking at the emerging countries and promote civilized dialogue”.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck on getting him to mention the Islands my dear Cristina. Not all heads of state are as juvenile at statecraft as you.
One squeak from him about the Falklands and he should become the first pope given the arse for politicising the job........
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0#7 simple we discovered the islands
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Landed and claimed south georgia in 1775 occupied it an administrated the whaling and sealing that went on there.
Argentinas claim is what?
Will Chrissy leave in the huff if she doesn't get to make the main speech?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0' Fernández will be attending the official ceremony '
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet she doesn't fly there in Tango 1
When he ordered the crowd to pray for him and stood leaning forward in silence in a rather unstable pose a part of me thought “wouldn't it be funny if he toppled off the balcony”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK needs to understand that the British haven't taken orders from Rome since the reign of Henry VIII
Turnip at (17) says
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The British haven't taken orders from Rome since the reign of Henry VIII”
I say...:
Correct.....
And since then, the English have followed Henry VIII's family values...
Now that the Catholic church stands revealed in all it's homophobic, woman hating, child raping glory, it's fitting, don't you thing that the head of this organised crime sindicate should be an Argentinian.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1xvdZMC10
Rejoice!!! Catholics of the world!!! You should all be ssssoooooo proud....
@5:
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0That was last year, when he was in argentina, - That wanker will not get involved in any debate over the Falklands now he is pope.
Wait and see.................
Perhaps he'll do a better job of stewarding the Santissima Trinidad than the Aregntine Navy.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is our wish that, as you take command of the Church, you have a fruitful task as you take over the immense responsibility of fighting for justice, equality, fraternity and peace for humanity,” she added.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh great........... “as you take command” HA!!!
she see's this as a military operation.... Bet you £10 that she now see's this as a “sign” that “God is on her side” and that her quest to get the falklands back is now a “Holy Crusade”.... Oh give it a rest.........
@5:
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0But then again he might just be stupid enough to. No doubt at the begging of CFK.
When I saw they had elected a new pope I thought 'ah, a new antichrist' . Then when I read that he was anti Falklands that reminded me that ALL Argentinians have been brainwashed. A son of recent immigrants thinks he has more rights to land than those who have lived there for 9 generations, its almost unbelieveable. But then you are talking about an organisation that has squeezed the poor and ignorant for thousands of years, denied women's rights, outlaws contraception, hates gay people, with a priesthood well known for sexually abusing the young and weak and yet poses as a benign 'holy' church.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0The catholic church is a crutch for people who have no mind of their own. Hypocrites who kneel before it yet ignore its instructions on contraception and abortion. It suits Argentinean people down to the ground because it is founded on lies, hypocracy and denial of what is right and true. I sincerely hope we never see this particular hypocrite in England or any British Overseas Territory.
Aww isn't it such a shame that the official religion of Great Britain is the Church of England.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shall we ask the leader of our Church, her majesty Queen Elizabeth II, the Queen of Great Britain, ordained and chosen by god to rule this country!
I imagine her opinion to be something like “I say Philip, I'm a step away from having a corgie sh*t on that mad cows head”, “Thats it Lizzy, let the b******ds have it!”
@5 God himself hasn't managed or cared to unlodge the hardy Falkland Islanders in 180 years, so his mortal delegate on planet earth will have no chance.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0After all, do you think the pope would choose to prioritise the wishes of a corrupt mendacious philistine over honest hard working folk? Now that would be a change in policy!
Good luck to him. I guess it makes sense for him to be a South American as secular views in Europe are on the rise. I'm still undecided if populations need to be poor or have lower IQs for the majority to believe in the various gods we have to choose from today.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/religion_vs_iq.html
Maybe both? Reminds me of a South Park episode.
Political Prayers.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 - No, she's just lapsed.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hope she doesnt take tango 1 hate to see it seized
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0No danger of that, they have fitted it out with sails, safe has houses.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah Bryzi, it's much better to be a random biological splodge with no meaning, purpose or future in an accidental universe that doesn't care.
Enjoy your finite period of biological activity!
#1 it will never happen. He was always an outspoken critic of the Bishop and she hates him equally as well. She is quite the hypocrite because she is as religious as Pontius Pilate was.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hoping for dialogue....her code for the UK and RGs talking, he will never take that bait......remember asslips.......he LOATHS the kirchners........remember you are one of them.
