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UN Rapporteur insists in criticizing Argentine ‘politicization’ of the Judiciary

Friday, May 3rd 2013 - 07:01 UTC
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United Nations expert on magistrates and solicitors independence again expressed concern on Thursday about the laws contained in the Argentine government-promoted judicial reform which might lead to the “politicization” of the judiciary branch. Read full article


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  • willi1

    “...which made the government of President Cristina Fernandez livid of fury, ...”

    Yes, always when ck and her gang look into a mirror like an independent newspaper or reports like the UN one they become LIVID. when people tell them the truth and explain them what “idiotic” in the rest of the world means, they become FURIOUS. a court would say: “They are not of sound mind.”
    poor argentines who are forced to live under this regime!

    May 03rd, 2013 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    The U.N. is a two edged sword !
    C.F.K. is a hydra!
    Much slashing to come

    May 03rd, 2013 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Surely Ms Knaul doesn't expect Argentina to adhere to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights which it signed on o9 Feb 1968 and ratified on 8 Aug 1986? Hasn't she ever heard of Peronism?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Since when do they honour anything they sign?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    It wasn't their fault they signed it, it was somebody else's. Of course.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    This is the path that Hitler trod. Absolute power corrupts absolutely...

    Watch out, KFCs about... Look busy!

    May 03rd, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 Didn't you realise that CFK, in particular, and argieland in general are above the law? Any law, anywhere. The same applies to covenants, conventions, treaties and any other agreements. The basic principle is that argieland has the “right” to do anything it wants. It can be corrupt, criminal, devious, degenerate, deceitful, genocidal, larcenous, mendacious, pernicious, villainous. But it's argieland and it's allowed. Out of curiosity, as argieland ignored the BINDING UN Security Council resolution 502 in 1982, why wasn't it expelled from the UN?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    I see you're not familiar with the practice of sarcasm.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth


    Probably for the same reason the UK and US have not been expelled after violated on SCR 502,593,296.797.330,708,697, but ARTICLE 1 (War is not used preemptively and by using lies)

    May 03rd, 2013 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    When and by whom were the UK and the US found to have violated those articles?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Tellіng_Trοll

    That is a cheap imitation name.
    Could you not do better than that?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jean-Troll Van Damme

    How's that?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth


    How can you be found guilty when the the judge himself is on trial for a crime, and he remains the judge and he gets to decide guilt or innocence? E.g. UN SEC CO.

    Your intelligence and common sense are underwhelming.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    Gosh. How interesting. When exactly did the Un Sec Co become a Court of Law? When exactly was a case against the UK brought before the UN Sec Co? When exactly did the UK veto or otherwise stop any resolution favouring Argentina? Or condemning itself? In what other way has the UK (mis)-used its position on the UN Sec Co against Argentina? Who objected? Have you a link to the transcript?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    What are you babbling about? You asked why the US and UK had not been found to violate those articles? They have, by any half-witted person and government looking at how Iraq II was concocted, propagandized, and drumbeated.

    Since it would take a UN SEC CO to find any member “formally” in violation of a SEC CO resolution or UN Article, of course the UK and UK will never be found guilty.

    It's funny how you see to not understand this basic idea, since you seem to complain so much about CFK gaining power over the judiciary, or how Argentina is never censured or sanctioned by MERCOSUR or Unasur, even though we both agree ARG has violated many trade agreements and other treaties with both.

    Maybe, just maybe, because Argentina has veto power in both, and because many countries in LatAm don't want or care to have a piss off with ARG.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    Nice to see it's a Brazilean laying the law down must make the Botox Queen even madder when its someone from the same continenant more or less calling her corrupt,keep it up Gabriela Knaul your doing a fine job.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    Ahem. The point isn't whether the UK or the US has been found guilty by any half-witted person, there are plenty half-wits around who think we're guilty of everything under the sun. The point is whether the UK or the US could be found guilty of anything by the organs of the UN.

    In this respect, you do need to read up a little on the UN, how it works, and what it's for. The Security Council works by majority voting, and 9 out of 15 votes are necessary to pass any resolution. Notoriously, the UK and US failed to get this in the case of the Iraq war.

