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Election year fever in Argentina: fuel price freeze and lower interests on bank arrears
Election fever in Argentina: the administration of President Cristina Fernandez froze the price of gasoline and diesel sold at service stations for six months and convinced banks to cut interest payments on arrears. Last month supermarket chains and other suppliers agreed to extend the current price freeze. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI realise that poor people tend to focus on the immediate and do not have the leisure of long-term planning but are they really bought so easily?
Apr 10th, 2013 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When will these people learn???
Apr 10th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The dike is groaning under the pressure and structurally about to give way and Cristina goes and sticks her finger in it and tells everyone to go home and relax.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has averted the deluge..... or has she?
@1 well, the people (not just the poor, the middle class as well) were bought this easily in 2007 and 2011. But during those elections the economy was doing better. Now the Ks will have to unleash the secret weapon... Marcelo Tinelli. With topless women and imitators in comedy sketchs making the president look good they have a chance to win these elections.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0In 2009, a sketchy Colombian named Francisco De Narvaez won against the K simply by paying a truckload of cash to Tinelli to make him good. Tinelli hired one of his imitators, who portrayed De Narvaez in a good light, and this is how De Narvaez got so many votes. Note that even a moron knows that the people at Tinelli's shows are imitators, but they project the personality of the imitator to the real deal. This is proof that, with the right spells, anyone can make the masses vote anyone. Just hire some PR guys, psychologists, ad agencies and influencial TV hosts and you can get voted in.
This is how Cristina earns support. Just with simple psycology people's beliefs can be manipulated. If in the first-world there is a whole industry whose sole purpose is manipulating people by mastering the science of mind control, imagine what those tecniques can do in a third-world society...
Argentina is the laughing stock of the world.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a bunch of fools
They have done this same scheme over and over again about every 20 years.
The Ks couldn't even make a decade without an implosion
What a mess
I predict we will see the Nuevo Austral or Peso Oro really soon.
Seems it doesn't take much to win people in argentina over.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I don't think it's a good time yet for the right to win an
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0election. The economic house of cards will soon collapse and whomever is in the Casa Rosada will be blamed.
That makes me laugh apocalyptic read reviews of the islanders. Always wanting deep within your being, that disappears Argentina, as those resentful wishing evil to his neighbor. Tell me: Does UK have no internal problems? But only see the bad that happens in my country and not know how good it also lies. Instead of looking out her navel look better, 90% of the commenters on this page do not live on the islands, each day has less population, because age and youth migrate for good. I find that a much more serious problem than the problem of inflation. In 100 years the English army marines guard it only a few penguins on the rocks. If Argentina say bad, I say: you are worse!
Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8
Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come back when you can type proper english and people can understand what you're saying.
Have a read and see what you think
Apr 11th, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.atfa.org/if-the-cpi-is-not-corrected-up-to-us3-billion-will-be-lost/
@1 It's the same in every country. Certain types of people just wash each day away with whatever quantity of alcohol they can purchase with their daily take home pay. They watch television and mindlessly accept any information that comes their way.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0My take on it is, that if you fall for propaganda or mass media manipulation, you're an idiot. Politicians use cheap tricks because there are enough stupid people to fall for them.
the args will be happy with the freezed gasonline prices and give ck their votes. after the election ck will increase the price to double as she has 4 more years to let it forget by the people. this was the fact after the last election with other costs and taxes and dollar freeze. they will never learn.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the cycle continues.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can freeze the price of fuel but you can't freeze the cost of production and/or import.
Eventually imports will stop and domestic production will grind to a halt as their debts mount.
At that point you have to send in the army and confiscate whatever supplies you can get your hands on but it doesn't solve the overall problem that your stupid socialist economic policies have ruined EVERYTHING.
Good luck to the Cristinista candidates, hope (and expect) the people's iron lady will stay in control right up to 2015, if not longer, and her legacy will be more entrenched than Maggie's in the long term =)
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0* - Firstly we genuine Islanders wish no harm to the ordinary Arg people.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Secondly where is your evidence of a declining populatione tc in the Islands?
If it is - WHY are our Schools bulging at the seams and the Junior School in particular needing new extra classrooms?
WHY is it that our youngsters go overseas to study at university- of course what little town of 3000 people in any country has its own Univ and Tec. Colleges etc etc- then RETURN to the Islands?
Did I really hear some twat compare Maggie with CFK?
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, Maggie restored some pride to the UK by confronting left wing socialist extremists who were bringing the country down to it's knees much like what the Bolivarians are doing in S.A.
