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Mining project suspension in Mendoza leading to major clash between Argentina and Brazil

Saturday, March 16th 2013 - 07:28 UTC
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A major conflict could be brewing between Argentina and Brazil after Rio’s Vale decided to cancel a 6 billion dollars potash development project in Mendoza and the Argentine Labour minister issued a mandatory conciliation which actually impedes implementation of the closing down decision. Read full article

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  • Think

    A little correction on the title of this article....:

    Mining project suspension in Mendoza leading to major clash between Argentina and Vale, a private, public traded, Brazilian mining multinational company.

    http://www.publiceye.ch/en/ranking/

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Pull up a chair and get some popcorn :-)))))

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Teaboy2

    @2 I hope it's it 3D - lol

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    They may still be employed, but do they get paid?

    The Argentine usurper government seem keen to exploit natural resources in South America as quickly as possible. Do they have plans to hand the pace back to the natives and go home, once they have stripped the place bare?

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • willi1

    de vido, one of the senior idiots of the ck gang was wrong as usual: not vale wanted to pay losses with arg money but the other way: arg wanted to cash in vale´s money to pay arg´s losses.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Teaboy2, it is in 3D. The original movie wasn't but this is a remake of a remake.

    Same ending though. *****SPOILER ALERT******

    The whole thing ends in a financial meltdown. The first time around they invaded the Falklands, crashed and burned and the government lost power.

    The next remake left out the invasion part but still had the financial meltdown and loss of power.

    Not sure which direction they'll take with this one.

    So stop hogging the popcorn stick it up your junta and shove over.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    CFK was counting on the lovely Vale U$ entering the Arg banking system from Brazil. Now they're gone, poof.

    Bah, don't worry it only a few more U$ Billions to make up.
    Cut out some more cancer medicine we can't have the majority of the populations going cold this winter.

    I think they still only have 75% of the needed LNG to make it through the winter
    brr
    Dilma will make sure no cars get across the border. GM and Ford will accelerate their departure.
    I will laugh and laugh

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    You would think that any 'government minister' (oxymoron for the morons in argieland) would have done their best at ensuring AR commitments were met and the project encouraged to carry on.

    So what do this lot do 'issue a mandatory conciliation order'. I bet Vale isn’t stupid enough to pay the 'workers' though.

    And if La Think, the bitter and twisted old woman of Chubut, 'thinks' that Rousseff will stand by and let possibly the most important company in Brasil be badgered by a bunch of little crooks aka the argie government without doing anything about it, 'she' is mistaken as usual.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Vale didn't show up for the “manadory” meeting yesterday. I wonder if they have any U$ left in the country for the Rgs to “lawfully” seize “FOR THE GOOD OF THE WORKERS”
    Dilma Dilma Dilma...who's side will you be on...your country's business for a crazy women?
    I think we all know the answer to that question
    I wonder if Iran wants to talk it over
    hahaha

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    Good for Mendoza, our economy does not need polluting mining. Many of our economic sectors depend on a pristine environment.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Diego, I think your gov't would disagree with you. The Governor has been whining screaming and carrying on since the announcement.
    losers

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    We are not north americans or europeans, plundering, decimating, and depredating all resources, life, and purity of vast stretches of this earth, leaving behind barren, plutonian landscapes of deforestation, open-pit mining, animal extinction, and radiation.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    The economic sectors of Mendoza need U$ to be successful.
    Now, with $6b less $$$ coming in, higher unemployment, there will less to support the “other economic sectors”

    What will happen to Mendoza? How many Havannas have to close, for trolls to recognise their economy is imploding?

    De Vido is doing a great job of ensuring that Vale and other foreign investors are discouraged from anymore $6b investments in Argie land.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    But you do bring in non-native species to decimate the land for you.
    Ask how the beaver is doing in TDF.
    hahaha
    stupid losers

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    @9 good info as usual, YB.

    (☞゚ヮ゚)☞ @10 You're right.

    This is a great pause to think about Mendoza as a healthy, happy place.
    And not this:
    http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201331313434142322

    Premium tourist dollars..And organic ag- it gets a FAR better premium price.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    @John Troll the 3rd Says “Good for Mendoza, our economy does not need polluting mining. Many of our economic sectors depend on a pristine environment”

    Not quite what worldwide governmant think they see it as a land of criminals.

