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UK consolidates its position as world’s second defense exporter after the US
New figures published on Friday by the UK Trade and Investment Defense and Security Organization (UKTI DSO) show that UK defense exports totaled £8.8 billion over the past year, a rise of 62% from 2011 in a global market that grew by 45%. The results mean the UK maintains its position as the second most successful defense exporter after the United States. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYet the trolls tell us that the UK is finished, on the contrary, dear Watson!
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0R Juntina, world leading exporter of corned beef and failed diplomacy.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just look at that. Little, failing (according to argie trolls) UK is second after the USA. Where is China, Russia? Argieland doesn't even appear in the top 10. Because it's peaceful? No. Because it's crap. Argie main battle tanks can be defeated by an Austin Mini with a Colt .45 mounted. Argie “combat” aircraft can be defeated by a helicopter, assuming the wings haven't already dropped off. Argie warships? Just wait. They'll sink. All by themselves. Argie submarine(s)? Glug, glug, glug.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This article title should read...:
“UK consolidates its position as world’s second merchant of death after the US”
@4 Think
Jun 21st, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You sound VERY jealous.
Poor Think, wrong at every turn.
Maybe you should get one of your sock puppets on here to 'back' you up.
In the meantime, Argentina is desperately trying to build a fighter plane that is already 30 years out of date, and it can't even do that without help from other countries! LOL
Think, its a better title than “worlds leading merchant of corned beef” isn't it? Does your new fighter use the cans as bombs? Or, does it blast the enemy to death with loud tango music?
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And just who are you trying to sell your Pampa III's to?
Let me guess, The Sally Army!
@4 See, as we have proved, we can stabilise countries, remove dictators, save people. Not something colonialist, genocidal, imperialist argieland can say. I see that, on behalf of the UN, argieland only takes part in “peacekeeping” missions. No getting out on the “front line”. No “danger”. No “guts”. Just how many cowards have you got? We can probably identify around 11,000 of them for you. Or are they all on “benefits”? That doesn't include the tossers that stood on an argie shore and thought “Glad it's not me”. Are you one of them, Twinky? A “veteran” coward.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple supply and demand. If dictatorial nutjobs in third world backwaters like Saudi Arabia and Argentina (how are those obsolete type 42 destroyers working for you?) want to buy arms, they are going to buy them whether we're supplying them or not.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just filling a gap in the market ;)
Think you only need to listen to the ramblings of Hector Timerman yesterday compared to calm and peaceful diplomacy from The British,there is no doubt Argentina is down the shitter- FINISHED.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no luck in selling those 13000 second hand rifles that have been rusting on the shelves for the last three decades. Large discount available, only one previous careless owner!
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep Calm Argentina-
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We Own the Islands
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UN told Falkland islanders 100% British
http://www.bfbs.com/news/
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As argentinian representatives break down and cry in desperation..lol.
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Royal Navy gets new spy drone in £30m deal
21 June 2013
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UK defence exports up by 62 per cent
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ooopppsss
@4....however!
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This article title DOES say...:
“UK consolidates its position as world’s second DEFENCE exporter after the US”, the clue Is in the title, as for “merchants of death” that would be Russia with its AK47 in the middle east and Africa, by far the worlds deadliest and most widespread weapon of the 3rd world.
Argentina could only drool at the weaponry that the UK exports!
Think,
Jun 21st, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's an idea for you, you could build and export those destroyers that roll over and surrender like that one in your Navy recently. I am sure you would find a ready market for them inItaly and other Latin nations!
Where is A_Voice aka TTT when there is REAL news to rejoice.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pampers, aren't they nappies that children do their 'business in'.
Sounds very similar to the Twat Timerman's needs after the C24 went so well for The Dark Country, NOT!
LOLs
Spaniargia should retaliate bolstering defences with new Spanish stealth submarine, avoiding detection by remaining submerged.a Or they could acquire a nuclear powered version from the fleet Brasil is constructing....Ooops! Not the 'N' word- what to do about that...
Jun 21st, 2013 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/350661
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/350661
@8 Conqueror
Jun 21st, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought you would appreciate this one...
'Making Sailors Sharper Shooters - The U.K.is testing a new simulator as it investigates techniques to improve the accuracy of sailors using machine guns on naval and auxiliary vessels....'
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20130621/TSJ01/306210014/Making-Sailors-Sharper-Shooters?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp
This is nothing to shout about as clearly we will lose the number 2 spot when Argentina stop buying ejector seats off us
Jun 21st, 2013 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have it on very (un)reliable Argentine evidence that the UK is finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINISHED I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
chuckle chuckle
think shows that the trlls are still around reading and waiting for something to say they think is clever. However think and the rest of the argentine trolls must be jealous as they not only cannot sell defense weapons, they cannot supply, support and maintian their own militray to defensive support themselves. That is pathetic. But it works for asslips “the cunt” kirchner as it makes it easier to send la campora thugs abnd her corrupt police on her citizens without fear of an inept military turning on her.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We should be careful, they might decide to attack us were it hurts, in our wallets.
Jun 21st, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now where did I read that before?
El Think perhaps!
Well it looks like we just out another 8.8bn in the defence fund!
@4
Jun 21st, 2013 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With any luck, yours hopefully. We have been very busy developing the most sophisticated armed forces on the planet and we need some real target practice. Send one of your rust buckets out towards the Falklands and lets see how it gets on :-)
And who these warmongers Bruts sell the arms to? Hmmmmm
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Tony Blair our very special adviser by dictator Gaddafi's son”
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How long have you lived here? And you read the Daily Mail!
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do me a favour!
TWIMC….
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Pirate Love”, ”Faz”, ”Conqueror” ”LEPRecon”, ”reality check, ”malicious bloke”, ”andy65”, ”Briton”, ”ChrisR”, ”Trunce!”, ”Steve-33-uk”, ”screenname”, ”Captain Poppy” &”Britworker commented above..........
We are just missing ”Yankeeboy”, “slattzzz” & ”Troy Tempest” for the brainwashed Turnip patch to be complete…..
