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“Nothing or nobody” can separate Argentina and Uruguay, Mujica tells the world
Despite Uruguayan President Jose Mujica had anticipated he would give no further explanations about his at least controversial remarks about Argentina’s presidencial couple, Cristina and Néstor Kirchner, the Uruguayan leader on Friday midday stated in his daily broadcast that “nothing or nobody” could separate the brotherly nations. Read full article
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Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0An old jailbird just called…:
An old stubborn lady to be an old stubborn lady….
A cross-eyed political man to be a cross-eyed political man ….
Well…………
Happens to be that them jailbirds, old stubborn ladies and cross-eyed political men are the best presidents we have had in the history of our region….
You Europeans deal with your “wweet talking” Camerons, Bliars, Hollandes and Berlusconis……
I, personally, much prefer what we have down here…….
Well said Think.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Allow me to add Golden Brown to your list of great Europeans leaders, that great British leader who sold 60% of their gold reserves when they were at rock bottom price.
“Nothing or nobody” can separate Argentina and Uruguay, ”
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The River Plate seems to do quite a good job :-)
Took your time Tinkadova, not exactly spontaneous and for the record no one is the slightest bit interested in what you have down there. Your ugly, cross eyed
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0and corrupt politcians do however provide a measure of comic relief.
Great friends, like two bitchy members of cabin crew that smile at each other in the cabin then slag each other off in the galley. You could fill a mental hospital with South American politicians.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think and and his bum buddy try to put in another failed first strike. This whole story just proves the lie of unity. Never a truer word spoken when you don't know the mics on.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0She needs to lay off the foundation and stop looking like she's trying to give a blowjob every time she opens her mouth.
What was even better was the comment :-
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0'He went on talking with Enciso about trade relations with Argentina and Brazil and how difficult (‘mission impossible’) it was to deal with Argentina (‘a country with no real democratic institutions’), the Peronists and now Cristina Fernandez. All this despite “they have the best football players, three Nobel prizes in science and now a Pope” '
@Think
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have I just stumbled across your photos on FLICKR?
On the english news, “old lady” has been translated as “old hag”.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0She's certainly no lady so hag would be an apt description.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its really scary when some one speaks when they think the microphone is off , the truth starts to come out very scary here
Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why apologise when everything the Uruguayan president said is true he knows that the only difference is that he has to live right alongside the biggest fanatical creep Argentina has ever produced. Sad part is that Latin Americans seldom can speak out about their feelings because few have democracies so are likely to be severely punished by the biggest bully of all Argentina if they so much as speak one wrong word about that fanatic leader they have.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is so unpopular even in her own Country that if there was a true democracy in Argentina she would have been removed a long time ago. probably never would have got elected. Will be quite interesting to see how she fares next time around. Not that it will matter because Argentina is unlikely to get a real person as a leader with so many corrupt politician's to pick from.
Argentina is going through the worst political time since the Leopoldo Galtieri and his stupid plan to invade the Falklands was in the end his downfall. CFK knows that she can't use force because she also would be brought down as well if she did.
Kind of a catch twenty two situation .
The fact the police abandoned her to drown in the floods, and instead she had to rely on her hand-picked bodyguard of early-released La Campora murderers and rapists to keep her from the mob, says a whole lot about her popularity.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The oil rig that will soon be heading south to the Falklands might help to separate Uruguay from Argentina a bit.
Announcement within the next few months. Rig will be in place before xmas this year.
Chuckle chuckle.
#1 “Well…………
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Happens to be that them jailbirds, old stubborn ladies and cross-eyed political men are the best presidents we have had in the history of our region….
You Europeans deal with your “wweet talking” Camerons, Bliars, Hollandes and Berlusconis……
I, personally, much prefer what we have down here…….”