Not even the pope can rule over SELF-DETERMINATION, its a human right The Falklanders have along with everyone on the planet,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0how would it look now, if a pope championed the stripping of humanity from a group of peoples for OIL????????????
SELF-DETERMINATION.......Dont be a choir-boy bumming hypocrit!
She's off to see the wizard...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hypocritical bitch, she hates him for bringing attention to grinding poverty and lack of care. Now she wants to use him as a political weapon. Beyond the pale.....but I guess we knew that.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, she is a devious bitch, it take her two minutes to manipulate this situation to get own advantage, lets hope she overplays her hand with it like she usually does. I can't see the Falklands being a great cause for concern to the Catholic Church, when Christians are being squeezed out if Muslim countries all over the world.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0In any event, the UK isn't a catholic country, I think there are six million Catholics in the UK, hardly a force for any change, not that they would support any papal erroneous claims on Falklands sovereignty. In addition the Catholic Church is about as popular as thrush in the UK, owing to all the sex scandals and paedophilia.
Part of his duties will be to meet the head of the Anglican Church (Queen Elizabeth I I) no doubt she will put him right on any 'dialogue' issues.
According to his previous behavior, he may come into radical conflict with CFK. While she will try to turn him into a political weapon, it might backfire on her seeing as many speculate that he's always hated what she has been doing to Argentina.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the K's go against the Catholic church, which they are arrogant enough to try, they will embarrass themselves...again.
“and we also hope he can achieve a meaningful task for the region” said Cristina Fernandez.”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0One assumes that she is wittering on about the Falklands again, which begs the question; WTF does she think he could possibly “achieve” in that context?
The Onion has got him taped. http://www.theonion.com/articles/focus-who-is,31657/
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And since then, the English have followed Henry VIII's family values
http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/argentine-church-under-the-shadow-of-the-dirty-war/
LONDON — The election of an Argentine to the papacy has revived a polemic about the role of the Catholic Church during his country’s so-called “dirty war” and about his own dealings with a military junta that murdered up to 30,000 citizens
I hope someone directs her on how to dress,look and smell if she's travelling to Rome
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0smell interesting verb choice......lol We all know how she will dress. Ashame she doesn't get lost in the catacombs
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#25
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The official religion of Gt, Britain is NOT the Anglican Church.
Scotland has it's own Church which has no permanent head.
We did away with Bishops etc in the 16 century !
@35
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am crying with laughter, absolutely brilliant.
She will no doubt be keen to kiss his ring and beg for his support. Partizan political support by the Pope would do nothing but undermine whatever authority and dignity his office still possesses. It won't happen.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”The Argentine president also referred to the historic event while attending an official ceremony and said she hoped Pope Francis will “send a message to the great powers so they will engage in dialogue.”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She will now claim she has God on her side! Silly cow!
@44 Touchy, either way, the point is that we are protestant and the pope has nothing over us.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am a British Catholic and am totally dismayed that the Argentine Cardinal Archbishop of Buenos Aires has been elected Pontiff of the Roman Catholic Church especially after the history of his involvement with the military junta of the 70s and 80s of the last century and in view of his homily on the occasion of the Mass to celebrate the 30th anniversary of the totally illegal armed invasion of the Falkland Islands in 1982. He referred to the inhabitants of the Falklands archipelago as “usurpers” and to the islands themselves as part of the “patria”(homeland) of Argentina. NO CLERIC OF ANY CHRISTIAN FAITH SHOULD BE SO ARROGANT AS TO MAKE PROVOCATIVE STATEMENTS OF THIS NATURE ON A RELIGIOUS OCCASION.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no problem with patriotic clerics - they are men after all - but to make statements as he did is just not acceptable. In my opinion, his elevation to the Pontificate is a grave error and is an example of the shoddiness by which the Church now conducts its matters.
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Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Las Malvinas are ours“: New Argentinian Pope Francis has hard line on Falkland Islands”
LOL! It wont be the first time the British have given a Pope the finger.
Can Argentina afford the airfare for the bitch to fall on her knees and look the new Pope in the eyes to ask forgiveness for the manacle way that she has led her country to the edge of the abyss.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If she finds herself on her knees in front of him she just might find out that the new Pope dislikes her and is maybe thinking of excommunicating her along with all the other sinners in that country.
