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Falkland Islands: More stunts can be expected from Argentina says visiting diplomat
“I THINK there is no doubt that the Argentine Government will continue to look for opportunities to pull stunts of one kind or another.”
The speaker was Dr Peter Hayes, the Director of the FCO’s Overseas Territories Directorate who was paying a short visit to the Falkland Islands last week. Read full article
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I THINK there is no doubt that the Argentine Government will continue to look for opportunities to pull stunts of one kind or another.” says Dr Peter Hayes....
I THINK he is right and, in the end we will pull those English squatters right out of them Islands.....
But...as sovereignty quite clearly lies with the UK under International Law its an open and shut case anyway. Everyone just has to ignore Rg hyperbole and get on with things..... Keep calm and carry on!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I THINK he is right and, in the end we will pull those English squatters right out of them Islands.....”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah great progress so far think. 200 years and nothing has changed.
Morning Think. You are just your porridge. - thick and mushy with very little taste. Mind you don't gum up your keyboard and stay away from those sheep!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0#1
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0in the end we will pull those English squatters right out of them Islands.....
Your true colours are now showing. You are advocating violence! Interesting, as the Arg. govt, says they are peaceful !
A good reason to keep UK forces on the islands.
@1 In your dreams, sonny boy. Here's a prediction. YOU won't be alive to see it IF it ever happens! You bunch of incompetents have made so many mistakes. First mistake, travelling to South America to murder and steal in the first place. Then, you picked the wrong place to trespass on. After that, the mistakes just build up. Trying to put a penal colony on someone else's territory. Sending a bunch of criminals and murderers to do it. Signing a treaty you didn't know how to read. Letting one of your vice-presidents tell the truth. Giving power to dumdum Peron. Letting him cosy up to Adolf. Trying more attempts at stealing someone else's territory. Starting, and losing, a war. And now, in the current world, doing many of the most stupid things you've ever tried. An “attempted” economic blockade. Sanctions in contravention of the UN Charter. Displaying your blundering, belligerent, bungling, bullying to the world and publicising it yourself. And, best of all, your continued whittering about inapplicable and irrelevant UN resolutions. For a “country” that repeatedly rushes to the UN to whinge, you display your total ignorance of its relevance or importance. You're a totally clueless and useless bunch. At the very least, you should wait until you've grown up!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pfft. The Kim Jong Un playbook. How original.
@1 Think
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0' in the end we will pull those English squatters right out of them Islands.....'
What a truly appalling thing to say!
You are talking about the Islanders home, you fascist prick.
You should apologise...
8 Steve-33-uk
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is a very generous post to I CAN'T THINK, aka The Turnip In Chief aka The Biggest Liar On MP by suggesting he is a prick.
I don't think he has one because he most certainly does not have the balls to go with it.
“That is one of their big miscalculations thinking they will wear down the Islanders and the UK when actually what they are doing is strengthening the resolve.”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Recollecting “The london Blitz” and what it did to British resolve.
One gets the idea that the Argentine government think the British are Argentines.
One gets the idea that the Argentine government think the British are Argentines.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nail On Head
That has been their problem facing every Int'l problem they've had and why they continue to fail and embarrass themselves year after year, decade after decade. They never learn.
Not a smart people
Think - what squatters are you refering to? According to the UN the Islanders are the legal residents so their interests are to be respected.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only people not welcome were your forces in the 1982 invasion. Thankfully you were taught a lesson you will never forget.
@11 Indeed, BA seems to have no idea how they look from the outside. While they are masters of projection, they cannot “project” outside of their bubble and see really how off color their attitudes are to the adults of the world.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think is a 1st generation Argentinean, he shows his true intellectual abilities when he calls Falkland Islanders squatters.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the inhabitants of the Islands are squatters then Think's parents by moving to Patagonia are fascist, genocidal colonists.
Now so many things make sense!
Think gets the term “squatters” from the brilliant legal mind of CFK. The twitterer in Chief, ruining her country over the last decade while she plays a mean girl on twitter.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is there anyone not laughing at these people?
Tell us dear Think what are squatters rights under Argentine law? I will bet you U$1000 or $8500 pesos that after 180 years of continued occupancy and making improvements to said property, they are the owners or the land.
Want to bet?
Come one
You can't lose can you?
A stunt is a performance. I read what Cristina wrote, its a desperate attack and those with an education higher than a 3rd grader can see that. Read how often she tries to attack the mind, she tried it with college students here in the states.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, by the way, when my children were in 3rd grade, they knew that just because an island is 350 miles away does not justify sovereignty. Visiting lovely Bermuda, very close to the US, is just one example of many.
Wer nut az dum as u tink.
She should be seducing, not pissing off, but apparently she can't do that either and the world can see her folly.
We, the Brits, should wear down the Argentines, telling them how irresponsible they are telling their school children that the Falklands belong to Argentina and writing it into their constitution based on such a tenuous or, at best, finely balanced claim.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina needs friends, trade and investment to realise its potential. CFK's and Timerman's policy towards us and, at a remove, our friends in the Commonwealth, EU and Northern Hemisphere, is utterly short-sighted.
The 1982 Task Force did Argentina and Latam an enormous favour by showing them how pathetic their military dictatorships were. Now Latam needs to raise its game a little further.
Think, do you know the old comic strip “Pogo”? My favorite quote from the series could in fact very well apply to my Argentine friends that are about to lose their trousers in the current court battle regarding unpaid debt. “We have met the enemy, and he is us...” Instead of seriously concentrating to negotiate a solution to paying debts, CFK and her cronieies make a big fuss over islands that were never theirs to start with... Never the less, next week should be entertaining...
Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, where is the CFK worshipers on the thread?
@17
Mar 30th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stand up comedy maybe a possible path for you. “Argentina needs Europe and the USA”, you are failing societies, disintegrating nations, spiraling into poverty, despair, and utter irrelevance.
My little gift to you Europeans... if things are so wonderful there, one would surely be able to tell from the glowing faces of your leaders basking in the sun of prosperity, growth, progress, and social contentment in your countries right???
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... wise words whoever said “pictures are worth 1000 words”. Make that a million.
And those are not old pictures:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg (March 11)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg (March 29)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg (March 29)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg (March 28)
jajajajajaja... We are bracing for another mass migration of you tossers to Argentina.
Dr. Hayes, Director for the Overseas Territories, wants to “start the process of educating myself about the Falkland Islands”. A good start would be reading UN Resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas and the 4th Committee's background reports. Here he will quickly discover that the “population” of the Falkland Islands does not have the right of self-determination, reserved for “peoples” in the UN Charter. Then the referendum becomes pie-in-the-sky.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah...but there is also the question of sovereignty, and with that Arg doesn't have a leg to stand on does it? Otherwise no case in the ICJ, just like a one legged pirate. Chuckle chuckle
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, you should go back to exercising your forefingers by your normal method. One day you will become a grown up.
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4329/europeach.jpg
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at the prosperity in those European faces!
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look at their leader's faces. Of course the British, Spanish, Italians, and Germans will use Argentina as an escapegoat to distract their despairing citizens of their own problems. It's all Argentina's fault for talking about the Faklands, for buying out YPF, for not paying back the crooked Italian and Geman bondholders, for restricting French imports into Argentina.
Argentina is the only thing Europeans have left to justify their failures.
@19 ... Hmmm, and CFK is an enlightened intellectual at the top of her game...
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Re downward spiral... Send us a postcard when you are there next week, we'll let you know if we want to come.
Much fun to be had here. Where shall I start? How about “because the Islanders had taken an opportunity into their own hands and made it happen. It was, said Dr Hayes, a good time to start the process of talking about how the referendum would work to the benefit of the Islanders in the long term.”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dr Hayes clearly supports the line that the Referendum was a Short/Sawle initiative by suggesting that someone might have given a thought or two about what to do with it before embarking on the initiative. With the responsible Minister and his own predecessor moved sideways prior to career downgrades, its no surprise to see him distancing himself from early involvement in this sorry and ill conceived tale.
As for his response to the question about stage management, it must be a case of misreporting. He surely realises that the International Observation effort was as much stage managed as the voting itself. Not fiddled, just an entirely predictable outcome.
Misreporting must be to blame for this gem too “Asked whether the Falklands referendum might encourage other Overseas Territories along the path towards greater autonomy...”. How can a consultative referendum designed to reinforce the status quo be seen as an encouragement for anywhere seeking greater autonomy to do the same? If that was what was wanted there should have been a No vote.
Finally, I too find it unacceptable to say that the views of the people don't matter. Of course they matter and should be taken into account as British policy on the Islands develops. No doubt about it.
“Stunt” is a term usually used to describe circus performers' acts. In this case, he must be referring to the “payasos” of the Kirchner circus.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very apt, I think!
@24 - hate to rain on your self-pity parade, but Argentina is very seldom mentioned in the European press, or by European leaders.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the Rg desperation about sovereignty and legal referendums and yet they don't go to the IJC. Why? Because its all bulshit, hyperbole and utter tripe. All they can do is whinge, whine, plead and cry like babies. Reminds me of those whiney kids that are having tantrums in a supermarket.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timermans trip to London - diplomatic failure
Timermans trip to lobby Ban Ki Moon - total failure and step backwards
KFC trip to see Pope - failure
1982 Falklands Invasion - humiliating failure
All they can do is rant on Twitter and beg support from local SA basket case nations, dictators and despots.
Meanwhile - Falklanders and Brits Keep Calm and Carry on!
What a comedy... Most entertaining, sometimes more amusing than Top Gear and even more childish :-))))))
@24 JT3
Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's an “escapegoat”? Oh a scapegoat.
No, when Timerman was in London it was not high on the news agenda and the FCO statements were fairly low key. No big speeches or tub-thumping.
Argentina is a political irrelevance in Europe but is composed of a people we feel vaguely sorry for, so there is no great kudos in getting one over on it.
Accusing Europeans of using Argentina as a distraction for internal problems is highly Freudian. The whole world knows that Argentinian rhetoric on the Falklands is inversely proportional to its economic success so no-one is ever fooled.
@20 devolverislas ”A good start would be reading UN Resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have just read this UN resolution - Spanish and English versions - and can find NO reference at all to the Falkland Islanders not having the right of self-determination. Are you sure you have read UN resolution 2605? If so please quote that part of it which says what you claim it says!
This is just another stunt by an Argentine troll!
#24 Rsole, soft brain. Campo papa Medoza steekin dump! Villa Lugano nBA nother steenk dump. Nuthin like that in Europe anywher. Talk thu rong hole. Prat. Arg all steenk, dump everwher all over. Like big trash dump Ful of nancys too, like you i think
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0General Assembly resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas calls for the ”peaceful solution to the problem bearing in mind provisions and objectives of Charter of UN and of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) and the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands”.
Please note:-
1) The interests, not the wishes, of islanders are to be taken into account.
2) The word “population” is used wisely, to distinguish the islanders from a “people”.