Brilliant Think! And Marcos is right about Brown too
Pretty rich of the Uruguy opposition to say he should apologize to Cristina now, after attacking him for years for being her ally and friend, seems like opposition for oppositions sake. In fact, especially now I see he was warned about the microphone, part of me thinks he might have said these things deliberately to shake off the pussy whipped image that the opposition have tarred him with. Which could make his policies of brotherhood and unity easier to get on with in the long run. Canny politician indeed, if this was the plan =)
I really can't see what all the fuss is about Mujica was only repeating what everyone else was saying..... No more lifts in Tango 1. Oh, I forgot they can't really take it anywhere except other pariah nations anyway?
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some new info for the English Turnips……
The recent flooding in La Plata City, Argentina, has made some little known facts surface……
Argentina’s President. Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner mother (Sra. Ofelia Wilhelm) and little sister, (Sra. Giselle Fernandez), both live in ordinary middle class houses, severely affected by the last flood, without electricity, gas, water or telephone, as the rest of their neighbors in La Plata City ……………
Despite the fact that, during the last 10 years, they have had a Son/Brother in law who was President of Argentina......
Despite the fact that, during the last 10 years, they have had a Daughter/Older sister that is currently President of Argentina…
http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/Cristina-Fernandez-chica-inundo-perder_3_895140487.html
What a corrupt family they must be !…………
PS:
Another video of a brave woman (and President) facing personally some, justifiable angry, neighbors in La Plata City…
http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/Cristina-Fernandez-chica-inundo-perder_3_895140487.html
(Both videos above were intentionallypicked from “El Clarín”; a newspaper that, by no means, can be accused of being Pro-Kirchner..)
Think
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean she is so selfish that she embezzles millions of dollars and still allows her mother to live in squalor....nice
Seems like poor gov't planning cost 1000s of people their life savings and 50+ thier lives. The Fed Gov't was required by the “courts” to mitigate flooding in La Plata but had done little to nothing in the last decade.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0La Plata has had major flooding 4X in the last decade where 1/2 the city was under water.
That was a decade where they had all the looted Billions to spend too.
What now when they have nothing left?
PRINT PRINT PRINT
Bring on Hyperinflation even faster
90% of the peso notes in circulation are $100!
When oh when will they come out with $1000 and admit defeat?
So Think where did an unemployed pig MAxiK get U$2mm to buy his palace? Mamma's stolen millions or Daddy's Santa Cruz retirement fund? I bet there is very little interaction between mother and daughter and grandma probably wants nothing to do with the old bag lady's or googly eye's stolen loot.
papering over the cracks.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0quite appropriate when discussing CFK.
yanqui
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You again with your pointy fingers?
Instead of telling Argentina how to plan for next natural disaster, join a welcome party for Katrina's younger sisters.
Stevie, Once we have a problem we fix it, unlike horrible Argentina where over and over again they have flooding, power outages, sewer water in the streets, etc etc and nothing is ever done!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0NO has new levies to withstand Cat 5+ hurricanes now.
What has CFK done for BA or La Plata or anywhere in ARG in the last decade?
Nothing
The bag lady should be tried for human right violations if not for killing people with trains or sewer water definitely for withholding cancer and HIV meds.
22
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Once we have a problem we fix it”
You mean the trigger finger gone frenzy?
Yes, lots of people to be tried in USA for crimes against humanity...
So you think she will be too huh?
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet the bag lady from BA is dragged through the streets like Mussolini or maybe gunned down like Chauchesku when it all comes down to the end.
All of the Ks the stolen Millions will be quietly transferred to the next Dictator
Over and over again it never changes there
Have long lines for gas yet? 17% is a lot to be missing when supply is so tight.
I wonder where the U$ will come from to import the missing supply.
When do you think they'll be forced to come out with The Nueva Peso or Peso Oro?
not too long now
So, essentially: no apology or change in opinion, but a little, teeny-weeny tiny itty-bitty little hint of a rapprochement closer to the normal public facade of “total friendship”.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0or, for those outside of politics: “Oh spin on it CFK”
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Why it ThinkoDover trying to persuade people that the CFK Nepotism Party hasnt made lots & lots & lots of money out of her family empire?
Might as well point at the sky and tell people it pink with purple spots and smells of cheese. (hmm.. actually sounds a bit like CFK.)
