MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
CFK calls for ‘empowerment of the people’ and another ten years of Kirchnerism
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez rallied a huge crowd Saturday night celebrating the 10-year government that she and her late husband Nestor Kirchner began in 2003. Her voice breaking, she called it a victorious decade, “won not by a government but by the people” and called for “the empowerment of the people” to defend what has been achieved in the ‘won decade’. Read full article
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May 27th, 2013 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 010 more years?!?!
1 Anglotino
May 27th, 2013 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Three little words my friend......
Oh.......My..........God!!!!
“Power to the People”
May 27th, 2013 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tooting Popular Front
Won't she need countless transfusions from the 'living' for a 10 yr extension?
May 27th, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0How long can the Cathedral go without its missing gargoyle?
Is she holding up a pair of Maximo's underpants?
May 27th, 2013 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take it argentinas prisons were empty yesterday??
May 27th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ to visit stores and supermarkets and check on prices. The task was recommended mainly to La Campora, the youth group privileged by ‘Mom’ Cristina and which is headed by her son Maximo Kirchner.”
May 27th, 2013 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The purpose of this is to confiscate all the pies on the shelves for Maximo's food mountain.
If Kirchenerism lasts another 10 years it will be unpleasant but as it has forced the F I G to state their case overseas, it is an absolute gift, though like a bad tasting medicine.
I see that the Venezualans are planning their own version of Kirchners SA la Campora thug pack stormtroopers to protect the administration. Dictatorship is spreading in South America as democracy and freedom retreat.
May 27th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice subject for Mercopress...
10 more years of Kirchner. Sounds hilarious, I approve :D
May 27th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Although I doubt it'll take another decade for her to finish stealing off whatever national assets are left.
another ten years yes please I've never been so amused
May 27th, 2013 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1, 2 I don't see a problem with 10 more years. By that time, most argies will probably have “expired” through malnutrition. But Indec will still be saying that people can get by on 3 pesos a day.
May 27th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I guess CFK will be in power longer than the UK of GB and NI has left of existence.
May 27th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Trolley-dolly
May 27th, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0did you know that envy makes you impotent!!!! which is presumably why your dick has moved to your head.
Campora realises that Toby is useless at arguing - they have assigned him to a junior 'Fear Mongering” position .
May 27th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie position next if he fails.
After that ???
Toby
You better get paid USD or food parcels, your falling Peso means your buying
@13
May 27th, 2013 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What did I say that is so radical? Can Scotland break away yes or no??
If truth be known, it was 8 years ´ganada´ with the last 2 years losing most of the gains. Nestor kept a tight lid on things but CFK with her useless advisors have opened Pandora´s box & we can all see the results
May 27th, 2013 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK may not even last out her mandate because of all her health issues & already there are rumours that Bobo Boudou will be the candidate in 2015....this will surely be the end of kirchnerismo since even government officials accept the fact that he is probably the most inept & corrupt politician of them all
The only good news is that the campora trolls on here will soon be out in force checking prices out in supermarkets & will not have time to post their blind ideology any more........the ones who actually live in Arg that is!!!
poor Argentina. ;-(
May 27th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina: NEVER part of the international community again. Keep hating haters, but we have on interest in you foreigners.
May 27th, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Won! Won what? Have I missed something?
May 27th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shes so glorious isnt she? Very much like Eva...
May 27th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, 67.4% of the ELECTORATE never voted for TMBOA last time and must feel they are on a ride to oblivion after this little love-fest.
May 27th, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But not to worry! Just when we think she cannot come up with any more crap – SHE DOES!
It will be these stunts that will finish her AND her poor health of course.
AND! No comment about the mythical Malvinas reported. It must have slipped what passes as a mind in that bloody awful head of hers.
BK will be pleased though: Bow-Wow as the next president. Mind you, BK has tipped all the twats in the government and the Trolley Dolly so he must be right one time at least.
@20 Eva Braun perhaps?
May 27th, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 we will, you cant afford the interest on your loans let alone interest in us nozzer
May 27th, 2013 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18, you like to pretend Argentina is independant enough to stand on its own two feet without the assistance of the international community but we all remember how you cried and begged for mercy last time the international community refused to give Argentina another handout:
May 27th, 2013 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/31/argentina-surprised-by-germany-which-voted-against-granting-a-loan-at-the-idb
You can't have it both ways, if you want to withdraw from the international community then you'll have to put the begging bowl away.
@12 “left of existence”. As opposed to “right of existence”. In specific reference to CFK, do you have proper toilets in your “country”? If you have (1982 suggests you don't), have you noticed how turds go to the bottom? They only float in the sea because of the density of salt water. So the answer to your “guess” is that you will have to throw her in the ocean. Noting the stage your mentality has reached, you will know that, in medieval “trial by ordeal”, after being thrown into water, floating is proof of guilt whilst innocence is proven by sinking. Seems reasonable. Doesn't it?