    Or in other words, no Security Council members is all powerful, and your own example disproves your contention.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb lol

    May 03rd, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @16 The Brazilian President has reached the end of her patience with CFK and to say things are tense between the countries would be an understatement. I think when Dilma left a day early from her visit with CFK, because it was a complete waste of time and CFK had not adhered to any of the promises she made to Dilma at their last meeting, it was gloves off time. I doubt we will see much support from Brazil towards Argentina.

    How lonely CFK must be feeling.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jean-Troll Van Damme

    You shut down trolley with a concise argument, facts and clean logic.
    Trolley K.O.ed

    May 03rd, 2013 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Oh contrar my dear.......she has great company......Mr Bus from Venezuela, Chief Morales, Correa....though funny he has been strangely quiet......maybe Assange is getting to him. And there is always Pepe to play her personal bidet, but we all know what he really thinks of her. Such a circle of love there.
    Seriously I agree that Kirchner screwed the pooch with Brazil. It seems that she bites every hand that is extended to her. Argentina is beyond corrupt as they are barely a rung above Somalia. Even if the people all voted against the polls would be in her favor. I really do not see any alternative to civil unrerst and a physical overthrow.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @21 LOL! But looking at her 'friends', Morales has no power and a heap of his own problems and the Bus Driver is shitting himself as his term as President is likely to be record-breakingly short. Correa sees himself as Bolivarian leader of South America and is no friend of CFK.

    I think the South American countries are standing back from the implosion of Argentina and hoping not to catch too much shrapnel. When the K's are gone the rebuilding of relationships will begin. I am not sure Mercosur will survive.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    well 9.98/1
    but who's counting

    Anybody want to hazard a guess what it will be at eoy?

    The sky's the limit so they say

    May 03rd, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    It is certainly picking up pace. I cannot see it stopping without a major change in government policy. Apparently the business sector have been begging the government to do something but apparently that is simply a coup plot.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yeah simple minds always think there is some sort of conspiracy against them.

    It is very hard to stop a currency run
    I don't think they don't have the smarts or the U$ to do it.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    SO: to summarise:

    The UK & USA are clearly guilty because they have never been found guilty...and they have never been found guilty because they could just veto it anyway..therefore nobody charges them with being guilty.

    Which, clearly, proves they are guilty.

    (Even though it isnt a court either)

    “Clearly, Captain Kirk, we are dealing with an unusual species here...”

    May 03rd, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @9 I'm not interested in the US. It can take care of itself. Tell us how the UK violated SCR 502. Ever read Article 51 of the UN Charter, dumbo? Oh, and didn't the UN Secretary General recently state that no Security Council member was in violation of ANY binding UN resolutions?
    @13 Answer the question.
    @15 I get it. “They have, by any half-witted person” That would be you,then. But you don't count. That's because you're a war criminal. You are an argie, aren't you?

    May 03rd, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    22-25 yb you've mentioned Romania a few times and would completely agree that this is as interesting a study as that was in megalomania and power having corrupted a regime. As well as the regime being corrupt in the good old fashioned sense of course. A text book scenario of yes men and denial fuelling technically incompetent but 'good at getting their own way' individuals.

    What is disappointing is that in an information rich age wherein ignorance can no longer be justified, exactly the same story of power abuse is being played out without any sophisticated disguise excusing the masses. Some lessons are never learnt.

    As for the peso.... Well who in their right mind is going to provide any liquidity to slow the thing down... CFK's margin account looking somewhat callable.

    May 03rd, 2013 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I think they are on the steeper section of the slippery slope. They have reached with is in all probability the last trade surplus. Once the deficits kick in, the collapse will really speed up. The there is the court case that will push them into a default, followed by the IMF. As this scenario is coupled with winter setting in and the lack of will certainly make for an interesting mid term election. I think as a matter of self preservation, her so called supporters will start turning on her somewhere around late summer, excuse me....late winter...August.....I think they will all start turning on her.

    May 04th, 2013 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    @12 clap clap

    May 04th, 2013 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tapestry-of-grapes

    She should know better than to speak the truth in South America. As a victim born in the place she should at least understand what the reaction would have been.

    May 04th, 2013 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Experts on magistrates and solicitors /again expressed concern /about the laws contained in the Argentine government-promoted judicial reform which might lead to the “politicization” of the judiciary branch.

    We say,
    Its up to them, simple??

    May 05th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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