You are SO ruddy naive THink its astonishing.
Its a long-time since politics was the province of the “already rich” because they made so little money in the job. NOw its the province of those “who want to get rich”, for either legitimately or not, they all end up on the gravy-train of business directorships, speec-tours, memoirs and all the other associated BS that accompanies top-tier politicians nowadays.
To try to suggest that CFK and family are different is farce for many reasons, and incredibly naive: regardless of her choosing the legal or illegal avenues shes made a load and will make a load more from being president, and so will her family, regardless of how they hide the fact until she retires.
And before you go off on one of your ranty-sidetracks - Yes, I apply it to any and all politicians all around the world.... with the solitary exception, perhaps, of Mujica.
But then, he may be the exception that proves the rule.
Folks like Blair & Bush should stripped of money, liberty and put up on charges ensuring they end up in prison...and they can then debate the fairness of it with corrupt money-grabbers like CFK, also serving their terms for stealing from the people in one way or another.
No yanqui
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think CFK will continue changing Argentina for the better, all while you continue with your predictions and obvious anger for things not going your way :)
Stevie, Look over my posts, everything I have predicted is coming to fruition.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everything
The only road that is left is hyperinflation and depression. Unfortunately for the few decent Rgs that are left in the country it will be a generational depression.
Rgs get poorer and dumber every generation
#17 Well pointed out Think, and nice videos =)
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0#18 No silly I think he, and Occam's razor for that matter, are pointing out she's not the corrupt embezzler of millions you make her out to be!
BK you either have got to be kidding or retarded...
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the gem in the Kirchner Crown of Corruption and Fraud involves President Cristina Kirchner herself: the almost complete disappearance of hundreds of millions of dollars in public funds in her native Santa Cruz province in the Patagonia region, at the hands of her deceased husband, former President Néstor Kirchner back in the early nineties when he was Provincial Governor.
In 1992, Governor Néstor Kirchner and Provincial Deputy Cristina Kirchner intensely lobbied for President Carlos Menem and his Economy Minister Domingo Cavallo’s plan to sell the state oil giant YPF to Spain’s Repsol (probably a front for Britain’s BP).
As a reward for Kirchner’s services to Menem, in 1993 Santa Cruz Province was paid by the federal government $654 million in long-outstanding royalties owed by YPF.
Thus those federal funds became provincial funds, which Kirchner immediately expatriated. Today, almost 20 years later, no one knows exactly what became of that money.
http://rt.com/news/kirchner-president-public-argentina-527/
“”#18 No silly I think he, and Occam's razor for that matter, are pointing out she's not the corrupt embezzler of millions you make her out to be!“””
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I dont think siting Occams Razor is a good move when discussing CFKs familial embezzlement.
Unless you want people to be certain she & family are guilty.
Why should they be separated at all? Uruguay is closer to Argentina than the so-called Malvinas, so it could easily be made into a province. The Uruguayans are the same mix of Spanish and Italians as the Argentines. Until fifteen years ago, if you phoned Uruguay from Argentina, you used a domestic code, not an international one. Kirchner should be looking to invade and annex Uruguay as the twenty-fourth province.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”“To try to get to the bottom of this scandal a civil lawsuit was filed against Néstor Kirchner and his helpers in a Buenos Aires District Federal Economic Crimes Court in May 2004.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pressure from President Kirchner, however, ensured that in July 2005 this case was closed declaring Kirchner and his helpers innocent of any wrongdoing. The judge in this sentence? Santiago Maria Losada, Kirchner’s nephew-in-law…”“”“”
Occams Razor puts down BKs argument methinks.
Well.............
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know now what music I'll be dancing to on the next town party or three..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPZwlmj4hQ
Geeeee......
I luuuuuuv South-America :-)
rofl
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0that music is SERIOUSLY sheese
laughing my tits off its SO bad.