There is no scenario, other than at the request of the islanders, that Argentina is going to gain control of the islands. The actions of the UK are purely reactionary to Argentina's worthless complaining. Describe to me please how Argentinas actions are going to result in sovereignty being transferred.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing that needs transfering are the millions of dollors Kirchner and her coke head son Maximo have stolen from there own nation-prove me wrong Argentine greaeballs.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Kirchner / Official
•Even before she was elected president of Argentina, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner carried the haze of corruption. In the most famous case, an emissary from Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela, was discovered at the Buenos Aires airport carrying a briefcase stuffed with $800,000 in cash, destined, he later told the FBI, to support Kirchner’s presidential bid. Kirchner denied the allegation. Within Argentina, many question the huge fortune Kirchner and her late husband Nestor amassed since taking public office. Her declared personal wealth stands at $13.8 million, up from $500,000 when the couple first entered national politics. Kirchner cites income from real estate and hotels the couple had purchased to explain the 2,600 percent return on the couple’s investment purse. Corruption watchers complain that her government has neutered government oversight, giving auditing posts to cronies compromised by conflicts of interest. The result: corruption cases take an average of 14 years to work through the system, according to the non-profit Center for the Study and Prevention of Economic Crimes, and only 15 in 750 cases have led to convicti
#34. Yes, the Interests of your own dissidents let alone the Islanders were taken into account by your beloved Junta who voided 2065 when you invaded the Islands and broke the peace. And divorcing the people who make populations all those little-p people who always get crushed by fascists like you in the name of the big-P “People.” Typical fascist rhetoric.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ANDY65
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't you remember what Fergie Ferguson tried to collect from selling Prince Andrew personal information to an UK reporter?
She wanted $700,000 usa dollars because she is BROKE!
Mrs.Kirchner owns properties in Patagonia that increases in value every year!
Her biography worth 5 millons usa dollars.
How much your biography worth?
@ 34 Devolverislas Your interpretation is clearly just YOUR personal interpretation. Only Argentine trolls could possibly could agree with you/
Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime, the following link is very much of interest.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1850_Convention_of_Settlement
With the omission of any reference to the Argentine spurious claim to the Falklands/Malvinas in the document Article VII clearly governs the situation.
This is why Argentina fails to take advantage of the International Court of Justice. Once the this treaty is shown to the magistrates its case will be dismissed.
#38 Fergie fat frump, nuthin to England
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prepar yself http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01683/SNN0308CUT--_1683733a.jpg
ooooer!
Mrs.Kirchner owns properties in Patagonia that increases in value every year!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the real question is, how much do they increase by? 25% or 10% ?
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 38 Zulema Is that your real name? Because what you have posted sounds like the sort of nonsense which La Ckretina send out on Twitter!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0La Kretina's wealth has been acquired through corruption - simple as that! Fergie's attempt to get USD700,000 from her former husband (Was it really that much? I don't think so!) was just plain stupidity and no money changed hands unlike the daylight robbery being committed by la Kretina on the Argentine people.
As far as La Kretina's autobiography (or biography) being worth USD 5 millions - that is just HER wishful thinking and has about as much connection with reality with my wish to win the Euroean Lottery of EUR200 million - it will never happen!
@38
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe she is worth 5 million U$D but you all contributed to it. Argentina polititions are all robbing you blind, wake up. Incidently how much are you worth, don't answer that ( Most Argentinians are liars anyway.)
I can easily accept that ex members of the royal family had/have a lot of flaws. And they were ridiculed for it in their time.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you accept the many flaws of your current president who has ultimate say on what happens to your country?
Your immature and unwarranted description of Diana Spencer and Sarah Ferguson could perhaps equally apply to the three wives of Juan Domingo Perón, especially to Santa Evita, and to la Kretina.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Zulema You make a good sheep unlike you I would not support any of our MPs or royal family who commit fraud unlike your beloved botox queen and her dead husband Nazi Nestor who the POPE described as both being corrupt so tell us all how does coke head Maximo make is money??? perhaps Jorge Lanata must be wrong also when he describes Kirchner as corrupt
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(1)Think
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't usually pay attention to people like you, but as you have resorted to that Facist remark about removing forcibly the Islander,s may I ask you to continue in the same vein? It's just what we need since you and your kind are self-defeating. You raise barriers in your own mind to allow yourself clearer judgements.You won't react differently and I won't reply to anything you say- Life (which you do not rerspect)is much to short and fragile.
@Room101, Ignore THINK he could not remove snot from his nose he's an Argentine squatter living of the fat of the land in Northern Europe because Argentina is such a shit hole to live in
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34
Mar 30th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please note that 2065 wasn't just voided by the 1982 war. As we've all been told many times that rather unfortunate incident was really nothing to do with you, it was your evil twin brother all along. Best to pretend it never happened, really.
But then there'sthe other unfortunate matter of your constitutional update in the 1990s, which has made it clear that as far as Argentina is concerned, there can only be one outcome to any 'negotiation'.
Thus invalidating the terms and context of resolution 2065.
Oops.
“”Mrs.Kirchner owns properties in Patagonia that increases in value every year!
Mar 30th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Her biography worth 5 millons usa dollars.
How much your biography worth?“””
good point there: your president gets richer on USD$ whilst the country not only gets poorer but isnt allowed any USD$.
how embarrassing.
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good to see the usual sock-puppets back; odd how even the new ones have the same old holes in them.
Good link for Think: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
You can then embark on using a different writing style when posting as DoverOverDover - nobody will believe you still, but at least it would show you are making an effort. :-)
oh look Sussie's names for today are Zulema, ggg 99 and asd 88, very clever Sussie I find it highly amusing that you can call any woman a slut with your record, get streetside you drug crazed halfwit. The USN awaits your services
Mar 30th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, we all know the malvanistas who are cunning stunts, don't we?
Mar 30th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All we have to do is keep calm and carry on. When you think about some of the enemies we have faced over the years, the Argentines don't even make the scale, they are a pathetic joke of a people.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have the ability now to flatten Buenos Aires from the middle of the Atlantic. It's just a case of ignoring all their shite, which we can happily do. I can't imagine what it must be like for the countries that border them, that would be hard.
Well I see the trolls have slipped to a new lows through sheer desperation firstly with STINKS opening comment and then Sussies comments about Princess Diana, a woman revered and loved by people throughout nearly every country in the world, and who achieved more in her too short a life than CFK could ever dream off. Sussie of all people calling her a slut, people in glass houses sussie
Mar 30th, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54 britworker
Mar 30th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even now, the Internet reveals to Argentines, the true history of their nation and the Falklands, and defeat after defeat through every avenue they try, without Britain resorting to dirty poisonous rhetoric will erase their brainwashing. As you say, Keep Calm and Carry On.
34 Devolverislas
Mar 30th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That UN resolution, and your interpretation of it, are 50 years out of date. A lot of things have happened since then, most notably your country invalidating the resolution by invading the Falklands.
The other thing that has happened is that the world has moved on from thinking that you can subjugate an entire population against its will. You appear not to have noticed this and are stuck in some kind of colonialist time warp.
Can I ask you two questions, which I have asked many Argentines and never got a straight answer?
First, who do you think is best placed to decide what is in the Falkland Islanders' best interests, if not us?
Second, how do you propose to subjugate us, given that none of us want you?
So once again the argie indocronoughts play to defend the undefendable,
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is what happens when you are basically uneducated,
True,
Your very own constitution actually prevents you from obtaining the islands
Written by idiots and applied by fools,
It says you will accept nothing less than full sovereignty,
Thus you cannot enter talks, unless the out come was the capitulation of the islanders and the British government, and sovereignty was handed over to you,
Which cannot happen,
Thus talks cannot take place, because all you want and will accept is soverienty before hand,
Basically you have more chance of sinking the mighty US Fleet, blowing the mighty US AIRFORCE out of the sky,
Before you even get a look in.
lololol
you lost, get over it and grow up and stop acting like a fouth world country..
@34 Devolverislas
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just as Monty69 says, you guys broke the resolution and Ban Ki Moon has stated that Britain has broken no resolutions. Care to argue the point with him? I do seem to recall you being Secretary General of the UN.
You guys stopped talking and started shooting... the dispute is resolved... it remains as it is... unless the islanders change their mind. Fat chance.
but we will keep them susy,
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so why keep telling us to keep what we already have,
why dont you [susy] tell CFK to keep her slum-argiland up her arse-
if this suits you.
mm
I am new to this site. So hi all. I been watching the argentina argument and latin american arguments in amusement as they have created a whole mess which they are completely unaware of. The C24 decolonisation committee have stated that the Falklanders are an implanted population by conquest and have therefore no rights; this has been backed up by members of Mercours, Celac etc. So using the C24 and argentinias argument as basis of negotation, Patagonia must be returned to its original inhabitants...the current population has no rights or say in what happens by the way. Chile will have to give up Araucania, Brazil, Paraguay and Chile will have to cede provinces to Bolivia...nobody living there has no rights. So if we use the C24 and argentininas argument to its logical conclusion, the whole of South America will have to be re-drawn with several major countires losing significant provinces.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we know that
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the UN knows that
the world knows that,
but you try telling CFK and her sidekick tinman.
You don't have to tell CFK or Tinnerman that at all. You just have to quietly jog the Brazillians and other countires that are currently upporting argentina that by following the argument put forward by the C24 and what the C24 have stated and must therfore be applied fairly, that you Brazil will lose these provinces, Peru and chilie will lose these provinces etc. Oh and the people there...they have no rights at all on what happens to them.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very true,
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mind you i think C24 is past its sell by date and should be removed.
@60 ah so Sussie decides to post under her own name, why bother with all the other names then we all know its you, no one else would or could post such dribble in such a childish and foolish way. stick rgenweener up your very massive rg arse !!!!! that resides in the US...............There we can all do it don't make us big or clever does it, so if you have nothing to contribute to the discussion do what your best at, take your drugs and get streetside.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well yes and I strongly agree. But its the argument that the FO should now being put forward. Although I think Bolivia is going to shoot argentina in the foot anyway. If no one is aware Bolivia is going to the ICJ to request that provinces ceded to Chile be returned. The ICJ will probably say no. Therefore a legal precident has been created.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it will be interesting to read the case.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check this site out http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-21915577
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@65 I agree the C24 has proved itself to be a waste of time, effort and resources, what would happen if all the BOT's held a referendum and all the results were the same as the Falkland Islands, surely they would HAVE to be removed from the list as they have told the world thier wishes. What would happen if say Bermuda only 580 miles off the coast of North Carolina decided they wished to become an American OT would they then be listed as a colony of the US? Therefore remaining on the decolonization list. The whole thing is a crock of shite and should be disbanded forthwith
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 Falklanders use to have very strong ties with argentina and used to go to college there. Now did Falklanders destroy these links or did Argentina. I think you find Argentina did. Now please explain why you think the Falklanders are Flak-slum-lands. As far as I am aware there are no slums in Falklands, in fact they enjoy a higher standard of life than a lot of other places, encluding I may add parts of the United Kingdom. There is money to buiold a decent community college but for a population of 3000 it is currently economically unviable to build one. It is cheaper to fly them to the United Kingdom to continue their education there. So your getting economical and social factors a little confused.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for everyone who reads the Merocpress is a shite whole, again I disagree, as there is a wide ranging and healthy debate on many subjects on this site, the fact you are a member of this site suggests that you are obviously placing yourself in this “shit hole” category?