She re-energized the economy by privatizing lame duck nationalized industries making them more efficient & profitable
She stood up to the miners, power workers, engineering unions to name a few who were blackmailing the country with their excessive wage demands
She helped hundreds of thousands out of poverty & enabled them to buy their own homes for the first time in their lives
She ended the culture of state dependancy making people stand on their own two feet & taking responsibility for themselves
She was instrumental in bringing down the iron curtain by opening up communication lines with Gorbachev
She was instrumental in ending apartheid by opening up communication lines with De Klerk & Botha
And last but not least she had the ' pelotas' to stand up to the military junta who invaded a peaceful island nation & not only did she win the war but it also helped to bring down a brutal dictatorship for which the RGs should be forever thankful
Now then, what did CFK do?.......................hmmmmm..............................
Oh yeah, she increased inflation to around 30% per year, she introduced import controls creating shortages in manufacturing, she introduced dollar controls creating a massive parallel market, she created state capitalism by taking over the central bank, pension funds & YPF, she's picked fights with the U.S., U.K, E.U., U.N., I.M.F., F.I., Scioli, Macri, Moyano & even the pope, she hid behind the Campora in times of national crisis like the Once train crash & the La Plata floods
And last but not least, she whined about the Falklands incessantly until everyone got tired of her including B.K.Moon & the Pope.........absolutely NO COMPARISON!!!
Hmm fuel price freeze yet gas went up 9% last night? Curious.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It will be fun to watch the different parts of the gov't fight each other.
YPF already has very poor cash flow, I don't see the other companies importing gas and selling at a loss.
This winter will be so fun to watch.
Anyone want to take bets inflation will be closer to 40 than 30 this year?
@ 14 British
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Iron Lady? PMSL Sorry dude but no matter how you try to twist it, CFK will never ever be the Iron Lady; as no one is scared of her and she hasn't really stood up to anyone.
Other than being female, that is where the similarities end.
There has only been one Iron Lady and there won't be another anytime soon.
PS: I too hope that CFK stays in power and perhaps longer...... if so, then Argentina will get everything it deserves and the Falkland Islands will be much closer to their eventually independence and Chile and Uruguay's living standard will pull so far ahead of Argentina that CFK's legacy will forever haunt Argentina like a bad case of genital warts.
“”“But only see the bad that happens in my country and not know how good it also lies. ”“”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, one BIG problem is that your media is, effectively, state-controlled, so it isnt exactly trustworthy (not saying that anybody elses is either, but that's another matter).
The other MAJOR problem is that “Argentines” on this forum seem more willing to fall back on the argument of “SoandSO is worse of.as bad as us” rather than actual SAYING what the good things in their country are.
If various Argentines (rather, those who actually LIVE THERE) spent their time on telling people the good things they would be doing their country a far bigger service than bitching at everybody else does.
Stop whining so much, stop blaming everybody else, and start TELLING PEOPLE what the good stuff supposedly is.
@ 16 manchesterlad
Apr 11th, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very well said sir !!! A+++
@16 They compared the two of them here....
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/128215/iron-ladies
I don't know if it is a typo or not at the end where they call the mad bitch the 'iran lady'
@14 You were more tolerable when you would just pleasure yourself to pictures of CFK, and not make stupid comments from a safe location.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you move down here and experience it for yourself, unless you're too much of a coward. You can volunteer to actually help the poor instead of watching an old hag steal money to bribe violent idiots to be her army of hooligans.
“That makes me laugh apocalyptic read reviews of the islanders.”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stretched puppies balloon agogo in the fizz port.
@16
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doesn't look like a typo to me “Iron Lady” was in quotes- iran lady wasn't
@23
WTF??????????????????????????????????
“”Should the archipelago be returned to Argentina? Or could this be another Hong Kong moment for the United Kingdom?“”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You cannot return something which never belonged, when will education reach Argentina is a question I would like to ask.
@24
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry I was just making as much sense as 8 Xavi
@14 BK
She's more like an iron maiden to the people.
Ah! our lovely Queen every day she looks even nice.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Britons are so jealous because the have a nasty old smelly nanny lady.
Sorry seem you where not so lucky as the argies.
Ha ha ha
“habemus Papam” and you suckers?
Ha ha ha
Can't remember where I read it yesterday but Argentina has $13bn outstanding of loans to Venez...if things start to go south they will want their cash back
Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“Stretched puppies balloon agogo in the fizz port.”“”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My God! It's CFKs speech writer! ¬_¬
8 XAVIERV
Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It understands their comments. Very good reasoning. UK is in serious economic and soon will the crisis deepens as Cyprus and Greece for its neoliberal policies. It is only a matter of time.
14 British_Kirchnerist
Cristna not an iron lady. Have enough sensitivity to understand the needs of the people of Argentina. Their convictions and their compliance with the Argentine people reelect him again.
Cristina known to fulfill the principles of social justice, economic independence and political sovereignty. Evita Peron is the time of OU.
16 manchesterlad
You're looking for an English enslave Argentina. Cristina Kirchner sent to jail and the military genocidal human rights struggle. A decade gained to Argentino people compared to the lost decade of the 90s.
