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Margaret Thatcher, one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, said Obama
President Barack Obama has said that with the passing of Baroness Margaret Thatcher the world has lost one of the great champions of freedom and liberty and the US a true friend. Read full article
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Apr 09th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0rubbish....
champion of freedom and liberty he says? how does that match with Thatcher denounced Nelson Mandela and his ANC as “terrorists”, something even David Cameron ultimately admitted was wrong.
What kind of 'great' leader who wishes to champion liberty and freedom would have called Mandela a terrorist? I'll tell you which type...
the same type that was also best of pals with Pinochet who deposed an legitimately and democratically elected president and which the old hag never opposed or said anything about. Get the picture? Well, there is more...
She was a steadfast friend to brutal tyrants such as Augusto Pinochet (as already mentioned before), Saddam Hussein and Indonesian dictator General Suharto (“One of our very best and most valuable friends”). All of them 'great' champions of freedom and liberty. *facepalm*
Had enough? well there is more....
She played a key role by using her influence to publicly advocate for the 2003 attack on Iraq, an illegitimate war by international law standards (unlike the first Gulf War).
Had enough? Still more....
What about her domestic political legacy of rampant inequality and greed, privatisation and social breakdown in GB?
Therefore, spare the rubbish of 'champion of freedom and liberty' mumbo jumbo. Moreover, people praising Thatcher's legacy should show some respect for her victims, which were many....
H.G. @1
Apr 09th, 2013 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Err, H.G., have you got an axe to grind ?
Rejoice Rejoice. That horrible woman is dead.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Open the gates of hell for the evil one cometh.
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Apr 09th, 2013 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0just stating the facts mate so that we don't get carried away with this champion of freedom and liberty mumbo0jumbo.
SHE WASNT
“SHE WASNT”
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0looks like rather a lot of people disagree with you.
Many of them i've heard of, you I haven't.
I'll take their version, seeing as they are important people and you area nobody.
no offence ;-)
HG : 30 years after Thatcher and with the present crisis , people on welfare in Britain are better off than the middle class in Argentina , so don't try to lecture the UK about social inequality . You remind me of the communists behind the Iron Curtain who said that all the wealth in the west was propaganda.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0for a minute there let's assume you are right UP (you are not)....
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0what about the old hag getting it on with Pinochet, Sukarno, Hussein and all those distasteful dictators. What have you to so say about that?
What about calling someone like Nelson Mandela a terrorist? nothing on that either?
“What about calling someone like Nelson Mandela a terrorist?”
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0He was a terrorist... by definition.
Sorry if you dislike that little technicality, but he was, by definition, a terrorist. (And i say that as somebody who has met him a few times, how about yourself? Ever had a chinwag with him?)
You aren't George Galloway by any chance are you?
so nothing on Pinochet and Sukarno, and Hussein....
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0predictable....
carry on....
Talking of terrorists , aren't half the Argentine cabinet ex Montoneros with innocent blood on their hands ?
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 010
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0keep trying tool of a pirate...
keep trying to move the goal posts and shift the topic of discussion....
“”Talking of terrorists , aren't half the Argentine cabinet ex Montoneros with innocent blood on their hands ?“””
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0the entire nation has blood on their hands - Patagonia, Falklands, tacit support of the Junta, 30,000 of their own implanted squatter peoples....
its very hard to tell what some of these chaps mean.
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Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0How about the Argentinean “accord” with the rogue state of Iran
Nelson Mandela WAS a terrorist, Martin McGuinness was a terrorist as was Gerry Adams as was Archbishop Makarios as was Jomo Kenyatta as was Menachim Begin as was....as was.... as was.....
Grow up you idiot
Haven't you ever heard the phrase “One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter”
@Helber Galarga Can't wait to see world reaction when the Botox Queen snuffs it, there won't be any.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13
Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well you tool, in case you missed it, the article we are commenting on mentions MT....one of the great champions of freedom....
NOT ARGENTINA....
if you'd like to discuss Argentina's accord with Iran, get the pseudo-journal of mercopress to post one and we can discuss it there...
