MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Mercosur plan to delay summit and give time to Paraguay to return with full rights
Paraguay is considering the announcement made by Uruguayan president Jose Mujica who suggested delaying the coming Mercosur summit in Montevideo scheduled for the end of June, ‘to wait and give time for Paraguay’ (currently suspended) to return to the block. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMercosur tried to teach Paraguay a lesson.
Jun 01st, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems Paraguay is teaching Mercosur a lesson now.
Mercosur isn't the only game in town but it does have the worst growth and inflation figures.
Anglolatino
Jun 01st, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Main difference between Mercosur pre and after this incidence, is that Venezuela has joined the club.
Reason that didn't happen before was Paraguayan Senate trying to teach their lessons.
Lesson learned.
Now lets get things back to normal with a fully Integrated Paraguay. Next to Venezuela.
Try learning that lesson.
I have an idea that some will be expecting Baxter to come in with all guns firing ! I will not bore you all with the details - a totally legal impeachment , a totally illegal admission of Venezuela , Maduro rushing around trying to incite the army to rebel , Mujica and his catchy “ practical above the legal ” , Mercosur Ambassadors leaving Asuncion , while the rest ( EU , USA , Vatican and others ) remained in the city and threats to close borders . All history now though a terrifying repeat of the Triple Alliance war with the same protagonists .
Jun 01st, 2013 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that Mujica has decided to postpone the June meet , where Venezuela will assume the Presidency of Mercosur , only because the current situation in that country is becoming intolerable . A somewhat close election , calling on thousands of workers to arm , crazy accusations against the USA and now Colombia .Not quite the right country , or person to run Mercosur .
@2 Stevie...I don't know if the tale you are telling is true, but if it is, then that is not something to be proud of.
Jun 01st, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Screenname
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie is correct.
And Mercosur is just starting to learn the English phrase “to shoot oneself in the foot”.
If anything, between Venezuela's dysfunctional economy and Argentia's dysfunctional economy and Brazil's economy pulling.... well what is has done before..... countries like Uruguay and Paraguay are looking at the high growth and easy cohabitation of the Pacific Alliance and perhaps wondering if their version of South American integration isn't more appealing and successful.
Stevie is correct, Paraguay will accept Venezuela into Mercosul/Mercosur and will move on in that group which is the right thing for them to do, long term. The rest here can keep on trolling or hyping up that so called P.A. club (what in the long run won't matter at all...)
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pacific Alliance ftw
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 ”that so called P.A. club (what in the long run won't matter at all...)”
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Pacific Alliance, focused on trade with hyper-growth Asia, won't matter in the future.
Mercosur, whose currently focused on obstacles to trade with the currently hurting European Union, will matter in the future.
Why?
I wonder if Stevie and Fido Dido think women should stay in abusive relationships?
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Best thing Paraguay can do for itself now is walk away from these jokers, they are toxic. That is the lesson to be learned.
8. Ecactly. While Arg & Brazil battle w Daddy Spain over what happened to the inheritance, other countries are hooking up with numerically literate Asians whose fortunes are rising because of the computer age.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Chinese are the real daddy of los Indios anyway.
The Chinese? Yes, we've heard of them... ;)
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is the perfect chance for Paraguay to give up in the dead and corrupt alliance called Mercosur. Time to seek somewhere else.
Jun 02nd, 2013 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Stevie
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 04:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hence the reason that Uruguay also belongs in the Pacific Alliance. It is more outward looking and welcoming to inward investment.
A more natural fit within PA than Mercosur.
Anglolatino
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why should SA markets be free when US and EU, especially EU, markets aren't?
Why do you guys always play that same tune “Do as I say but not as I do”?
@14 Stevie
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who is “you guys”? Why does everyone wail about what everyone else is doing wrong. Get over it. I don't see you whine about China's protectionism when you were lauding the recent business deals between China and Uruguay.
I don't see you continually whine about Argentina's extremely unlevel playing field.
What has my country done that is so protectionist?
Anyway, I see you didn't argue the point. I really do think that Uruguay is a better fit within the Pacific Alliance. If you were as Uruguayan as you keep claiming then you would want what is best for Uruguay.
The Pacific Alliance is export orientated. It is orientated towards international trade outside of the Americas and yet also a proponent of further integration both economic, business and social between members.
Why, pray tell, is Mercosur superior to the Pacific Alliance for countries like Uruguay and Paraguay?
What are Chile, Colombia, Peru and Mexico doing so badly?
What are Argentina and Brazil doing so right?
What is best for Uruguay and Paraguay?
@6 Nobody in their right mind would stick with fascist, totalitarian mercosur. Proven to be illegitimate. Paraguay needs to move on. mercoshit is just a latam quasi-nazi organisation with nothing to offer. PA has already outstripped it.
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Why not? The nation that will soon own your country.
@14 Well, it's mostly because you are nothing. You are just “resources”. Places where we get what we want. Don't misunderstand. Not what we “need”. There's nothing in South America that we “need”. South America, especially latinamerica, is pretty irrelevant. Do you not yet understand? We did without you for over 1500 years. Can do it anytime. Is that why you feel so inadequate?
Anglolatino
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You misunderstand me, I'm all for protectionism. Hence I don't criticize China for being so.
What I do criticize is EU and USA demanding SA to open up their trade when they too, EU and USA, are protectionists themselves.
Hence the “do what I say and not what I do”.
conq
Welcome to the new order. Enjoy it.
And that ladies and gentleman is how you deflect and don't answer a question.
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing changes on this forum.
Anglolatino
Jun 03rd, 2013 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Between me and you, you don't want free trade.
We got better meat than you.
;)
Stevie.....the USA has a 15,ooo,000,ooo,ooo economy and imports 15% of it. That is 2,250,000,000,000 worth of imports that other countries sell to the USA. You call that protectionism? How much does Argentina import as a % of their GDP and a raw dollar figure?
Jun 05th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Stevie.....that's trillion.
Poppy
Jun 05th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's not the size of the cashflow that matters, it's the products that are heavily taxed that are protected. Most usually, it's the agricultutral market. Because a free market in that area would dump the food prices and it would outcompete your farming sector, just as your cheap junk outcompetes our production sector. Yes, it's junk, built to last the guarantee plus 2 days.
Which doesn't mean you guys can't build, there's just not enough profit in a job well done.
So of coure you want FTA's, where you can sell your junk at lower prices than you do at home, and at the same time protect your Agricultural industry from the same monster you wish upon us.
Yes yes.....our Fords, (Green Falcons), Lincolns, Frigadaires, John Deere Tractors, Mack and Peterbilt trucks, Boeings, Trane, Shale oil drilling equipment.....certainly cannot compete with your quality as those are all junk and your quality tractors, autos, air conditioners, tractors are sooooooo much a higher quality. Are you stuck on stupid or born that way. Do the world a favor and take your children for a drive in a Falcon.
Jun 06th, 2013 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should take your brown face out of your asshole and know what you are talking about.
21. Brazil/Argentina can't even build a washing machine that doesn't catch on fire without USA help!
Jun 06th, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Stevie, What did I say about a Uruguay/USA FTA? What was it? What's going on now?
Seems like I know “your country” a little better than you do.
It's probably because I have been there and you haven't.
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