    “Con-men have been known to rob tourists while an accomplice pretends to help remove ketchup or mustard that has been 'accidentally' sprayed on them. Another common tactic is slitting handbags in crowded places and snatching mobile phones while they are being used.

    Passport thefts are common especially in Buenos Aires and Mendoza. Leave your passport in a hotel safe or security box and keep a photocopy of the details page with you at all times.”

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    We need, more than never, protect São Paulo State and our industrial facilities. That is a price for peace.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjvkOHeVRCs&list=HL1363454386

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    17 Brasileiro

    Excellent view of the city: what does the industrial area look like?

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @10 Oh, goody. According to wiki, a quarter of Mendoza's “economy” is already based on mining. The argie way. “Politics” over reality. Incidentally, no-one wants your lemons either! Mendoza is undoubtedly one of the 23 retard argie provinces. Fortunately, “evolution” has its “imperatives”. Retards die!
    @12 We know. You like to kill people instead. Does the number of people exceed the available food supply? Improve the food supply? No! Kill the people.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    16 andy65

    what a lovely country, with all that going on I'm surprised that Argentina even has a tourist industry.... who would all that? And I bet the food is expensive as well.......

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The Cat Jump, ChrisR! I dont know São Paulo, i use your products, i believe in our Union. Ops. My girl friend is from São Paulo. Brother, i am soyan been, i live in manies hectares from soyan been! Thanks, brother.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    @14

    My child, how are the native birds and even crocodiles of your north american swamps doing now that you ”intelligently' introduced the python and ananconda?

    Dummies.

    But I will troll for you all my child.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    So,
    As this hots up, and takes centre stage over the pope,
    Will CFK send troops to the border?
    Tanks, aeroplanes,
    Will she send the mighty Argentina navy,
    With her new stealth submarines,

    Will she be ready to expand Argentina’s empirical claims over brazil,
    ????????????????????????????
    Or is this just a another dream, and will amount to nothing more than discussions between normal consenting adults.
    [ and talk]

    lol
    .

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Briton, the Pope!

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    not so high,

    just plain british will do.

    but thanks anyway

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Thanks Briton, for your education with me

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    thats ok.

    brazil will grow and become the dominant force in south America,

    sadly Argentina will decline.

    what should be a great partnership may well never happen..

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I like this music.....one “regalo”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS8IZcx7tJY

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Hey you dumb fucking pope “toby the snot” Introducing makes it sound like the USA made a decision to bring in pythons, they are brought in like the drugs from south america. As for crocs.....ever take a piss on the side on the highway and check out the drain ditches? Overloaded with crocs. They are a nusiance, they are always in peoples yards and pools.
    Back on track......your pres wants the mining....you don't. WHo is smarter....the pres running argentina or you?

    That's ok you need not answer.

    One question......don;t you feel a bit immature always taking a new name? I am guessing you are 14.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @ JT3 “We are not north americans or europeans, plundering, decimating, and depredating all resources, life, and purity of vast stretches of this earth, leaving behind barren, plutonian landscapes of deforestation, open-pit mining, animal extinction, and radiation.”

    No, you are much worse than that.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/peopleandpower/2013/03/201331313434142322.html

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @30 expbrit

    Thanks for the link. I honestly had no idea about this.

    I might not like the Argentine government but if even half of that is true it is devastating. Poor Argentina.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    22. Dumb bunny Pythons weren't brought into Florida by its Governor but the beavers were in TDF and now they have them in Chile!