What about MT, getting in bed with Pinochet, Sukarno, and Hussein? Would you like to shed any light on how that makes her a greater champion of freedom and liberty?
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Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0No Herby my little sweet you brought up the subject of who was a terrorist and who wasn't so I just added another terrorist to the list. i.e the Argentine State.
If you think Mercopress is a pseudo-journal why do you bother to read it and comment on these threads?
You really are a typical Argentine troll aren't you???
@Helber Galarga Are you a pratt or what???? look at world reaction,other countries are singing her praises my friend and rightly so, unfortunately the botox queen will go un noticed when she goes to join her dead husband ,sooner the better.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0#3
Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The gates of hell are currently blocked by Chavez's fat arse. Satan's minions are running around with wedges, mallets and bearing grease hurrying to prize him through.
@Helber
Apr 09th, 2013 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have no love for MT but I can respect her dedication of patriot for her people. Today we have the K who only today is launching another attack on the judiciary in our country, reducing more further our freedoms. MT increased the freedoms of her people, to do business, to own property, to partake in economic activity. If you like her or no, she made the many people in UK understand economics of reality. She fight for freedom of her people and this I respect it. I wish for we had a leader like her for us.
I think some of the negative comments are not considering the dire state of the UK when she was voted in as PM. You could almost compare us to Greece today. We were being bailed out by the IMF, the unions held the country to ransom, nationalised industries were inefficient and a burden on the tax-payer, rubbish on the streets and dead bodies lined up to be buried, three day weeks and constant power cuts. She made the country swallow the bitter pill that eventually cured the economy. People suffered the changes but had she not made the changes they would have suffered more. You could draw comparisons with the changes Chile went through.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ElaineB You are 100% correct look at the UK in 1979 and then in 1990 the change was unbelievable
Apr 09th, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Elaine
Apr 09th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You could draw comparisons with the changes Chile went through.”
Yes.
@9
“so nothing on Pinochet”
He was another champion of freedom and liberty for many.
When was the last time you lived in a Marxist state?
Land, homes and businesses expropriated, essentials in short supply, the economy destroyed, food and jobs distributed by party and syndicate mafias.
When the Botox Queen goes it will solve the whale oil shortage. Meanwhile next Wednesday could be a festival for sad Argies, they have little else to actually celebrate. Lol On the subject of sinking ships.... How's the fleet? :-))
Apr 09th, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I listened some interviews with English people on yesterday's evening drive program. Apparently they're popping the champagne over there. So if you want to party get the plane over to the UK. Bring more champagne though - they're going to drink the country dry.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 Of course there are some people that objected to her policies. That happens in a free country with a real democracy. It is the difference between a patriotic country and a nationalist one. Why do you find that such an issue? (I have to add that I have seen some of the reports - I am not in the UK at the moment - and a lot seem to be students looking for a party).
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MT was voted in three times with a majority. At the time her policies were popular with the majority. Like it or not, that was a fact. And she was never defeated by the voting public, her party decided they wanted a new direction.
“Freedom and Liberty”, Are you listening Argentina?? what could he possibly mean, answers on a postcard please....
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great leader? Champion of freedom? The Iron Lady and the FRaded Actor together nearly brought down civilixation as the world knows it. They began the ruin we are experiencing today. Freedom, indeed!
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Well, dear Elbow, it seems that you adopt the “populist” stance. As darragh points out, you introduced Mandela. It must be remembered that the UK owed Pinochet a debt of gratitude. In 1982, Chile's Westinghouse long range radar gave the task force early warning of argie air attacks. There was also the matters of military intelligence gathering, radar surveillance, allowing British aircraft to operate with Chilean colours and facilitating the safe return of British special forces. Wonder how many British lives he saved? The day the radar had to be taken out of service was also the day Britain lost 53 dead. About a fifth of the final total. But then argies wouldn't understand standing by friends, would they? And, from what I read, Allende wasn't so brilliant. Buying his way to power by ruining Chile. What's your problem with Suharto? After a quick read on his history, it seems he was anti-communist. A much-needed “friend” in resistance to Chinese communist imperialism. As for Saddam Hussein, wasn't she amongst those who urged action against him after his attempted genocide amongst the Kurds and his invasion of Kuwait? Could there be a sneaking admiration on your part for Hussein? After all, argieland was also into genocide. And didn't argieland also invade and occupy a small defenceless country? And on much the same pretext.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 What? What are you rabbiting about? Do you live in argieland? Have you thought about living somewhere that is actually “civilised”? What can we say about argieland? Belligerent, corrupt, criminal, deviant, economic shambles, genocidal, juvenile, larcenous, mendacious, congenitally stupid and vicious. Not to mention lazy and incompetent. That's your idea of civilisation?