This season I am going to fish in malvinas Argentina everyone is welcome to join in the trip and keep all the fish we gather at no cost. Bring your guns as we will be shooting penguins for target practice as the brits hunt our whales.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@68 Sussie a while back you stated you lived in the US and weren't allowed back into rgenweener but would not tell us why, so the chances of you checking into a five star hotel in Argentina are remote, even if you were allowed back you probably couldn't afford it, and they wouldn't let you in anyway as even Rg hotels have standards.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You ranting about mercopress is even worse, as you have about ten log in names you must spend more time on here than anyone which makes you the biggest SHITEHOLE.
Anyway back to adulthood @69 Nota will be very interested how that pans out could open a large can of worms
@72. Sorry to correct you, you mean Japan, Norway and Iceland hunt your whales. as whaling no longer takes place by the UK, in gfact if you look on the Internation convention for the regulation of whaling you find the UK is a signatory as is Argentina. Sorry to correct your error.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@72 Ah PH is going to the Falklands all the way from Canada, why don't you invite Think from Sweden, Doderyoverdover from Dover/Eastleigh, Marcos A can share a flight with you from Canada and then of course Sussie and her many aliases from the US. A real international convention to shoot the penguins (well hard) but I suppose the FIDF could use you for live target practice.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@74 don't rush to correct poor PH's errors he makes that many you will soon get fed up with correcting him
@73 Yes it will open up a huge can of worms. The ICJ will in my opinion say no, mainly due to the amount of time gone past and the settlement of the poulation etc. This will then create a legal precedent for the Falklanders to use against the Argenmtina (which they will try to deny). But if the case Falklanders V argentina goes before the ICJ which is where the UK goverment is slowly manovering this case towards), it will be used as evidence in the case.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@76 very interesting thank you I will keep my eye on that one
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75 slattzzz: Timmerman could pop along as well and get a photo showing the international support he has.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“That UN resolution, and your interpretation of it, are 50 years out of date.”“”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0QFT
This should be ruddy obvious but it appears beyond the ken of many people that a resolution passed x decades ago can really have no legitimacy in todays world: these sort of resolutions requiring re-stating and re-issuing under a modern interpretation and, for that matter, law.
In this instance I very much doubt that any Argentine delegation would be allowed to get away with the outrageous lies it gave to the UN that went on to form the basis for a large number of these resolutions.
Put together it would seem inconceivable that the same resolutions would be passed without significant changes.... yet this is one further example of the hypocrisy of Argentina (in refusing to accept blame for the 1982 invasion and negation of any prior resolution) and the UN as a body for allowing such out-dated and legally-superceeded resolutions “stay on the books”.
It makes a mockery of the entire body.
No problem. To be honest I thought argentina and other countries would have picked it up due to the legal precedent it would create. The way I read it, if Bolivia wins, theyy can legally challenge Peru, Brasil, Paraguay etc for the formers provinces to be returned. This then leaves Argentina to challenge the UK, but also be challenged in return for the provinces taken during the conquest of the desert. The huge ramifications of the case will be one of the reasons the ICJ will say no. This then creates a legal precedent against Argentina when the case goes before the ICJ, the UK (representing ther Falklanders), continuious habitation by the Falklanders, First settlement by the Uk dating back 1765. The fact that the Vernet requested British Permission to land and reported to the British on a regular basis is a tact acknowledgement of the British claim to the Islands, (rather like a tenant requesting permission from the land lord for works and adjustment to the house), the facts that only the military side of the argentinia colony was removed and not the civilian. The only thing argentina has going for it is for the two months (december 1832 to Jan 1833). However two months of continuous population against 150 years will be a case of case dismissed.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@61 nota:
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi and welcome,
'Patagonia must be returned to its original inhabitants'
Some indians have already tried this through the Argentine courts, and were told that they were really migrants to the area so could f*** o**. Argentina seems to hold the position that there were no settled indians in Patagonia prior to the Invasion.
I'm afraid, since you are new, you have not yet come to understand that not only are some Argentinians massive hypocrites, but they also don't take any notice of court verdicts which go against them.
Their plan seems to be a mixture of unchecked overfishing and seige (very peaceful, or so they claim), with an unhealthy amount of lying to stir up regional support ,if you can call 1000+ miles away as being in the same region (again very peaceful - not).
#74 great then. But you are all invited to come fish in Malvinas Argentina and shoot our penguins for dog food.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#75 convention lol sounds great come to our penguin shooting convention and bring your choice of automatic gun and penguin call. 2000 penguin a day will keep the english illegal aliens away. Remember that shooting penguins and ducks is legal however people are protected if they are not some english illegal alien.
#80 making fishing in Malvinas Argentina legal for the world and exterminating the penguins is a good start to eradicated the brits. I doubt being in America for any period of time makes any eurotrash American. They are all still an alien race.
oh dear PH has lost the plot all together best to ignore it
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hello @82. I am not exactly sure where Malvinas Argentina is and doesnt appear on any national or international map. I assume your talking about the Falkland Islands? If so please refer to the name that they are internationally known as. Even the UN in its documentation refers to them as The Falklands Islands, (Malvinas). Not Malvinas Argentina. To make overfishing legal in the Falklands Islands...you would have to control the falkland islands...which argentina doe not. Getting guns into Falkalnds Islands will be very difficult as international airlines frown upon this. And how shooting penguins will keep the english away, I am not sure. Perhaps your very confused on this point.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will find that shooting anyone even if they are illegal or not is still Murder. That will get you twenty five years plus in the UK. As your obviously spouting premeditated murder that is 40 years plus.
You can actually become american by applying for citzenship, Sir anthony Hopkins has done it for example. The same as people taking citzenship in this country. So hence not an alien race.
@81, “Some indians have already tried this through the Argentine courts, and were told that they were really migrants to the area so could f*** o**. Argentina seems to hold the position that there were no settled indians in Patagonia prior to the Invasion.”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That or they consider their Genocide of then Desert to have been a success.
WHY CAN'T WE DO THE SAME?.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I heard on the news last week that president from bolivia evo morales decided to demand chile before the i. c. j., in relation to it's claim for acceding to the sea.
Many people in this forum know what i think about the idea of discussing the malvinas-falkland cause before the court. In fact, i debated in different oportunities with some people about arg.'s proposal of arbitration in 1884 and in 1888, which were rejected by the u. k., and about the u. k.'s idea of discussing the cases of the dependencies from the islands only, s. georgia and sandwich in 1947.
During my investigations about the historic and the legal aspects of this conflic, i had an interview with an ex professor of public international right from u. b. a. (university from buenos aires), and i asked her wether she thought that taking the case to the i. c. j. was a good idea, and she told me agreeded on that step.
However after 1947, there wasn't any other proposal of arbitration by none of the two nations. I have always thought that if none of the two parts proposes to give that step, is bacause perhaps neather arg. nor the u. k are sure of getting a positve result if the case is discussed before the court.
Anyway, beyond my thought, and beyond the omissions of both governments, i think that we all should wonder why can't we do the same than bolivia.
I think it's the only one way to finish with the u. k.'s hypocresy, every time it asks for the application of the right to self determination for this cause, when that right actually has never been applied for this case by the u. n., as it was for other colonial situations, due to the d. c. has always considered this case like a special colonial situation.
It's obvious and expectable that both governments tell just what is convenient for them, in reference to the historic and the legal aspects of this conflict, however, we must be intelligent, instead of buying so easily their propoganda like many people in this forum do.
@1 and 17. Please explain how you are not of implanted European decent?
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 086 axel arg
Mar 30th, 2013 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know why you can't do the same.
The UK government has said loudly and clearly that they will not discuss the future of the Falkland Islanders unless the Islanders wish it.
And we don't wish it.
And what you think, and your BA professor, and all your cronies in the Decolonisation Committee, doesn't matter.
@86 biased professor from low grade university is biased.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure why you don't speak to one from a good uni?
#37 , #39,#50,#57, #59, #79
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0General AssemblyResolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas has not been voided either by the war of 1982 or by a ruling from the United Nations. No UN member has applied to have it set aside. Therefore it is still in force.
Resolution 2065 sets the terms by which the dispute over sovereignty has to be decided between Argentina and the UK. These terms are no different now than they were in 1965. Any change can only be made with the approval of the General Assembly.
#50
Temporary Provision #1 of the revised Constitution of the Argentina Nation (22 August 1994) states: -
Argentina ratifies its legitimate and imprescriptible sovereignty over (the South Atlantic islands....) as part of national territory. The recovery of the said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty, respecting the way of life of their inhabitants, constitute a pemanent and irrenunciable objective of the Argentine people.
The Constitution of the Falkland Islands was in turn revised in 1997 and 2008, when the term “colony” was dropped from the preamble.
Neither the revised constitution of Argentina nor the amended constitution of the Falkland Islands have any bearing on the terms of the dispute as defined in Resolution 2065.
#57 The British and Argentine Governments must decide what are the best interests of the islanders.
It is not a question of the “subjugation” of the population. It is a question of deciding the ownership of the territory.
@90 Devolverislas:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just out of interest, what do you feel the Argentine government should do in order to meet the best interests of the islanders?
Alan R. What the fuck is wrong with your head?
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are no slums on the Falklands.
Unlike your bairos de miseria
Please go and die, and do it quitely as well you dogs wanger of a human being.
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Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@94 sussie get ur massive arse sreetside
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@91, That is obvious. Since they lack the decency and integrity and courage to speak with the Islanders, it is most likely. A) direct or indirect ethnic cleansing against the clearly democratically expressed wishes of the Islanders (that's right out of Thinks mouth) . Or B) Subjugation, despite Devolverislas's lies, and Forced Colonization of the Islands against the clearly democratically expressed wishes of the Falklanders.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0In both cases, living out their fascist dreams on the necks of the Islanders, in violation of the UN charter and the UN resolutions they barely pretend to hide their greed behind, no better than 21st century Neonazis going to the UN and demanding sovereignty “negotiations” to “back” Poland and Czechoslovakia. I thinks we can file it under “Duh,” don't you.
@92 Sussie you dolt I've done my bit for the Falklands I helped liberate it from your mob, what have you and your huge arse done for rgenweener............oh that's right something brilliant...................
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0YOU FOOKIN LEFT !!!!!
More stunts can be expected from uk like referendum, cameron and the english people implanted from Malvinas Islands says Argentinaand the world!!!
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@96 GFace :
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well your description does not fit with meeting the best interests of the islanders...
I'LL THROW THIS OPEN TO ALL ARGENTINEANS------
what, in your opinion, do you feel the Argentine government should do in order to meet the best interests of the islanders?
rgenweener? cunning stunts, more like stunning c*^
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Dr Hayes said that the more difficult and in some ways more offensive issue in their campaign is that the Argentines say that the views of the people do not matter; that it is about history and sovereignty, but not about the people.”