Ps:
”Think” that some Anglos have the “Chutzpah” of asking why we Argentineans want those “English Merchants of Death” out of our territory!
What territory?
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't realise there were any English people occupying Argentine territory.
Why am I only finding this out now?
Quick hide your wallets!
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0But FFS, do not bury them in the Turnip patch.
It's the first place he will look!
Tbf we have to go looking for dodgy murderous tryants to sell arms to while rg maage to have a proud history of homegrown talent in that department.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Athough I belive they imported some talent in 1945/46
Arms for sale, arms for sale, pesos not accepted!
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troll in chief Think has us all neatly catalogued in his trolls handbook, we are obviously all under surveillance by RG land intelligence (is there such a thing as intelligence in RG land?).
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rg land has played a massive part in the success of British Arms Sales since 1982. We discovered and corrected flaws in our homebuilt weapons through dislodging the badly led and unenthusiastic RG land forces. This resulted in the rest of the world queuing up to buy our proven weapons. Unfortunately it resulted in nearly 1000 deaths, a fact that the RGs should hang their heads in shame for. Swedes and Turnips inhabit Patagonia a land stolen from the natives by RGs in an act of colonialism and genocide as celebrated on the 100 Peso note! Senor Think you are mixed up and as usual have put your foot firmly in it....
Think, here's some music for you... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-GvkyKEYRnM&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-GvkyKEYRnM
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0For 'England' Think 'Falklands'. !
@Think
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0those “English Merchants of Death” out of our territory!
Yep that cunning plan of sending that clandestine English unit of the Queens own Jock impersonators AKA the Scots Guards, to kick the Argies sorry arses off tumbledown.
Oh and a piece of advice Think, if you want your “territory ” back,you better start getting your very own “Merchants of Death” not the ones who murder your own folk, ones that can fight other soldiers
24 Think
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Glad to note that that you do not consider my good self to be a “Turnip” by the way....... How is that recipe for Turnip soup“ coming along, that I posted for you? De-licious!!!
It's no use trying to rubbish what is a state of the art, cutting edge industry we've got here.... You and I both know that if the situations were reversed, you would be shouting praises from the roof tops...
My dear enemy ”Think-me-not” Jealousy does not become you, you are so transparent, try focussing on Argentine success stories instead..... What's that? ohhh, I stand corrected, there are none.
I THINK the answer lies in the Title DEFENSE EXPORTER. Remind me ! Who invaded a country with 3000 inhabitants ( mostly civilians ) with over 11000 troops. You don't THINK it appropriate to DEFEND those civilians as long as it is required to do so? You are so nieve.You would be better off singing to the same tune as us.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think, a lot of our arms success is due to clever marketing and branding... Belgrano brand torpedos are really good sellers. The Yanks snapped up all our old Sea Harriers. Then there's the San Carlos brand Rapier SAM Missile systems. The RG Rapid Retreat brand of SMG has been very popular too along with the Tumbledown brand of 66mm rockets. The Gurkas have been doing quite well with their Instant Surrender Mount Harriet brand of curved knives.. Battlefield proven kit is in big demand. And, you can experience all the latest stuff yourself by setting up a return visit. Remember, 'every little helps' we are doing Clubcard points too.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC….
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that a few more brainwashed Anglo Turnips have sprouted in the patch since my comment (24) …..
“Anglotino”, “Martin Woodhead”, ”Captain Silver”, ”stick up your junta”, ”toooldtodieyoung” & ”golfctonie.......”
We are still missing ”Yankeeboy”, “Slattzzz” & ”Troy Tempest” for the Turnip patch to be complete…..
Ps:
Nice to see though that thousands and thousands of “non-turnip Anglos” are organizing against the “English Merchants of Death”…
http://www.caat.org.uk/
http://www.caat.org.uk/
@17 Well, it's sort of interesting. On the other hand, Portsmouth is on the coast. As such it has a number of amusement arcades. I doubt whether you could find a video game with a seven foot tall curved screen, but the principle is much the same. Now, replicating the motion of one's vessel in 12 foot seas and a crosswind would be an achievement!
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Of course we're finished. We've been FINISHED ever since they replaced oars with sails. And again when they fitted steam engines. Then, in another area of our crippled society, remember when they replaced horses with cars? And it was definitely the FINISH when they took away the man with the red flag. Then there were the railways. Definitely FINISHED then. How could somebody survive travelling at 30mph. How about Parliament? Must have been FINISHED when “common” people could get elected. Or was that women got the vote?
@22 Tell us who you sold the Pampero multiple rocket launcher to. Weren't you planning to sell your TAM tank to Malaysia, Peru and Panama? Didn't you sell the Pucara to Sri Lanka? Trouble is, you don't really have anything anyone wants to buy, do you? Take Faz's advice, try marketing those rollover destroyers!
@24 Do let us know when we're in “your” territory, won't you? Here's a tip. To determine “your” territory, on OUR side, you go to where the solid stuff changes to liquid and then a further 12 miles. After that you're a “target”.
@35 Don't make no difference, me old mangelwurzel. You know how it works. You let “dissenters” organise. Then you know who they are. You let them have rallies, marches and so forth. Sooner or later they''ll do something illegal. Then you take them out. That's the way it works in “your” country, isn't it?
Unlike you think I've actually been to the islands with the RIC .
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually owned an argentine rifle not all of them ended up at the bottom of plymouth and portsmouth harbours
Ahhhhh, how I loath the smell of war mongers first thing in the morning.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems that I remember a quote from someone in the distant past* who said “Live by the sword, die by the sword.” Or put in a way that more of you will be able to understand - “You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”
*the Gospel of Matthew, verse 26:52, for those of you who consider yourselves to be Christians. Then there is that uncomfortable quote that I will paraphrase for effect: ”.. it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man (or war monger?) to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-26. Just a thought for Sabado.
LOL @ Think.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Thousands and thousands” even.
PMSL and this is the best Argentina can throw at us on this forum.