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment236936: As you point out Thatcher was removed from office due to a undemocratic peculiarity of the UK system. And she was appointed to office by the same undemocratic peculiarity of the UK system. The office of prime minister is not an elective office in the UK. So Thatcher was elected exactly zero times to the office.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But why are you wasting time reading this article - an article that even for this UK propaganda site is nothing more than a puff piece. Try reading: http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment236936:
“Margaret Thatcher, one of the great champions of freedom and liberty, said Obama”
Apr 09th, 2013 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Laughable to read and hear those words coming out of patty o'bozo's loud mouth that signed the worst bill, the NDAA, that goes totally against liberty.
That so called “iron lady”..just another loud mouth with bad teeth (because that's all what she had, nothing else) reformed the so called british economy into an economy they have today where banksters in the city of london can plunder the people unlimited and with help of their buddies in that so called “house of lords”.
She a champion of freedom? Keep drinking the kool-aid. Camoron is def. going to take advantage of this while the economy continue to shrink.
Having recently been in Argentina again, it is not difficult to understand why they are so opposed to MT and it has little to do with the Falklands War.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina had a similar leader in the 70's, someone prepared to institute policies requiring people to work for their living and end the free ride so many enjoy; policies that would break down the class divides and anyone with the drive and ability could achieve their economic independence; policies that do not rely on corruption alone to operate a business or to get through life. It is frightening for a country where success is measured by just getting through another crisis.
Argentina and the Argentineans could be living a far more prosperous lifestyle if they had been prepared to swallow the bitter pill and work hard through the changes, as Chile did. It is far easier to complain about the problems but do nothing to change it.
On my recent visit to Argentina everyone was complaining about the government, inflation, crime and a general fear prevailed that everything they had worked to establish was going to be lost again.
MT will always be a controversial figure because she had the strength to take on the huge problems in the UK and make dramatic changes. Some people will never accept the changes (I do not agree with everything she did) and will hold her responsible for their misfortunes until their dying day.
One thing I could never understand. Coal mining is a dirty, dangerous profession almost certain to shorten one's life. Why did the miners want so badly for their children to follow in their path? I understand the breakdown of close knit communities but surely it is fundamental for parents to want a better life for their children? Just a thought.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment236971: Tell me, are you even vaguely aware of Argentinian history? As it happens I made many trips to Argentina in the 1970s an it was not the worker's paradise that you seem to imagine that it was.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you say that “everyone was complaining about the government” I assume that you mean everyone in your limited circle of friends and acquaintances with whom you converse. You seem to forget that the present administration and congress have recently been elected by a majority.
The issue in the UK is not coal but industry. The Thatcher administration was responsible for gutting the country leaving only banking - with the results we have seen in the current Great Recession.
The thing about Chile is that while some are doing well many are not.
@32 My question was about the coal industry because the coal miners union was fundamental in the battles with MT's government.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have often heard that MT destroyed industry in the UK. To an extent that is true but not the whole picture. She was instrumental in dismantling failing industries but was key in bringing new industry to the country. Without extensive research I can offer the example of closing failing british car plants - they made some terrible cars - but bringing in foreign car manufacturers. Manufacturing does still exist in the UK but it is not the main industry, just as agriculture was once our main industry. Countries evolve and the UK was a broken country in 1976.
Banking is not the only industry in the UK . I am not entirely sure where you are getting you information.
Chile as a country is economical sound and growing. Sure, as in all countries, some are doing better than others. In Argentina the majority are scraping by with no economic dependence or hope. However you want to try to spin in, Argentina is a mess. Nice people, terrible government.