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly Mr. Hayes. I see you're making progress and understanding the basic problem of the Malvinas Argentinas.
It is a territorial dispute with South American and Argentine islands disputed by a European country's north end.
All the inventions of the British Foreign Office on false queries of occasional population of the islands, is misplaced, and do not fool anyone but us Argentines.
@101 I'm sorry jose but I don't understand what on earth you are trying to say, I'll pick you up on one point though Malvinas Argentina don not exist mate.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@94 sussie I've sat on bollards with a higher IQ than yours
@99. You need to verse yourself in the concept of “false consciousness,” the BFF of tyrants and fascists world wide. The Islanders didn't really WANT to vote to stay a BOT territory with devolved local government on most matters with an option to go independent. They REALLY wanted foreign micromanaged colonial rule against their traditions and values from a province younger than their liberation from them Junta people like Devolverislas proudly cheered on the day after the invasion, trading their Pounds for increasingly worthless Pesos from rabid inflation and for it to be a crime to get the math right (or even close) or to invest in sounder currency, a lapdog press under threat of state dispersal and most of all a few more years (maybe more, I mean who was to stop them) of the Junta standing in the necks of all Argentines, throwing little-p people (I believe fascist apologists like Devolverislas call them the “population” to justify their own lists to dominate the Islanders) from airplanes in the name of the Big-P People who better appreciate the cost they must pay to get back islands they never developed, never maintained and were never really theirs to begin with (It's those broader implications of their dearest wants and desires that are, literally, the killer). Or maybe they'd rather just be ethnically cleansed like Think wants.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Interests,” screenname, not “wishes,” donchaknow....
A Mercopress picture of this article, it could add the legend below:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“WANTED. THIEF OF TERRITORIES
REWARD: $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $”
@90. General Assembly Resolution 2065 confirms resolution 1514 covers the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas). You omit the constraints & modifying effect of:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 01. the provisions & objectives of the Charter of the United Nations
2. General Assembly Resolution 1514(XV)
place on defining what are:
3. the interests of the population of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas
Any interpretation 3. which are inconsistent with 1.& 2. or sets them aside are void. In addition the UK is the administrating County which reports to the C24 on the implementation of 1514 in the Falkland Islands, not Argentina, a third party interest only. In 1982 Argentina terminated negotiation
Nota Bene: Article 73 of the UN Treaty states:
Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for the administration of territories whose peoples have not yet attained a full measure of self-government recognize the principle that the interests of the inhabitants of these territories are paramount, & accept as a sacred trust the obligation to promote to the utmost, within the system of international peace & security established by the present Charter, the well-being of the inhabitants of these territories, &, to this end:
to ensure, with due respect for the culture of the peoples concerned, their political, economic, social, & educational advancement, their just treatment, & their protection against abuses;
to develop self-government, to take due account of the political aspirations of the peoples, & to assist them in the progressive development of their free political institutions, according to the particular circumstances of each
territory & its peoples & their varying stages of advancement;
Article 103 affirms in the event of a conflict between the obligations of the Members of the United Nations under the present Charter & their obligations under any other international agreement, their obligations under the present Charter shall prevail
The UN ICJ always upholds its Charter
@105 Thank you for reminding me that it is a sacred trust for the United Kingdom to reinforce the political, economic, social and educational capacities of the population of the Falkland Islands. The old ways of doing this are the best so let's encourage the migration of more skilled and educated British nationals, particularly British Citizens, from wherever to the Islands. They'll need somewhere to live and work but fortunately there's money in the Consolidated Fund for the necessary infrastructure development. Step forward the Falkland Island Company and its private construction partner and get building. No time to waste.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0(106) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0We Argies would much prefer you to keep your pom chavs hordes under control on your Northern Islands....
When you are at that, you could also pull your Squatting Kelpers out of our Malvinas and back home to good ol' England.....
They could all fit snuggly in the P&O Ventura. There would even be space for their pet sheeps.....
No time to waste, indeed......
@106 Sr Think, we will take your wishes into account. OK, done that. Now, about this sacred trust....
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0(108) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0........about that sacred trust....
The best way to protect the interests of England and the English Kelpers is, obviously, their repatriation to England......
For the “Patriotic Touch” (and a minor surcharge) they could even get their one way ticket on the RMS Queen Mary 2……
That would be a real classy English farewell……
I’d even stand on “Doradillo Beach” and wink them goodbye with tears in my eyes……
@90
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“There! We've painted ourselves into a corner! That'll show everyone how serious we are!”
#94
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0the Malvina Hotel looks like ,,,
You would be an expert on that point Sussie as a whorehouse, is the kind of establishment where you are employed.
#104
Where are you going to get the dollars to pay this reward ?
Steal them as usual ?
#109
What about the Kelpers who are not English ?
@109 Sr Think, the sanctity of the trust placed in the United Kingdom makes your talk of national interest and patriotic touches profane. On Easter Sunday of all days you should be ashamed of yourself. One for your next Confession, undoubtedly.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once again, like on every thread, the argentines refer to a decades old resolution prior to their termination of negotiations and then start taking about their real desire for ethnic cleansing.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their immorality is nauseating.
(111) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whatever gave you the idea that I’m One HolyApostolic?
Anyhow..................Did you lit a nice fire yesterday?
Or is that also been ”regulated away” in England.
@113 Sr Think, you will have to do much better than that if you seek to do the Devil's work and distract us from our Sacred Trust.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Talking of superstition Stink/Dod the Pope mentioned Syria, Koreas etc but no mention of the Falklands so Cristina and Timerman are weeping with frustration once again. No support in Rome, wasted journey to Morroco for Tango 1. Back to the drawing board.... How's your sporran swinging?
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like it takes 5-15 minutes to log out then in again under another nick. Seems like slow internet to me.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is that LEGAL term “Squatter” again...too bad the brilliant legal minds from Argentina don't seem to know what it means.
Not a smart people
(114) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean as good as Dr, Hayes from the English Foreign & Colonial Office is doing?
Excellent analysis of his words at (26) by the way….
Finally, I too find it unacceptable to say that the views of the English people don't matter.....
Of course they matter……................... in England.
No doubt about it.
THINK, DOVER
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0What in your opinions are the best interests of the FALKLAND ISLANDERS, I and most on this forum would welcome an answer.
@(118)
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0I refer to my posts (1), (106) & (108)
@108
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the good developers at DattAtec could be prevailed upon to include such a scene in the Malvinista version of Counter Strike? Maybe there are some photos of the Canberra sailing past Doradillo BeAch with 4000+ newly expelled Argentinian interlopers on board to provide inspiration?
Why are Argies arguing over what has already been settled,
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Their is no problem or dispute,
The islanders have freely and democratically exercised their right to choose, and they have freely chosen to remain British,
The British being a democracy accepts this decision,
And once again its always a dictatorship that refuses the free will of others to choose, unless they choose to be argentine, they don’t exist,
So how childish and immature does that make Argentina,
How embarrassing and shameful does that make CFK,
Basically if they choose to be British, [they don’t exist]
But if they are forced to be argentine, CFK will accept them,
A total affront to the free world, an insult to the UN,
And two fingers up to democracy.
The C24 should in my opinion, break up argentina,
Then the people there might be happy once again,
Instead of being manipulated all the time…
“”“”I doubt being in America for any period of time makes any eurotrash American. They are all still an alien race.“””
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0quoted for the hilarious irony ;-0
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oh lookie - THinko & DOverOVer posting within minutes of each other again - how do they do that all the time? Do they ring each other up and organise when they will post?
What? REALLY?
Its the same person using multiple accounts?
Crikey!
So you think that if you said “ the interests of the FALKLANDERS are to be repatriated to England ” to the UN they would agree to Argies “ colonising ” the FALKLANDS. You really are insane. I think their interest lays with their decision to remain a BOT. What about the Ameridians interests?
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turnip at (123)
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why do Turnips always try to put words in other peoples mouths?
Ahh Rg logic..always a wonder to behold.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@124 YOUR WORDS not mine
Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This reminds me of Argentinian logic:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220
just replace “Women” with “Argentinian”
90 Devolverislas
Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK government already has determined what is in our best interests, and that is for us to be asked what we want to do. We decide what is in our best interests and then tell the UK.
Argentina has no business at all in the matter. You don't have any way of knowing what is in our best interests, and therefore no way of protecting them.
And it is a question of 'subjugation' of a population. If the people who live in a territory unanimously reject a government imposed on them and resist it by whatever means, then you have no choice but to subjugate them by force. That's why you brought 10,000 troops with you the last time.
Our police keep order by the consent of the people; they don't carry guns, because that is part of our customs. We elect our own government, make our own laws, raise our own taxes and spend them how we choose. We educate our children in English and send them away to Britain to finish their education.
Unless you assume control over these things, you are not exercising sovereignty, UNLESS we become an overseas territory of Argentina, under a similar arrangement o the one we have with the UK. And that's never going to work, is it.
But the only way you'd get us to change what we do is at the point of a gun. Which is 'subjugation and domination by a foreign power', according to the UN.
You haven't thought this through properly. You have no way to get what you want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sis2e73qP_Y&feature=related
Mar 31st, 2013 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@118 I'm not here to opine on the best interests of those of my fellow British Citizens with Falkland Island status, I'm here to advocate for the much more numerous but grossly under-represented British Citizens with UK tax paying status. In particular, I'm here on behalf of the best interests of worthy but fiscally ignorant ex British servicemen and their dependants currently in receipt of index linked pensions. Most of all, though, I'm in pursuit of of my own best interests.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(130) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A clear as day answer to (118)
Congratulations ;-)
“It is the obvious which is so difficult to see most of the time. People say 'It's as plain as the nose on your face.......' But how much of the nose on your face can you see, unless someone holds a mirror up to you?”
I. A.
I think Cristina and Co need to ramp up the protests and use self-immolation!
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The best (or worst - depending on you viewpoint) from Arg. will be silly little adverts, computer games and ranting ambassadors.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The big story at the moment is the potential Default II, Argentina has squirmed and wriggled around it's obligations to bondholders, now it seems to have failed!
As much as our last remaining regime supporters also squirm and wriggle, their cause is lost.
How's that sky looking?
THINKEDOVER=Hinge and Brackett
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20,34,90 Well, it seems you can “read”, or at least copy. The problem seems to be your comprehension. Let's go with some “simplicities”. Resolution 2065 does say “Peoples”. But then, if you comprehend, that's because it's the NAME of the Committee. Then, of course, the “Committee” is not entitled to “interpret” the charter. Nor is it entitled to determine who are, or are not, “peoples”. But, in any event, you should have regard to Article 76 of the UN Charter. Then, 2065 alludes to 1514 (XV). But Britain didn't sign 1514. You can't force a nation/member to comply with a resolution it didn't sign up to in the first place. And, finally, all UN General Assembly resolutions are NON-BINDING. They are “advisory” only. They represent what the GA would like. And it is doubtful if the GA would have passed the resolution had they been told how many lies argieland told.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And so we come to your assertions @90. You seem to be under the impression that UN GA resolutions are international law. They aren't. As I have already pointed out. They don't have to be “set aside”. Compliance is voluntary. The “terms” by which the “dispute” can be settled are therefore irrelevant. The ONLY body with the authority to set any “terms of settlement” is the Security Council. Whose resolutions ARE binding. But argieland just ignored one of those, didn't it? What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. See how easy it is to destroy your contentions? And, on the subject of international law, there is a handy international legal principle. It says that territory or property held at the end of a conflict is the property of the possessor. That is GAME, SET and MATCH. And whether you accept it or not is also irrelevant. So get used to it!
