Argentine and Uruguayan magistrates and prosecutors are investigating an alleged network of corruption money, and probably money laundering involving former president Nestor Kirchner and close political and business cronies some of which continue in key positions or proximity to current head of state Cristina Fernandez. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNo wonder she wants to close down hostile media,if she succeeds Argentina will enter a darker time,now we know where all the money went.
May 15th, 2013 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good looking girl Nestor,s secretary,was she his mistress? C.F.K.s behavior suggests so.
Corrrrrrrrupt KFC and yet fools like Stink and Nostril can't resist all those $. They are all part of the corrrrruption network.
May 15th, 2013 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Former President, Jesus its current one they should be worried about
May 15th, 2013 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What makes this all the more disgusting (if the reports are ture) is that these are they very same people who try to convice the country that they are looking after the poorest in society. Sick.
May 15th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well they certainly didn't become multi millionaires by being successful solicitors. That was cfk's answer at Harvard last year. And both were at the government trough for a very long time.
May 15th, 2013 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0SHOCK!! HORROR!! PROBE!!
May 15th, 2013 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0KIRCHNER WAS A CROOK!!!!
Well that'a a surprise isn't it - I didn't see that one coming.
AS KFC presumably inherited all his ill-gotten gains perhaps she would like to demonstrate to the world what a wonderful person she is by giving all back!!!!
Well done Lanata!
May 15th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done CLARIN !!!
Once the Judiciary is locked down and media gagged, expect that CFK will make her move, Unfortunately.
These uncontested allegations are a simple confirmation she and her gang are corrupt. They - are - corrupt.
May 15th, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK could easily damage Lanata and Clarin that she so wants to destroy by simply saying ' ok come into my house. Look for the walk in vault. Lets open up Nestor's mausoleum..' Not only that but she'd win back loads of trust and thus votes in time for the mid terms and could seriously propose ammending the constitution for the re re election.
The fact she wont says it all.
Is it time to get the tanks out ? just a question :-)
May 15th, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can anyone
May 15th, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0please let me in on:-
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So that I can complete my posting please
muscle of the media ! umm... this guy Lanata has a show on Sunday for like an hour, on the other hand, she has the power to put all the focus on her and every channel obliges to listen to her bad mouth the opposition while she questions their intellegents because they disagree with her ... hate or like Macri, but he did the right thing by protecting the media from this monster !!!!!!!
May 15th, 2013 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now you know why they are in such a hurry to pass the 'whitewashing bill'
May 15th, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will bring back the money & legally launder it in the housing market & YPF before the Swiss banks get the request to open up their records
Also with the amendments to the justice system, the government will be immune from prosecution after 6 months essentially protecting this family of crooks from spending time in the ''carcel'
Ah ha. No argie malvinista La Campora trolls. Too much evidence, girls? Are you still waiting for the latest script? This is going to be hard to beat!
May 15th, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HMS C
May 15th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0please let me in on:-
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So that I can complete my posting please
There as been far to much smoke for years where both Kirchner's are concerned for there to be no fire.
May 15th, 2013 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, now we know how Clarin intends to fight back.
May 15th, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The intent is obviously to crush Sra Kirchner before Sra Kirchner crushes Clarin via the judicial amendments.
What a battle of the Titans!
Will the people vote for CFK even if she is shown - unambiguously - to have been at the centre of the giant corruption and the stealing from the mouths of the Argentinian people? ....
..... Of Course they will vote for her!
And even if nobody votes for her, the vote will still show 51% for CFK.
The vote will be immediately validated by Maduro.
16 GeoffWard2
May 15th, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No! It will be the famous 54% all over again!
BTW boss eyed Kirchner knew what he was doing having the 'secretary' along with him. Better looking than TMBOA. no wonder she sacked her, GRRR!
BK!!!!
May 15th, 2013 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get a look at that 'Secretary'!!!!
Way better looking than that frothing Harpy, TMBOA CFK, don't you think?
George Orwell was Nestor's idol. Much of his success was following the ideas from Orwell's essay Looking Back on the Spanish War
May 15th, 2013 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0from that Peronism specifically denies that such a thing as the truth exists. … quote: ...The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past. If the Leader says of such and such an event, It never happened—well, it never happened. If he says that two and two are five—well, two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs... unquote
wow, Im shocked.
May 15th, 2013 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not.
go figure: the Kirchner's are crooks... whodathunkiteh?
gasp, shock, horror.
Now wait for the usual suspects to arrive and tell us its all a lie unless it can be proven beyond any doubt on the internet right now and it cant therefore they are all innocent OBVIOUSLY!
oh, hang on - thats what the near total control of the media by CFK is for - sorry, my bad.
One day, God willing, the Judiciary will extend a search warrant for the Nestor Carlos Kirchner Mausoleum and the world will finally know how the Tuerto died--- I personally believe that it was a pistol shot to the head or back of the neck!!!!
May 16th, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would also be interesting to know if the permanent high tech security and police/security personel presence at the Mausoleum is because of the fact that Nestor was murdered or because there is a bank type vault full of stolen money in it, or perhaps both reasons. Why on earth do you need such a scale of security for a dead body?????????
@Simon68
May 16th, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree its a possibility. They presented a united front - but thats business. Behind the scenes who knew what the relationship was really like? Men of power often have mistresses - his secretary? So maybe there was some disharmony.