@20 Indeed, it's called “damage limitation”. I wonder if Mujica reads history books. And whether they are printed in argieland. Looking back, it seems that, around 1814, the area then called the Eastern Province joined with the provinces of Santa Fe and Entre Rios to resist the assumed authority of Buenos Aires. After a series of banditry incidents in territory claimed by the Portuguese Empire, Portugal invaded and subsequently annexed the territory under the name Cisplatine Province. After Brazilian independence in 1822 it became part of the Empire of Brazil with a greater degree of autonomy than other provinces. The United Provinces of the River Plate then indulged in a few years of subversion until the Eastern Bank declared independence from Brazil and allegiance to the United Provinces. That led to the Cisplatine War. And then to stalemate once the UP fleet had been destroyed and the inability of UP ground forces to capture any major “Uruguayan” cities. It was at this point when Britain stepped in and brokered a peace, the 1828 Treaty of Montevideo, which acknowledged the independence of the Cisplatine province under the name of Eastern Republic of Uruguay. Despite the destruction of its fleet and effective defeat, the argie navy kept naming new ships after those lost and after people and events. Things stayed fairly quiet until, in 1952, Peron attempted to curb “offshore banking” in Uruguay. Things went quiet again until argieland started the pulp mills dispute that began in 2003. The matter was eventually taken to the ICJ. Didn't help that argieland lost, a pulp mill was opened in 2007 and the “contamination” that argieland said it was concerned about turned out to be sewage from one of its own towns. Then there's the dredging of channels in the River Plate, necessary for access to Uruguayan ports, where argieland is dragging its feet. Then there was the scandal when argieland refused to buy back its currency exchanged by its nationals. All very “brotherly”!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think, BK
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0please respond to comments made @29, 32
36. They don't have a comment on the Ks corruption. When you control the courts you control the outcome.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why I keep saying the next gov't will quietly transfer all the stolen loot as soon as CFK and minions are in jail or dead.
That is the way it works in Banana Republics
You are only rich and safe for as long as you are in power and feared.
What is noticeably different are the angry crowds, they won't be able to contain their anger for much longer.
Price controls are failing (duh), everyone knows hyperinflation is on its way along with another long depression.
A 3 week cold snap should bring the bag lady from BA down.
Just 3 weeks under 40F in BA should do the trick
37 yankeeboy
Apr 06th, 2013 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know when Stevie / Guzz has lost the argument he changes the subject: “You mean the trigger finger gone frenzy?” @22 FFS!
38. He is jealous of the USA UK EU. The most secure investment that Rgs can make is buying a stove, refrigerator or car.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only place in the world where they go up in value year after year.
Can you imagine!
What a mess
and it will only accelerate now
(36) Tobers
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do I ask any of you to answer to the undocumented and unsubstantiated stories and red herrings, blossoming on the Internet, about Tony Bliar & Co. getting hundreds of millions of pounds from the Saudi Arms Deals?
Do I ask any of you to answer to the undocumented and unsubstantiated stories and red herrings, blossoming on the Internet, about Tony Bliar & Co. getting hundreds of millions of pounds from Muammar Gaddafi?
Do I ask any of you to answer to the undocumented and unsubstantiated stories and red herrings, blossoming on the Internet, about David Cameron & Co. getting hundreds of millions of pounds from the Indian Arms Deal?
Why would I, or any other Argentinean waste any time answering the worst Turnips in MercoPress about equally undocumented and unsubstantiated stories about the Kirchner’s getting hundreds of millions of dollars?
You want answers?
Ask intelligent questions then!
Not some turnipy ones about some undocumented and unsubstantiated stories and red herrings….
36. Told ya
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If a Politician isn't getting filthy rich in that horrible place the population thinks they are stupid.
It is the way it works there
always has always will
Southern Italians and Spanish
You don't expect them to actually work for a living do you?
Why bother when stealing is so much easier
Tinkadova
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I'm thinking that in actual fact, the old Lag has been giving the old Hag a seeing to.
Corruption and the Kirchner Family? who brought that up? Why so defensive?
He called her old but I really think he meant to emphasize her stubborness and of course, the media will pounce on it. The comment about Nestor was uncalled for.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs took another U$3B out of the banking system this past QUARTER...