May 27th, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 And the relevance of Scotland is.......? But let's actually answer your question. Scotland is welcome to “break away”. Once it has paid the sum in excess of £2 quadrillion that it owes England. Once it has paid the relocation costs of all the businesses that will relocate to a proper country, i.e England. Once it has figured out how to provide the homes and jobs for all the Scots that will have to be “repatriated”.
@18 Excellent! And the date for secession from the UN, UNESCO, OAS will be........? Don't forget to hand in your membership cards for IMF, World Bank, G20 and so forth. Remember the bit in the commercials? “You may not get any money back”. And you still owe over US$90 billion! And, if you don't pay, the alternative is war. Where we come in and take what we want. Because we can. And you owe so much. Just get used to paying. 1 peso for you, 49 for us. Think you'll be out of debt in a thousand years? Don't worry, we won't let you starve. Not quite. But you will need to give your “best”. Thus the whips, canes, cudgels and the castrations. Just “encouragement”!
@15
May 27th, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course Scotland can break away...it's whether it will or not, and the choice is with the people of Scotland. That is self-determination.
Could the Falklands break away, of course...and they just voted 99.7% to keep the status quo.
However, could the Falklands break away from Argentina if the roles were reversed...of course not! They would need to be “educated” and informed what was in their interests.
In other words, Britain respects the self determination principle of the UN Charter and Argentina doesn't.
However as you are infatuated with Scottish Independence, and seem to think it is a certainty. I will wager $5000USD ( about 50000 Argentine pesos) with you that the Scottish people stay in the Union.
It's not a bad bet, the way the exchange rate is going, you'll probably win 1/2million pesos, by next year.
How about it Nostril?
Of course you could ignore my even money bet, and take what the bookmakers are offering between 4 or 5 to 1 last time I looked, with an estimated of 65-70% voting against Independence.
Of course things can change in a year, but sadly probably not for you.
$5000 will still be unreachable riches for you, all your college mates will still detest you, and unless you pay the local whore, you'll still be a virgin.
Never mind Nostril...at least you can post made up shit on a Internet forum.
well bk has not replied so he must be at the rally,
May 27th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still
ten more years sitting on a wall
ect ect
all good fun- unless of course ya names the UN , poor sods
lolol
@7 LOL
May 27th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
May 27th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If in Britain now “loans” are called “handouts”, then you and the yanks are the biggest mendicant bums on the planet. You survive if only by handouts from China, Japan, Brazil, Arabs, and anyone else buying your bonds.
You all so arrogantly talk up the UK as infinitely more capable, that Argentina can't do without the world, yet we HAVE and for 10 years almost no access to capital markets.
The UK would collapse into dust in a week if you had the “handouts” shut-off.
What is funny on these boards is the misguided Argie view that somehow Scottish Independence is anti-English.
May 27th, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The likes of Nostril and Stevie can't understand that the English population want Scottish Independence more than the Scottish do (as borne out by virtually every opinion poll).
The main reason both sides seeing potential benefits for the split has absolutely nothing to do with Empire or land grabs, or annexing people's against their will, that is Argie behaviour.
The English mentality, is, and has been for the past 70 years, if you want to be part of the UK (in whatever form, BOT, crown dependency, integrated nation) we will do our best to make it happen. If you don't, we will work with you towards whatever ends you want for yourself. This is proven successful with a very strong Commonwealth.
If Scotland votes for Independence, England (and the rest of the UK) will fully support it, just as they support the Falkland Islanders.
The main reason for the Independence question being relevant is that both England and Scotland keep getting governments that they strongly didn't vote for, and it actually makes the democracy we are so proud of, seem a bit abnormal.
Scottish constituencies are smaller than English and the average Scottish voters vote is worth about 130% of an English voter. Devolved powers to the Scottish assembly are still voted for by Scottish MPs in Westminster for England and Wales.
These anomalies have led to a Conservative-Liberal coalition that neither England nor Scotland voted for.
90% of the Scottish don't want a Tory government, probably 75% -80% of English don't want a Gordon Brown style Socialist tax and spend government.
Anyway, as stated above, the most likely end-game is not independence but further devolution, and ideally equally sized constituencies and no Scottish voting on any devolved issues in Westminster.
Win-win.
But, it's funny to see Nostril thinking Scottish independence is anti English. His ignorance is awesome.
The words “loan” and “bond” indicate an ability and a willingness to pay the money back, with the agreed amount of interest.
May 27th, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since Argentina borrows money without the ability nor the intention to pay it back, those words hardly apply.