You can not compare. Cristina apusta for life, peace, non-violence and understanding.
Margaret Thatcher opted for violence, death and colonialism and imperialism.
In the UK itself is celebrating his own death.
In several British cities celebrated with street parties
http://www.clarin.com/mundo/ciudades-britanicas-celebraron-fiestas-callejeras_0_898710174.html
Raul: Remind us who invaded the Falklands....
Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0was it:
a) Thatcher
or
b) Argentina
Also who subdued and colonised Patagonia
was it:
a) Argentina
or
b) Argentina
(I made the last one easy for you to understand)
Xarv.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She opted for nothing, you invaded, you fired the first shot. She responded, fired the last and defeated you.
Now try and behave with some degree of dignity and stop behaving like a bunch of cry babies. Frankly, it is embarrassing to watch!
“”“Now try and behave with some degree of dignity and stop behaving like a bunch of cry babies. ”“”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there is, according to certain Argentines, a UN resolution that expressly forbids the targets of Argentine Colonialism from being allowed to defend themselves.
(And if there isn't they will be sure to make one up!)
Well they are behaving like a bunch of cry babies. Honestly, I never read anything so distorted from the truth and reality. Margaret Thatcher responsible, Margaret Thatcher militaristic, Margaret Thatcher, Margaret Thather, Margaret Thatcher! They will be telling their kids she is hiding under the bed next.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a damn shame that more people do not read this site and see for themselves, how pathetic and childish these people are.
The entire educated world knows who was responsible for the violence caused over the islands and it sure as hell was not Thatcher.
Like I said, it's embarrassing to read it!
34. Brainwashing works, look how long N Koreans have been living without being in the modern world.
Apr 11th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs are not a smart people, they are extremely arrogant and narcissistic they can't even fathom being wrong about anything.
That is why they get so angry when anyone points out facts.
That is also why they are always getting laughed at and embarrassed outside of their own country.
It find it fascinating.
“”“It find it fascinating.”“”
Apr 11th, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0like watching a train wreck in slow motion....
@21 and 24
Apr 12th, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Perhaps history will record that the day Britain’s “Iron Lady” passed away was also the time Argentina’s Iran lady made a crucial decision between pursuing a populist power agenda and tackling the real problems of real people.”
Looks deliberate to me. Iran lady ... what a hoot :-)
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT
Apr 12th, 2013 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Following the death of world class politician St. Margaret of Finchley I have decided to rename Argentina. From today its new name in english is Thatchertina. Please use the correct new name from now on in your postings.
36. Yes the part about the decade worth of financial missteps is fun to watch too but what I think is really fascinating are the Rg Pols when they leave the country and talk in public.
Apr 12th, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone, and I mean everyone rolls their eyes and if they don't accidentally burst out laughing they are definitely smirking.
They try to pass off this delusion that Argentina is somehow always right and good and they keep saying it over and over again is just weirdly funny and sad at the same time.
The whole world is laughing at them or are dumbfounded with their ignorance.
It is truly bizarre
In any other country ( Except ALBA , Burma, N Korea, Zimbabwe) these pols would be out of a job for being so nutty.
Fascinating.
@39 yes, it´s fascinating isn´t it? I wonder, what makes some countries end up with these nutty politicians?
Apr 12th, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30
Apr 12th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is not peaceful, non violent & understanding because she uses inflamatory rhetoric which has caused many a war in the past. She tries to trample her opposition & the word compromise is not in her vocabulary
Maggie did not opt for violence, death, colonialism & imperialism…. It was forced upon her by a brutal dictatorship who had murdered 30,000 of their own people, what do you think they planned for the Falklanders???
The idiots celebrating Maggies death weren´t even born in the 80´s…. they are socialist, leftist extremists just like yourself who have lived on handouts all their lives & have never constructed, built, created or contributed anything to society …….ESTA CLARO!!!
Re the Clarin “Iran lady” column, doesn't look like a typo to me - just the usual distorted rubbish. And of course extreme nationalism, attacking Cristina for making a just peace with an old foe - I often wonder what the anti-K Argie right really think of their British cheerleaders on this forum...
Apr 12th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#27 Welcome back Danny, I was wondering where you'd gone =)
#30 Don't worry Raul, I'm not trying to demean Cristinita by comparing her to Maggie, just winding up the Thatcherites - and it seems it worked =) And by calling her the people's iron lady (a British in joke on “people's princess” Diana) pointing out the key way she is different and better and indeed tougher than the class warrior for the rich who died on Monday
#41 “Maggie did not opt for violence, death, colonialism & imperialism…. It was forced upon her”
Poor thing!
@British_Kirchnerist
Apr 13th, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you BK I was in Europe now i’m back like Exterminator. Ha ha
Nice to read your post again : )
SYL
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