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0rut ro
I wonder if they're afraid Crissy will take it to pay the gas man.
Probably
Are argentines just so stupid they don't realise they're being played by some lazy eyed dude, his fugly wife and their druggie kids? ... and yet she seems very popular.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WTF is that about then, eh?
@1 what we have down here?stink you don't live there though do you or your pal marcos
Apr 06th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The recent flooding in La Plata City, Argentina, has made some little known facts surface……I bet a lot of things surfaced STINKY things from the sewers
Dont expect any deviation from Stink/Dod from the script provided by HQ. I am not sure if its the Argie SI or the Mafia. He also gets a few $ every time he calls someone a turnip. It's an ill thought out strategy masterminded by Timerman. Thus, its certain to fail. ' Divert threads negative to Rgland at all costs' . He gets a Tesco shopping voucher every time he manages it. And, if its a weekend a deep fried Mars Bar bonus.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately, President Mujica is right. Nothing can separate Uruguay and Argentina, geographically that is. Anybody who has been to the two countries will know that Uruguayans and Argentines are very different animals. Politically speaking we have seldom been very close. The relationship deteriorated with the advent of Perón and even further with CFK.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect that Mujica said what he did on purpose, because he realizes that the Uruguayan electorate does not agree to his policy of appeasement, and he just wanted to show that in his heart of hearts he despises the Argentine government as much as everybody else. This certainly leaves turncoat Almagro out on a limb, doesn't it?
Uruguay is from Argentina (Vice-reinato del Plata). Cisplatina is from Brasil (Sacramento Colony). In XVIII century we cant secure Sacramento. Spanish broken our forces. Sorry!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#29 But YPF was only privatised in 1992, so the whole story has rather a huge hole in it, no?!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#36 I just have =)
#40 The difference is that the Saudi/Gaddafi stories about Blair are far better referenced!
#48 “I suspect that Mujica said what he did on purpose, because he realizes that the Uruguayan electorate does not agree to his policy of appeasement, and he just wanted to show that in his heart of hearts he despises the Argentine government as much as everybody else”
Thats kinda what I said. Except I imagine in his heart he doesn't despise the Argentine government at all, but sees them as fellow leftist comrades; but at least now the opposition can't call him a pussy whipped pushover...
he's a pussy whipped pushover...........there you go
Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Argentina are our brothers. There you go.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52 for now we'll see when the oil flows
Apr 06th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“brotherly nations”?
Apr 06th, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentina didnt see it that way so much so they dragged in uruguays abassador instead of laughing it off as “brothers” would, face it he dropped a bollock now hes trying to suck up to the wicked witch of the south before puts a curse on him......
what a neighbour....fook that!
Nothing or nobody” could separate the brotherly nations
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.....................
Sorry mate, I take back the good things I said,
Sadly we feel you have been got at,
CFK wins again,
Oh well, back to Chile of Brazil again.
mmmm
when the oil starts flowing in the Falklands (there are no malvinas) they will be falling over each other to offer assistance, trust me.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 050. What is the large whole you are talking about..please elaborate.
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nestor stole hundreds of millions of U$ from the people of Santa Cruz while he was governor. Then had the corruption case killed while Prez.
Doesn't take much brainpower to understand does it?
@12 “She is so unpopular even in her own Country that if there was a true democracy in Argentina she would have been removed a long time ago. probably never would have got elected. ”
Apr 06th, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if there was a true democracy CFK would've been elected, and reelected. The middle classes loved CFK despite crime and inflation because the economy was growing, and everyone could buy cheap TVs and cars in 30 monthly payments. I still remember back when everyone supported CFK just two years ago. That was when dollars starting flying out of the country. Everyone thought the situation would normalize after the elections, but instead of stopping things got worse. It wasn't until last year that CFK got unpopular here in Argentina.
#27 “Look over my posts, everything I have predicted is coming to fruition”
Apr 06th, 2013 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aye right, you predicted the collapse looong before now!