@ Think , When you talk of turnips I hope you listened to the crap that RUSSIAN JEW Hector Timerman was talking two days ago in New York, Can you tell us what an Argentine is?? you all seem to descend from all corners of the world mas in plantation into South America it seems
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0#38. Are you the Pope in disguise by any chance? I should direct your missives at RGland if I were you. It's full of illegal invaders, liars, cheats, thieves, bent police, corrupt politicians and various other God fearing tosspots. More likely candidates for the fires of Hades than you will ever find in the Falkland Islands or England. We are peace loving homely race, generous in spirit to those less fortunate and fearsome enemies to those who would attempt to terrorise others like Rg okupas of Patagonia and would be okupas of the Falkland Islands. Vent the lords spleen on them.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 You should read the Old Testament. I think you'll find that “God” did a fair bit of “warmongering”. Isiah 19. Samuel 23:2. Joel 3:9. Alma 54:20. Alma 56:54. Mosiah 10:1. Exodus 15:3. Just take that last one. It says “The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name.”
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, Britain is a free country, just like the Falklands. If you oppose the arms trade you are free to do it, organise and demonstrate. It's not like your country with the thought police and La Campora bully boys just waiting to beat you up and jail you for saying the wrong things. Your dictator is seeking to extend her powers of oppression right now. Our arms protesters include 'the usual suspects', workshy scroungers with dogs on strings and anti everything outlook.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, we recognise that with rogue states like N Korea, Iran, and Argentina around we must remain on our guard and keep developing suitable weapons to pulverise them should it become necessary.
So, you all lay prideful claim to the title of War Monger. How nice of you.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 You can lay claim to the title of “Mong”. Plenty of Malvinistas have dribbled on here excitedly every time Argentina buys some more cheap second-rate military tat, and made excuses every time an ARA Glug-Glug sinks beneath the waves. Not to mention your blood-soaked history of massacring natives and the populations of your neighbours to steal more territory. You love war. It's simply that these days you're too poor, inept and pathetic to be any good at it.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shit at war mongering, superb at scare mongering, that's them.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#44
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vestige said:-
In the mean time Arg is upgrading and in the market for new fighters. (being a major nato ally means you can buy such things :) )
If you are in the market, then you have to purchase from a supplier. You buy from “warmongers”. So, out of all the worlds arms suppliers, only the British are “Warmongers” ? A rather biased view, don't you think. If you wish to be holier than thou, renounce all arms, disband ALL your forces, stop any manufacture of military equipment by Argentina.
Then your post may have some validity.
We are in the HiTec market of defence equipment, hence the value of exports not the quantity.
Other countries supply RPG's, AK-47's, land mines and plastic explosives to terrorist groups who kill more people.
“You can expect to become a victim of whatever means you use to get what you want.”
I could not agree more. Remember 1982 ?
Damn it, I bet we would have been first if them Argies had not stopped buying our ejector seats,
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0also worth pointing out it is nearly always UK and US first and second in 2010/11 UK was bigger exporter mainly due to the US buying our gear, that said we share a lot of military equipment with our US counterparts, but Britain is bigger in the nuclear sector and advanced warship technology such as that seen on the type 45 destroyer, the world's most advanced anti-aircraft warship a snip at only £1,000,000,000
But just for your Argentines, we're broke and I'm currently searching for a lost biscuit down the back on my mates sofa just so I can eat this week ;)
Not entirely true. BAE is still the worlds largest arms company. But the US far exceeds what we sell in terms of military equipment.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the 45 is a good ship but the US have far better destroyers.
You folks have me confused with someone else. I am a reformed US citizen (now living in Uruguay) , who couldn't stomach the war mongering of my former country and her client states (UK, Israel, etc.). I chose a peaceful country for a reason.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Zethee, the US equivalent of our Destroyer is the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, it's no where near as advanced as the type 45, it's 10 years out of date.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Americans consider the Type-45 the best of it's type, which it is, it's not an aircraft carrier. BAE is the worlds biggest arms company, but not from UK exports which this is based on.
TWIMC….
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only a few jingoistic brainwashed warmongering Anglo Turnips siding with the “English Merchants of Death” have germinated since my post (35) ……
“Britninja”, “Clyde15”, “Zethee” & “Anti-Muppet”…
That makes some 24 Turnips on this patch.…
Still missing the input from prime Turnips as ”Yankeeboy”, “Slattzzz” & ”Troy Tempest” though……
PS:
Rylang23……. Good you made it….. Hope it works for you!
Best of lucks…
El Think.
Think..hope you have now got us all nicely catalogued. I 'Think' the term war monger can only be applied to those who initiate wars, and as far as RGland is concerned that leaves your implanted population with the red card. In 1982 when you declared war on the defenceless Falkland Islands. We had no option other than to send you off.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tough titty turnip!
Absolutely in line with your cowardly action of sending 11,000 well armed troops against a peaceful island folk, you have since failed to join any international efforts to rid the world of oppressive dictators and terrorists. Now RGland is facing the challenge of a corrupt brutal dictator once again deploying thuggish storm troops against her own population. Don't 'Think' we will be stirring our stumps to help you....
@Think, Brainwashed lol, not at all I just really f&**&king love warmongering especially against bullies and backward Nazi protecting nations such as Argentina,
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You might say warmongering, I say protection, you say English Merchants of death, I say British Merchants that stopped the spread of the evil Spanish empire who wiped out both the Myan and Egyptians.
The British that saved Europe and saved the Jews, thing is with people like you, you live in a world with rose tinted specs, now get the ***k off my militarised Turnip patch before I nuke your Cabbage ass.
You think weapons are not not essential, take a look around. One thing about the English/British we are not easily insulted in fact we enjoy a bit of Rhetoric - it just goes to show the weakness of the opposition, clutching at straws.
I think he's mad that the best manufactured item that Argentina makes is a washing machine that will most likely catch on fire.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Made in Argentina” doesn't really inspire faith now does it?
@Yankeeboy, lmao, I think it's meant to be a submarine; although it shares the characteristics of a washing machine in that anything you put in it will likely get wet.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That said I bought something made in Argentina, it was a white flag, tbh it's never let me down, a reliable bit of kit from Argentina.