130
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Most of all, though, I'm in pursuit of of my own best interests.”
You don't say. Why bother with the rest of the bullshit in your post that preceded that very clear last sentence?
Conqueror, Spot on.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The founding principle of the UN and General Assembly resolution 1514(XV) is clear and states, 'All peoples have the right to self-determination'.
Unfortunately for the Argies, THIS RIGHT IS NOT QUALIFIED, AND ATTEMPTS TO QUALIFY IT WITHIN THE UN HAVE BEEN REJECTED.
@Conqueror you must be congratulated for once again putting these freaks THINK, BENDOVER in there place
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Senator promotes signatures Malvinas Barrionuevo - It is part of a national campaign that aims to reach one million signatures calling for Britain to comply with the Resolution No. 2065 of the United Nations stating that Argentina and the United Kingdom of Great Britain should talk about the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands. President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner will personally order the Decolonization Committee meeting in July. In Jujuy, the company will begin today at the stadium on August 23.'
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ellibertario.com/2013/03/31/el-senador-barrionuevo-promueve-firmas-por-malvinas/
'Cristina remembers April 2 with Boudou and 100 staff - President Cristina Kirchner will arrive on Tuesday to Puerto Madryn with 100 staff and several ambassadors. Integrate the delegation also Vice President Amado Boudou. It will be the only speaker of the act by the 31 years of the Argentine landing in the Falkland Islands to be held in that city of Chubut from the 12.'
http://www.ellibertario.com/2013/03/31/el-senador-barrionuevo-promueve-firmas-por-malvinas/
She should change her initials to CJD- Lmfao. Check this out. Chuckle chuckle.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2300671/The-Falklands-belong-Argentina--year-old-knows--Argentina-president-Cristina-Kirchner-provokes-Britain-latest-tweet.html
@139 Steve-33-uk: “President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner will personally order the Decolonization Committee meeting in July”
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bias at the c24? What could ever give us that idea?
Again from my post @98
I'LL THROW THIS OPEN TO ALL ARGENTINEANS------
what, in your opinion, do you feel the Argentine government should do in order to meet the best interests of the islanders?
Answers that would be actually constructive to any negotiations between 'the parties' (as BKM put it).
Think (not your alter ego)? Raul? John Troll the 3rd? Simon68? Marcos Alejandro? axel arg? fill00000?
You will get nooothing from Argentineans, just like Manuel “they know nooothing!” Where is my Basil? Or, in the case of Stink, my sporran.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 How much they are worth is, to some extent, irrelevant. They are, effectively, stolen. Probably what would be termed “proceeds of crime”. You need to research how the Kirchners enabled large amounts of public land to be sold at rock-bottom prices. And then bought the land themselves. You can also research how a large amount of public money in Santa Fe province went “missing” whilst Papa Kirchner was the governor.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 It's Sussie. Don't you recognise her?
@54 Please! They are not “a people”. By their own definition, they are an “implanted population”. It's why they speak a European language.
@61 You misstate the situation. Although it's easy to do with argie numpties around. The fact is that, using the definitions that argies try to use, most of the populations of South America would have to leave. What, exactly, are those populations made up of? Germans, Italians, Portuguese, Spaniards, Welsh and so on. Argieland, for example, is 97% European. There's 97% that needs to leave! Brazil is 47.73% European. Chile is much better, only 30% European. Peru may be the best. Possibly only 11.6% European. That means than, averaged out, over 46% of those four populations need to leave.
@74 Don't be sorry. P-H is a numpty. Has he mentioned his 100% argie-built nuclear defence program yet? Besides, Malvinas Argentinas is in Cordoba Province. I think there may be as many as 3 lakes.
@80 There's a very simple legal principle that could already be used. Uti possidetis. Territory and property in the possession of one of the parties to a conflict, at the end of the conflict, remain the property of the possessor.
@86 Yeah. Shame about 1948 and 1955 though, isn't it?
@91 Tough for argieland and “the world” then, isn't it?
@100 Well, you argies are pretty easy to fool. Your “government” does it every day!
142 CaptainSilver:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silence is an answer in itself from those Argentineans that post on this thread from the point of my original putting of the question. I suppose silence is slightly less embarassing than Think's squirming.
José Malvinero, Devolverislas and Pirat-Hunter (just in case they feel left out) might also want to supply me with a constructive opinion to my @141 post.
@136 It's a small price to pay so you can be absolutely clear that I put the best interests of a whole lot more people ahead of yours. Very Utilitarian, that's me.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@131 Sr Think, the somebody whose holding up a mirror for andy65 needs to swap it for a non-distorting one. I particularly enjoyed @138 which caused me to break a golden rule and actually read a Conqueror post. I expected to be harangued in the fashion I became used to before I stopped reading his weekly shopping lists. But no I don't even get a mention. Still, if one lacks discriminatory skills as andy95 does it must be easy to confuse Devolverislas with Doveoverdover or with Think for that matter.
@142,144, As a certain sci-fi icon once said, “having is not so pleasing a thing after all as wanting.” And if their Junta-nostalgic fantasy comes true. They will still have a neofascist government who cannot manage the bountiful resources they truly have on their own continent, the oil if it flows will be wasted as well. They will have a worthless currency and it will still be a crime to do the math on it right, let alone invest in sounder assets. The press will still print to the approval of the government lest they be “regulated.” They will still have to trade favors with Iran and other loathsome regimes to gain validation and empty petty victories in global forums. They will still have no effective global credit. They will still know that their “allies” continue to roll their eyes at them behind their backs while publicly having to backing them for no other reasons than “solidarity” and dealing with their tantrums and passive aggression and broken accords just isn't worth it.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And when they take stock in it all they will be able to do is say “BOY we taught those few thousand 'brits' on the islands for humiliating our entire nation in 1982.”
And it won't make them feel better one bit.
The silence you hear is the part of them that's buried deep down that knows this.
@Doveoverdover, Still talking to yourself and your alter ego THINK what a sad twat you really are, If you were what you say you are and you came out with the shit you come out with in front of military personel you would get your ass kicked-your a sad twat and you know it.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0146. Spot on, great post.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@147 I value you your personal opinion, no matter how crass and poorly presented. That's only slightly less than I value Conqueror's opinion, of course.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Doveoverdover, Scum like you don't get an opinion,your a waste of space matey, is there not a train line near by you can take a jog along.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ Mr. Conqueror..
I haven’t read that Anti-Argentinean Justiciar Knight comments since about 2010…
At one time, Mr. Conqueror,under the pseudonym “agent0060”, did post a comment on the ”Irish Sun” declaring....:
“*”*“ I will be glad to travel to South America and execute potential terrorists, i.e. anyone incapable of accepting FIG and UK sovereignty ”*“*”
http://www.irishsun.com/index.php/sid/622599/scat/3a8a80d6f705f8cc
Such Public Statements are a clear infringement of following English legislation:
The Terrorism Act, 2000
The Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act,2001
The Prevention of Terrorism Act, 2005
The Terrorism Act, 2006
The Counter-Terrorism Act, 2008.
Unfortunately for Mr. Conqueror, the Irish Sun published his real name (Brian Riches) and email address …..
I wouldn’t recommend him to embark on any Malvinas Cruise with South American stopovers.
Such one could end being much longer than he expected…
Chuckle chuckle™
Head of BCRA is out today frimly stating there will not ba a devaluation after the elections.. absolutely no way no how.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My reply,
Liar liar pants on fire
In my experience whenever an Rg pol opens their mouth to say something will never ever happen...it is absolutely going to happen.
I can't be the only one who has seen this in action.
141 screenname (#)
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 31st, 2013 - 02:29 pm
“... what, in your opinion, do you feel the Argentine government should do in order to meet the best interests of the islanders?”
As no other Argentine has bothered to answer you, I'll make an intent:
1) The Argentine (mis)government should firstly forget about the Falkland Islands.
2) The Argentine (mis)government should start to take notice of what the Argentine people have massively demanded:
a) Solution to the dying economy
b) Solution to rising street crime
c) Solution to ridsing unmployment
d) Solution to lack of LNG for winter
e) Solution to the lack of investment in Argentine companies
f) A stop to confrontational politics
g) A return to the real world instead of the dream world of CFK's “relato”.
I could go on to even greater lengths, but if our “government” would just solve these problems, we would be well on the way to being a real country once again!!!!!!
Calling for mass protests in BA...again..gosh don't they get tired of it?
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/events/352673481505970
@153, I suspect, Simon, that list going to be filed as “wishes” rather than “interests” by the current government :-/
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@151 Oh, this Mr Riches.....
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.panorama.gi/newarch/111118/letters.htm
and this.....
http://www.panorama.gi/newarch/111118/letters.htm
I do see some distinct stylistic similarities. Better spelling and grammar than some though.
@153 Simon68: Thanks for your reply, far better than a wall of silence.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Out of interest, do you see any way that your government can both meet the best interests islanders and absorb the Falklands Islands et al into a Greater Argentina?
I understand you have given your opinion, but I wondered if this UN position has really been thought through by anyone in Argentina?
157 screenname (#)
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:30 pm
There is NO way that the Argentine “government” could absorb the Falkland Islands into the mainland nation and at the same tome meet the best interests of the Islanders. At this time the Argentine “government” does not have the best interests of the Argentine people at heart!!!!!!!!
156. Bullying someone by posting what may or may not be their real name makes you look weak, stupid and childish.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a common strategy for Think aka Marcos who do it whenever they can't come up with a decent reply.
Loser
@158 Simon68: Thanks Simon68
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(156) Mr. McDod
Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jupppp….. That's our Conqueror……:
“ In the appropriate circumstances, if British forces find themselves incapable of appropriate action, I will be glad to travel to South America and execute potential terrorists, i.e. anyone incapable of accepting FIG and UK sovereignty.
Brazil? Full of transexuals and queers. What are you going to do?
South America, listen up.
Royal Navy capabilities include cruise and nuclear missiles.
Push your luck and the British people will demand that UK forces use their capabilities.
S***est someone compares the UK missile capability to the Hiroshima bomb and then figures out how much of South America could be destroyed.
Personally, I'm in favour of destroying South America.
A lot less whingers around.
And the rest of the world might like to try paying attention.
And the USA need not think itself safe as an ally.
If you don't support your allies, you're not an ally.
And forget any Suez-type intervention.
How much does the UK know about UK defences?
How much could be removed by offshore nuclear missiles?
How much of your population will you sacrifice to your treachery?”
