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London cabs with publicity inviting to visit and enjoy Uruguay
Sights of the Atlantic beaches from the hills surrounding the Uruguayan coast can be admired while travelling to Piccadilly Circus or to Westminster Palace in any one of the 75 London cabs with publicity contracted by Uruguay’s Ministry of Tourism began on the 17th June. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTo be honest, the average UK citizen probably knows almost nothing about Uruguay, I think football, Fray Bentos corned beef and the sinking of the Graf Spee are the only things people may know.
Jun 27th, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Finally, Uruguay is moving forward in the tourist industry. I hope many people from the UK and Europe come to see the nice spots uruguay as to offer. All uruguay needs to do now if fix the ugly “barrios” and we won't look more broke and 3rd world than we are.
Jun 27th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Had a two day stopover In Montivideo when Mount Pleasant was snowed in thought it was very nice
Jun 27th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 Clyde15
Jun 27th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watching The Chase on the VPN I am convinced that the present young generation in the UK know NOTHING about ANYTHING, so the Graf Spee would be alien to them.
It is cringe making to watch the morons try to answer even the basic general knowledge questions.
The only people likely to come and visit are the middle to retirement classes, but very welcome they would be.
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Jun 27th, 2013 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will have to show my ignorance here. I have no idea what the Chase or VPN is.
The 1950's film about the sinking of the Graf Spee is on channel 14 about every 6 weeks - I can just about say all the lines along with the actors !
What's “the chase”?
Jun 28th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Graf Spee on the other hand...
then again I am hardly the “young generation”!
6 Anbar
Jun 28th, 2013 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You prove my point!
5 Clyde15
The Chase is a very entertaining quiz show on ITV at 17.00 hrs each weekday and can be accessed via ITV Player for time shifting. Although some questions are clearly very easy to ensure contestants get some score, the others are fairly difficult and make us think. It is the only UK TV I watch, though my wife watches all the soaps and the cooking programmes.
A VPN is a virtual private network (can't justify the cost for an actual private network). When I access my account in Uruguay and choose a server in the UK (or many other countries including America) it makes the UK TV providers think my computer is in the UK even though it is in Uruguay and of course the same for whatever other country I have chosen.
I presently have an Amazon America account using their ‘Prime’ option which allows me to download any of 5,000+ films free, having paid the USD 50 for the year, I think it cost. I can also get much reduced postage charges though I don’t often use that.
Without a VPN we would not be able to access any other countries TV programmes, they would be blocked to us because of copyright reasons. I am sure it sounds far more complicated than it is in reality.
I think I will pass on that ! Just finished watching Seasick Steve on the BBC's coverage of Glastonbury. Far too old to go traipsing off to music festivals by some 50 years !
Jun 28th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 6 Anbar
Jun 30th, 2013 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Did you know that the Graf Spee was named after a German Admiral who met his end at the Battle of the Falklands in 1914 and that the two British battle cruisers that finished him were the Invincible and the Inflexible. In 1982 one of the British carriers was the Invincible. Inflexible was not finished in time to take part in the war but did, I believe relieve the Invincible to stop any RG change of heart.
Off topic I know, but it has always interested me in the coincidences.
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Jun 30th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0There was no carrier called Inflexible, it was the Illustrious and its designation was “through deck cruiser”. This description was given to it because the government had decided to get rid of aircraft carriers and it was a bit of a subterfuge to disguise its purpose !
@10
Jun 30th, 2013 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are correct, my apologies.
I remember the 'through deck cruiser' debate!
A little similar to what exactly was the 'classification' of the 'Graf Spee', battleship, battle cruiser, heavy cruiser or what?
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Jun 30th, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Germans referred to them as heavy cruisers.
Although restricted by treaty to a tonnage of 10,000 tons she actually displaced 14,520 T. In addition, because she had a welded fabrication, she saved a considerable amount of weight in her hull and superstructure. Add to this diesel engines instead of steam propulsion - another reduction in weight.