TWIMC
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tally is now 25 Turnips on this patch.…
Still missing the input from prime Turnips “Slattzzz” & ”Troy Tempest” though……
@Think, a quote that sums you up perfectly from our friends over the Atlantic - “You brought a knife; to a gun fight”
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still await any form of true argument from you, only you choose defamation, which means jack to two of the most powerful nations on the planet. Go play with your toys Cabbage
Turnip at (58)
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Real men fight with their fists and the winner pays for the beers afterwards...
Knifes & guns are for coward turnips.
Strong with the weak and weak with the strong
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0isn't that the Rg national motto?
Cabbage at 59, silly, Cowards attack small populations with unprovoked military force, then raise the white flag and run away home licking their wounds for 30 years and crying about it.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Real men win wars, not cause them - you cannot defend the defenceless, you'd do well to remember that we did not start the war, we simply won it.
Fist fights eh? Just 'Think' of our recent contests England vs The Pumas 3-32, 26-51, and it was only little England, not the whole UK. It was a fair game, largely good tempered. Now, if you could only stop all the nonsense just 'Think' how things might get better.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You trolls, particularly idiots like Raul, Marcus and Jose reckon that Britain is down and out. Clearly we are not, in fact we continue to punch above our weight. I realise that posting your nonsense on here probably pays the rent but can we just have a little more intelligence and humour please.
@Faz, you're right, more intelligence and humour is needed, no further comment from me today.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain will always punch above it's weight, it's not about money more the general personality of what we as Brits are.
Oh I'm here Stink laughing at you as normal
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#59
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Knifes & guns are for coward turnips.
Real macho-men prefer airlifting people -preferably nuns - throwing them out of the aircraft - and seeing how long it takes them to hit the sea.
You disappoint me.
I thought you were pro-Argentina.
Clyde, I think you were just describing a common occurrence during the illegal Viet Nam War, where the art of disappearing people was perfected. The CIA taught the fascist Generals that trick at their infamous School of the Americas. I don't consider the Generals Junta to be anything but an extension of Washington's notorious Monroe Doctrine at work. Don't hold those years against everyday Argentines, as they did not agree and were not complicit.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[British turnips]
[R]
Real men fighting with their fists and the winner pays for the beers afterwards
[Argentine Carrots]
[R ]
People who invade innocent unarmed and defenceless islanders without provocation and without warning,
And then claim to be the victim..
We say=
What are you a =
British Turnip-
Or
Argie carrots.
[long live the British, and the rugged rough hard weathered tough turnips,..lol..
lata chaps ..
66. Don't hold those years against everyday Argentines, as they did not agree and were not complicit.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That has to be the most moronic statement I've ever seen.
I 'Think' the turnip suits Britons nicely. Solid, dependable, unpretentious. Baldrick would have throughly approved.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for RGs, I 'Think' “Greasy Sprout” is a fitting description - slightly sour tasting with very unpleasant after effects, and a noxious 'Stink' from the nether regions the next day.
Trolls seem to shun British good news, why is that?
the first TURNIP turned up at comment 4 to be quickly fertilized with manure at comment 22
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical how articles like this attract all the jingoistic brainwashed warmongering Anglo Turnips......
English Turnip “slattzzz” anounced his presence at (64).....
Only Anglo-Kanuk Turnip “Troy Tempest” is missing....
That would complete the Turnip patch....
ah commander are you upset....diddums.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Born in Bermuda, British (not English) by the grace of god thank you, how is the weather in Dover?
66 rylang23
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I take it you have never seen the videos of the Argentines praising the Junta and the cowardly attack on the Falklands?
Millions of the bastard Peronistas crowing the Junta? These were not Americans who, as an American citizen yourself you seem anxious to distance yourself as somehow causing the Junta? Are you serious?
As far as I am concerned there are two distinct groups in Argentina:
1) the despicable Kirchnerites, the true inheritors of Pernonism and all its devious cowardly actions which continue to subjugate the reasonable people. I call this group argies. From the last election analysis it seems there are between 12 – 15 million of them.
2) the rest of the population such as my next door neighbour and his family who live in BsAs and Simon68 and his family and the like I call Argentines and they have my complete respect and condolences for the fact they are held hostage to TMBOA and her bunch of crooks.
I don’t think I am on my own with this clarification. Hope it helps.
#71 On the contrary, articles like this attract well informed free thinking people from all over the world. Brainwashed RG trolls pop up spitting bile and untruths. Trolls like you get challenged and lampooned when you endlessly repeat the untruths drummed into you at infant school. Your complete lack of any sense of what is right and wrong, and your propaganda fed lack of knowledge of world affairs is on display for all to see. It's no surprise that there are rows of decent folk telling you you are in the wrong. You are all pathetic...
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes there are a few things we are not very good at as a nation, unfortunately for Argentina, war isn't one of them :-)
71 Think
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...........and then, of course, there is always Roast Turnips, particularly good if roasted in duck fat...... Wouldn't you agree Think-me-not, dear enemy of mine?
#66
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NO, I was describing what appears to have been a regular occurrence up to 1982, in Argentina. However, I am sure that there were other equally “brave, manly ways” of getting rid of people - by fist fights and then beer ?
However, you have opened my eyes to the fact that it was the“American's fault” and that no Argentinians were involved !
Even the treatment of the civilian population in the Falklands must have been the American's fault - nothing to do with the Argentinians !
Honest Guv, it was the junta wot did it !
TWIMC….
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every single day, there are several new Kim Phuc’s injured or killed by Anglo “Defence” technology…..
http://purpleblogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/1354714-kim-phuc-11.jpg
What’s the civilian body count in Iraq till today?... Half a million?... One million?
What’s the civilian body count in Afghanistan till today?... Two hundred thousand?
What are those Anglos “defending themselves” from?
Brainwash anybody?
whats the body count in Syria so far with all those RUSSIAN provided weapons 90,000 so far and counting the majority of which are civilians, that don't matter though eh Stink? They aren't on the Falklands. Which is probably just as well for rgenweener because they wouldn't put up with the shit you afford us.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would that be cuisine and dental hygiene?