What a Waco...............
http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64454&page=2
145
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are any number of groups of people who may or may not be worse off than us Falkland Islanders. Although the record shows that Falkland Islanders are an extremely charitable bunch, that doesn't mean that we're going to give away all of our money (or whichever amount of it you would like to see) to every worse-off group. You must be crazed with envy to even suggest it.
You came on here, I THINK, within the last twelve months and your view at the beginning was that the Falkland Islanders are completely owned AND governed by the UK. Your response to this post will most likely be that this is still the case. Except of course, you want to drain us of our wealth so things mustn't be quite how you say they are. Otherwise the UK would already be draining us of our wealth. If we ARE completely owned AND governed by the UK, as you would like, why AREN'T the UK Gov't draining us of our wealth?
The answer of course, which makes you even more bitter, is that we are actually free to govern ourselves, create our own wealth and make our own decisions. Decisions within reason of course. After all we owe a great deal to the UK and we have always said we will, one day, repay what we can. Something you won't acknowledge. These days you seem to acknowledge that we are able to make many of our governance decisions ourselves.
That's not good enough for you though is it? Well guess what? That's tough for you. Luckily the UK Gov't doesn't see it your way. Luckily the vast majority of the UK's population doesn't see it your way. And, the bit that lets me sleep, not a single SAMA82 vet I've ever spoken to sees it your way. You're not a SAMA82 vet so you couldn't be expected to know what they went through but I've never spoken to ANY other service man or woman who sees it your way. So fill your boots mate.
How much of your personal wealth have you donated to your chosen cause for concern?
while many dumb f'ers with bad teeth from the UK are so obssessed with the falklands, islands close to Argentina (and belong to Argentina as we all know), they ignore reality
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article-2301737/Its-robbery-New-Cyprus-bombshell-Britons-told-lose-EVERYTHING-85k.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
(162) Joe Bloggs
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mr. McDod is a very generous man........
He has, from his own pocket, bought some 50£ worth of Borders & Southern shares in my name to initiate me in the joys of capitalism.....
We are doing wonderfully...
The initial 50£ capital has today an estimated value of about 15£......
I wonder what happens when our shares go into minus value?
Do we owe the company money then?
Joe, you are speaking as a free man, not like exile Stink /Dod who has to live in Scotland or somewhere to get a half decent existence, proven clearly by his posting times.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hard to understand someone like that from a failed nation. The politics of envy perhaps, or perhaps he would be a cartoneros in his homeland?
More delusions and brainwashing...
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Falklands fallen family will participate in a Mass and asked to reopen the case. They want the government to initiate a trial and to consider “war crime” the attack on the Belgrano...'
http://m.tn.com.ar/politica/malvinas-familiares-de-caidos-participaran-en-una-misa-y-pediran-reabrir-la-causa_379892
'Tribute to 31 years of the deed of Malvinas in Public TV - Airing this Monday from 20.30, as prior to the traditional vigil and the main event that lead President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, with Governor Martin Buzzi, in Puerto Madryn.
To commemorate the April 2 another anniversary of the Falklands heroics, LU 90 TV Channel 7, the Chubut Public TV, will broadcast a special tribute to the veterans and the consolidation of sovereign rights over the Malvinas Islands...'
http://m.tn.com.ar/politica/malvinas-familiares-de-caidos-participaran-en-una-misa-y-pediran-reabrir-la-causa_379892
Ha ha, celebrating a national humiliation, you couldn't make it up!
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0167. If they couldn't celebrate humiliation and loses they wouldn't be celebrating at all.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0163 Fido Dido
Mar 31st, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0International law's view of territorial claims based on proximity
Under the Palmas decision, three important rules for resolving island territorial disputes were decided:
Firstly, title based on contiguity has no standing in international law.
The Falklands/Malvinas Case Breaking the Deadlock in the Anglo-Argentine...
By Roberto C. Laver
p.74
International Court of Justice (ICJ) in the North Sea continental shelf cases, in which Denmark and the Netherlands based their claim inter alia on the doctrine of proximity, i.e., that the part of the continental shelf closest to the part of the state in question falls automatically under that state's jurisdiction. In these cases the ICJ rejected any contiguity type of approach. As for continuity, it is argued, the 1958 Geneva Convention on the Continental Shelf and Contiguous Zone, Article 1, now contained in the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention, Article 76, does not support the view that coastal states have sovereignty over islands above the continental shelf. On the contary it laid down doctrine that islands had their own “continental shelves,”
@164 Sr Think, thank you for your swift defence of my generosity in response to JB's temper tantrum of a post.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@162 JB. I'm not a member of the SAMA82. Chance found me in a bunker in the south of England in 1982 but then again they also serve who only update charts. They also serve who manage the accounts so if you could kindly arrange to have that debt exposed in this year's budget forecast your creditors would be very grateful. As for the wealth being “yours” I disagree because it's “ours”, a view also held by the UK Government. Like them, I have no doubts about UK's sovereignty over the Islands so I'm really looking forward to the creation of that “Sovereign Wealth Fund” as a home for the revenue. You can bet it will be directed to the purchase of UK Government Debt instruments, probably with a very low coupon.
CFK;S reply to the UN secretary.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-vys78sGB7Y
never tire, never stop laughing..
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@163 Fido Dildo
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Got it wrong again eh?
'Course you have, you don't have ANY Euros do you, and (from an atheist) thenk God you are not British and I bet the Dutch don't want you back either.
Keep on with your bitcoin pyramid selling at least you can afford one or two of those (I know about the claims, but we will see). Didn't like the shape of the 'value curve' IN DOLLARS no less. I thought you were going to break the dollar. Ha, ha, ha.
Funny you are another one who lives in the States and hates the Americans. I bet the DHS knows all about your badmouthing.
AND I bet deep in your past you are related to the other idiot, the one who lives in Canada: Prat Junta, you are after all two maggots in a pea pod.
@ 173 Clyde=tender 15 yrs old teenager
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I bet the DHS knows all about your badmouthing”
????
If you mean= the usa Department of Health Services (DHS) =
such deparment don't have any authority to stop any usa citizen for using derogatory words!
'Stand up for the Falklands - I am pleased to be able to tell Peter Flynn (letter, 27 March) that the general view is that we could actually defend the Falkland Islands.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'The Argentine armed forces are in such a hopeless state that if they tried to stage another invasion we would have ample time to get a T45 destroyer and an Astute class submarine in place. Given good luck the destroyer could bring down the entire Fuerza Aerea Argentina in a single salvo, and the Astute could follow up with conventional land-attack missiles to obliterate the airfields the attacks came from.
It is my guess that the Argentine government are well aware of this, and will restrain their actions to the windy rhetoric and economic bullying of a small and peaceful neighbour that they are currently indulging in.
Which is perhaps just as well if there are many people like Mr Flynn who believe that we should sell out a small and peaceful population against their democratically expressed wishes, in the interests of a quiet life.'
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-pessimism-about-our-planets-future-8555684.html
More RG Drivel...
'BUZZI: “CRISTINA ACHIEVING CONSENSUS ON THE MERITS OF FALKLAND” - Chubut Governor Martin Buzzi said that “President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner succeeded in building consensus among American allies and other continents on the legitimacy of Argentina's sovereignty” over the islands Falklands. Via a document released today, two days of 31 years met the Argentine troops landed in the southern archipelago, the president praised chubutense “diplomatic consistency and firmness of the position of the Argentine government.” Document entitled “Las Malvinas as democratic cause,” linking the war to the years of the dictatorship through the eyes of human rights....'
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-pessimism-about-our-planets-future-8555684.html
#174
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am immensely flattered !!!! My 46 year old daughter will be amazed at this revelation. It must have been from watching Dr Who and getting caught in a temporal time vortex - there can be no other explanation...or can there. MAYBE ITS BECAUSE YOU ARE A COMPLETE THICKO .
Fido Dildo and Don Gutters....what apt names for a plonker.
The second article made little sense,
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the brits should show Argentina,
What the Americans are showing North Korea,
Although we don’t have the same aircraft,
We could do an exercise in the Falklands, involving subs, and destroyers,
As a warning.
Justa thought.
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175 clyde15
he is just a child, and a rude one at that..
@90. Post Scriptum:
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”General AssemblyResolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas has not been voided either by the war of 1982 or by a ruling from the United Nations. No UN member has applied to have it set aside. Therefore it is still in force.”
Except that Resolution 2065 invited the Governments of Argentina & the UK to negotiate to find a PEACEFUL solution, but Argentina terminated these peaceful negotiations because the Junta would not agree to bear in mind the provisions & objectives of the UN Charter & UN Resolution 1514 which cover the case of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
Argentina broke the PEACE, chose war by force of arms to settle the dispute & unlawfully disregarded UN Security Council Resolution 502
The Falkland Islanders & the UK invoked their right to self-defense under Article 51 of the UN Charter, captured the defeated Argentine invasion force & retained full sovereignty under the principle uti possidetis, ita possideatis
The fact is Argentina terminated peaceful negotiations & failed to secure its claims by force; now the world has moved on a long way since 1982
Dr. Hayes correctly observes Argentina has not moved on but still persists in the direct political & economic persecution of Islanders
If Argentina wishes to dispute the status quo Argentina is free to make a claim at the UN International Court of Justice, but would risk losing due to extinct prescription, uti possidetis & the fact that the UN Charter governs this issue and is not retroactive before October 1945, so the territorial integrity of the member states as of 1945 is what prevails, i.e. the UK's sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, South Georgia, Sandwich Islands & surrounding maritime spaces
Right now the Falkland Islanders are determining for themselves their chosen future, which is free association with the UK as a British Overseas Territory. The British shall support them in their choices and defend them from Argentine aggression
End of story
170
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The money is well accounted for now. It's already sitting there for all to see. Why hasn't the UK Gov't taken it yet?
The results of your nonsensical bet will not be possible to judge. Like I said: we are going to pay the UK money when we decide the time is right. What I WILL bet you is that the money in the fund right now is about to be spent and not given to the UK.
At least we agree on one thing. I have no doubt about UK sovereignty of the Falklands and neither do the rest of us because it is our choice to have it that way. If and when we choose to change the status quo we have no doubt about our liberty to make that choice.
I find your campaign to support veterans a laudable one but take my advice. Don't hold out for money from the Falklands if you really want to assist them.
“”“@118 I'm not here to opine on the best interests of those of my fellow British Citizens with Falkland Island status, I'm here to advocate for the much more numerous but grossly under-represented British Citizens with UK tax paying status. In particular, I'm here on behalf of the best interests of worthy but fiscally ignorant ex British servicemen and their dependants currently in receipt of index linked pensions. Most of all, though, I'm in pursuit of of my own best interests.”“””
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0roflmao
you aint british and you dont represent anybody...
other than Thinks left testicle.
@Anbar, That son of a rat BENDOVER is no x military, no way would he talk like he does (well only behind a key board) he would be tarred and feathered if he spoke like he does in front of REAL military ,its a freak
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@180 andy65: 'BENDOVER is no x military'
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'He' seems to spout the same selfish crap that George Galloway comes out with, basically trying to buy off people from the UK from doing the right thing. The only problem is that the Falklands does not really affect South American trade. Argentina screws everyone over.