This allowed for 11“ guns instead of the RN's armament of 8” guns on their cruisers, This meant she was vastly superior to the standard RN cruisers.
The term “pocket battleship” was bestowed to the Deutschland class because of their obvious power compared to the standard cruisers of other navies.
@ 12 Clyde15
Jun 30th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They were likely 'very heavy cruisers' but that definition was not 'standard phraseology of the time.
I read a book, many moons ago, entitled something like 'The German Navy In World War II' by a German ex naval officer and close to the beginning of the book he touched on the subject of their classification ad stated something along the lines of because of the dispute about their classification he would just refer to them as the Deutschlanders or the Deutschland class.
The above author also claimed that the US 'Alaska' class were built in responds to the Deutschlands, how true that is I do not know but the Yanks did assign them the numbers CB-1 and CB-2 indicating that they were battle cruisers.
I always believed that British 6” cruisers were 'light' (Ajax and Achilles) and 8” cruisers were 'heavy'.
I have to query your statement re reduction in weight due to diesel engines over a steam turbine plant, my experience is usually the reverse, but what does occur is that reduced fuel consumption of the diesel compared to a turbine plant is more than offset by the reduced required fuel capacity for a similar range. The British cruisers were fitted with cruising turbines, which provided limited power and hence reduced fuel consumption but most captains were reluctant to use them in wartime owing to the length of time it took to get the main turbines up to full power.
13 Biguggy
Jun 30th, 2013 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you including all the boilers in that comparison of wieghts or just the power plant masses?
@ 14 ChrisR
Jun 30th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The whole shooting match, boilers, condensers, evaporators, feed pumps, extraction pumps, hot-wells, preheaters, economisers, ID Fans, FD fans, SW circ. pumps, soot collectors, compared to a diesel installation of the same power.
As I recollect the Graf Spee's diesels were 'blast injection' with the compressed air for this supplied by auxiliary engines now a 'rule of thumb' says that for 'blast injection' approximately 30% of the engine power is absorbed by the compressor or is supplied by auxiliary engines.
On the plus side for the weight reduction is the fact that the Graf Spees engines were double acting so ensuring a reduction in size and weight over a similar single acting design.
I have never found a comprehensive rundown of the machinery for the Deutschland class so a lot of it is guesswork on my part. Some of what I have seen written makes sense, some does not but that which does not may be because I do not have all the facts.
One other thing to remember is that the Germans were using high pressure steam with a high degree of superheat in their 'steamers' Prinz Eugene and Hipper although they are reported to have had serious troubles with these.
15 Biguggy
Jun 30th, 2013 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As a young, newly qualified engineer, I had for a short time engineering responsiblity for a process which involved the use of superheated steam: bloody dangerous stuff and the thing of nightmares.
I was really glad when I had a promotion to Divisional Process Engineer: the youngest ever at a Pilkington Glass Works and left the stuff behind. You just could not get the safety (meaning danger) message into the production people.
@ 16 ChrisR
Jun 30th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well then I guess you know how to search for a superheated steam leak?
Very, very carefully!
I have never had any personal experience with 'blast injection' only what I have read and the personal accounts of very few people who had had that dubious experience. I have also had personal experience of double acting 2 stroke engines but also with opposed pistons (3 pistons in each cylinder), from those experiences I can say that the poor sods in the 'black gang' on the Deutschlands have my profound sympathy.
Nice one - direct flights from London, next stop Mount Pleasant!
Jul 01st, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People in the Falklands can now watch ITV, along with BBC One and Two, which is even more surreal than watching BBC and ITV programmes on BFBS must have been - they get the regional news bulletins for London now.
On this article its stated as Uruguay Natural, why is the translation “Organic Uruguay”'
Jul 02nd, 2013 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Correct translation Natural Uruguay,
please amend this mistake?
Why do you want tourists Mr Mujica? You hate the Brits and you cannot guarantee the safety of your own citizens let alone anyone else
Jul 04th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 020 onredelijk
Jul 04th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please provide a link that proves Pepe hates the British.
Just one will do.
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