Or..........war........
sehen und zu lernen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N97ExRXnaFM
@80 You are Pathetic TTT
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A_Voice and Think, Just wondering what the body count must be in The South Atlantic ??????? THE DISSAPEARED dam that was quite something where you dropped your own out of military aircraft alive and a couple French nuns also
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my, Oh my, Oh my!
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A so called dispute over a century or more and just who was it that resorted to the age old answer to sort it?
The British? Think not!
The islanders? How!
Argentines? Well history says so!
Criticise all you like my Argentine friends, if the weapons have become better, it is because of you!
If we sell them, it's to make them better, if we ever have to use them again.
a voice/TTT why are you in Canada you have said before you can't go back, is it because your a Deserter?
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Slatzz.
Jun 22nd, 2013 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From what?
The ferkin university library!
A_Voice
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please learn German before attempting to post it. I THINK I've told you this before.
And go easy on Think guys. Remember he is a product of his country. A country where the government lives in fear of their defence forces.
A country where their defence forces once dropped citizens out of planes over the South Atlantic.
A country that has routinely had the military take over in the past 100 years.
For those of us coming from true democracies where we hold our armed forces in pride and not derision; it is hard to fathom.
So go easy on him. As you can see, all he did all day was wait for us to come play.
One Argentine army truck driving down a road, a convoy.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Two Argentine army trucks driving down a road, a coup!
Three Argentine trucks driving down a road, delivering Turkeyneck's weekly make-up budget.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0For Argentine army trucks driving down the road,
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0carrying CFK's weekly deposit to her vault.
@80
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least our Navy didn't run and hide for the rest of the war, after one of our ships got sunk
Please go easy on Think.. he has been on his own this weekend. Poor chap is totally exhausted... And the sight of all those missiles has totally freaked him out.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@87
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0What do they call 300,000 British and French troops running down the road towards the beach?...................Dunkirk!
What do they call the thousands of trucks, weapons and equipment abandoned?.........Booty!
TWIMC
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see that no new Anglo Turnips have sprouted since my comment (71) …
But several of the old ones are getting bigger…
Celebrating their “Armed Farces” murder of ~100 civilians for every odd Camel/Donkey Riding “Terrorist” they manage to shoot dead from the pressurized security of their 100,000,000 dollars fighting jets…..
No wonder that people all over the world are reacting.
Any of you turnips been in the Middle East, Asia, Africa or Latin-America recently wearing an Anglo T-Shirt with the inscription “Support our Troops”?
@24 Richard
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's not your territory.
Head.
@50 Oh, look. A “holier than thou” joe. I see you didn't rush off and read my selected texts from the Old Testament. There has to be a deep, dark secret. When anyone says they are “reformed”, there always is.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0@59 Then why do you give them to the girls in your so-called “army”?
@66 Ah, yes. The good old Vietnam War. A few little statistics. One is that, during the war, U.S. troops murdered about 6,000 civilians. That's a lot. By comparison Viet Cong insurgents assassinated 37,000 civilians. In addition, North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troops murdered between 106,000 and 227,000 civilians in South Vietnam. Khmer Rouge insurgents shelled Phnom Penh for more than a year inflicting random death and mutilitation on 2 million citizens. Anyway, we've got you tagged now, haven't we? “Mea culpa” is so boring, isn't it?
@78 Shame about Phan Thi Kim Phuc being South Vietnamese. Bombed by a South Vietnamese pilot after her village had been attacked and occupied by the North Vietnamese. And after a 14-month hospital stay and 17 surgical procedures, she returned home. North American surgical procedures? For anyone interested in more facts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Phuc_Phan_Thi Anyway, Twinky, a bit of lying and misrepresentation never hurt, right?
@79 Yeah, I notice that the Russians don't “agonise” over whether they should get “involved”. They just do it. And nobody says squat.
@92 Thanks for the answers. Just how many German troops ran for Berlin in 1945? A bit further back, 18 June 1815, do you think it significant that Napoleon lost 51,000 out of 72,000. And why shouldn't we recall the 11,313 argie prisoners who surrendered?
@93 Why would civilised people visit the Third World?
@92
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0heres one or you, what do you call a dead argentine invader? a slow runner,
what do you call 600 dead argentine invaders? a good start!
the funny thing is Britain beat their enemies in that war too,......have a nice day!
Ah! Twinkey has woken up at last, I thought for a moment we were going to be short of entertainment.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Any of you turnips been in the Middle East, Asia, Africa or Latin-America recently wearing an Anglo T-Shirt with the inscription “Support our Troops”?” Yep, been to all those places within the last three years and as a Brit with Indian/Irish heritage have been made welcome everywhere.
Off to India soon and Chile after Christmas.
Do not 'Think' you have ever been out of RGland, you show complete and utter ignorance of other counties other than the one you are a foreign okupa in?
Anyway, we shall continue building our aircraft carriers, Typhoons, JSFs and type 45s with glee. Along with the Belgrano brand topedoes they are selling very well along with all the airbuses, aero engines, luxury cars, luxury clothing, JCBs, and plastic models of tower bridge. Compares quite nicely with those tins of corned beef.
Turnip at (97)
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhhhhh.......................... a well travelled Turnip.
Good luck with your Anglo “Support our Troops” T-Shirt in India and Chile.
Don't try it in Woolwich though...........
Well Think still posting the same time as our friends from the EU UK. He'll say it's because he is old and senile but we all know he's not been to Rgland since the 70s when a Ford Falcon chased him out.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what a sad piece of work
On happier note,
Bakers are buying up the retail flour since it is 1/3 of what they pay in the wholesale market so all the store shelves are empty!
Paraguayans are buying up the cooking oil since they can make U$30K a truckload by selling it in their own country. Again empty shelves!
My theory is that every generation the smart and productive RGs leave for better countries so the gene pool is getting dumber and lazier with every generation.
Anyone else have a theory why these Rgs are so dumb?
@99 yankeeboy
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said as much to MagnusMaster on another thread. He is a young man presently at BsAs Uni and realises the problems his country is in.