Argie bloggers condemning the iron lady,
Apr 09th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet these same bloggers complain when brits do it to them,
You Argies really did not know her,
And the only real reason you have to hate her,
Is because she defeated you, full stop,
As for barmy barma,
Mr president,,
The fact is, if she was still in power, you would not be sitting on the fence,
Full stop.
Next..
“”“As you point out Thatcher was removed from office due to a undemocratic peculiarity of the UK system. And she was appointed to office by the same undemocratic peculiarity of the UK system. The office of prime minister is not an elective office in the UK. So Thatcher was elected exactly zero times to the office.”“””
Apr 09th, 2013 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahahahahahahaha
nice way to prove you don't understand the westminster system.
what a pillock.
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Apr 09th, 2013 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatia- all British party leaders are elected by their party members or the Members of Parliament - how does it work in Argentina?
Apr 09th, 2013 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then - it is indeed up the people of the nation at a General Election if they want to vote for that party and thus have said person as Prime Minister - so YES MT was democratically elected as Prime Minister 3 times in a row and there is nothing you can say or do to dispute it.
Was she always popular in all parts of UK - No! But she nevertheless won a majority 2nd and 3rd time - so the loosers have to accept the facts of democracy.
Mostof the hooligans and students out for a party on some streets in Uk would not have a clue about the arguments of both sides of the disputes in the 1980s anyway - many were not even born then! Theya re out for a cheap thrill - it is pretty cheap and insulting to a dead person who cannot answer back let alone her family - but UK is a democracy so they can.
What would have happened in Argentina when Nestor died if folks had done that in the street?
@32 How nice to see you declare that argieland was a shithole. Ready to take the next step and declare that it still is?
Apr 09th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Hepatia
Apr 09th, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The thing about Chile is that while some are doing well many are not.”
That is true of any country, some do better than others. The thing about Chile is that everyone from the poorest to the richest is doing better than 10 years ago and 10 years ago we were better than 20 years ago. We have steady growth, inflation at 2%, very low unemployment and continually rising wages in all sectors. The minimum wage is the highest in Latin America. Add to that the strength of the Chilean Peso which gives everyone more purchasing power. The central bank will be intervening very soon to weaken the Chilean Peso...a world apart from the other side of the Cordillera.
You also say:
“The Thatcher administration was responsible for gutting the country leaving only banking”
I think financial services only makes up 10% of UK GDP so where is the other 90%?
MT might have hastened the death of noncompetitive heavy industry but she paved the way for new industries. The UK has a diversity of industry that not even Brazil in South America is close to.
@39 Aerospace and pharmaceuticals are huge contributors to the economy.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you consider the very radical policies of MT she actively took people away from depending on the state to taking responsibility as an individual. (The obvious negative is people thinking 'me' instead of 'we' thus removing some sense of obligation to give to society). The majority of people had the opportunity of becoming capital rich through the 'right to buy' their council homes at huge discounts, and preferential and discounted shares when state-owned companies were privatised. This was major redistribution of wealth to people who never would have had a chance to own property or shares. Her initial opening up of the financial services meant that instead of it being run by the elite, anyone with the intelligence and ability to work hard could make money. Yeah, that had a downside too but it really did spell the end of a rigid class system.
Miguel song Piero Cantilo and truly portraying the criminal and genocidal Margaret Thatcher
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LADY VIOLENCE AND CHILDREN
Lady violence firecrackers clouds
Words flamethrower and criminal reason
Architect built a fire of fear
Machete arrogant and pit scar.
Lady of the blows and curses
With hands gillette gun and sex
Lady violence where will the children of thy womb
Muscles resistant leather
Punishing enemies screaming and kicking
Someone who loves me, killing living.
Lady violence rages
Revolution and war, national pretext
For many people release their anxieties,
Your sleeping body and animal instinct.
Energetic lady wild fields
Patron of the jungles and brutal work
Lady of the men who grow up in the footprint
Deformed lady, crazy in the city.