I think Think does rather well with him overall though, so I assume he is (very) vaguely based on someone British Think has served with in a UN mission.
Well, I say served. Think probably made the tea, which is why he is so bitter towards the British.
It is quite funny when Think makes really poor mistakes though. I missed his little one man chats after Timmerman visited the UN and he was too embarassed to turn up on here.
@177 Domingo: if anything Argentina has gone backwards, not moved on.
#181 Britain, the Falkland Islanders, David Cameron don't need to do anything. The Falklands remain British and your whingeing and whining has no effect whatsoever it is just entertainment for us. :-))))))
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@164
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should have bought YPF HA HA HA TOODLEPIP
@screenname, Dover and Think are the same person =THINKEDOVER soon to be PISSEDOVER
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same old crap THINK, We the Kelpers was here in the Falklands before you were in Argentina, I am going to start to claim patagonia as we were there before you too, also, can we have our sheep back? because they were there before Argentines too. “Argy Patagonia Belongs to the people of the Falkland Islands”!
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Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@178 Not with it, are you? The current money is ring fenced for oil related infrastructure investment with a view to facilitating further inward investment. Subsequently, there is a proposal for a “Sovereign Wealth Fund” to be managed in the City of London. The debt you say you will pay isn't on the books and it's a fantasy idea until it is. As for your views on the transfer of sovereignty, the 2008 Constitution says you'll have to clear it with the Governor first and we know who appoints him.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@179 and 180. I'm pleased you've each found an intellectual soul mate. Two braincells are better than one.
#187 You don't know who Captain Silver was do you? Wooden leg....parrot on his shoulder...Cap'n Flint... repeats everything you say... you remind us so much of him. :-)))). I'm off to bed now, anyone else want to play with this Troll? Yaaaawn.........zzzzz
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#186 Don't mention sheep to THINK. THINK likes sheep, but not to eat.... Just think typical Arg if you get my meaning. In 1982 it was all they came for.... :- (((
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@RogerO wooooooooooo Roger lets not get girly now, and let me tell you something that piece of shit Cristina Kirchner is nothing but lips, arse and mouth tell her to come to these shores and we will show her what bullying is
Mar 31st, 2013 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”@179 and 180. I'm pleased you've each found an intellectual soul mate. Two braincells are better than one.“”
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which just goes to show what a p-poor job you've made of pretending to be British if a single brain-cell can catch you out as a blatant sock-puppet.
Well done for shooting yourself in the foot (again) Mr ThinkoPinko.
:-0
@Anbar,You have to show pity on the likes of THINKEDOVER a very sad case of lonely person.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roger roger,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Said the robot in star wars.
What’s the difference between CFK and roger-ing
Depends on what type of plastic you use.
Roger, rather than being uneducated and rude,
Why not be nice and polite,
Roger and out
Chuckle chuckle.
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Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/04/01/all-fools-day/
Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
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Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@195 197 bit slow tonight Sussie, not many out on the street due to religious reasons or maybe they saw your massive fat arse and ran off
Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@199 no really is that why your so full of hot air and wind, or is your massive arse so slack now you can't control it
Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Brainless Turnip
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding your last sentance....when exactley? I dont see any changes?
You continue with the same old stuff, but i see no reslove, no results, no change, no strategy, no dates, no ideas, no braincell, and clearly NOT MUCH THINKING!!!!
So my little primate.....tell me something new and interesting, or is that out of your realm!
Where is Stink/Dod? Oh! I just thought, its All fools Day, he'll be leading the expatriate turnip celebrations... Oh no, that's tommorow when South Atlantic turnip land celebrates their 1982 humiliation?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@202 I can't speak for Sr Think but I'm sat in the conservatory with a cup of coffee, glancing occasionally at the coming and goings in the harbour, looking forward to a G&T with my old comrades at the Legion at lunchtime and reading this.....
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assets/47-13P.pdf
so that when someone with more than two braincells makes an observation about developments I'll be well informed on current, if non-joined up, thinking in them there islands.
Why do I get the impression that the Malvinistas and their diverse supporters are either 1) very immature adolescents or 2) permanent residents in establishments where they are under constant supervision?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@203 - DoD
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still pretending to have served in the Royal Navy I see. Well I thought we'd put that one to rest when you couldn't even understand Jack Speak (except the 'clinical' explanation given from the internet - that no true past or present sailor would ever use).
I find it fascinating that you have the obsession with the finances of the Falklands. It seems to me jealousy because they are doing so well, as opposed to your paymasters in La Campora.
Never mind, you will remain a poor never was, just like Argentina.
As for the thread, yup more stupid stunts from the desperately failing (and flailing) Argentine government.
Tomorrow they are going to celebrate the Junta's illegal invasion of the Falkland Islands: which none of them supported - honest!
I wonder if they realise just how that actually looks to the rest of the world?
It's like the Japanese celebrating the attack on Pearl Harbour or Nanking. It's like the Germans celebrating the attack on Czechoslovakia and Poland.
Celebrating the start of wars that they lost, whilst at the same time 'claiming' that they didn't support the war in any way whatsoever.
The world sees Argentina for the National Socialist hypocrites that you are.
The Falklands will never be Argentine, but then the Argentine government doesn't actually want the islands. I mean, who would they use as an excuse or a distraction to their bad governance and corruption?
@203 Think (DOD)
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was only last month you were saying that the Åland Islands approach would be your preferred solution, but now you want to ethnically cleanse the islanders!
THINK - DOD the same person???
'looking forward to a G&T with my old comrades at the Legion'...
About as believable as the mobile number you gave out a few weeks ago, actually being yours! (no-one ever picked up the phone)
So the real question is...
Which of the following mental disorders do you have???
'Compulsive lying or pathological lying are three of several terms applied by psychiatrists to the behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
or
'Multiple personality disorder (MPD), a mental disorder characterized by at least two distinct and relatively enduring identities '
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudologia_fantastica
It matters not what Argentina thinks or for that matter what THINK is saying the cold hard facts are that the Islanders have told the world that they do exist, Get used to it THINK because your frustrated whinging is having no effect at all. If it ever came about that Islanders were told they had to give up their birth place then by the same token Argentina would have to do exactly the same because THINK your people were indeed squatters on someone else's land.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds hard I know but your shouting about something you appear to know very little about. That is of course Human rights and Democracy. Something your parents forgot to include when they made you I guess.
I doubt you will come back with a sensible answer because I have noticed that in almost every case I have commented about you there has been silence and the reason being that I am a Falkland Islander to whom you cannot tolerate outsmarting you.
When you have the guts to return and live in Argentina then maybe you will begin to really understand just how those oppressed people are living. It is not a pretty site and you know it.
Poverty is something we Islanders do not have and you also know that but the problem is you cant and wont accept it because you think we do not actually exist.
You are in the eyes of the world truly Sad and pathetic . One who is always being laughed at and one who has not learned anything about the modern world and above all Democracy.
@203 Both sets of posters might feel comfortable in the Fletcher Memorial Home, established 1983.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@202 DoD,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you really mean to post “THEM there islands?”
Only ever heard one other poster refer to the Falklands as THEM islands.
Now who could that be?
@204. “Tomorrow they are going to celebrate the Junta's illegal invasion of the Falkland Islands: which none of them supported - honest!
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if they realise just how that actually looks to the rest of the world?
It's like the Japanese celebrating the attack on Pearl Harbour or Nanking. It's like the Germans celebrating the attack on Czechoslovakia and Poland. ”
And let us not forget that the current administration officially sanctioned the Junta's Hail Mary move to not just continue their regime but expand it on new people who have never had anything to do with AR with a 2 ARS coin while at the same time revoking pseudo amnesty on select junta members who should have been jailed years ago. Ttypical of the cognitive dissonance from AR Junta nostalgia crew that we see here? Cornering the competition? Or punishing them for letting their country down and failing hold the Islands and hold down the Islanders. Carol Merrill, I'll curtain number three.
Anyone smiling at the pride of their brief 82 conquest of a free people are explicity saying that no price for Argentina was too steep to pay in exchange for a brief moment of having the islanders under their collective fascist jackboot. The Germans and Japaneese to say the least least have truly shed their fascist paths and look at their invasions with shame. Argentina? Not so much.
@205steve33,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What legion was that? And what mobile number?
@202
Apr 01st, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you have been caught with your trousers down Mr Think/DOD.
You dozy twat.
I'm not sure if other residents of the UK think of the FI as a colony, but I certainly do. Tbh I couldn't really care less about the Islands or the residents, and don't even know why I bother looking at these articles, as they are crap and spammed by idiots.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway off topic, vote YES in 2014!!
I must protest that @ 203 is me, Gordo1 NOT DoD - he is @202!
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@212
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then why in the name of christ are you here then if you don't care about the islands or anything related to them? It's pretty much irrelevant, as to what you think isn't it?
Oh by the way, NO in 2014!!!
@213 Gordo1
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My bad, I am truly Sorry.
I could have sworn I did a straight copy and paste of the number and the name! Clyde15 @175 made the same mistake, I hope.
@210 Escoses Doido
I was quoting the bullsh*t THINK/DOD posted @202 about the legion.
But check the link below for the phone number DOD/THINK posted...
'120 Doveoverdover (#)
Jan 31st, 2013 - 09:04 pm
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@115 It would be a relief if you rang 07595 323703 right now.'
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/01/31/two-falklands-lawmakers-fly-to-london-to-meet-with-argentine-foreign-minister#comment210930
But as we know THINK has a mental disorder, so be warned the number could be anyones, he probably found it on google!
#174
Apr 01st, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My remarks were meant for #173 -Sorry !
Latest FI related news...
Apr 01st, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The struggle for the sovereignty of the Falklands should be everyone, because the Malvinas are Argentine” - This was stated by Norberto Aguirre, mayor of Eldorado and Falklands veteran, adding that the claim that is being done is historic and courageous, as never before made “and all Argentines should accompany this struggle to reclaim what is ours”.
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
‘Falklands oil transforms the life and economy of the islanders - Local government is already beginning to create a sovereign wealth fund to manage cash.’
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
‘OPEN EXHIBITION ON THE SILVER MALVINAS’
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
‘La Paz reaches British representative for referendum’
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
‘Reply to John Carlin for his article that insults the people of Argentina following the Falklands’
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
”The mines in the Falklands? These are removed by Zimbabweans'
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
‘Cristina Malvinas headline act in Madryn - It will be on Tuesday at 12.30. On Wednesday, sharing the stage with Scioli.’
http://www.misionesonline.net/noticias/01/04/2013/la-lucha-por-la-soberan-a-de-malvinas-deber-a-ser-de-todos-porque-las-malvinas-son-argentinas
“”“@202 I can't speak for Sr Think but I'm sat in the conservatory with a cup of coffee, glancing occasionally at the coming and goings in the harbour, looking forward to a G&T with my old comrades at the Legion at lunchtime and reading this.....”“”“
Apr 01st, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
The last time you claimed you could see into the harbour you said there was ship in port that wasnt even there at all!