Leave or starve will soon be the message.
Stink, we got it wrong in Afghanistan, we should have known, we tried it long ago, we failed. You can't flush out terrorists with a modern army. But, you can try to make peoples lives better by flushing out oppressors who cut peoples limbs off, murder others for trivia in public spectacles, supress and mistreat women etc. Rather like the folk that supressed these people, murdered many, stole their land, and are apparently still doing it. These okupas should take themselves back off to Europe. http://upsidedownworld.org/main/argentina-archives-32/2510-argentinas-bicentennial-indigenous-tell-another-history
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#98
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't try it in Woolwich though...
Why ?
Turnip at (102)
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think............
100. It is sad for the few productive and/or smart people who live in that horrible place. Knowing you'll never succeed and if by the slim chance you do either the unions or the gov't will drive you out of business.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Better to escape when you can even if you have to live illegally for awhile.
My Rg friends here in the USA would never go back. A few years back IADB was sending all G4 holders back to their country and they had 90 days to get out of the USA. They were panicked and practically suicidal.
They didn't want their kids to grow up there.
@103 - Think
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After the terrible incident with Dmr Rigby, the Help for Heroes charity received tens of thousands of orders for they t-shirts, hoodies, wrist bands etc... In fact, you could barely move in Woolwich without seeing signs of the British peoples support for the troops, from ALL sections of society, even those who are muslims, who were as horrified by the actions of these cowards as anyone else, especially as they claimed to be doing it for their religion.
Unlike you think, we British aren't cowards, and won't be swayed by the actions of terrorists.
Just like on the 8 July 2005, the day after the Al-queda attack, Londoners sported t-shirts with the logo: still not scared upon it.
Let's compare those actions to those of Argentina, shall we?
Instead of pursuing the terrorists in the AIMA bombing, your government cosy's up to the people who did it, and by doing so has betrayed all of Argentina's people, not only the victims and their families.
By doing this they have shown the world that Argentina is willing to be scared and pushed around by terrorists, and to do business with them, because that is more important than the lives of Argentine citizens.
But never mind, at least Argentina is building a sh!t aircraft, that is already 30 years out of date before it comes off the production line.
Just 'think' about all the cool military hardware Argentina could have, if it wasn't for the ineptness and corruptness of your own government at both local and national level.
Yankeeboy...
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“My theory is that every generation the smart and productive RGs leave for better countries so the gene pool is getting dumber and lazier with every generation.”
Just like the film “Idiocracy”
Rgland will end up like that....
The UN Visitors Centre has just confirmed that ALL PEOPLE are entitled to self-determination.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://tinyurl.com/15hbt2b
TWIMC…..
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see that many Anglo Squatting Kelpers have recently become MercoPress's ”Facebook Friends” ….:
The Barkman’s, Betts’s, Biggs’s, Bonner’s, Clement’s, Clifton’s, Cockwell’s, Edwards’s, Forster’s, Fowler’s, Halford’s, Halliday’s, Harris’s, Hewitt’s, Jaffray’s, Jones’s, Kilmartin’s, Luxton’s, Marsh’s, Ormond’s, Peck’s, Rendell’s, Short’s, Pollard’s, Sawle’s, Summers’s, Watson’s and many others I don’t know…….
Any special reason for that?
;-)
“Zethee, the US equivalent of our Destroyer is the Arleigh Burke-class destroyer, it's no where near as advanced as the type 45, it's 10 years out of date.”
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are joking aren't you? The 45 is a great ship but the only advantage it has over an AB is it's new radar system and it's not that much more advanced.
I mean just look at the specs on the two ships
AB - T45
5“ 62 calibre, 62nm range 4.5”, 13nm range
96 missiles 46 missiles
TLAM land attack missiles Nothing
2 x MH60R helos 1 1 x Lynx
torpedos + sonar avoidance suite Nothing
SM3/Aegis Nothing
The Arleigh Burke-class is a much cheaper and versatile ship than the T-45 will ever be. Just because something is 10 years ewer doesn't make it better.
The T-45 would hit missiles more accurately, yes but that does not mean it is better, for example:
48 Asters with say a 90% kill rate, would take down 43 targets.
Even if a AB only used 80 missiles. and had a far lower digree of accuracy(say 80%) it would still destroy 64 threats.
Our navy may say it's the most advanced and technically it is, but it's nowhere near the best.
@108
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://youtu.be/1NLV24qTnlg
OCD Anyone? ; )
#102
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't try it in Woolwich though...
Why ?
Today's Telegraph :- Quote...........
”Solidarity with the military has defined the country's reaction. Help for Heroes – the charity whose T-shirt Drummer Rigby was wearing when he was murdered – was overwhelmed by requests. They switched their 9-5 warehouse operation to a 24-hour schedule and opened phone lines on weekends in an effort to meet the surge in demand. Their website temporarily crashed and was soon sold out of almost every piece of merchandise. Woolwich's response has tried to epitomise a similar solidarity. Within days local leaders of all faiths gathered to denounce the killing and pledge unity.
Of course , YOU would know better than the rest of the UK being ensconsed in the arse - end of nowhere-Chubut ?.
I think-(pity you don't)- wearing a Taliban shirt would be much more dangerous ANYWHERE in the UK.
Turnip at (111)
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Today's Telegraph brainwashing you English Turnips into thinking you are just a tad better than the rest and blaming ewerything on “Deranged Muslims”....
Conveniently “forgetting” that you Anglos have, during the last ten years, invaded two Muslim Countries , murdering more than a million Muslim civilians in the process.....
To “Defend” what?
@112 The UK is grateful for Argentina's contribution to WW2 and entry into the war in MARCH 1945!
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and then the was the help that the 5,000 Nazi War criminals received from the Peron's. Nice.
Arsehole at 112
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0changing the subject again ?
You said don't wear a help for heroes shirt in Woolwich.