Greed is a powerful thing.
@21,22 Simon, Tobers
May 16th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting post, Simon!
The scandal and intrique of these events have the potential to be outrageous than that of Peron and Evita!!
Perón and Evita were nenes de pecho (new born babes) compared to the Kirchner mob!!!!!!
May 16th, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shock, horror hold the front page corruption in Argentina President is corrupt as Ronald Biggs. Who who'd have believed it. Cant we just nuke the frigging country and be done with it, none of the crooks deserve to live anyway.
May 17th, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@21 Simon
May 17th, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It would also be interesting to know if the permanent high tech security and police/security personel presence at the Mausoleum is because of the fact that Nestor was murdered or because there is a bank type vault full of stolen money in it, or perhaps both reasons. Why on earth do you need such a scale of security for a dead body?????????
It will interesting to see how she gets the money out, when it's time to leave!
AN EVIDENT CORPORATIVE DEFENCE.
May 17th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beyond i am a kirchnerist activist, i have never denied the denounces of corruption cases that involve c. f. k' s government, because i'm not neather idiot, nor hypocrite, like many of the hypocrite people who often publish their comments here, and who criticise only the corruption cases that involve the kirchnerist administration, but never say absolutly anything about the shameful legal protection that the clarin group could get in order to not to comply with the new broadcast law, sanctioned in 2009.
In some way, it's understandable that a cretin like jorge lanata doesn't say a word about the money laundering denounce, against the clarin group, which is the hands of justice since 2008, because it's obvious that he won't criticise his bosses, anyway it's necesary to say that not only is it pathetic, but also shamefully evident, the fact that he always makes reports in relation to corruption cases that involve c. f. k's government, but he never say anything about the corruption cases that involve the politic partners of the clarin group, like mauricio macri.
On the other hand, judge marijuan, who investigates the lazaro baez's denounce, has also the denounce that involve the clarin group, and in 5 years he didn't do anything. There is another evident corporative defence.
If lazaro baez, c. f. k., or anybody else commited corruption cases, they must be judged and sentenced, but if many of the people who often publish their comments here, or those who protested against c. f. k.'s government, criticising the corruption cases that involve c. f. k's govt., really cared about fighting against corruption, they would criticise also the denounces of corruption cases that involve the other politicians.
The problem of those people and clarin's, is their impotence, because like them or not, they know that its hightly probable that the f.p.v. wins in october, despite some negative aspects of c. f. k's govt.
Axl it's tough trying to figure out what you are saying....but I think I get the ghist of it. You really need to understand that there is a monumental difference between corporate corruption and political corruption. The two are and will never be viewed as equals. Most normal people hold politicians to a higher standard, just as citizens hold police and the like to a higher standard. This place is not about ranting about businesses, it is about politics and politicians. Kirchner is well known throughout the world for her suitcases of money and the way she and Nasty Nestor rifled Argentina. Nasty Nestor got his due but died much too quickly and easily. My wish is that for Cuntina Kirchner to suffer the pain and humiliation that eluded Nasty.
May 17th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 axel arg (#)
May 17th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0May 17th, 2013 - 03:02 pm
Axel:
Firstly you must understand that IF the Clarín Group was laundering money, it was their own money, it did NOT belong to the Argentine people!!!!!
Secondly, Mr. Marijuan is a District Atorney and not a Judge, his job is to investigate the alegation that the Clarín Group is guilty of laundering THEIR OWN money, and it is quite possible that he has found no proof, so cannot bring a case against them!!!!!
In the case of Lázaro Baéz, the main crime he is accused of is inflating the costs of public works, money laundering is a second tier crime which merely indicates that he has some reason to launder the money!!!!!
Read, mark, learn and inwardly digest the above and maybe you will become a better teacher!!!!!
@Axel
May 17th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK et all don't do anything to discredit Lanata or Clarin with proof. They just come out with very vague statements like 'He/Clarin lies' and 'he is/they are just trying to destabilise the country'. Lanata and Clarin are presenting evidence which should be investigated. What are CFK et all doing to prove them wrong and thus discredit them?!
The winds of revolution are here!
May 22nd, 2013 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Start by hanging asslips kirchner
May 22nd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0SIMON 68. TOBERS. CAPTAIN POPPY.
May 22nd, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SIMON: You can't be more rediculous and ignorant. If clarin commited money laundering, it's prejudiced the state, because it didn't pay it the enough taxes it had to pay, there is not any difference between statal corruption, and corporative one, and you know it perfectly, your problem is that you are so reactionary and hypocrite that you would find any stupid argument in order to avoid critics against clarin.
In the case of marijuan, he has the responsability of investigating the denounce against clarin, but in 5 years he didn't do anything. I recommend you to listen to what hernan arbizu declared, in relation to clarin's money laundering, and you'll realize about the difference between solid arguments, and your usuall ignorant and hypocrite comments.
CAPTAIN: Read what i posted for simon68.
TOBERS: You are not being serious aren't you, lanata's mediocre reports are often refuted with solid arguments by the pro kichnerist programmes. You can agree or not on their editorial line, but accept it or not, they have much more solid prooves than lanata.
Well if they committed tax fraud and laundering, why are they not charged with crimes?
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