#54 “the wicked witch of the south”
But it was the Good Witch of the South, wasn't it? And if Cristina is the Good Witch of the South, suppose that makes Maggie the Wicked Witch of the West =)
@59 Maggie who? West of where? BK fook off and look at your phots of the botoxed one with some tissues. If a bloke wins the election next time are you still going to toss off to pictures of him? I seriously worry about you, I see you in a dark room wearing a nappy and sucking your thumb, whilst reading posts about TMBOA, you seriously need to get a life, try football, sorry you live in Scotland, try Curling that will give you an excuse to rub something vigourously
Apr 06th, 2013 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Try football”...
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you want to make BK a cheat too?
@59 either way she is a witch not a good one either , and should be burnt at the stake, with all that plastic,injected ass fat and botox she would burn for eternity solving argentinas energy crisis to boot....everyones a winner!
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hats off to “Igor The Cross-Eyed coke fiend” he decided to die so he didnt have to see her bubbling cheese on toast face again, and thats the truth.
But hey if you think shes good then thats your thing, some people thought hitler was good too.........sniff sniff...is that burnt cheese???
“Wicked Witch of the West”, her sister, “the Wicked Witch of the East”, “The Good Witch of the North”!!, and what's left ?
Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The MBOA, “Mad Bitch of the South” !
This got too big, but I guess given both of them share similar ideology and are close is worse, The last G20 was more intense in the way of veiled or actual insults, but as those politicians were close at all not much thought is given to it.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wicked Witches,
Apr 07th, 2013 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0did she not die under a house,
mmmm
well thats what it says in the wizard of ozz,,lolol.
Well one of the wicked witches had a monkey army arguably called 'Rakampora' that protected her from evil things like the truth.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it now ok to call Cristina Fernandez de Kirchener a ”hag (old lady)“ like we call Margaret Thatcher the ”Iron Lady“?
Apr 07th, 2013 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0But, I am bit confused was it ”Vaca“ or ”Vieja“?
In my parents latin based language spoken in the Alps the two words sound similar.
Before my dad passed away, when he used to be angry with an old woman down the road he would shout out both words to describe her, sometimes at the same time, both sounded similar. There was a lot of venom in his voice. But I was young, we were in the mountains and there were a lot of cows in the fields and old women about!
Are the two sides being tactful by saying it was ”hag“ and not ”cow”?
Cannot seperate the people of the two countries with a crowbar...
Apr 07th, 2013 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-D
59
Apr 07th, 2013 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aye thas reet ye wee fud.
No positive spin on this story for the trolls
Apr 07th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0love the way the bull@hit has returned with the recent quote from Jose, he bad mouthed the old witch , but now they are the firmest of friend , put the mask back on and keep your real impressions of the queen of the brown shirts to private Jose,
just pay lip service to her that usually makes her happy
The Argies are crying because he called her an old lady,
Apr 07th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0But its perfectly ok
For CFK to call our government pirates,
Hypercrits .
$400,000,000 for victims of the flood. Print Print Print
Apr 07th, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ggv't is trying to buy themselves out of controversy
I think the mass protest later this week may be the one that gets away from them
One can only hope
So Yankeeboy, and your wife? LOLOLOL
Apr 07th, 2013 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52 There's a BLACK sheep in virtually every “family”. The bitchy, the corrupt, the criminal, the feckless, the lazy, the vicious. That's argeland.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58 That would be with money stolen from ordinary citizens in Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan and the U.S. and other countries, who had invested their savings and retirement pensions in debt bonds. Doesn't that make you feel ashamed?
@59 Actually, there were Good Witches of the North, South and West. It's just that CFK is “new”. Until her, there was no Wicked Witch of the South.
@61 It's never been anything else!
@67 Stick with old bitch/cow/hag/slag and you can't go far wrong!