Thats if he does not have his head turned at all the loot in the Vatican vaults and remembers that he is a thieving Argentine first and foremost and loots them for his own ends.
@49, 51 I was under the impression that he will oppose Cristina, and point out the flaws of her ways to the world, and we will all watch her hideous downfall.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you have any opinions to the contrary please share some links of reliable news sources. I'm still gathering information on him before forming an opinion.
#48
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not particularly. I am just correcting a mistake you made.
Just as I would for using England when it is substituted for the UK.
does she mean, that she is going like everybody else and to watch,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or has she been invited inside as a special guest to see it from the inside.
#51 interesting point. I wonder what airline she will charter? Perhaps hope a ride with Dilma or maybe the whole of SA with carpool lol
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you call the Choir at the Pope's inauguration mass??
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The booby prize!!!!
Everyone on here is saying she hates him for bringing attention to poverty; yet she is the most anti-poverty President in Argentine history, and she has many other reasons to clash with (not “hate”) him, like his murky role in the Dirty War for which he's refused to testify, his anti-gay and other reactionary preaching in recent years, and I imagine if he is attacking her for poverty its not because he is genuinely criticisng her from the left for not moving even faster, but as a ruse to help the right. Of course he almost certainly also has a genuine, pastoral, sense of service to the poor; people are contradictory. But when it comes to putting that pastoral service into action in the political sphere, I hope and expect most Argentine Catholics will not vote to returnt to the failed policies of the neoliberal past, whatever their Pope may wish. As a believer in God though not specifically a Catholic, I still think Cristina is the greatest living Argie, and certainly the better of the two Argies who are now Heads of State
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonderfully spoken from the man who never seen life behind the wizards curtain in Argentina. If you where ever there, you would know more of the war between the two. If the ugly cunt of argentina cared about the poor, she would get that rate under 35%, realize it takes more than 12 pesos a day to be lifted out off poverty, encourage DFI, thus creating jobs and opportunities for the poor, not running them out, most importantly, not stealing for personal wealth.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I HOPE THE THE INFECTED CUNT DIES A MISERABLE DEATH LIKE CHUBBY CHAVO!!
@57 B.K.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is good to fight for social justice,but to make your heroine someone who has amassed a personal fortune 90 million euros without any credible explanation stolen no doubt from the Argentine nation (gullible fools that they are) ,makes me think that you are either a knave or dullard .
if he backs her, he will be as bad as her,
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0she dont need any holy help to ruin what she has already ruined..
'a native of this land' how does that work....???? http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126389/what’s-all-this-about-a-‘peronist-pontiff’
Mar 15th, 2013 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The K's have not attended a mass conducted by Bergoglio since 2004...and all of a sudden yesterday she ended her speech to a large group of supporters with “god bless you”. First time ....EVER!!! She will try to use this for her own good...as usual.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a reply to a question at a press conference today, David Cameron, quite rightly, reminded Pope Francis that the result of the recent referendum in the Falkland Islands was “the white smoke” of democracy! Good for him!
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope when the greatest living Argie kneels down & kisses his ring he says to her ´& while you´re down there´
#58 Hopefully the Pope, whatever his other bad points, is not so stupid as you to think that “cutting inflation” (ie cutting wages and jacking up profits, just the way Menem and the IMF liked it) is the be all and end all of fighting poverty; but he probably does hold to some trickle down theories to square his genuine and humble pastoralism (unless its a complete fraud) with his right wing opposition to Liberation Theology. His highlighting that poverty still exists under Cristina, while undoubtedly true, is facile if he is effectively trying to help back to power right wingers who would do much less to raise people out of it. It seems the right have “discovered” poverty all over Latin America ever since the left have started winning elections...
Mar 15th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#62 Cristina has always beleived in God; just less so in Bergoglio =)
#63 Seems more like Rome gave the referendum its answer!
(65) British_Kirchnerist
Mar 15th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to have you back on board.....
Though he ain't no Saint, please don't believe everything you read about Mr. Bergoglio.
Our side can also desinform.....
Anyhow....
In the best of Proto-Christian spirit....
Let's hope he now sees the true light....