...the ”man“ who also attends British legion functions that didnt happen and the ”Brit“ who ”forgot“ that Britain wasn't Roman Catholic...
and he';s doing it again!!!
Talk about a lack of braincells - just look in the mirror you prat!
I take it that you are Operator #7 and they didn't tell you that ”you“ had previously used the same way to ”Prove“ you were British and it totally backfired?
so so so funny - shoot your ”coordinator”.
lmfao
@218/In general to all Posters.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DOD is a fraud!!! Ignore any points he makes. Mr Think is nothing more than a hypocrite and a liar.
(202) Mr. McDod
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In them there islands”
A most perfect choice of fly........
Pom Squatterette Isolde (208) did bite as soon as it hit the water :-)))
@215 Steve:
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dod/think posted an o2 number, but nobody picked-up.
Must have gone to the legion and forgot their mobile.
(As if)
@220
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you stop with this charade? Its pretty obvious that you are DoD.
Much like your claim on the Falklands, you make no sense, lie and deceive.
@214 +220 I just thought I would drop by and see if the news was worthy of reading again, but it isn't so I'll be here even less than I already am.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Btw it will be a YES in 2014. And on a further note, we would thrive if independent ;)
@222 Conor J,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Squatter Think cannot help but lie, continuously.
He knows that his(?) country's ridiculous “claims” are all lies, so he has to lie to go along with it.
When he is found out he blusters, lies again, evades the question & then the insults start.
How very Argentine.
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Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(224) Chère Isolde
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an angler, it was enjoyable to see a Pom take Mr. McDod's bait.
As a man, it was fun to see a Blonde take Mr. McDod's bait.
Thanks for the healthy family entertainment, dahling.
Chuckle chuckle
@226
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just swam back across the harbour from the Legion. Cruise liners, Sr, thousands of them......
@223
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats not what the opinion polls or the general mode of the Scottish public think/say. Independent? not according to fat man Alex, the EU is a little wet dream of his.
@224
Very true.
@226
Brainwash much? Bit of a Wanker much? lol you are a nob.
@226 Think,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Refer to post #224.
How VERY Argentine.
“”“@218/In general to all Posters.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DOD is a fraud!!! Ignore any points he makes”“”
yes, we know - its just incredibly amusing to witness “him” making yet another massive cluster-frak of himself again, and then try to pretend it was on purpose.
you couldnt make up a more incompetent group if you tried..... ah, well, then again: CFKs Government would qualify....
and“ New Labour”
@230
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True, still it is quite funny to see how thick, Mr Think is when it comes to geographical and political knowledge of the UK and to see his cock up when he stated that Britain was primarily Catholic as you rightly pointed out. Not to mention that when he is in a rush to communicate to his fake DoD identity you can often see small spelling and punctuation similarities. This just proves how much of an idiot, liar and cheat he is and so any moral high ground or point that he makes in future is irrelevant due to this consistent crappy deception.
(227) Mr. McDod
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Always nice to have some clean, innocent fun at the expense of ugly old turnips and cute young bints….
@228 Just a 5% swing and it's equal, so I think people are beginning to align themselves with the YES vote. Just wait until 12 months time when it will be 47% supporting it, then the final 6 will see it way over 50%. And I see with your comments about Mr Salmond, you obviously have no positives to say about the union. Keep that attitude up, as it will help the YES campaign greatly lol
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@233
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just a swing of 5% of all the poles I have seen that have figures even close to supporting independence, only a tiny handful could be classified as needing a 5% swing. The simple fact of the matter is, the majority of Scots don't want independence, Salmomd knows this and that is why its taken him three years to even come up with the wording of the question, he is stalling for time and it isn't' working for him.
“you obviously have no positives to say about the union.” I have many positives about retaining the 306 year old union as opposed to the 30 year old corrupt EU.
TWIMC
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ALBA 2014 YES
2014 YES ALBA
ALBA YES 2014
YES ALBA 2014
2014 ALBA YES
YES 2014 ALBA
@235
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like I said, as you have lied about your identity and presented us with with a false user to try and back up your pathetic and weak arguments, you have no right to comment and so your opinions are meaningless.
@232 Sr. Think
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is indeed but it would also be quite nice if just once someone would try to climb up to join us on the moral high ground or make a point about the article perhaps.
With that forlorn hope I wish you a good night.
@237
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you off to church Dod? How doe your Priest.....Minister, feel about you?
(237) Mr. McDod
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree.....
Would suit us right if all Englishman were as turnipy as those present in here.....
Would make winning the “Malvinas Issue” sooo much easier for us.....
Why so defensive Think?,
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l didn't even mention your name at post #208.
But you jumped right in at post # 220.
Methinks thou doth protesteth TOO much.
Feel guilty, perhaps?
Tsk tsk tsk, naughty Think.
@239 You have already won the Malvinas issue, but you will never win the Falkland Islands!
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(240) Chère Isolde
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have noticed many English persons in here citing the lines of that famous English tax evader and usurer...:
“Methinks thou doth protesteth TOO much.”
Do any of you know what those Shakespearean words mean?
Check it... ( No, not in your old Ozzie Macquarie Dictionary;-)
@242 you might think your clever think, but I think your not, your just an annoying weed amongst the vegetable patch.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@242 Think - how many times a day is your straight jacket released in order for you to post your nonsense?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0All Think ever does on these posts is moan and groan. mind you without a proper early education or is maybe he was educated think it is called brain washing in that Country across the water from us. Got to feel kind of sorry for them less informed characters .
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Think spent as much time looking at the future and less on raking up the past maybe think would have a better life. The past is a time line of events that one is supposed to learn from to avoid making the same mistakes again. Lucky for me and most Falkland Islanders the mistakes concerning our homeland happened long before we were born. We are only interested in looking forward and that is what we are doing and if Think believes that trying to use past history to make a claim the think has even more learning to do. Fact is Think has not actually included all Falkland History in the argument only those two moments when Argentina tried to possess the Islands. But we have got used to Argentina and that issue because the poor devils were never educated prior to or beyond that period.
@242 Think,
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0That may well be Think,
Not being a Literary person myself, l would never use that phrase in the way you might.
As you well know, it was intended in a colloquial sense, meaning that you are guilty of something & are trying to divert attention away from what you have done by doing too much protesting.
And you knew this, Think.
You are a past master at diverting subjects that you cannot answer because you will be proved to be wrong.
So, the moot question is, sr slippery one, did you post #202 on this thread?
You are definitely a suspect, Thinkus horrobilus.
“@202 I can't speak for Sr Think but I'm sat in the conservatory with a cup of coffee, glancing occasionally at the coming and goings in the harbour, looking forward to a G&T with my old comrades at the Legion at lunchtime and reading this.....”
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm note sure how this works in the rest of the UK, but in my own neck of the woods, just about the last place I would expect to find a former senior officer of the RN enjoying a lunchtime G&T with his old comrades, would be in the British Legion.
#242
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your quote is a misrepresentation from Hamlet ACT 111 scene 2 and said by Hamlet's mother Queen Gertrude.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
(246) Chère lsolde
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No dahling, I did not post #202 on this thread......
Some of you seem to be a bit confused because Mr. Doveoverdover and I evidently share some characteristics and have a similar sense of humour......
But so do you and Sussie......;-)
@246 You and your “friends” really shouldn't let yourselves be fooled into thinking that Sr Think and I are the same person. He has no public doubts about Argentinian sovereignty over the Malvinas whereas I have no doubts about British sovereignty over the Falklands whatsoever. You and they clearly harbour a great many doubts about both of these positions, rightly in his case but ungratefully rebellious in mine.
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@249 Think,
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, our good old friend, Sussie.
l though she was your sister? no? lol.
Sussie is some poor retarded homeless waif, who the Argentine Secret Service wind up just to see what type of damage she/he can do.
Probably now gets a place to sleep & 2 meals a day from her/his handlers.
Better than starving & living in cardboard boxes.
More inane comments can be expected from visiting British diplomats say the rest of us.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0#255
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What, like yours ?
(254) lsolde
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I already said in comment (249)........, evidently Sussie and you do share some characteristics and have a similar sense of humour......;-)
Your comparisons do not bother me dear Think.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0l think l have worked out both Sussie & you.
You are far more the dangerous of the two, with your ingrained lies.
Such a pity, your talents could have been put to a much more profitable use.
Sussie is nothing, l rarely answer her/him/them/it anymore.
l still maintain that she(?)is retarded/backward & being taken advantage of.
While you yourself are an out & out liar & hate us Brits with a passion.
Whatever your reasons, & l care not, be rest assured that the failed rogue state that you have hitched your wagon to, will NEVER get the Falklands.
And that too is a great pity that you have failed to make it in the modern world , because Argentina has such potential & could be the showcase of South America & a great place to live.
As it is, you are on a downward spiral to lower than Africa.
And its ALL your OWN doing.
Enjoy.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/30/falkland-islands-more-stunts-can-be-expected-from-argentina-says-visiting-diplomat#comment234798: I am not a visiting British diplomat.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@258 He's told you many many times. He doesn't hate us Brits he hates us being in possession of territory in the Southern Hemisphere. He's not a racist or a nationalist, he's a socialist-geographer with hemispheric apartheid tendencies. Try to forgive him, there are worse things to be - blinkered ungrateful colonist springs readily to mind.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0#259
Apr 04th, 2013 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I think we understand that !! I was referring to YOUR inane comments
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/30/falkland-islands-more-stunts-can-be-expected-from-argentina-says-visiting-diplomat#comment235107: How flattering you are. But I'm afraid that I cannot compete in the field of inane comments with visiting British diplomats who are, after all, are professionals.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@258Isolde
Apr 04th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said, you nailed Dame Dover/ Think, exactly.
Thinly veiled hatred is all too apparent.
@263 Not from me it isn't. Thinly veiled contempt is more my style.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@263 Not from me it isn't. Thinly veiled haughtiness from a superior Viking is more my style ;-)
Apr 04th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A “Vauxhaul” by any other name.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...would be a Vauxhall of corsa.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Devolverisla:
Apr 05th, 2013 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0The way you write “Return the Islands” is nonsense. It should be in the singular: Martín García is only one island, and that's the one that needs returning.
#262
Apr 05th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are too modest. In this field, you are a highly gifted amateur.
Good thing Brazil is on Argentinas side, and will have it's first nuclear-powered submarine ready in 2016.
Apr 05th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0270 Brazilian
Apr 05th, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what will that do for you that a non-nuclear sub could do?
I take it you know something about nuclear powered submarines then?
I suspect not though, whereas advanced ones are among the quietest possible vessels, the one Brasil is getting will not be latest generation and may well kettle louder than a good diesel sub, ala the Ausralian subs and so much cheaper to build and operate.
I understood from a government minister that the reason they are getting the subs is to take charge of the nuclear technology for peaceful purposes such as generation. Sounds like bullshit to me because many countries will build you advanced nuclear generation reactors far cheaper than the subs!
LOLs
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/30/falkland-islands-more-stunts-can-be-expected-from-argentina-says-visiting-diplomat#comment235583: More flattery - and from a man who is a master at the art of making inane comments.
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