Where are the children of your womb
With effervescent lead flakes
Mistreating animals and felled pine
Destroying forests, breaking the valleys,
Withering grass ranging treading.
Raul, please see a doctor tomorrow, you need urgent mental help.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it true the Falkland Islanders are considering changing the name of Port Stanley to Port Margaret? LOL!
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42... The only psych ed I've ever gotten was watching an episode of Dawson's Creek (and I want that hour back) and I can save him a bill.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Projection, Raul. Google it.
19 Gauchito Gil.
Apr 09th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do not be Gil. I invite you to wear the Argentina shirt. Margaret Thatcher was also a criminal in his own country. She always supported the wealthy against the poor.
In Argentina today never lived as a true freedom of exprecion. Cristina Kirchner is fighting the corporation under court and defended the genocidal as Aztiz, Videla and Galtieri.
Remember that this judgmental corporation with its corruption, defending the corporate media and led us to economic disaster in 2001. Corporate corruption is vastly greater than political corruption.
Cristina Kirchner life commitment, dialogue and peace. Margaret Thatcher always wagered by violence and death.
42 CaptainSilver
Raul, please consult a doctor tomorrow, need help urgent mental
I would say you are sick. You support colonialism, imperialism, violence and death.
I support peace, dialogue and non-violence.
44 GFace
If you see me ceee. In the UK are celebrating his death.
Injured and arrested in street celebrations over the death of former British premier
http://www.clarin.com/mundo/Heridos-detenidos-celebraciones-callejeras-britanica_0_898110331.html
Did I really hear some twat compare Maggie with CFK?
Apr 10th, 2013 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, Maggie restored some pride to the UK by confronting left wing socialist extremists who were bringing the country down to it's knees much like what the Bolivarians are doing in S.A.
She re-energized the economy by privatizing lame duck nationalized industries making them more efficient & profitable
She stood up to the miners, power workers, engineering unions to name a few who were blackmailing the country with their excessive wage demands
She helped hundreds of thousands out of poverty & enabled them to buy their own homes for the first time in their lives
She ended the culture of state dependancy making people stand on their own two feet & taking responsibility for themselves
She was instrumental in bringing down the iron curtain by opening up communication lines with Gorbachev
She was instrumental in ending apartheid by opening up communication lines with De Klerk & Botha
And last but not least she had the ' pelotas' to stand up to the military junta who invaded a peaceful island nation & not only did she win the war but it also helped to bring down a brutal dictatorship for which the RGs should be forever thankful
Now then, what did CFK do?.......................hmmmmm..............................
Oh yeah, she increased inflation to around 30% per year, she introduced import controls creating shortages in manufacturing, she introduced dollar controls creating a massive parallel market, she created state capitalism by taking over the central bank, pension funds & YPF, she's picked fights with the U.S., U.K, E.U., U.N., I.M.F., F.I., Scioli, Macri, Moyano & even the pope, she hid behind the Campora in times of national crisis like the Once train crash & the La Plata floods
And last but not least, she whined about the Falklands incessantly until everyone got tired of her including B.K.Moon & the Pope.........absolutely NO COMPARISON!!!
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237057: Oh? So, are you asserting that the office of prime minister is an elected office in the UK?
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Election is a necessary, but insufficient, requirement of democracy. So, no election means no democracy. And the office of premier is probably the most important in the UK.
“Banking is not the only industry in the UK . I am not entirely sure where you are getting you information.”
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, it's not the only industry you have in the UK, but but but it counts for around over 50% of it's GDP. Do you understand now why they are TO BIG TO FAIL? No they aren't, but that's what you are being told by your dear leaders. MT was doing great because of the North Sea Production which is today in decline..uhmm decline just like how the economy in Britain is SHRINKING / Contracting even with all the QE's that you will pay back through Austerity (Privatize profits by selling of everything and socialize the losses when it goes wrong, in this case banking casino
@47
Apr 10th, 2013 - 06:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Okay, have your way, Britian is not a democracy, no one votes here! Happy now?
@48
And the UK is still streets ahead of you. Now if you will excuse me, I have to fill out an application for foreign currency I want to take with me on holiday and list the property I will be taking with me, the credit cards I will be using etc,etc, etc!