But back to the subject at hand, you want Argentina to cut itself off from international relations. The problem is under CFK you've become a net importer of fuel (ie not enough domestic production to satisfy domestic demand) and once the high inflation and government price controls on basic foodstuffs start to drive your domestic farmers out of business (since your fantasy government would cut them off from export markets) you'll become a net importer of food aswell.
Fantasies of self-reliance don't work when coupled with chronic mismanagement of basic industries.
Good luck with the famines and all that...
20 Tobers & 22 Steveu
May 27th, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OR, carrying on the Eva Braun thing: BLONDI, Hitlers Alsation dog.
LOLs
@30 win-win!
May 27th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel it's somewhat similar to Puerto Rico. Not alot of Americans want as state, & they like being a territorrry.
More power to individuals and states, leess to central gov is attractive
Yeah! 20 years more of Cristina!!!!!!!
May 28th, 2013 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL
May 28th, 2013 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, indeed!
@34 Sorry, I refuse to continue paying for your laziness, and stupidity.
May 28th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has a new stupid idea every week that spells disaster for the country. Since Nestor died, she hasn't had anyone to keep her insanity on a leash. In three years, she's done so much damage that Argentina will not survive another three years of Hiteresque idiocracy.
You do realize that there is no rule of law that protects people from violent crime. I could kick you in the face repeatedly in the town square for your political insolence and the police would be more likely to place bets, than break it up. In a democracy, such violence would be prohibited; and you could be as delusional as you want, while I would have my financial freedom.
#34
May 28th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will have to stock up on botox and formaldehyde to see this one through
“It is necessary to empower the people, society with all the reforms and conquests of these ten years so never again nobody can snatch them away”
May 28th, 2013 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Said CFK doing everything she can to take their powers away and salting more money abroad top pay for her next 'job'
@Optimus_Princeps
May 29th, 2013 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you tell me how you pay for my “laziness, and stupidity” idiot?
The most probable thing is that I’m paying to keep your shitty job.
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRUTH.
May 29th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beyond the usuall distortions, or omisions that some media corporations commit, reality is what always prevaills.
While it is true that the marches against c. f. k' govt. were very massive along the country, it was shown last saturday that her administration still has a high level of support among our people, but it's not the first time, last year, on dicember 10th, what is commemorated like the democracy day, it was shown also the huge support by many people to her policies.
I went to plaza de mayo last saturday, so, i can tell a lot about the party.
While it is true that the square was full of activists, most them young people, it is also true that there were many other people who weren't activists, and who went with their children to enjoy the concert, and to listen to c. f. k's statement.
It took me a half hour to get into plaza de mayo, because it was too crowed. Fortunatelly the night wasn't so cold, i could see planty of beatifull men, i eat some delicious choris, and after i went to the disco to have a good night my friends, and with many other atractive men. I spent a very nice moment.
On the other hand, it's evident that the hate that some people feel for c. f. k., doesn't let them have enough intellectual honesty, in order to analyze something so complicated like politic is, that's why they make the usuall pathetic analysis that i often read in some media corporations, or the tipicall stupid comparisons.
C. f. k's govt, is not revolutionary in absolut, and it has some very negative aspects, and contradictions like all the governments. However only an ignorant who reads too partial information can deny, or invalid, or underestimate all the achievements that we could get in the last 10 years.
I alredy explained in many oportunities the true reasons of inflation, and i said also why it will take years to solve it. In the same way that i explained why in 2003, it was necesary for kichner's govt., to have clarins' support.
40 axel arg
May 29th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am confused: are you a woman or a homosexual? Just asking.
Axel - take away all the campora (the flag bearers were thick everywhere) and 'free' food and entertainment and tell me how many people would have turned up to the Decade Won party? Be honest now..
May 29th, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The campora shouldnt exist in a democracy. By 'militarising' the politics it shows that democracy is failing. They are not the cure they are the problem.
#18 titti boi......missing your mommas lactacious nipples? It makes you stay on stupid. However:
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina: NEVER part of the international community again.”
The most truthful and real thing you have ever said..........the only thing you excluded was that is is not your choice.
If it is your choice, drop out of ALL the international organizations or stop talking stupid. Or do you prefer to talk stupid?
40Axel
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you making a point of sexualising your commentary?
You seem to be going out of your way to express your enjoyment of ogling men - you mention it three times, or is it 'just' two?
A night of booze and clubbing, a good distraction for the“ masses”, as you have demonstrated.
two Troy, but what man calls another man beautiful and attractive? Axel must be female. Where do they move the 6 and 7 year old beggars when they have these Nuremberg like rallies?
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CHRISR. TOBERS. TROY TOMPEST.
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CAPTAIN POPPY.