    As I have said many times Rgs are not a smart people

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @30 Yes, that's devastating. So I went and looked up Monsanto: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto And from there to Monsanto in Argentina: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto And from there to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto And from there to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto

    So Monsanto provides these genetically-modified seeds. Then it provides pesticides/herbicides to spray over the crop and this can lead to infant deformation and other illnesses. At the same time, Monsanto provides a bovine growth hormone. The prime purpose of which is to increase milk production in dairy cattle. But it's also still present in the meat. And as I understand it, “mate cocido” in argieland may be made with or without sugar and milk. So that's another nice way to get some rBGH. Haven't I mentioned something before about crops and chemicals? And cattle and drugs? However, it seems that Monsanto et al don't get an easy ride in Europe. Apparently rBGH hasn't been allowed on the market. Is that why we still have minds and argies don't? And, vis a vis her “personal wealth”, how much “dosh” do we think Monsanto has given CFK? Another reason not to let the argies get their sticky, deformed little fingers on the Falklands. But just look in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto The argies already have “Malvinas Argentinas”. It's right there in Cordoba Province! And there's another one in Buenos Aires Province! It must be easy to get confused. Especially when you're a drugged-up, deformed psychotic. And so much for argie claims about their wonderful fruit, vegetables and animal products. They deform and they kill. Contact your political representative. End the EU-Mercosur talks. They are trying to poison and kill us. This must be biological and chemical warfare. No wonder CFK loves it!

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    @30

    My Children, I see you are once again courting sacrilege of the 9th Commandment.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisis

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    30. Great story thanks for sharing!
    The communities only well? WTF? Africa?
    Peasants getting their land stolen? 1500s?
    It is incredible how backward their civilization still is.

    Did you notice the lady at 12min saying she let her kids play under the plane while it is spraying pesticides!
    As I have said many times they're not a smart people

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    How do all of you have so much patience to even response to toby, who seems relatively intelligence, but offset by his immaturity? The kid has to be a school age teen by the way he changes names. Now he thinks he found religion (no to be confused with God or a supreme being) because of Bergoglio.

    I read Argentina's #1 industry, Auto manufacturing is down over 2% yoy. Gotta hurt when you are scrambling for U$ and now Vale pulling out. Toby never did answer is he is smarter than his leader.......lol
    When will they post Feb. Balance of accounts? Does it take that long to doctor a deficit into a small surplus?

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    36. I would bet U$100 or $805 pesos he is in his early 30s , still lives at home and works in a locutorio where he gets free internet. He probably never graduated from University where he took a language degree.

    Emotions and knowledge of a teen but assuredly older.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    My child, just because you will dwell in the Hellfire for universal time due to your past hatred, evil words, and actions towards Argentines, does not mean you can still repent.

    I will troll for you my child.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    As you type and post emotions of a teen, there he is, faster than white on rice (perhaps soy in this case) he comes, posts and proves your last sentence.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    This truly suggests that CFK influence is dwindling by the day,

    She is becoming less noticeable by the day,
    The world is less interested by the day,
    And her new hope, the converted halo,
    Will not sit on her head,
    Basically CFK will soon become an irrelevance,

    And Brazil, will just ignore her, and advance herself on the world stage,
    Leaving behind her a big hole, that used to be argentina ..
    Just a holy thought..
    .

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Looking at the video I think we now know where some of TMBOAs wealth has come from.

    But of course, she does not have to live near the soy fields or the pesticides / herbicides like the villagers and in her usual manner couldn't GAF.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @37,39 Yankees

    “36. I would bet U$100 or $805 pesos he is in his early 30s , still lives at home and works in a locutorio where he gets free internet. He probably never graduated from University where he took a language degree.”

    ”As you type and post emotions of a teen, there he is, faster than white on rice (perhaps soy in this case) he comes, posts and proves your last sentence.”

    Probably not graduated, has no financial obligations like home ownership or kids, no employment (except carwash???), certainly has no business of his own which would make him aware if the economic forces at play.

    Free WiFi at home, or his 'place of study', the local Havanna café and milk bar.

    LOL, what a loser.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    My children, I am witnessing the sad, furciferous specter of false transubstantiation. By describing your own existence of inadequate education, lack of personal achievement, boorish parochialism, and superannuated dependence on your progenitors, and imputing such condition on myself, it demonstrate an effect that is normally labelled as “projection”.

    My children, I will troll for you.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @43 teen troll Toby

    “My children, I will troll for you.”

    That brought a slight smile to my lips the first time you used it.

    Getting tedious now. :-(

    You seem to enjoy hearing yourself speak.
    Nobody else thinks you say anything worth listening to.

    Sad, a wasted life.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Toby is living proof that immature gibberish fools never look in the mirror and see immature gibberish fools.

