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Latam’s major defence fair opens in Brazil with 700 companies from 48 countries
Delegations from 65 countries some of them including Defence ministers will be attending the opening on Tuesday in Rio do Janeiro of the International Defence and Security Fair, (LAAD), the largest show of military equipment in Latin America. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMilitarisation of the South Atlantic anyone?
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where's CFK and he cronies with their denunciations now eh?
Well, wherever they are it won't be there seeing though they don't have an upturned helmet to piss in. It'd be like in whicker's world:
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK: How much is that attack craft?
Salesman: if you have to ask, you can't afford it.
But can she afford a copy of Photoshop so at least she can fake it?
Apr 09th, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment236840: What are you idiots talking about. The article has nothing to say about the future defense posture of Argentina (or Brazil for that matter).
Apr 09th, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 04
Apr 09th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back to sleep please,
The world arms South America, starting at the top,
And the juices will seep slowly down to the bottom,
Then sit back and watch the fireworks.
Is this the future
Or the greedy armament people just getting richer.
The future will tell..
One is so pleased to see that they , Latin America , will rearm . Surely North Korea and Iran could attack any moment so must be ready . But I forgot Mercosur loves Iran so why rearm ? To attack the USA or Paraguay !
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment237099: Latin America is not rearming. What gives you that idea?
Apr 10th, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0With respect to defense the region's concerns during the 20th century the chief sources of aggression have been the imperial powers - the US and the UK. And, given the later's continued war like posture it would be irresponsible of the several American countries not to attend to their defense needs.
If the UK and USA wanted to attack they would have done it many years ago . It just pathetic that these poor countries are spending so much on weapons . I hardly think that Bolivia will attack Chile .Or that Venezuela will invade Guyana . But thinking about it they could do it ! Fortunately Guyana has a defence treaty with the UK .
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is PATHETIC is the hungry, bankrupt economies of USA and Europe spending money on attacking other nations when their peoples are STARVING! Viva Venezuela! Viva argentina! La patria grande!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well we are going to ramp up our base in Paraguay, I wonder if we are looking in Uruguay too?
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment237382: But they have attacked many years ago.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 09
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For Bolívar
For San Martín
And for our own Artigas
La Patria Grande!!!
Rgs live in the past, why do they keep bringing events 100/200 years ago like they are somehow relevant today.
Apr 12th, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is really something mentally wrong with these people.
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Apr 14th, 2013 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And, given the later's continued war like posture it would be irresponsible of the several American countries not to attend to their defense needs.
Apart from defending the FALKLANDS , which, according to Arg. defence minister, would be invaded if it were not for the British presence,what has S.A, to fear ?
Give us the benefit of your strategic thinking.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment238589: You seem to have forgotten about the invasions of Iraq and Afganistan, and the threatened attacks on Iran, and so on. Both the US and UK are still ideologically imperialist.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0#14
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The “war like posture” to which you allude is a direct consequence of Argentina's bellicose attitude to the Falklands.
In 1982 we were attacked by Argentina which resulted in the deaths of many young men on both sides.
Argentina is still “demanding” that our territory be handed over to them. Considering the past, it would be remiss of the UK government to be caught unprepared again.
Yes, every country in SA should attend to their defence needs but there is no direct threat from the UK unless military adventurism from Argentina rears it's head again. If Argentina becomes a military power then Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay and Brazil should watch their backs !
“Both the US and UK are still ideologically imperialist.”
Almost a quote from chairman Mao's Little Red book !
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment238692: As you point out the UK has already demonstrated their belecose attitude. And they are the sole remaining foreign power in the American hemisphere. So, a country like Brazil looks at this situation and draws its conclusions.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK's actions around the world do not allow the countries of the region to take a relaxed attitude regarding its presence in the region.
This situation will persist until the UK returns the islands and evacuates the region. This means that the countries of the region will need to keep a stronger defense posture than they otherwise would have for the next 25 years.
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Apr 16th, 2013 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain the “only”foreign power in the region ? French Guiana ?
Of course, that would not fit your anti-British rhetoric.
So, Brazil is bolstering its defences because of an obvious threat of military action by the UK. By your estimation, the UK is the most serious threat to South America. Interesting conjecture but short on facts.
What aggressive military acts has the UK made to S.A. in the recent past.
To my knowledge we have said that we will defend the Falklands against Argentinian aggression as we did in 1982.
Please note the difference between offence and defence.
Defence is passive - not reacting unless attacked.
Offence is attacking and could be construed as a first strike against a foe.
In the Falklands, the UK has no offensive capability for its troops and the aircraft are air defence fighters, not ground attack aircraft.
You do not think that Argentina's attitude could be considered bellicose ? Threatening the Falklands population and denigrating them at all turns. A bit one-sided of you !
As I said already, Brazil is in more danger from a nut -case country like Argentina than the UK.
Chile is worried about the UK possibly attacking it ?