I must recognize that i didn't think that you would ask me about my sexuality, actualy i thought you would tell me what you think about my politic analysis, which is much more important than my sexuality.
Anyway, i have never had any problem in recognizing publicly that i am a 31 years old gay man, i'm going to be 32 tomorrow, and i'm going to celebrate it with my friends at the disco next saturday, sorrounded by planty of beatiful men.
TOBERS: What is the problem wether the square was full of activists, or of people who weren't activists, what is the difference?. Why do you invalid the huge masses of people who support kirchnerism?.
Anyway, i'm not sorprised in absolut for your thougth, it's actually the tipicall comment of many other reactionary people like you, who often invalid or underestimate the people who support c. f. k's govt. It wouldn't sorprise if in you next comment you say that most us were paid by the government, in order to go to celebrate the may 25th, and the 10 years of kirchnerism.
Like it or not, all the politic parties have many activists, some of them more than others, but they all have active activists.
@46axel
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Like it or not, all the politic parties have many activists, some of them more than others, but they all have active activists.”
Yes Axel, but this was CFK's party that put on the ...party.
Paid??
Maybe, 'incentives to attend'??
“Bread and Circuses” Axel.
You are normally quite dispassionate, but for some reason this time you chose to be very explicit about your personal experience and observations. It seemed very odd and out of character for you.
I wondered why.
Why indeed?
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Axel, I think this goes for Troy as well, we don't care about your sexuality, that is your choice and I have no problems with homosexuality and most of all, it is none of my business....your sexuality. That being said, because it is none of my business, or anyone else's no one here wants to know your sexual preferences and this is not a forum for sexuality. Do you see us typing about drooling over women? No.....why? Because this is not a sexual forum. You could have been a female as I actually thought you were as I think Hep is.....but who cares.
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 049 Captain Poppy
Jun 04th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you see us typing about drooling over women?”
You have forgotten Blind Scottie Kirchnerist who drools over TMBOA.
Ahhh! I see your point: not really a woman. Quite true.
LOLs
lol
Jun 04th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A great speech and from Cristinita =) The clarity of her analysis, about the need for the people themselves to safeguard their advances, really shines out as far superior to the articles “analysis” that only seems to see her in terms of gross crass power politics, and the content of her popular project therefore as irrelevant. Btw its just goes to show her sanity that she said she's “not eternal” - imagine the outcry is she'd said the opposite! - but there's a comfortable margin between eternity and an absolute cutoff in 2015 =) But even if she really doesn't want re-election, or indeed if these mid-terms are bad for her, I still predict her chosen successor will win. And be a good choice, NOT just some right winger in the Peronist Party...
Jun 05th, 2013 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0#46 Happy birthday Axel =) And look on the bright side, at least these homophobes can't say your politics are based on lust for Cristinita!
And BK steps to the plate, the pitch is on, swings and MISSES....did you fell the air from here?
Jun 05th, 2013 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0BK even erect you are not much of a man are you? You are sad in your adulation of kirchner. Like Clyde said, you are no Scotsman, no one believes you, go back to whatever latin rock you came out from under.
No one here is a homophobe, but your type needs to label people. As previously stated, this is not a sexually forum, as we told axel. As for you, keep your fly zipped when discussing your asshole queen of disgust, the ugly cuntina kirchner.
Poppy
Jun 05th, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK was trying to make his Signsture “last word” post on this thread, a chance to sum up the troll messages and slag the “Anglos” before the thread is closed.
BK = Troll and Peronist
He does have an uncanny knack to post absolutely last on too many articles, whcih leads one to wonder. I personally do not believe he is Scottish in Scotland as do some Scots here.
Jun 05th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He does like to label people based on his unworldly experiences. ANd his adulating ramblings about kirchner is disturbing at best. Not just because she is overly face painted dogged faced snail, because BK needs to know looks mean nothing in leadership and politics and more importantly, this is not a sex forum.....ask Dr. Ruth.
55 poppy
Jun 05th, 2013 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He does have an uncanny knack to post absolutely last on too many articles, whcih leads one to wonder”
I'm sure that he uses his “TS” Troll Software package to track articles and expiry dates. It's all in his Supervisor database.
lol
Jun 05th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK is looking forward to his “Multi-Troll” software upgrade.
Jun 05th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THINK however, is already using it, with 'mixed results'.
:-)
I just often have too much to do in the real world to keep on top of every thread as they are published, but if there's something important, like this wonderful rally and speech, I like to have my say before its too late. Sometimes I don't even manage that! But its quite easy to see which threads are about to close, they always do after 10 days, and its become particularly easy since I learned to use the news archive, the only “troll software” that roughly fits your description, provided by mercopress =) Anyway I'm glad you provided me with the chance to post again, as there's something I should have said last time and forgot to: what a lovely picture =)
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