My reply refuted that point. Here endeth the lesson
The Dunkirk evacuation, commonly known as the Miracle of Dunkirk
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British, French, and Belgian troops were cut off by the German army
remaining 40,000 men of the French First Army in a delaying action against seven German divisions, including three armoured divisions
Dunkirk or the Falklands
To be fair we were kicked out of France [fighting all the way]
A fantastic withdrawal, even if it was initially a disaster,
But up against over 7 German divisions two tank battle groups,
And hundreds of German planes, A bloody miracle if ever there was one,
Ok, we lost the battle, but we did win the war.==
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
And the Falkland’s and the glorious argentinian battles and fighting withdrawal,,
Mmmmmmmmm
The argentines was up against the royal navy,
Less than 20 planes, and fighting less than six thousands British troops on foot,
Argentina had approx well over a hundred planes,
A navy, and thousands of troops,
No glorious retreat thus lost the battle and the war.
To be fair you cannot even contemplate comparing the two events,
Especially when the Argies, who had overwhelming forces were spectacularly defeated..
Still====
To be fair, nothing much has changed, considering the Argies are still losing ….
perhaps the future will be brighter,=under the brainwashing lamp . lol
@4,24,35,52,57,59,71,78,93,98,103,108&112
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HRT Anyone?
ElaineB - No misogyny intended : )
So, if i read Thinks position correctly, anybody who sells arms, or has arms, is a warmonger?
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Argentina, as an exporter of arms, is also a warmonger.
His contention is that because Britain's armaments are more desirable they are a bigger warmonger than Argentina... and that it has nothing to do whatsoever with quality of equipment on offer.
His argument is thus: “The UK is a bigger warmonger than Argentina because your equipment is better.”
Sounds like a rather crappy argument to me.
Typical Think really: naive and ill-informed.
I Think someone is having a problem understanding that people from the UK and USA love our troops and are proud of them.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course we've never been dropped from planes by them...so there is that.
Think, why do you Think we are in Afghanistan?
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway this discussion is about Britains success in manufacturing and supplying arms. We are very successful. Your boss, Timerman (the failed diplomat and foreign object) must be furious.
Still, you could try a kayak attack, or send what remains of your air force, we welcome target practice. I see your naval forces have now been reduced to one square toffee after the type 42 rolled over.
We like you, and as a symbol of our esteem we are sending you and Timerman Help for Heroes tee shirts. Please wear them often, particularly on visits to the UN.
those typhoons are beasts of a machine, no wonder the trolls are running scared! if only they had something that could rival UKs potent aircraft, then maybe they too could have an export to be proud of.....great news!
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Zethee that is the equivalent ship, and it's as good technology wise, its not just our Navy that think that, been following this project since 2003.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These look interesting from BAE Systems
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Mantis
Do The RG's have any concept of how far they have been left behind?
Ooo just look at that aircraft with all those rockets……..it's brought out all the little generals in their orgasmic glory…….daydreaming and plotting their conquests in their next online war-game…..from their centre of operations command bunker (bedroom).
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now arguing who's is biggest and best……..carry on peeing up that wall guys………or better still, get a life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMIHY7jM7-Y
Poor Think.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@124
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gilbert and Sullivan, such fun - Duke of Plazatoro- Gondoliers.
“When to evade destructions hand, when there was any fighting - he led his regiment from behind - he found it less exciting.” : )
http://youtu.be/P7QKMk8wImE
“Argentines up against the Royal Navy!” That's what we were most afraid of Rg Nancys are prolific, they locked em in the cabins on the Canberra.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Think, always keeping an eye out behind. After a few weeks on our islands they would take on anything.
What I don't understand is how Britain managed to become #2 in international arms when only last week Think was saying Britain produces nothing at all and has a totally failed industry incapable of building anything that anybody in the world wants.
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hate to say it, but it looks like Emperor Think is wearing no clothes.
(again).
What is an apropos name for somebody out done by Turnips?
Turniped?
Turnipidity?
Turnipated?
109 Zethee
Jun 23rd, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The two ships do not have the same function and I frankly would not have put the American vessel up for comparison.
The T45's are a floating air threat destroyer, with a much better strike ration than you 'suggest'.
But it does not matter what the differences are, with the twat Obama as the POTUS, America will never get involved with the Falklands, not even using his mouth in our support.
I had such high hopes about this man only to find he cannot get over what the Brits are supposed to have done to his father, a Muslim, no less. You do know what that means under Sharia law, and what that means for Obama, don't you.
I'll give you one guess, just one mind you.
@128 ChrisR
Jun 24th, 2013 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I had such high hopes about this man only to find he cannot get over what the Brits are supposed to have done to his father, a Muslim, no less. You do know what that means under Sharia law, and what that means for Obama, don't you.”
Ah yes, the so-called nastiness that the British did to his family in Kenya, who were apparently on the side of the Mau-Mau, which was impossible as his family weren't of the Mau-Mau tribe and therefore would've been killed by them. Most people don't seem to understand (Obama is one of them) that the Mau-Mau hated all those 'other' tribes far more than they hated to the British.
Obama also failed to mention that the evil British charged his father (who was in the British Army - not the Kenyan Army) with theft, because he stole the silver from the Officer's Mess.
No wonder he doesn't like to talk about it. It's hardly the struggle against the 'white' man when you find out your father spent a few months in the pokey and then was dishonourably discharged from the British Army for stealing, no less.
Good job the British Army doesn't have Sharia Law isn't it? His father would be one hand less if they did.
@129
Jun 24th, 2013 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/24/obama-leaves-father-birthplace-kenya-off-itinerary-for-africa-trip/?test=latestnews
@92
Jun 24th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you call 25th August 1944?
What do you call 8th May 1945?
129 LEPRecon
Jun 24th, 2013 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, so true AND of course under Sharia, Obama IS A MUSLIM!
Mind you, his people vehemently deny that, it wouldn't do to upset the red neck christians in the notorious 'Bible Belt' which I have visted during one of my business trips to the US. But never again.
TWIMC
Jun 24th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Usually, I’m quite flabbergasted about the complete ignorance of the Anglo Turnips about anything Argentinean…..
But their ignorance about their own Anglosphere seems to be even bigger!!!