Who is their next door neighbour and what is their “amicable”
history with that country. Beagle channel etc.
So, to sum up, you are just trying to keep the pot boiling with random anti-British posts that have no bearing in reality.
Technical point, we cannot “return” the islands as they were NEVER a part of Argentina.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment238931: I stand corrected. I should have said the only war like foreign power. However, your point is well made. France needs to evacuate the region and hemisphere as well.
Apr 17th, 2013 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0My posts are not anti British. They are pro American. There is a difference.
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Apr 17th, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The only war-like foreign power.”
Let's see about that. Examine the UK's record in the last few decades - ignoring the Falklands.
Intervention with NATO to prevent genocide in Kosovo.
Sierra Leone, asked by the legitimate govt. to deal with an attack by rebel forces trying to overthrow the democratically elected govt.
Iraq. The jury is still out on that one.
Afghanistan, with NATO trying to destroy terrorist training camps which are a direct threat to our country, the West and possibly even S.A.
All these were war-like acts ?
Please give an example of war-like behaviour, (in recent times), by the UK that has not had implications for the defence of the Falklands.
Have we threatened Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay,Peru, Colombia, Venezuela or any other SA country with attack?
Why should the UK and France evacuate the hemisphere ?
Why have Latinos/Hispanics the right to all the continent of South America - by right of conquest or because “we want it” ?
Using your scenario then all of North America should belong to the USA and English speaking peoples. Lets have a clear division and everyone will be happy, or not !
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment239244: The jury is not out regarding Iraq. The invasion was illegal. The UK should be following Argentina's example and hold war crime trials.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not understand what you mean by 'my scenario' or why it should mean what you think it does. But, in the case of the US it is way too late for the outcome you posit (and desire?). You may not have noticed but the GOP has.
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Apr 18th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0It may yet come to that. In Argentina's war crime trials, they are purely against acts of murder and state terrorism against their OWN people. Technically this is not a war crime.
The war crimes were the treatment of the Falkland Islanders and the indiscriminate sowing of land mines etc.
YOU SAID
France needs to evacuate the region and hemisphere as well -(“as the British ”).
Southern hemisphere - area below the equator.
By implication your scenario is a total Hispanic/Latino continent in S.A. If the French left Guiana and gave independence to the country -and the population wished independence -then fine. If you mean leaving and handing it over to Brazil - no.
I presume also that you would agree to handing over Belize to Guatemala as the residents have the misfortune to speak English. With this you would have an ethnically cleansed S.A.
No, I have no interest in changing anything in North America.
I was using this as an example of what you appeared to wish for S.A. - a Hispanic/Latino only continent.
By the way, I am still awaiting an example of the UK's bellicose attitude in S.A other than their robust attitude to Argentina's threats about the Falklands. Who else have we “threatened” in the area ?
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/latam-s-major-defence-fair-opens-in-brazil-with-700-companies-from-48-countries#comment239536: By hemispere I meant the western hemispere. Specifically I meant that Europe should (and will) evacuate America. But, of course, European countries need to withdraw from the Pacific as well.
Apr 18th, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Junta generals certainly considered themselves to be in a state of war during their administration. They have been tried for crimes against humanity and, so, they re in the same category as war crimes.
The UK has committed many war crimes around the world and yet they have not brought their leaders to account. It follows that they feel free to commit further war crimes at the time of their choosing. No country can afford to be in a position of being reliant on the UK's adherence to the law for the continuation of its sovereignty. And so it is with the countries of America.
23 Hepatia . Oh dear , you are not up to date . An independent commission found the British army guilty of killing thirteen people in Northern Ireland in 1969 . Her Majesty' s Govrnment has apologised . A High Court in London has ruled that three Kenyans have the right to sue the British Government for torture during the troubles in Kenya in the fifties .
Apr 18th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would also remind you that Queens Regulations , which is the code of behaviour of the armed forces , expressly prohibits acts against humanity . And the armed forces have ,over the years , condemned officers and other ranks who broke that code of behaviour .
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Apr 18th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which European countries should leave the Pacific and what Pacific countries do you mean ?
So, if we give former colonies self-determination,that will fit the bill or open the door for a forced take over by ARGENTINA .
What right do S.American countries, who gained their land by brutal conquest over the indigenous populations, have to demand sovereignty over a small group of islands in the S.Atlantic which were never part of the continent and have been British since the 18th century. You can never seem to grasp that all S. American countries were the result of their colonialism. Even after the Spanish/Portuguese were expelled , the new independent states continued with colonialism until they subjugated or destroyed the local native populations.
It's a bit rich to accuse the UK of colonialism considering your forebears crimes.
The usual vague accusations about war crimes again.
Take Iraq, the UK was the only country involved in this ?
Of course, again, we are singled out because it suits your argument.
So Canada, the USA, Mexico , Cuba and the whole of S A should watch their backs as we are liable to commit war crimes against them. What a fatuous proposal. It's not even worth discussing.
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