@71 Oh no, we're all “pirats”. Never mind that the first “person” that the United Provinces “sent”, David Jewett, was a pirate. There's no evidence that he was ever authorised to go to the Falkland Islands. Then there was sneaky, underhand Luis Vernet, who also engaged in piracy by illegally seizing 3 American vessels using powers he didn't legally have. As a thought, doesn't a “pirate” operate at sea? Pirates Jewett and Vernet certainly did. In fact, if you look at its history, argieland is, on a massive scale, what Port Royal once was. Home to criminals, murderers, pirates, privateers, robbers and thieves. Regrettably, unlike Port Royal, we can't look foward to an earthquake wiping the place out.
@72 That's $400 million of stolen money isn't it? Money owed to private citizens in Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan and the U.S. and other countries, who had invested their savings and retirement pensions in debt bonds. Is that dollars or useless pesos?
Troy Tempest @ 68
Apr 07th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not true. Uruguayans and Argentines are very different, but in order to realise you have to actually know both countries. Your statement is even more inaccurate than saying there's no difference, for instance, between England and Eire, or France and Belgium.
To call a Uruguayan Argentine is considered an insult, and the difference will be pointed out.
It is $400MM pesos so they will just print them.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This little disaster may turn out to be a very big problem for the gov't.
The YPF refinery which provides 175 of the gas in the country is not expected to be fully functional for 4 months! Which means they have to import much more fuel than they expected. More of a drain on the few U$ they have left. Plus they lose $ on every imported liter!
This is on top of what is turning out to be a very poor return on the Soy, much much less U$ is coming in than they hoped.
I hope the next mass protest turns ugly, really really ugly.
Nothing or nobody” can separate Argentina and Uruguay, Mujica tells the world
Apr 07th, 2013 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0except for the millions of barrels of oil under the Falklands (there are no malvinas)
Pepe was quoted as calling Nestor slimy in another interview
Apr 07th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is kinda fun to watch
@75ynsere
Apr 07th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My apologies, ynsere.
That remark was insulting and I was being smart-alecky.
I am finding it difficult to understand why Uruguay appears to have so much solidarity with Argentina, when one hears repeatedly that Argentina is uncooperative, bullying, lying, and wanting everything their way. This must be a very difficult neighbour to live with and do business with.
Argentinians think Uruguayos are beneath them and provincial. This solidarity they keep talking about is just talking. It doesn't really exist.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@80 yankeeboy - The Argentinians think EVERY OTHER NATION IN THE WORLD is beneath them - that is why they foolishly assume that every nation and forum in the world support their spurious claim for sovereignty of the Falklands/Malvinas. They are so bloody arrogant!
Apr 07th, 2013 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 2013 defence budget allows its operational vessels to spend only 10 days at sea, while the one available submarine San Juan managed just over six hours submerged after a complete overhaul before it needed more repairs.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Six week ago the fleet's Type 42 destroyer Santsima Trinidad suffered a catastrophic valve failure at the naval base in Puerto Belgrano and sank within minutes.
The only warship to venture out of Argentine waters last year broke down during exercises off Africa and needed urgent repairs in the South African port of Simonstown.
Since then not a single Argentine warship has left territorial waters.
To add to their humiliation the Argentine Navy has no ammunition for its warship-mounted guns.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/390027/Argentina-ships-shock-Less-than-half-of-the-country-s-navy-vessels-are-operational
Gordo
Apr 07th, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are arrogant indeed. At times, so bloody arrogant, we call them “the English of America”...
Ok Argentina wants Uruguay. But in spite of the Quisling fifth columists in the government aka as Huidibro and Alamgro and old Pepe bent on appeasement we are are sovreign nation and we like it that way.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok our military is a joke and would probably be over run even by the Argentine army
Buts its my home and even if I am over 70 I can still fire a rifle and hopefully take a few of the bastards with me
Hope I dont get captured as its a one way flight over the the River Plate as usual
'Argentina ships shock: Less than half of the country's navy vessels are operational - ARGENTINA'S Navy is so poorly funded that only 14 of its 42 vessels are operational - and these can only sail for 10 days at a time.'