HG : In response to your question about old hags and dictators .....
Apr 10th, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please remind the audience about how a certain old hag and her twerto husband made their money in Santa Cruz between 1977-1982 ?
Buying up the houses and goods of the desaparecidos at knock down prices in partnership with the local military district commander . Alicia Kirchner was a senior civil servant in the provincial government in Santa Cruz under a military governor during the dictatorship , but this doesn't seem to prevent holding a cabinet job in the national government today .
Nestor's grandfather was one of the suppressors of the Patagonia Rebelde revolt ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia_rebelde ) in which 1500 spanish and chilean peones were killed .
So please do not presume to lecture us on the evils of Thatcher and the friends she kept , when your botox filled goddess kept equally dubious , if not worse , company herself .
Please don't forget either , that before fleeing south , her former boyfriend , the current ambassador in Spain, killed a naval officer in the street in cold blood in front of his children .
Don'they teach all this stuff in Escuela Campora ?
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237137: It is a matter of fact that I have not said anything like that.
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is not whether anyone votes in the UK. The question is whether they can vote for candidates for government office. The answer is no. The UK is very much a third rate democracy.
@51 Hepatia
Apr 10th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something is obviously being lost in your translation!
3rd rate democracy, that's rich from someone who three decades ago had no vote all and is shit scared of their own military, because if they ever get anything as powerful as they were then, will not have the vote again. Juntas are not history there, let their guard down for a second and another one will be along before you can say naval school of engineering!
Apr 10th, 2013 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would laugh my ass off, but not that cruel, not her fault, accident of birth.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237515: I you are talking about me then I did have the vote 3 decades ago. However, I am worried about the militarization of my country and have been for many decades now.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you are talking about Argentinian citizens then, of course, they have thrown off their oppressive system and instituted a democracy. The question is when is the UK when is the UK going to do the same?
This is not to say that the Argentinian system is perfect. For instance Argentina needs to adopt the Australian Ballot.
@54
Apr 11th, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatia
Will you please explain why the UK is not a democracy.
Hepatia . You are absolutely right !!! The UK really must rebuild it's democratic model to mirror that of Argentina , and while we are about it, pay school kids to blog propaganda all day while their brothers and fathers beat up aid workers from opposition parties , if and when we get flooded out out because our politicians have “ diverted ” the money for repairing the drains .
Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also like the idea of letting violent murderers out of prison to campaign on the government's behalf !
I do lose sleep over whether Moyano wields enough power though... Of course its democratic that the unions actually run Argentina , otherwise someone with principles and common sense might get elected , and we couldn't have that could we ? .
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237705: I have not said that the UK system should “mirror that of Argentina”. It would be sufficient for the UK to implement any democratic system.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If your post is anything to go by then the chances of the UK being more than a third rate democracy are very slight.
Ya see,
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some Argies are so so afraid of Maggie, they now write poems to her,
Like simple peasants did thousands of years ago,
Frightened that her spirit might come back and harm them,
If they don’t appease her .
Keep up the poems,
She aint far away.
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@57 Hepatia
Apr 11th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you can, will you please explain why the UK is not a democracy.
he knows not-
Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he sees not=
he hears not..
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237852: I have not said that the UK is not a democracy. I have said that it is a third rate democracy.
Apr 12th, 2013 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“If you are talking about Argentinian citizens then, of course, they have thrown off their oppressive system and instituted a democracy. The question is when is the UK when is the UK going to do the same?”
Apr 12th, 2013 - 05:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/04/09/margaret-thatcher-one-of-the-great-champions-of-freedom-and-liberty-said-obama#comment237980: And.....?
Apr 12th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if he thinks the uk is a third rate country,
Apr 12th, 2013 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0goodness what that makes argentina, 20th rate perhaps.
@21 In 1990 interest rates were at 15.5% and stayed that way for over a year.
Apr 12th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The country was in a deep recession and millions of people were in negative equity and 10s of thousands of those had their houses repossesed.Manly familys with young children.
Please speak to people who lived through it before you write a pack of lies on line and try to pass it off as fact
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