    Finally, the ex dictator asserted that “Today, Argentina witness a new war but without the use of physical violence as is proposed by [Antonio] Gramsci, as institutions are being taken hostage, thus we could say that the Republic has disappeared.”

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126604/%E2%80%98the-military-people-will-prevent-cfk-from-perpetuating-in-power%E2%80%99-ex-dictator-jorge-videla

    Maybe he is correct and they are at the end of their patience.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @44 Troy

    Considering Nostrils' young age, you have to give him some leeway. After all if you read the excellent article posted by expbrit, you will begin to understand the alarming levels of physical and mental retardation that is affecting many Argentineans.

    Indeed, Nostrils has given up any pretense of engaging in discussion, instead attempting to position himself above it so as not to continually show his severe lack of debating or arguing skills. He is a cyber fetal position offering the smallest target possible.

    Pray away Toby, we'll all still be here tearing strips off your crumbling country. It is just one less troll spewing lies.

    Poppy and Troy, I consider this a job well done.

    www.aljazeera.com/programmes/peopleandpower/2013/03/201331313434142322

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    Why is it my children that you rejoice and exude the jubilee at the wish of Argentina crumbling?

    My children, Argentina has just graduated to “very high human development”. Your narrative of the last year is the only thing crumbling.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    My children, Argentina has just graduated to “very high human development”.

    ?

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @48 bush pilot

    Bush, I don't know what he is on about. It really IS nonsense.

    After the referendum they (the trolls) have nothing to argue. The TTT teen troll toby, just rattles on...

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @12 John Troll the 3rd (#)
    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:33 pm

    What you are best at is murdering the natives and stealing their land. And throwing nuns an priests out of aeroplanes. Still with your new spokesman for the sky fairy you're on track for national sainthood anyway I expect.

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @1 Think

    > A little correction on the title of this article....:

    How's about “Golden Goose killed in Mendoza”?

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I hardly think the Pope is a spokeman for the kirchnerites. The atheist need to stay on focus and remember Toy, ttt, nostildamus, the African, now john troll is a child, playing childish games in an adult world. He will get his due when he walks out of mom basement. Oh....no basements in Argentina. Eitherway.....sucks to live in messy mendoza

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @52 Captain Poppy (#)
    Mar 18th, 2013 - 10:02 am

    Fair play. I shall curb it a little. Sorry for the offence.

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Well, the big mouth, not thinking before they speak Rg pols saying they'll continue the project with or without the Brazilians.
    Do I smell nationalization this morning?
    I hope hope hope that dumb bunny takes it like she did YPF.
    Not a pesito will echo back from Dilma not a car crosses the border not a car
    Which could very well acceleration GM and Ford's exit
    never to return
    well at least not in any of our lifetime
    then all they can export is Soy...just Soy nothing else
    I will laugh and laugh

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #53 I am not offended, so no worries. Difficult to know exactly someones emotion from typing. Though raised a catholic, I can hardly consider myself a devote catholic. I have issues with organized religion in general, just another government, but I am not an atheist, nor a convinced believer.....I'm screwed....lol. I just think the Pope has bigger issues than speaking about the Falklands and I honestly believe that asslips is getting a smack down when she meets the Pope. If I am wrong, I will vehemently denouce the catholics.

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    I don't remember off hand what stake Dilma's government has in Vale, but I think it is in the region of 26%, therefore I believe that Dilma will not be pleased with De Vido's attack on her government. I can see CFK's support by Brasil rapidly crumbling!!!!!

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    27% and DIlma is already none to pleased. Dilma has her own economic problems to deal with without Asslips magnifying them. Since when can't cease operations over profitability, especially when you are talking over 30% inflation.
    It is also stranger that when you fire someone in Argentina you have to pay them like 18 months wages. The whole place is fucked

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    57. They only have to pay IF Vale has kept any $ in the country. My bet is they knew exactly what they were going to have to deal with and didn't leave un pesito to get stolen.
    What are the Rgs going to do nationalize???
    I hope so

    Mar 18th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    @1 A little correction to your correction: Bloomberg News reports Dilma is stepping in.
    Also, http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2013/03/18/whos-trading-with-argentina-not-brazil/#axzz2NxhIuiyi

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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