Take, for example Turnip Posters (128) Mr. ”ChrisR” and (129) Mr ”LEPRecon”…. Both of them say (about American President Obama)…:
”I had such high hopes about this man only to find he cannot get over what the Brits are supposed to have done to his father……”
I say….:
It was not his FATHER; it was his GRANDFATHER….
Mr ”LEPRecon” continues saying (about American President Obama)…:
”….the so-called nastiness that the British did to his family in Kenya, who were apparently on the side of the Mau-Mau, which was impossible as his family weren't of the Mau-Mau tribe…..”
I say…:
1) Quite imposible indeed because the Mau Mau” were not a ”Tribe”..... It was a liberation movement composed mostly by Kikuyus!
2) The so-called nastiness that the British did to his GRANDFATHER in Kenya happened in 1949….. The Mau Mau movement didn’t even exist at that time…
3) Furthermore, Mr. LEPRecon´s comment about President Obama’s GRANDFATHER being “accused by the English of stealing the Officer's Mess silver” surely comes from the same reliable source that provided us with President Obama’s ”Kenyan Birth Certificate”….
What a nice couple of Prize Turnips those two Anglo clowns make!
ChrisR
Jun 24th, 2013 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The T45's are a floating air threat destroyer, with a much better strike ration than you 'suggest'.
Even with a much better ration than you state. All of these ships are untested and even if ours had a 100% hit rate and the american ships had a 70% kill rate, they would still be more effective and be able to kill more threats than our ships are able.
I fully support our navy but there is no way in any way shape or form anyone can say that the t-45 is a better ship that is massively more expensive than the AB and had less of EVERYTHING than the US destroyer does.
It is simply a superior ship. This is coming from a person who is very pro british.
@133 The usual tag from me.
Jun 24th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But it is you who have missed my point.
Under Sharia, the children MUST take the religion of the father (Grandfather in this case - OK).
So Obama’s Father was therefore a Muslim and so Obama MUST also be a Muslim. He was of course a crap father as well.
123 A_Voice
Jun 25th, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor sock puppet A_Voice.... your jeliousy makes you sssoooo transparent!!
Yes!! Please do look at the nice shiny plane with all those nice big rockets on it. This is what you can afford in a country where your leader isn't padding out their bank accounts with the money that is supposed to aspent on defence.....
Your air force, how are those falklands war vintage planes that you are still flying working out for you?
@Zethee, there are better ships on the ocean of that there is no doubt, but the Destroyer is best of it's class in technology terms, it is an all round air defence system that is currently unrivalled, the Americans have some awesome gear of course they do, not disputing that.
Jun 25th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pointless quoting hit accuracy or percentages of other vessels as the Destroyer has not seen any real action yet, my point this as an escort ship to a carrier or fleet is no doubt the tool of choice, it's tracking and radar systems coupled with its armoury make this a formidable and truly modern ship. the next best thing to this type of Destroyer is the Arleigh Burke-class is currently the only type of destroyer the Americans have in service as from 2005
The above was the best of type in it's time, but it's not as stealth as the T-45 Can't track and target as many objects and all at closer range, this is where the difference is made, as the T-45 can track twice as many objects at a further range, IMO that makes it a better air defence system that that of the Burke-class, simply put it's just more modern and from range its more deadly. These two Destroyers operate side by side on some operations in the Indian ocean both Brit and Yank together they are some serious pairing, but the T-45 is that little bit smarter.
@137 I love the Type 45s, but apart from 'Stealthyness' (almost debatable whether it is desirable in a carrier escort anyway- I'm sure USN would much rather an AB took a missile than a carrier) most of the other advantages that a Type 45 has over an AB are minimal or not really advantages in the environment the USN operates in. Samson is a better radar than SPY-1 sure, but with AWACS and advanced CEC the advantage is pretty much irrelevant.
Jun 25th, 2013 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anti-Muppet:
Jun 26th, 2013 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My percentages were random. But it still proves a point you can not ignore.96 missiles are, and will always be better than 46. You can say “our systems are slightly better” and they very well might be, but not much because as much as you might love the navy the US navy is way more advanced thaqn most others in the world. 96 is still better than 46.
The US AB ships are simple better in almost every situation than ours, are much cheaper and it will only be a year or two untill they get a radar upgrade and will be better than ours.
@103 I have this “souvenir” my daddy brought back from India at the end of THE war. It's called a kukri. I also used to be a Boy Scout. BE PREPARED.
Jun 28th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@109 Just as a small point. Later versions of the Arleigh Burke-class are fitted with the 5“/54 caliber Mark 45 gun. It has a range of 20nm, 37km, 23 miles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%22/54_caliber_Mark_45_gun#Variants
Minor point, I know, but if you can't get the simplest thing right!
Oh yes, and the US Navy had to ask the RN to turn off the Type 45's systems so that an exercise would be ”fair“.
While we're at it, why do US tanks need British armour? And who invented the tank? Why does the ”advanced“ F-35 need input from BAE?
Why is the Bradley Fighting Vehicle made by BAE?
How come the aircraft carrier, the angled deck and the mirror landing system were all invented by the British? As well as radar and sonar.
@112 Well, muslims aren't worth much. Although I gather they have been quite a ”hit“ in Buenos Aires. As in 1994. See we have this strange concept. It's called ”kill the other guy before he can kill you“. Only way to respond to something that hasn't progressed for 1400 years. And, amazingly, we can ”thank“ argieland. But for its actions we might have thought that the whole world had progressed into the 20th century. But argies showed us that they hadn't progressed since the 17th century. Or earlier. Perhaps the 15th. So we were much better prepared for the maniacs from the 7th century.
@123 I'm going to write to the RAF. To see whether we can get a representation of a green-eyed monster painted on the Typhoons in the Falklands. Argie pilots would think it was a mirror!
@133 No chance of a ”liberation“ movement in argieland, eh? Made sure of that, didn't you? Wipe the lot out. The ”argie“ way. Jeez. Argies. They think they are ”human“. Next thing, they'll start thinking they are ”people”.
A shameful record, arming wars and dictatorships around the world. Cristinita's Argentina again shows a better way is possible by jailing Menem for this kind of thing!
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