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UK MoD challenges statistics on suicides among Falklands’ veterans

Tuesday, May 14th 2013 - 18:50 UTC
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The claim that more Falklands veterans have killed themselves since the war ended than died in action is not borne out by statistics, a study says. Some 255 UK personnel died in action, but a veterans group has said the suicide toll since 1982 exceeds that. Read full article

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  • Clyde15

    Who would have thought it, fighting for a just cause against Argentina is actually good for your health !

    May 14th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jwolf

    I would venture a guess that a similiar study involving Argentine veterans of the conflict would yield a much higher result of suicide. Not that such a study would ever be made public by the Kirchner regime.

    May 14th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Shhhh MoD! Now everyone will find out that the clean Falkland air is actually an elixir of youth.

    May 14th, 2013 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • José Malvinero

    It is probably true since they are based on a lie: the low 255 officially recognized by the invader.

    May 15th, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Can someone translate that for me please?

    The 255 officially recognised by Argentina? Huh?

    May 15th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @5 Anglotino

    Jose is trying to infer that, not only did Argentina sink the Invincible (on no less than 3 separate occasions) but Britain 'actually' lost 500,000 men (double the size of the British Army at the time), and only 'pretended' to lose 255 to make it look like we were really good fighters.

    I know it doesn't make sense to us, but in his tiny little brainwashed mind it does.

    He really is a nutter, and like any good La Campora troll, has been ordered onto just about every thread regarding the Falklands or Britain to DEFLECT, DEFLECT, DEFLECT away for the absolute mess that Argentina is in.

    May 15th, 2013 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @4 Jose

    I realise you must be annoyed that you were lied to during the war e.g. sinking aircraft carriers that weren't, and, winning when you were losing, but that's just Argentina. I remember watching the news every night and we were told the bad news as well as the good news - like adults. There are no missing names, everyone mattered and was claimed.

    It is curious that Malvinistas consistently accuse others of the things they most hate and fear about themselves. If only there were some psychoanalysts in BA to help with that.

    May 15th, 2013 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Don't forget they sunk the Canberra too... and then it miraculously raised itself from the waves to repatriate the Argies to Puerto Madryn. A weird one, that.

    May 15th, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    I'm sure Argentina would love to have access to this miraculous refloatation technology. God knows their navy could do with it recently.

    Their credit rating.
    Their currency.
    Their economy.
    CFK's approval rating.

    So many uses.

    May 15th, 2013 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @1 Don't be smart! This article is talking about DEATH. Just imagine that you're talking, in person, to the bereaved parents, children, other family, friends of someone that has died. Either “in action” or subsequently.
    @6 I thought it was actually 5, or 6, times that they sank the Invincible. It makes you wonder, doesn't it? Here we are spending years building these Queen Elizabeth class carriers and yet, in 1982, we built 5, or 6, carriers in 2 months! I reckon we should have words with the current workforce. Tell them to get their fingers out. Then we could have the carriers by tomorrow!
    @8 I realise that you don't know about this but all British-built cruise liners are actually submersibles. If attacked, they submerge, firing off various decoy explosive charges and projecting holographic images of a ship sinking. This fools the attacker who, when seeing the same ship the next day, loses his mind and dives straight into the water. This was very useful during the Falklands War as argie pilots are brave but thick! Essentially, their intelligence is at the level of “I dropped a bomb. I sank a ship. I must have sunk a ship because I dropped a bomb. Look, I pushed the right button. Didn't I?”
    Actually, all the Royal and Merchant Navy ships that the argies reckoned that they sank weren't sunk at all. They just submerged and sneaked away. Eventually, of course, there were questions and the MoD had to come clean. For instance, HMS Sheffield sank because a propeller dropped off and water flooded in. Atlantic Surveyor sank because her captain ordered the anchor cable wound in but forgot that the anchor was still in the seabed. HMS Antelope sank because a sailor set fire to it as he wanted to get home to watch Neighbours. HMS Coventry sank because the captain forgot that he wasn't supposed to turn the gun to port. It overbalanced.

    May 15th, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Jose - do please give us a hint as to how the families of all these mythical extra dead casualties have never ever spoken up and come forward to demand - where are they?

    May 15th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    Well it is worldwide known Anglo societies treat the old and war veterans like garbage.