Apr 07th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.express.co.uk/news/world/390027/Argentina-ships-shock-Less-than-half-of-the-country-s-navy-vessels-are-operational
'More reflections and polemics, after 31 years of recovery Malvinas'
www.tercerainformacion.es/spip.php?article49678
'The leader of the Gurkhas Malvinas reveals secrets'
www.mdzol.com/nota/457751-el-lider-de-los-gurkhas-devela-secretos-de-malvinas/
'“What is the Cause Malvinas example of national unity,” wanted Melella'
www.actualidadtdf.com.ar/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=8174:%E2%80%9Cque-la-causa-malvinas-sea-ejemplo-de-la-unidad-nacional%E2%80%9D-dese%C3%B3-melella&Itemid=87
'Cristina Kirchner returned to La Plata surrounded by leaders of La Campora'
www.clarin.com/politica/Inundaciones_en_La_Plata-Cristina_Kirchner_0_896910561.html
As usual you say redpoll.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cuando carajo te ensuciaste los dedos por alguien vos?
Don't victimize yourself, show some respect.
Troy Tempest @ 79
Apr 07th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's because we Uruguayans fear Argentina. Fear leads to loathing. We must learn to expect nothing good from Argentina, and try to have as little to do with them as possible. Just like the Falklands, but unfortunately the UK will not come to our rescue, and the distance is more like 300 yards than 300 miles. For generations we have remained independent by playing off Brazil and Argentina against each other, and nothing will change.
There is a scandal brewing over the flood death count. I guess CFK doesn't want it too look like she killed more than the 50+ they have reported.
Apr 07th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kinda like the murder/crime rates being kept artificially low or not reported at all for the last few years.
I guess Indec must in charge of that too...
ynsere
Apr 07th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's because we Uruguayans fear Argentina.”
Now I know you aren't Uruguayan.
That statement is so ridiculous, it can only come from an expat.
Stevie/Guzz Still skulking in Denmark?
Apr 07th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you call yourself uruguayo. Dont you know that your country is called the Republica Oriental del Uruguay and we are an independent nation whatever your politics are
. Oh you Danish psuedo Uruguayan Quisling, if it was Brazil that was treating us like Argentina does we would as patriots react the same
@83stevie
Apr 08th, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have to ask you after,
“Gordo
They are arrogant indeed. At times, so bloody arrogant, we call them “the English of America”...”
Do you hate “the English” ?
redpoll
Apr 08th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0You talk and talk, no matter who would do anything to Uruguay, you would still talk and talk. Just like last time, shouldn't you be just another expat.
Troy
Not at all, the English just have a reputation of being even more arrogant than the Porteños.
Stevie @ 89
Apr 08th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're wrong. I'm Uruguayan, and my family has been here since 1853. Most of my forebears are Basque and Gallego, but add in some Portuguese and a great-grandmother from Glasgow.
You're not here, you are not in contact with Uruguayans, you're a salaried troll, you are dismissed.
93
Apr 08th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great, then just disregard the last part of my sentence. The rest stands. You would still talk and talk. Just like last time.
One day, one Uruguayan president will get the idea that most of Argentina is better under Uruguayan administration.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:56 am - Link - Report abuse 095
Apr 11th, 2013 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What parts of Argentina would not be better under Uruguayan administration? Or British? Or Chilean? Or Paraguayan? Or Falkland Islands?
Its funny, I called Maggie the wicked witch on this thread, and a couple of days later she's dead and “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead” is climbing rapidly to the number 1 spot in the British charts - what an embarassment to the establishment...
Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0BK
Apr 11th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not supersticious, but could you come up with a name for Federico Franco, just in case?
#98 Well keeping on an Oz theme, he's certainly no James Franco =)
Apr 11th, 2013 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He doing his best to live up to his name though, I'll give him that...
Apr 11th, 2013 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#100 Certainly. Francisco that is, not James! Should also maybe add that wicked witch Maggie was no Mila Kunis =)
Apr 12th, 2013 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0BK
Apr 12th, 2013 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0both accounts going full tilt I see.
BK
Apr 12th, 2013 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least, this last two days, she finally did something good for the world she lived in...
Hugs to your UK
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