#65
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#63 Seems more like Rome gave the referendum its answer!
And John Knox gave Rome it's answer in 1560 !!
and henry Vlll gave the pope his answer.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@65 wait, you think your Armani wearing, luxury loving mathemagician has the answers?
Mar 15th, 2013 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahahaha
The truth is often in the middle :)
This has nothing to do with the Falklands . What does make one sick is the Government run campaign to smear the reputación of the new Pope questioning his activities during the military rule . How low can this Govrnmemt sink ? And now she says that she will visit Rome for the ceremony !!
Mar 15th, 2013 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#65 you ignorant moron as always BK. Where have I ever stated that to fight inflation you cut wages, increase profits? You communist are all blinded by your desire to make everyone equally poor.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have idiots like you ever heard of demand pull? Aggregate demand exceeding supply? As the trade balance surpluses WERE great, it has draw backs.........supplies, resources and products leave the country. Demand will exceed supply even if the demand remained the same. Then, when you have decreasing DFI and cannot replace supplies and resources, less supplies again. Also no new base for tax revenues, it forces asslips kirchner to print more pesos, more pesos, more demand less supplies means inflation. You are a stupid communist dickhead that would rather have the poor have handouts then have a job. Don't try to tell me my POV on how to handle inflation when I've never stated it. All her policies that are forcing businesses to flee at increasing rates and not addressing the domestic aggregate supplies cause the incredible inflation in Argentina......Simple supply and demand
And BTW, did you hear asslips in her speech tell everyone that diabetes is a rich mans disease for eating to much and not enough exercise? That's your beautiful idiot for you..........blaming the rich for an autoimmune disease. When will the assassinate if for nothing else.....shear stupidity. And, here's another kicker, suddenly all her speeches, for those still awake, will hear her end with....“God bless you all”. She found God when her outspoken critic became Pope. I can hardly wait for a picture of her kissing the Pope's ring. The only God she ever knew was Nasty Nestor........and the devil is having his was with nasty Nestor every day for enternity.......just after Chubby Chavo.
CFK is obsesed with the falklands,
Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0B-K is obsesed with CFK .
the reasoning is expected.
BK is like a pre teen with an never ending errection. Regardless of his political believes, he is like a childish horny fool. He can't say anything about her without saying something about her looks. I think looks are irrelevant to a leader. But she is incompetent either way and as good looking as a dogs ass getting riding of worms.
Mar 17th, 2013 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Néstor Kirchner, who died in
Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 02010, accused then-Cardinal Bergoglio of
being the true “leader of the opposition.”
-Miami press
Still no word from B.K. about her stolen personal fortune,a knave and a dullard me thinks.
Mar 18th, 2013 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think the Pope is going to hammer her, unfortunately in private, over her ways. The big talk in Rgland is seeing her kiss his ring.....lol
Mar 18th, 2013 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy and toxic taxi
Mar 18th, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She will get slapped down hard, but her massive ego compels her to go. How can she resist meeting the Pope, to be acknowledged publicly by him??
Her whole life is a lie.
She asked him for help, but with the problems he has to deal with, Argentina will not be his concern.
Mar 18th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#66 ”(65) British_Kirchnerist
Mar 22nd, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to have you back on board.....
Though he ain't no Saint, please don't believe everything you read about Mr. Bergoglio.
Our side can also desinform.....
Anyhow....
In the best of Proto-Christian spirit....
Let's hope he now sees the true light....”
A good fair minded comment from you as I've come to expect. Of course our side is capable of its own disinforming (though as it represents the real interests of the vast majority, can never be as dependent on it as the right =)!), though its probably always a bad idea both ethically and in case you get caught (or the victim becomes Pope or something!); but I'm not convinced thats whats happening with Bergoglio. The original accusations came, decades ago, from his own priests; since then he has refused to testify at truth comissions etc; and his silence at a time when he had far more chance of speaking out than others is itself a mark against him. But I defeinately hope he now sees the light as you put it, and focuses on his advocacy for the poor, spirituality, reform of the Vatican etc, not fighting old battles wth the left. Cristina has dealt with the situation magnificently I think (as well as looking as beautiful as ever in her demure meet the Pope outfit!) and hopefully will have no reason to stop accentuating the positive...
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