    They talk a good game about how “our veterans deserve the best of the best”, but then you find out their veteran hospitals are bedraggled shacks not even African refugees would want to enter. They get no health services, they are routinely discriminated in the workplace, and usually end up begging for crumbs in the streets. That's the Anglo-American f-ing way.

    May 15th, 2013 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “Well it is worldwide known Anglo societies treat the old and war veterans like garbage.”

    And this is the example of someone that supposedly got into an Argentine university. Imagine the stupidity of those that don't!

    May 15th, 2013 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M_of_FI

    @12 - The 1982 veterans are treated as heroes and liberators in the Falklands.

    May 15th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @12 Tobias

    Tut, tut, Tobias.

    You sound like a jealous schoolboy. Jealous because the Veterans in the UK and USA are treated with honour and respect, unlike the Argentine Veterans, who are still fighting to be recognised, get war pensions AND are only ever recognised by the Argentine government whenever they want to score a few cheap political points at their expense.

    May 15th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • inthegutter

    #12 What utter stupidity and lies.

    May 15th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #12
    I always thought that your posts were mainly unsubstantiated crap, now you have just proved it to all and sundry.
    You keep telling us of your superior intellect and reasoning powers - you are suffering from self delusion.
    If this is an example of scholarship accepted by an Argentinian university, then God help your country !

    Unlike you, I have met some of our veterans suffering from PTSD and seen and spoken to a few of them receiving treatment. One of the UK centres at Hollybush is about 8 miles from where I stay. I sometimes meet some of the “patients” when I am walking around the grounds of my local agricultural college. Part of the therapy is working in the gardens. Being out in nature working with the soil and plants seems to have a calming effect and a refocussing on their mental attitudes.
    Why don't you lobby YOUR government for the same caring facilities.
    http://www.combatstress.org.uk/

    May 15th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (14) M_of_FI
    You say....:
    “The 1982 veterans are treated as heroes and liberators in the Falklands.”

    I say...:
    Tell that to “missing” Royal Marine Alan Addis Mum......

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Royal_Marine_Alan_Addis#Metropolitan_Police_investigation

    And then go and ask your Dad where they buried the body.....

    May 15th, 2013 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    1980, hello......

    Separate case, this is about war veterans of the Falklands conflict.

    May 15th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    18-Think - Totally irrelevant to the topic and issue. But yes an unsolved mystery/crime that does no good - and probably will remain unsolved as at least one of those who may have known the truth passed on some years ago.

    May 15th, 2013 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    Think just proved everyone's point.

    Apparently we covered up thousands of dead during the war.... In real life, one person goes missing and there is a wiki page, several police investigations, memorials and a documentary.

    May 15th, 2013 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Own goal Think!

    Way to go.

    May 15th, 2013 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    What a shock, Anglos disagree of criticism of Anglo culture.

    I'll fall over with a feather.

    May 16th, 2013 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Anglo culture?

    What the fuck is “Anglo culture”?

    May 16th, 2013 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @18
    This case is really sad, but at the same time Argentina were chucking out 1000s of their people into the sea out of aircraft-but only unarmed people because Argentines are Imperialists and therefore can only effectively kill people who don't shoot back.

    One person dissapeared in the Falkland Islands. Thats a tragedy in itself.

    30,000 people vanished in Argentina. That's a holocaust.
    (not suprising as you lot have retained the Nazi doctrine favoured by Peronism.)

    May 16th, 2013 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TroLLey_to_Truth

    @24

    How can you tell you live inside a balloon if you live inside a balloon?

    Anglo culture = anyone who speaks english, gets easily drunk causing public indecency or disturbance, and speak only one language from poor schooling.

    Americans, Jamaicans, Australians, Guyanans, British, Kenyans, South Africans, Canadians, etc, are all anglo. Same group of people.

    May 16th, 2013 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Above is another example of Argentina's finest for the world to see!

    Supposedly it's those of us from “Anglo culture” that attempt to make Argentina look bad.

    Don't really need to though!

    May 17th, 2013 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    #26
    I have puzzled over this conundrum but give up.
    Please tell us the answer. You MUST know as you are the one living in a balloon. There is no world outside Argentina. It is all rumours and lies.

    You have just published a top notch group of countries who have run the world successfully for centuries. I am rather surprised at the inclusion of Kenya - the Kikuyus would dispute this. You missed out N.Zealand and a few others I could mention,but who cares. I dare you to go up to an Afrikaaner
    and call him an Anglo. You would soon be missing some teeth.

    May 17th, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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